they also invented the ETH rollback / hardfork ... what is VRM?
They invented the roll back?? You mean Bitcoin never rolled back? Also VRC rolled back due to a theft not due to poor code that was exploited. But all that matters is market cap not facts. Rolling back due to theft is not a good enough reason to destroy the social contract. It sets a precedent for future thefts. Having a block chain where you have "do-overs" is no better than using the current federal reserve funny munny system. I do think so too. Let me ask you a question. What do you think of Ethereum's hard fork? Yes we frown upon it, but do you think it will hinder its success in the future? Will Vitalik be able to say the end justifies the means in the end?
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Glad to hear this project will continue if it doesn`t reach 1000BTC
How far can Stratis devs work on the project if the ICO doesn't reach 1000 btc or not even near it? If you need money in the middle of development what is the Stratis team's plan in getting more funds to continue development? Let us not be naive here. If Stratis developers want to be on top it will take years of development. I would like my question to be answered please. I think it is fair to ask these questions because you are asking for money from the public. So of course we have the right to find out and know if you will do good with the money given to you.
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The legalities in the cryptosphere is in the gray area at best. The attacker can argue that the exploit he did was all in the rules of the DAO and there that no theft took place. And in the side of Vitalik, they should have done a better job with the security audits. How can you store 150 million dollars worth of ether in the DAO and thinking that no one will try to attack it? That is very incompetent of them.
If there is a fault in any computer code and someone uses it to enrich themselves it is theft. That is right. For example, your house door is locked, somebody breaks into it, and claims it is legal because your lock is not strong enough. But the design of the DAO made it allowable for the attacker to transfer ether. He found a loop hole in the smart contract and in doing so the "fault" is not really a fault. As for the "door is locked" comparison, nothing was unlocked or broken. There was a loophole in the smart contract and the attacker made a transfer of ether. If you really thought what the attacker did was wrong, what does that make the developers or the DAO?
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I'm as frustrated as you are, but let's be productive about it. There are three things that need to be done ASAP. The next lisk release, getting access to the trust funds and the roadmap. Hold Max and Oliver accountable to these milestones and then move on to the next set. I'll do what I can as an advisor
Don't worry some of us get it and can wait. But it wouldn't hurt as Lisk advisor to advise Max to hurry up. Hehehehe. I'm joking. Anyway can you give us a timeline on when these milestones will be achieved?
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It takes a special kind of person to become a winning gambler. If you want to know if you have that special something to become a good gambler, look in the mirror. If you're married, has kids, has a house, a nice car and a stable job then you don't have that special something. Stay away from gambling because it will surely wreck your life.
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Gambling is only fun if you can beat the game and keep winning. If you keep losing and still find it fun, then you need help. It can also be a challenging endeavor and can be fun if you are progressing in becoming a good gambler.
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I think there isnt a way to gamble in the smart way since gamble itself isnt a smart way to life. For me, try to avoid to use my real money while gambling is the best way to gain some fun on gambling sites. I gamble just to try my luck and when I got free money from someone else via tips, or from other giveaways that being hold by some gambling sites. I cant make good money with that method though, but thats my way to avoid big regret at the future.
You are wrong. There is a smart way to gamble if you utilize the strategy and the mathematics of gambling properly. If you just make bets and hope to get lucky then that is one stupid way to lose your money surely.
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Watch the price go back to atleast 23k sats or worse 21k
I beg to differ. It is already stabilizing at the current level. If it were to go down some more it will stabilize even more at 25k level. Anything less will make it go down further below 20k level. But more it will more likely be staying at current price level.
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Thank you for the update although it isn't that much. Everything is wait and see but who said crypto development can be hurried. It is just different when you have money on the line. People get very anxious even if it's only a small amount. The smaller the amount invested the bigger whiner they are. There is a correlation maybe someone should make a study.
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With a quick glance I like lbry. Because of the recent success of steemit I speculate that lbry will be even more successful. The need for humans to connect and to express themselves is innate in all of us. That made social media platforms very successful. Now take that idea and give the profit back to the people will be very appealing if the mainstream only knew about these decentralized platforms like lbry being developed.
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Can't wait so ready to trade SOME VRC for VRM!! I know most here are into pump and dumps and catching any wave you can. But a coin 2 years old with developers that have constantly improved the protocol and actually umm care its exciting times coming up!! So if you haven't heard of Vericoin check it out!! Join the fun!!
It would be more prudent for the vericoin developers to just give up on the coin and start anew than doing this scheme that is copied from NXT. With NXT I don't mind that they're doing it because they are just doing it for the very purpose of reviving the platform. But for vericoin everyone in the community knows about the story of the attack and the roll back and they have not really recovered from it. That makes the whole thing scammy. This is just my opinion.
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I hope the incoming ethereum Hard fork becomes success, because DAO name or anything related to DAO/ethereum will be stigmatised. I believe this is what wings developers are waiting for, to let this DAO fiasco ends. I do follow their ICO countdown on icocountdown.com which have already been postponed twice. I believe the wings team can do a great job of marketing and but must try note to market it has ethereum 2.0 or ethereum alternative which is what I do not like about the way Lisk was market because I have not seen any Bitcoin 2.0 that has been close to bitcoin success talk-less of surpassing it.
I don't think Wings will have to depend on the success of Ethereum, hard fork or no hard fork. A platform will only gain true success under its own merits if it is truly better than the rest. And of course an excellent marketing will really be a big help too. If you think that Wings is not truly better than the rest and that it doesn't have an excellent marketing team then it would be best to stay away for now.
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I think the most important thing we should be working on at the moment is to increase the amount of our full time paid developers. But this of course will not happen until we find a new office. Max have you found any tallented coders in Ukraine?
Why is there a need to increase the amount of full time paid developers? How many people are working on Lisk at the moment? And I think development can still continue without a formal office for the time being. People can always collaborate around the world using github, video chat software, slack, etc. This a new age of start ups. Offices are just for formalities sake.
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Cheap price of the coin, I think it's time to buy and hold. Rise is too little time on the market. we need more time and price up. As long as nothing shady happens then rise will do well in the future. For what the potential is it is cheap right now you're right. Getting a small bag at these prices shouldn't do you bad. Or nothing like what happend to the DAO should happen. The developers behind it are smart people but it was their incompetence that caused for the DAO to be open to attack and exploitation. They should have done a better job of doing the security audits and scrutinzed Solidity much further. RISE is different with DAO in terms of volume but I think rise will be the one to prosper than the DAO. The investors of the DAO is just mostly holding their coins and nothing really happens good to the DAO so far. How will it prosper more? What does Rise have that the other don't and how will that make a difference in the eyes of the serious investors?
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The legalities in the cryptosphere is in the gray area at best. The attacker can argue that the exploit he did was all in the rules of the DAO and there that no theft took place. And in the side of Vitalik, they should have done a better job with the security audits. How can you store 150 million dollars worth of ether in the DAO and thinking that no one will try to attack it? That is very incompetent of them.
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Glad to hear this project will continue if it doesn`t reach 1000BTC
How far can Stratis devs work on the project if the ICO doesn't reach 1000 btc or not even near it? If you need money in the middle of development what is the Stratis team's plan in getting more funds to continue development? Let us not be naive here. If Stratis developers want to be on top it will take years of development.
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"October 5, 2016: The first round of the lumen giveaway to bitcoin holders will conclude. If there are unclaimed lumens, they’ll go to Stellar.org’s operational fund.
Due to regulatory restrictions, this program is closed to residents of the U.S. states of New York, Georgia, New Hampshire, and Connecticut as well as the nations of Iran, Cuba, North Korea, and other countries subject to sanctions by the United States. These restrictions are subject to change to account for changes in regulatory posture."
Why will the unclaimed lumens go to Stellar.org? Why just not touch it and leave it be if no wants it. I believe Stellar.org is getting short in funds and must find a way to get lumens without making it look bad on their side.
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I cannot send the sig campaign bitcoins to my Yobit wallet. Does anybody else have the same problem?
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Cheap price of the coin, I think it's time to buy and hold. Rise is too little time on the market. we need more time and price up. As long as nothing shady happens then rise will do well in the future. For what the potential is it is cheap right now you're right. Getting a small bag at these prices shouldn't do you bad. Or nothing like what happend to the DAO should happen. The developers behind it are smart people but it was their incompetence that caused for the DAO to be open to attack and exploitation. They should have done a better job of doing the security audits and scrutinzed Solidity much further.
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A good opportunity to lisk: Microsoft Inks Partnership With R3 Consortium to Bring Blockchain Tech to Financial Marketshttps://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/microsoft-inks-partnership-with-r-consortium-to-bring-blockchain-tech-to-financial-markets-1459868633 Under the terms of the partnership, the R3 consortium will host their labs on Microsoft’s Azure cloud platform while Microsoft will provide the consortium access to its 45 cloud-based tools, including those created by other companies under Microsoft Azure’s Blockchain as a Service platform.Max should take the momentum and dialogue with members of R3. Max, You should start a development team as soon as possible. The velocity is important. R3 listens to Mike Hearn with everything concerning cryptocurrencies and platforms. So to know what his opinion about Lisk is would make you know somehow if Lisk has a chance with R3.
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