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11741  Other / Off-topic / Re: Are you buying bitcoins? Why? on: August 14, 2016, 03:17:42 AM
yes I'm buying some btc to hold it
I believe bitcoin will be rise in the future and its better to buy it and store your btc in the wallet.
Good, because the real value of bitcoin will be felt in the future, now is the time to buy since the price is very cheap and we can easily make money if we are a long term holder, we just have to have a full trust with bitcoin so we cannot just easily dump it when crisis happens.
11742  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or Gold? What would you pick? on: August 14, 2016, 03:12:24 AM
Its a good time to short gold right now. Short time at least. Bitcoin still has a lot of potential.

For short time, bitcoin has more potential than gold. Because the bitcoin's price can easily goes up and down and you can easily earn bitcoin for investment. Gold is for long run imo.
It always depends on how you do it, the price of bitcoin is so volatile, it could sometime go up and go down abruptly, gold is more stable for me and the only way you can earn in a short period of time using bitcoin is through day trading.
11743  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: August 14, 2016, 02:59:32 AM
Did I understand right ?

Full nodes are not incoming this week, and Sasha was talking about bounties aswell as test net for full nodes ?

I thought nodes were already being tested, and ready to be released.

Yes, you understand it correctly. Testing is not completed yet. There is nothing wrong and this a normal process.

when the estimated time to be completed testing this full nodes?



None of us has any idea when it will be done. not even the dev team. I've read previously it could be by the spring next year. if you can't wait for it, you may wanna dump your coin now and buy back later when you're ready. been watching discussion on slack and still has no idea.
Well, we cannot control them, so for now we just have to wait, this is how the game is played here. Those who wants to dump are free to do so but once the full node will be release I am pretty sure you dumpers will regret as the price will eventually increase then.
11744  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: August 13, 2016, 07:13:44 AM

There's actually nothing wrong with loving money because that's what motivates us to work hard and reach for our dreams. The only wrong thing is if the way you get the money is not effective to you like getting your money in gambling which is very difficult and could result to gambling addiction.

Well it is OK to have money and to work for money but to love money more than GOD or yourself then that would be a SIN cause to love money is to love material things and these cause human flesh to Sin against GOD! if you are reading the bible you will know what I am trying to say and if not then I think I was the only one thinking that gambling is wrong and loving money is evil.
It is not necessary to combine God and money. This is the concept of incompatible. The fact that God is in our soul, and the money is needed for the body content. Money to earn the right way is better than doing something bad for the money. Here it is necessary to conclude that we do not live for the sake of money, and are working to get the money to live.
That is for a very simple reason that we cannot take our money when we pass away, money will only be good when we are still alive and we have the opportunity to enjoy it so we need to make use of it properly and obviously do not use it for bad activities that would ruin our life and the life of others.

Life is not all about money. However, we really need money to get and buy what we need and want. If we have excess money, it gives good feeling to share it to people in needs like buying some food for the homeless and the like. There is nothing wrong in gambling though as long as you are only using money that you can afford to lose and that you still have money left for you to spend for family, tithe, charity, savings, investment, and etc.

i am agree with you, as long as gambling is not make us to become addicting then i think it should be fine and we only play gambling for fun. i am sure that we can manage our time and not just busy for gambling. we earn money, we spend money in many ways. just don't make gambling as addicted and habits because it could be bad for our life.

Well if you really think that gambling is can be your milking well that could be wrong for us its because gambling is not really nice in reality it can make us worse if we really get addicted with it, and also gambling can make us broke so better make it as past time happiness and dont get hook for more time and so by that we can really avoid to be addicter with it.
Yes, that can be manage, we can avoid gambling if we feel that it is not doing good to ourselves or we feel that we already go beyond the limit in gambling, gambling should stay to be fun and should not be excessive as it may cause addiction to us due to huge exposure in gambling with so much time invested in doing it.
11745  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: August 13, 2016, 06:59:29 AM
Yes, I not rich with gambling but i very happy with gambling. Actually i'm feel like rich by playing gambling. Because before know gambling i do not really rich when i know and play i feel like rich but not too much. However in this situation i'm not really depend on gambling, It is only intend entertain. once again just my oppinion

Well,  if you do not have the capacity to gamble to make money then you should stay your play with the intention to have fun or else you will still lose because to make money you need a decent bankroll to last longer.

Agree with this. If you have no other money and spend everything you have to gamble then it is a really bad decision. If you want to really earn big in gambling, you need to have big bankroll and must be contented of winning small and withdrawing.
Yeah! because successful gamblers does not rely on there wins in a short term, they are successful because they play in the long run and they have their method to win in gambling, and of course even if you are really good in gambling but without a decent bankroll you would not earn big.
Although gambling win and be able to get a lot of bitcoin that I think the same, because gamblers also lost a lot of their money so that the results for their money. Which can be really rich in gambling in my opinion is the owner of the gambling sites themselves. So if want to get rich we must make our gambling sites.
Actually we just have to win more than we lose, that is how to be successful in gambling and with a bigger amount of bankroll even if you will just earn a little percentage of your total bankroll you would be very happy already. Let us say for example, you have a bankroll of $100,000 to use in sports betting for the whole NBA seasons, if you will have at least 10% of it which is $10,0000 is already a good profit.

but in fact, there is few people that win more than we lose and this makes people curious to win the games, and many people trying to gambling over and over again with hoping that they can win and get rich this time. the power of seducing of gambling is really beautiful  Grin
Like me, I have been gambling for many years already but I never become rich and instead my loses accumulated. I am just rich maybe temporarily when I am lucky but the long run, I still lose in the game and there again lose another amount of money. I think I am getting use to it and I just put in mind not to mind my loses and just enjoy the game.
11746  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: August 13, 2016, 06:52:42 AM
I dont believe with safe methods to gambling
all is depends of our luck,,whatever our methods but you dont have lucky enough you will lose
That is true luck is the most prominent thing in gambling, but there are a few games which requires you to have skills to win like poker, sports betting.

The safest way to gamble is to withdraw after you won so good amount (don't be greedy) and not try to recover if you lost, just accept it and move on.
If it was that easy lol, we'll never satisfy with our need to win.

the only safe methods that i know is, after win in about 3-5 times, stop to play, walk away from the place with your winning money, never look back. play in other time with other games.
That is not gonna work because you will still play in gambling. It is just like you are believe a superstitious belief, your goal in gambling should be specific and you cannot mix having fun and making money at the same time as the result is always unpleasant. If you want to make money then focus on the method to do it.
11747  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: August 13, 2016, 06:47:32 AM
You can save money by creating different portfolios of investments. We have to divide in ratio proportions how much we'd want to save and in what kind of investment scheme. The schemes could vary from Fixed/Recurring deposits with banks, trading in stock markets, mutual funds, Public provident funds and various other methods.
In savings you will not think of investment first, let us say you only receive a little amount of salary, the question is are you still gonna save? The answer is absolutely yes, you need to save as that is compulsory and that would take care of your future in case there are emergencies that would require you to spend money.
11748  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin to be international currency on: August 13, 2016, 06:39:29 AM
For me bitcoin is already an internation currency since the day the pizza were traded and bitcoin is being used for several transactions, between costumers and sellers. I just hope soon the merchants adopt bitcoin as an option of payment.

It is true that bitcoin is actually acting like an international currency but it wasn't been recognized by the government to make it official.  It is used by people every where in the world.  With this I think government is now studying bitcoin and its effect to ea country if they  recognized it as currency.
The government will never recognize bitcoin as it is anonymous, the government wants to watch us transact online to prevent crime and the laundering of money, actually there are other altcoins who could help the KYC and they are just a tool to bridge the faster transaction using the KYC.
11749  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you actively spend your bitcoins? on: August 13, 2016, 06:34:26 AM
I used purse.io for the second time. Bought some headphones 14% off!
Awesome if you ask. Then I placed a buy order to refill my hot wallet. I found myself buying the same amount of BTC with less dollars.
great
I heard also that company and we can link our order in amazon to them, to be honest I am interested to buy products in amazon as some of them was still not in our country but my real problem is the shipping fee especially when you buy electronic units you need to pay a higher taxes.
11750  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling made for kids???? on: August 13, 2016, 05:16:00 AM
Gambling is surely not for kids but there must be many kids who must be gambling for sure, as kids gets attracted very easily to something which is bad like smoking, drinking and may be gambling too.
It is depend on their parents if they let their child to do so.
Children attitude will always be depend on their parents on how they teach or supervise their children every day.
For me, it is depend always on a parent if they really let their child to just browse on the internet without knowing what site they're browsing. So don't let your children on themselves in front on your computer, tablet or cp. always be there beside them so they do not gamble at the early age.
As a responsible parents we should never teach our kids to gamble, we have to make sure that we were able to monitor our kids and ensure that they are doing the right thing according to their age, there are things that should not be learn by the kids as it would destroy them like gambling.
11751  Economy / Economics / Re: What percentage of people on Earth will own Bitcoin by 2020 on: August 13, 2016, 05:11:56 AM
It depends how the condition of the economy or the need to be desired by everyone. If all of the given system bitcoin needed or desired, then at least the presentation in 2020 are 40% and the maximum is 90%. So it depends how the conditions in time to come.
That is so unrealistic in my opinion, we are not that strong to invade the world yet and since we are just an alternative currency for fiat we will never rich that big unless there is a change of government in the future that would order people to use bitcoins instead of fiat.
11752  Other / Off-topic / Re: What % of your Assets is Bitcoin? on: August 13, 2016, 05:09:50 AM
my bitocin hold is under 10% is my asset
because every profit trading bitcoin altcoin iam always is saving fiat money in my rec bank
i have in bitcoins something like 10 per cent either, in my opinion i will be putting only more money into it in the future because it allows me to benefit
It's really fun that we can earn bitcoins online and it will add up to our total assets, for me, I have a big amount of money in my bank account and my earning in bitcoin is not really big so I am planning to convert my bitcoins into fiat and maybe it would increase the percentage of my holding in bitcoins.
11753  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do bitcoin accepted in your country? on: August 13, 2016, 05:05:05 AM
Canada and The US. So yup, they are!  Cool
I think no problem with that country as you lived in  developed countries, the problem only is when you are living in a less developed countries where there are only few development of the establishment and your chance of spending your bitcoins is very low, lucky are those who live in countries where users are everywhere because they can transact and sell stuffs online easily.
11754  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the next halving really matter that much? on: August 13, 2016, 04:18:56 AM
i think halving will really matter because it helps the price to go up over time

After 3 to 5 more halving, the block reward will be lower than the transactions fees and more bitcoin will have already been mined, so the halving will have less effect.

In the next few decades, most of the bitcoin will be mined, the adoption and usage by the people will determine the price.
And in that time the demand will increase so the price will eventually increase also. Every halving delivers a good news for the investors and the miners as the price will also increase at the same time, this is is the most anticipated year as we have not seen any increase of price brought by halving.
11755  Economy / Economics / Re: Why better tech can't kill Bitcoin on: August 13, 2016, 04:02:22 AM
So bitcoins to you are a fad  Huh
Highly unlikely as those other things mentioned were valuable to the "collectors" but bitcoin is of value to everybody as everybody I know "collects" money. It is the exact same value to everybody at that given time of the exchange.

First, you have to understand how an exchange works.
An exchange doesn't pay you for your BTC, it simply matches the buyers with the sellers, just like eBay matches BTCeanie BTCabies buyers and sellers.

So yeah, BTC is only valuable to collectors. No different from Sports Cards, Beanies, or Litecoins, or Feathercoins, or BBQ coins, which all claim to be money.

Edit: Sorry, misread "It is the exact same value to everybody at that given time of the exchange." as "on an exchange."
What do you mean by "It is the exact same value to everybody at that given time of the exchange"?

If I sell you 1 BTC for a dollar, that would magically make all BTC worth $1? Or?
Not on an exchange. I should of said at that given time or the transaction in a "trade". My mistake in that wording.
But yes 1btc for a dollar - AT THAT GIVEN MOMENT! What else would dictate what it's value is? It is uniform for everybody across the board no matter what  Roll Eyes That is the function of the market price.

Re. "not on an exchange" -- see my edit.
Re. "But yes 1btc for a dollar - AT THAT GIVEN MOMENT!" -- how is this any different from selling Sports Cards or BTCeanie BTCabies or the Brooklyn Bridge? The price is always the price, "AT THAT GIVEN MOMENT," between the parties involved in a given transaction.
Huh
Anything can be collectable but bitcoin also has utility (actually has better utility than gold).  It has proven to be a "hedge" against financial dilemmas. I personally don't plan on stocking up on beanie babies during the next financial crisis.

This is too much. Bitcoin has never proven to be a safe haven to financial dilemma. Bitcoin is risky. Bitcoin is speculative. Bitcoin will decrease in value during economic uncertainty as all the speculators flee to real safety.
Bitcoin has a lot money around it, the big miners are forcing and making some pression at bitcoin price, who makes bitcoin its the community, and all the wishes around bitcoin is to grow, soo no other crypto can really kill the king. Even eth with some potencial to moove up cant go without the community support, as i saw it has limitations and people know its a great coin on the pump and dump all days.

It depends on the further development of the bitcoin. If there is no good development and it cannot adapt, it will be replaced.
Bitcoin is already a good currency and it can stand alone even without the help of any altcoins and other platform. The people are trusting it and we can see that base on the increasing number of bitcoin adopters. So I would say that it will not be replace since we are growing stronger.
11756  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: August 13, 2016, 03:28:03 AM
greed and hope are the reason for distruction in case of gambling. first we hope that we can win then we do win it then we gets greedy an wins more then we loose.then again we hope we can recover our losse and we became greedy again and we losse all

you can't say this generally about everyone who is gambling. i agree that there are some who are playing like what you said but that is not everybody and not even the majority.

many are only gambling for the fun of the games and only because they enjoy the game and also taking risks with their money.

also there are many who are professional gamblers like those poker players you see in Las Vegas Poker Tournaments that are making million dollar bets and earn a lot of money from gambling.

That is right. Each of gambler has its own reasons why he is coming back. This what the question of the OP and I guess we shall not answer it as if it applies to all. It should be answered as to individual reasons of coming back.
That's every body has their own reason why they keeps from coming back in gambling, for me, sometimes I go back and just trying my luck, but I am not expecting that I can really win that game, we never know, maybe I can win this time. Smiley
In my case, I go back because I really love to gamble, I like sports betting a lot and that is the only way that would make me happy in gambling. It is my time to relax and watch the game while I am betting online, if I won then I would just spend it because I don't want to save it as I am not really serious in gambling for money.
11757  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years? on: August 13, 2016, 03:23:43 AM
buying bitcoin to plan for the expenses after retirement which is going to happen after 20 years is not a good idea at all.Nothing can be said that what will happen after the 20 long years and specially with bitcoin,i think other investment would be more good like in any business.

Also if we safe our bitcoins specially for our retirement, and after 20 years we saw suddenly bitcoin has been dead so we are also dead before retirement. So look at bitcoin is a crypto currency, and a mostly people are using it because of its price down and up, if after 20 years bitcoin price down, because in that time a lot of crypto currency would be come. So don't go in long term period, but now bitcoin is best so use it day to day.

you are right, bitcoin uncertain future, so we can not expect the pension fund of bitcoin.
better keep making gains every day, and you store most of the profits for the future in the form of fiat. so it is safe, if the future of something bad happening with bitcoin.
Of course that is right, you cannot expect it as your pension because we cannot ascertain the future and that is too bad if you rely your full investment with bitcoin. It is good to trust but do not put all your money in investing with bitcoin as it could collapse anytime like what happen in the past.
11758  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: August 13, 2016, 03:18:09 AM
Yes, I not rich with gambling but i very happy with gambling. Actually i'm feel like rich by playing gambling. Because before know gambling i do not really rich when i know and play i feel like rich but not too much. However in this situation i'm not really depend on gambling, It is only intend entertain. once again just my oppinion

Well,  if you do not have the capacity to gamble to make money then you should stay your play with the intention to have fun or else you will still lose because to make money you need a decent bankroll to last longer.

Agree with this. If you have no other money and spend everything you have to gamble then it is a really bad decision. If you want to really earn big in gambling, you need to have big bankroll and must be contented of winning small and withdrawing.
Yeah! because successful gamblers does not rely on there wins in a short term, they are successful because they play in the long run and they have their method to win in gambling, and of course even if you are really good in gambling but without a decent bankroll you would not earn big.
11759  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: August 13, 2016, 03:04:15 AM

There's actually nothing wrong with loving money because that's what motivates us to work hard and reach for our dreams. The only wrong thing is if the way you get the money is not effective to you like getting your money in gambling which is very difficult and could result to gambling addiction.

Well it is OK to have money and to work for money but to love money more than GOD or yourself then that would be a SIN cause to love money is to love material things and these cause human flesh to Sin against GOD! if you are reading the bible you will know what I am trying to say and if not then I think I was the only one thinking that gambling is wrong and loving money is evil.
It is not necessary to combine God and money. This is the concept of incompatible. The fact that God is in our soul, and the money is needed for the body content. Money to earn the right way is better than doing something bad for the money. Here it is necessary to conclude that we do not live for the sake of money, and are working to get the money to live.
That is for a very simple reason that we cannot take our money when we pass away, money will only be good when we are still alive and we have the opportunity to enjoy it so we need to make use of it properly and obviously do not use it for bad activities that would ruin our life and the life of others.
11760  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Alt coins worth buying on: August 13, 2016, 02:58:49 AM
i am not an advocate for any particular coin, but dash has actually been holding its value on and off for some time, you may want to take a look

Dash has been under constant development. Another coin worth some attention is the Ethereum or ETH.
ETH had already picked, I think the best altcoins to focus now is the ETC as it has a great volume of bitcoins and could give us a good income in the future. The price is really great as of the moment as it drops for at least 10% and when that time happens, it is always a good time to buy.
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