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1181  Other / Off-topic / Re: Anyone going to Cannes Film Festival 2013 or have been to Cannes before? on: March 31, 2013, 04:46:22 AM
Everything I know about cannes is from watching entourage LMAO

Thats funny, I dont really watch the show but I could imagine how it would go if they were at Cannes. Too bad I'm not plugged into that scene, it would've been nice to party like them.

I've never been to Cannes, but it would be cool. It seems Wong Kar-Wai has always made a point to get his films there. Have you seen any of his stuff? I'm a big fan of 2046, In the Mood for Love, Days of Being Wild...
1182  Other / Off-topic / Re: Anyone going to Cannes Film Festival 2013 or have been to Cannes before? on: March 31, 2013, 02:40:25 AM
Hey BTC-ers, I was wondering if anyone here has been to the Cannes film festival before or is going this year? I am planning a trip and I would love any first hand accouts of whats its been like before and what I should expect.

People here don't really watch movies much, apparently. Have you seen this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=109868.0
1183  Other / Off-topic / Re: Good Books on: March 30, 2013, 08:10:46 PM
Please add these to your list. Pretty much required reading for any sci fi fan.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Demon-Princes-Vol-Killing/dp/0312853025/

http://www.amazon.com/The-Demon-Princes-Vol-Dreams/dp/0312853165/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_y
1184  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Libertarian my ass! on: March 29, 2013, 09:12:51 PM
Nearly every action in my waking life is regulated in some way backed by the threat of violence. 70% or more of my job is related to supporting regulations enforced, again, by threats of violent action for noncompliance.

Please provide one concrete example, and explain how it does not exist in anarchy.

Well, I think we know that first we'd have to get you to agree that fines backed by threat of imprisonment is violence for many of them. However, consider something like Sarbanes Oxley where penalties include imprisonment (sorry, that's not violence in your book either, I'm sure) for certain types of transgression.

Please explain to me how there cannot be undesirable ramifications of not paying money to individuals or entities in an anarchic society.
1185  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Libertarian my ass! on: March 29, 2013, 09:11:04 PM
Nearly every action in my waking life is regulated in some way backed by the threat of violence. 70% or more of my job is related to supporting regulations enforced, again, by threats of violent action for noncompliance.

Please provide one concrete example, and explain how it does not exist in anarchy.

Well, since I know how you're all about the low-hanging fruit, I'll go for the easy one.

Taxation.

Taxation can't exist in anarchy, since it requires a state.

If you don't understand how taxation is backed by violence, tell the tax man "no," next time he comes asking for money, and he'll give you a demonstration.

Let's explore this.

Please explain to me what happened to you personally when you told the tax man no, presumably by not sending them money.

Then explain to me how there could not exist someone, or some group in an anarchic society which would demand money from you.
1186  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Libertarian my ass! on: March 29, 2013, 08:55:23 PM
Nearly every action in my waking life is regulated in some way backed by the threat of violence. 70% or more of my job is related to supporting regulations enforced, again, by threats of violent action for noncompliance.

Please provide one concrete example, and explain how it does not exist in anarchy.

Statism Anarchy *is* violence.

Fixed that for you.
1187  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Libertarian my ass! on: March 29, 2013, 08:32:01 PM

Please explain to me how there is less violence in your fabled anarchy world.

It would be quite difficult for there to be more.

Explain two things:

1. Demonstrate why it would be difficult for there to be more.

2. Even if there was not more, that does not imply less. Explain why an equal amount is better.
1188  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Libertarian my ass! on: March 29, 2013, 08:21:06 PM
"I shall begin with a definition.... Anarchism: The philosophy of a new social order based on liberty unrestricted by man-made law; the theory that all forms of government rest on violence, and are therefore wrong and harmful, as well as unnecessary."

And do tell, where exactly does your fabled anarchism not depend on violence?

Anarchism - both kinds - proposes that all interactions be voluntary. Mutual agreement, not violence.

Please explain to me how there is less violence in your fabled anarchy world.
1189  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Libertarian my ass! on: March 29, 2013, 08:09:59 PM
"I shall begin with a definition.... Anarchism: The philosophy of a new social order based on liberty unrestricted by man-made law; the theory that all forms of government rest on violence, and are therefore wrong and harmful, as well as unnecessary."

And do tell, where exactly does your fabled anarchism not depend on violence?
1190  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Statist vs Brainist - Game Theory of potential World War 3 on: March 29, 2013, 04:41:52 PM
Quick rebuttal:

The "WW3 Game Theory of the Bitcoin World" appears to be organised into 2 broad groups:

Normal people
-Nerds/geeks/pikachu/Magic/whatever-card-playing "techie" people
-programmers, economists
-ex-Wall St/insurance/superannuation/hedge fund finance people
-bored Internet surfers
-friends, acquaintances, co-workers, girlfriends, wives, husbands, siblings, etc., of the above.

Fruitcakes
Often disguised as normal people, but they're actually...
-Anarcho-Capitalists: "order and wisdom spontaneously erupts out of chaos and stupidity." An amalgamation of retarded beliefs that even with zero government, pillars of civilisation such as education, healthcare, justice, and various social safety nets can all be provided privately and sustainably by the magic of "market forces"... despite an obvious lack of human values. ("Greed" probably doesn't count as a human value because it surely also applies to reptiles and birds which collect bright trinkets to feather their nests with).
-Libertarians: "we pretty much agree with An-Caps, but reserve the right to brutally enforce a minimalist bureaucracy for things like orphanages, and banning slavery, and indentured servitude... and any other exceptions that we haven't thought of yet, if they give us moral discomfort. We of course have the final say as to the morality of the situation."
-Confused Hippies/Libertarians: "transactions and all the other bank-like features that Bitcoin provides should be free and/or extremely cheap so that everyone can enjoy it! But the miners and Bitcoin businesses should of course all earn as much as they can!"
-Religious sects: "long live Satoshi!", "the Cardinals Core Developers have spoken!", "the value is going to the Moon!", "Bitcoin will take over the world -- the prophecy predicts it!"... etc... Some of the speculators could be included in this group.
-Communists/related sects: "Bitcoin will allow our superior authoritarian regime to track usage statistics, and our Computer with optimised software will command the Proletariat to produce the correct amount of butter and other basic foodstuffs in order to ensure adequate health and social fulfilment for everyone equally!"

Telling it like it is.
1191  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Statist vs Brainist - Game Theory of potential World War 3 on: March 29, 2013, 04:41:09 PM
The brain, as a biological neural network, is a device which constantly rewires itself using STDP. Social networks do the same.

First idiotic thing: All the anarcho freaks just can't seem to get their tiny brains around the fact that out of anarchy will arise hierarchy.

Second idiotic thing: A true anarchy does not care about anything or move to create unified fronts to solve problems. It's only the individual units doing their own thing, satisfying their own needs, blissfully ignorant of larger problems, such as resource depletion, destructive non reversible transformative processes, etc.
1192  Other / Politics & Society / Re: UN Gun control.... GO! on: March 27, 2013, 03:25:00 AM
Thus the importance of discerning how each contributes to the economy. Let's try this again. Consider a ban on cars, trucks, buses and knives. What happens?

I don't think anyone is looking at a gun ban based on its effect on the economy.  Gun Ban discussions are usually centered on 'Guns are necessary for safety and protection' vs. 'Banning guns would reduce the gun homicide rate'.

I think anyone who makes the absurd comment "Well then let's ban cars because cars can kill people!" needs to address the questions I asked. If you want to make such statements, then you do need to answer those questions. If not, others still do.
1193  Other / Politics & Society / Re: UN Gun control.... GO! on: March 26, 2013, 06:22:33 PM
Since you don't get it, go back and read the facts presented to you over the last 20 posts or so. Open your eyes and stop trying to paint opinions and use vague words to try and bolster your losing position.

Which position is that? That despite extremely low crime rates, the Japanese live in fear, while despite high crime rates, I do not?

Doesn't seem like a losing one to me.

Consider this. I don't live in fear and I don't have a gun, carry a gun, or want a gun. I live in the United States where the murder rate is 10 times that of Japan, and the incarceration rate is 15 times that of Japan.

You, on the other hand, are such a coward, that you would like to try and paint a picture where not only would the average person need to have a gun here in the U.S., but in Japan as well.
1194  Other / Politics & Society / Re: UN Gun control.... GO! on: March 26, 2013, 06:04:50 PM
As the article stated, the designs are to satisfy the quirky and inventive taste of the Japanese.

Article title:
Quote
Fearing Crime, Japanese Wear the Hiding Place

Caption of the above picture:
Quote
Though street crime is relatively low in Japan, quirky camouflage designs like this vending-machine dress are being offered to an increasingly anxious public to hide from would-be assailants.

From the article:
Quote
These elaborate defenses are coming at a time when crime rates are actually declining in Japan. But the Japanese, sensitive to the slightest signs of social fraying, say they feel growing anxiety about safety, fanned by sensationalist news media.

Quote
While Americans want to protect themselves from criminals, or even strike back, the creators say many Japanese favor camouflage and deception, reflecting a culture that abhors self-assertion, even in self-defense.

It is just easier for Japanese to hide,” Ms. Tsukioka said. “Making a scene would be too embarrassing.” She said her vending machine disguise was inspired by a trick used by the ancient ninja, who cloaked themselves in black blankets at night.
(all emphasis mine)

This must be the passage you were referring to:
Quote
However, the fact that they were greeted here with straight faces, or even appeared at all, underscores another, less appreciated facet of Japanese society: its fondness for oddball ideas and inventions.

Some other "oddball inventions" with this sort of purpose in mind:
Quote
A pair of women’s sunglasses has wraparound lenses so dark no one can see where the wearer is looking. These are intended to scare off sexual harassers on Tokyo’s crowded trains, where the groping of women is a constant problem.

Quote
For children, she has a backpack that transforms into a Japanese-style fire hydrant, hiding the child. The “manhole bag” was also her idea.

Gotta love how you can read an entire article, and only come away with the one sentence that supports your preconceptions. Amazing blinder-fu.

Thank you immensely for all those quotes. Every fuckin' one of them supports my point.



Since you don't get it, go back and read the facts presented to you over the last 20 posts or so. Open your eyes and stop trying to paint opinions and use vague words to try and bolster your losing position.

1195  Other / Politics & Society / Re: UN Gun control.... GO! on: March 26, 2013, 05:47:18 PM
As the article stated, the designs are to satisfy the quirky and inventive taste of the Japanese.

Article title:
Quote
Fearing Crime, Japanese Wear the Hiding Place

Caption of the above picture:
Quote
Though street crime is relatively low in Japan, quirky camouflage designs like this vending-machine dress are being offered to an increasingly anxious public to hide from would-be assailants.

From the article:
Quote
These elaborate defenses are coming at a time when crime rates are actually declining in Japan. But the Japanese, sensitive to the slightest signs of social fraying, say they feel growing anxiety about safety, fanned by sensationalist news media.

Quote
While Americans want to protect themselves from criminals, or even strike back, the creators say many Japanese favor camouflage and deception, reflecting a culture that abhors self-assertion, even in self-defense.

It is just easier for Japanese to hide,” Ms. Tsukioka said. “Making a scene would be too embarrassing.” She said her vending machine disguise was inspired by a trick used by the ancient ninja, who cloaked themselves in black blankets at night.
(all emphasis mine)

This must be the passage you were referring to:
Quote
However, the fact that they were greeted here with straight faces, or even appeared at all, underscores another, less appreciated facet of Japanese society: its fondness for oddball ideas and inventions.

Some other "oddball inventions" with this sort of purpose in mind:
Quote
A pair of women’s sunglasses has wraparound lenses so dark no one can see where the wearer is looking. These are intended to scare off sexual harassers on Tokyo’s crowded trains, where the groping of women is a constant problem.

Quote
For children, she has a backpack that transforms into a Japanese-style fire hydrant, hiding the child. The “manhole bag” was also her idea.

Gotta love how you can read an entire article, and only come away with the one sentence that supports your preconceptions. Amazing blinder-fu.

Thank you immensely for all those quotes. Every fuckin' one of them supports my point.
1196  Other / Politics & Society / Re: UN Gun control.... GO! on: March 26, 2013, 05:45:37 PM
Why is it that politics are all that is needed for me to find out who the stupid ones are?

I don't think you've found out who the stupid ones are. Witness your own non content bearing posts here.
1197  Other / Politics & Society / Re: UN Gun control.... GO! on: March 26, 2013, 05:29:43 PM
As the article stated, the designs are to satisfy the quirky and inventive taste of the Japanese. This is more fact ignoring on your part. As for you being a coward, need you compare yourself to a Japanese woman to demonstrate that you are not? Seems so.

I'm sorry, but exploring fashion trends is not a valid way to redeem yourself. Try some facts instead: http://factsanddetails.com/japan.php?itemid=816
1198  Other / Politics & Society / Re: UN Gun control.... GO! on: March 25, 2013, 06:39:05 AM
True freedom (and don't forget this, as this may be the first time you've ever learned it) is where you are safe and never have to think about encumbering yourself with the tools of murder. Japan has that. You obviously don't, as you cry everyday and night in these forums about how you're robbed of your freedoms, and fear every boy and man in a shadow behind your house and lurking in every shadow on the streets.

Tsk... I would hardly call having a policeman come into my house and count my bullets because I have a hunting permit "freedom." Guns are not the "tools of murder," they are tools of liberation.

Perhaps we have different definitions of freedom. Tell you what, you don't try and force yours on me, and I won't try and force mine on you, deal?

Let's also remind you about your rewrite of history. Japan had a very violent society and culture. Just because it's convenient for you to point out that they don't now doesn't make your point valid. All it points out is they have done something right.

As for me pushing my ideals of freedom on you - I think you are in need of some ideals of freedom pushed on you. Have you ever considered this simple little concept: if you can't solve gun murders with 300 million guns, what makes you think you're going to solve it with one billion guns?

I'm not a coward like you, fearing muggers and robbers and killers in every shadow, but I understand that they can be there. But seriously, what kind of deluded fucked up person gets off on the idea of desiring a society where you must walk around with a gun on your person all the time? Compensating, are you?
1199  Other / Politics & Society / Re: UN Gun control.... GO! on: March 25, 2013, 06:24:41 AM
Answer this, halfwit: If Japan is incarcerating the wrong people, and incarcerating so few, then why is their crime rate so low? And where are all the Japanese murders taking place in the absence of guns that you're so inclined to publicize (i.e by cars, trucks, trains and buses, knives, spoons and bottle caps, etc.)?

You must have read a different story than I. I got no implication that they were incarcerating the wrong people. In fact, the implication that I got from that was that they catch everybody. Unfortunately, they have to have a very invasive and coercive police force to do so, but, well, if you want to live in a society completely free of crime, you must occasionally submit to a cavity search.

I'll leave you with one of the founder's thoughts on that:

“I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.”

 - Thomas Jefferson

So you admit then:

- Japan has a very low crime rate
- Japan has virtually no guns
- Japanese citizens don't over compensate and do lots of killings in other ways due to not having guns
- Japan has a very low incarceration rate
- Japan must be incarcerating the right people, despite the low incarceration rates, because there don't seem to be many criminals out there committing crimes

Japanese homicide rate: 0.4
United States homicide rate: 4.8

Japanese incarceration rate: 55
United States incarceration rate: 716

Japanese guns per capita: 0.6
United States guns per capita: 88.8
Your point?

It's not the gun ban, you know. It's the people. Society.

Oh, of course it isn't the gun ban! How could it be - that would be disruptive to your ideals.

Think again, you coward. And you are a coward, because it's you always justifying your gun fetishes because of your stated fears of muggers lurking in every shadow as you walk down the street. Maybe you're a coward for good reason.

And yet in Japan you can walk safely down the streets in the middle of the night. Why? Because who wants to get searched and then hauled off to the police station? Nobody. The solution? Don't break the fucking law. The result: Complete safety at all hours of the night. No muggers in shadows. No gun wielding freaks.

True freedom (and don't forget this, as this may be the first time you've ever learned it) is where you are safe and never have to think about encumbering yourself with the tools of murder. Japan has that. You obviously don't, as you cry everyday and night in these forums about how you're robbed of your freedoms, and fear every boy and man in a shadow behind your house and lurking in every shadow on the streets.
1200  Other / Politics & Society / Re: UN Gun control.... GO! on: March 25, 2013, 06:11:06 AM
Answer this, halfwit: If Japan is incarcerating the wrong people, and incarcerating so few, then why is their crime rate so low? And where are all the Japanese murders taking place in the absence of guns that you're so inclined to publicize (i.e by cars, trucks, trains and buses, knives, spoons and bottle caps, etc.)?

You must have read a different story than I. I got no implication that they were incarcerating the wrong people. In fact, the implication that I got from that was that they catch everybody. Unfortunately, they have to have a very invasive and coercive police force to do so, but, well, if you want to live in a society completely free of crime, you must occasionally submit to a cavity search.

I'll leave you with one of the founder's thoughts on that:

“I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.”

 - Thomas Jefferson

So you admit then:

- Japan has a very low crime rate
- Japan has virtually no guns
- Japanese citizens don't over compensate and do lots of killings in other ways due to not having guns
- Japan has a very low incarceration rate
- Japan must be incarcerating the right people, despite the low incarceration rates, because there don't seem to be many criminals out there committing crimes

Japanese homicide rate: 0.4
United States homicide rate: 4.8

Japanese incarceration rate: 55
United States incarceration rate: 716

Japanese guns per capita: 0.6
United States guns per capita: 88.8
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