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1181  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: You lose only if you sell on: July 23, 2017, 09:03:07 AM
I have been following the market from quite a long. What all I have learned so far is that during the time of extensive negative speculation as was in this case it is always best to hold Bitcoin and even buy More but never ever sell. Always these rounds of negative speculations have ended in nothing and rather opposite happens.
But if you are a trader from 2015, you will know in August usually have crash on Bitcoin market in history, although I not now the reason making that, but the history can repeat anytime and if this crash will repeat in 2017, August 1st is best time for do that!

All the morr chance of us stocking up on btc for a future good run. I wouldn t mind if there's a big crash coming thus august as i'd rrally take the opportunity then to buy more btcs. As we can see just recently, the downward slide didn t actually last long and now btc's gone quite higher than the price it went stagnant at for the past month. It can only go better from here
1182  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is 1000 btc Possible on: July 23, 2017, 08:52:07 AM
To earn such a big number of bitcoin all that required is huge amount of fiat. Only with that, earning big amount is possible. Even with huge volume of fiat people fear of risking their hard earnings. So possibilities were there and the potential to grab depends upon the user.

That's correct for now, at old times, people used to get more bitcoin for their fiat currency and mining activities. Remember that one thousand of bitcoins is almost equal to three millions us dollars. This is a huge amount. Cathing this could be possible with trading and if you start with 100 btc and you're lucky, why not.

Yeah first you have to have a significant capital to realistic. Of course if you're lucky you can achieve this with a smaller capital but chances of being that lucky is very slim. Even 100btc is already going to be a life changing amount for most of us and gunning for 1k btc can change your life for good.
1183  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Can u turn 25$ to 5000$ in 6 months trading cryptos? on: July 23, 2017, 08:48:40 AM
i think with a proper knowledge and experience it is possible to hit $5000 with just $25 capital. trade with ironballs. and no emotions. no fear trading and getting the science of it will lead you to success.

I agree that this is possible but indon't think anyone would be capable of doing it. There would be few traders skilled enough to accomplish this in that span if time. I myself don't think i can do it but for sure there are experienced traders who would be able to hit that target. It's going to be really difficult though.
1184  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: July 22, 2017, 12:38:34 PM
I don't know why but I always get a feeling to gamble, after then losing my money, I quit for some time and then continue, but I know I will lose my btc Sad

Why is it so addictive?

Given the fact that Gambling brings a lot of fun and excitement towards the people who playing it. Also, we were given this idea that we can double or triple our money in gambling. Gambling is can really make you rich, We are greedy and that's a fact. We don't settle for just an small amount of profit *even though, it already doubles our income*  We wanted more! Our mind is telling us to stop but our emotions are stopping us to do so.

In other words its just one's greed. I would like to point out that some people gamble out of desperation and ego as well. Sometimes they feel jealous of people winning big and they are into the delusion that they will also win it and become rich. The fact is that many people are poor and they fall for gambling easily. They need to control their greed and not get their emotions get the better of them.

Some people simply gets addicted easily as well. When they see fun and excitement in things, they put in a lot of time in it. In gambling addiction's case, it's time and money. What's really dangerous is that compared other addiction, gambling addiction can seriously take away all you've worked hard for. And it can affect more people than just the addicted person.
1185  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Superstition on: July 22, 2017, 12:20:30 PM
I also have my own superstition when i'm gambling, i usually happen to the clothes whos i wear, like a lucky suit. There are 2 colors of clothes that make me lucky when i'm playing. Including the shirt of red and white, i often experience luck with those colored clothes.

Another believer I guess. Well I don't find anything wrong about superstitions. I myself have my lucky suspenders and my lucky number.. Those things that makes us think positive is always a good thing. Smiley

Though i'm not really a fan of superstition as i'm not a believer of it, it's good that you guys have something that you consider lucky. Having a lucky item or a lucky routine that you do before gambling makes you feel good about yourself and your chances and that's always a good thing. Though there may be instances when even that won't really bring you luck, becoming positive makes gambling a lot more fun and enjoyable.
1186  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: July 22, 2017, 12:12:59 PM
I see no point in using analysis in gambling. Gambling is primarily created for pleasure, and then for a possible win in case of luck. The analysis is appropriate for trade.

Even in gambling we still need an analysis. We did it but maybe we don't aware of it. When we pick a team to stake our money for example, I bet we already make an analysis in our mind, it goes on naturally. Although in gambling luck is everything but I guess no one will risk their money blindly.

Yeah. Analysis in gambling is not constraint to whether you can analyze the results or not. It goes way beyond that. You analyze from the time that you decide to place a bet on something. How much you'll bet, up until what amount or what time you'll be betting, what you'll do in case a certain situation comes up, a lot of things are to be considered. This helps us to either easily cope up with a loss, or minimize our losses.
1187  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Getting started with sports betting! on: July 22, 2017, 08:26:52 AM
before starting with sports betting make sure you know it very well, unless you will lose your money faster than you ever imagine . Thanks.

That's a givne already as there are few people foolish enough to bet on a random sport that they know nothing about. Of course you'd want to bet on something where you know you'll have a good chance of winning so that means at least choose a sport you know anlot about. It's really not hard when you're doing sport bets as information is readily available online or tips also from a lot of fans.
1188  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you a problem gambler? on: July 22, 2017, 08:12:22 AM
I'm not a problem gambler,  I just usually play in the gambling site for fun and entertainment only.
Then rather than that nothing else. Maybe to others who always loose in the game thy are the problem gamblers I think.
As long as you are remaining as entertainment seeking gambler, you can enjoy as a problem free gambler for sure. Those gambler who are seeking money from gambling finding their life struggling with lots of gambling problems.

Losses and then facing problems are most common for any gambler but if you are managing yourself not facing any problem due to gambling then you must be doing gambling in the right way how it should be played. Honestly it is not possible for most of the gamblers here, your must be lucky, you are already into right way of gambling, keep it up.

If gambling is a way for you to cope up with your problems, then you're likely in store for more problems than the one you currently have. If you have a problem, never resort to gambling to forget or find solutions. It almist all the time.makes it a lot worse. Its even more foolish than drinking alcohol as thia involves you making decisions with money on the line. The fact thatbyou have a problem you're thinking about makes it hard to make rational and sound decisions in gambling
1189  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does the location affect when we gamble? on: July 22, 2017, 08:07:59 AM
No gambling is gambling no matter any were you are it is still all the same. Location doesn't affect it.

It does. In a lot of ways. Sometimes it's illegal in the place where we're at and if we pursue gambling despite that, we're committing an illegal act. It varies from one location to another. Sometimes it's psycbological. There are people who preder silent rooms to concentrate more, while there are also who prefwr the fun loud environment of casinos. I agree that it's the same in terms of the act but gbling is more than that.
1190  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: July 22, 2017, 06:32:51 AM
I personally knew a few people, whose lives got destroyed due to their addiction to gambling. If someone have money to lose (in gambling; because gambling mean lose) please make me a pm and I will give him my bitcoin wallet address where he/she without problems can send all the coins with which want to gamble.

Lol. Good one Cheesy i agree with you there as well and though we really can't stop people from thinking they can have a better futire when they gamble, we can still advise and give examples. I also know a lot whose lives were completely changed by too much gambling. Family persons who lost time for what's more important to them, well-to-do people who got into debts and lost properties, and a lot more gambling horror stories.
1191  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: July 22, 2017, 06:23:31 AM
That depends a lot on the game. If the game is purely luck based, then the only way in which experience would matter would be knowing when to stop and not risking more money than you can afford to lose.
If the game can be played with strategy, by reading the other players' psychological reactions or trains of thought, or with "counting cards" types of moves, then experience starts playing an immense role and will make the difference between winning and losing.
It may have an effect on both luck based and skill based games though. Experienced players make less mistakes than those that doesn't have much experience yet. It also is a big factor in terms of self control since an experience gambler would already have known the consequences of the decisions he will make. Lessons have been learned and they're probably better decision makers if they're doing it for a long time now
1192  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Would you login to a gambling site with Twitter, Google or Facebook Id? on: July 22, 2017, 06:19:25 AM
I haven't seen any gambling platform these days having option of login through social media accounts because who want to give away all their personal details to an unknown guy/platform over the internet. I will never expose myself while gambling..

I think are a couple of sites that require logging in to social media sites to have access to certain features and bonuses though i haven't yet seen any that requires that to log in to the acct itself. And i also wouldn't spare any time in those sites as there are a lot of gambling sites that are more secure and established without requiring such access to your personal accounts. Just move on to another site if you're not comfortable linking your social media accounts in a gambling site
1193  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread on: July 22, 2017, 05:48:24 AM
I think Tyson Fury got into Klitschko's head with the talk leading up to the fight. That made Klitschko hesitant and paralyzed him.

Still need to watch more of GGG and Saul Alvarez's fights to get a better indication of how good they are. I kind of get the feeling both guys are overrated and only look good due to boxing's talent being thin these days.

I agree with you there dude except for ggg being overrated. Boxing nowadays are being marred by controversy after controversy which really takes away the attention and interest of people from it and shifting more to a more realistic mma. But i think golovkin is legitimate and is one of the few guys that people would still want to watch. We don't have that much fighters that can draw attention for boxing now.
1194  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: July 22, 2017, 05:43:32 AM
BREAKING NEWS:

Kyrie Irving Requesting Trade From Cleveland Cavaliers

I verified first the story and I found it legit. To the link I provided, Im just disagree to the last part "Is this the end of LeBron James’ era?" LOL. Cavaliers with Kyrie when Lebron is not yet returning to The Land never entered the playoffs for 3 season and his first playoff experience just started when Big 3 of Cavaliers was formed.

Just amazed that even he already experienced championship, still he will give up his max contract in Cleveland worth lots of $$$$$$ in 2019.

Hmm. This is interesting indeed. He is worth millions of dollars and what give up on it? Did he think that he and Lebron can't make a good run together and be a champion again? Or he want to be a franchise player and proved that he got what it takes to be a champion without Lebron on his side? Or he and Lebron has some kind of beef? What do you think guys?

Maybe that is why Cavs is shopping and want to get to Derrick Rose. Contingency plans if ever Kyrie would leave. But I think its gonna be a different Cavs once Kyrie leaves. And where would Kyrie move that will make him the superstar that he wants?

He probably thought it would be better to try and make a championship run woth another team as lebron has too much control over what's going on in the franchise. Kid might have thought that teams are going to get a lot better trying to beat the warriors and notnhe cavs. There are whispers that he wants to be traded to a team from the west, most likely the spurs though i don't think there will be a good trading option for cleveland as kyrie's stick has considerably risen these past few years
1195  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is betting a good choice for a newbie? on: July 22, 2017, 05:37:16 AM
it depends if the newbie is ready to lose his/her money buts its ok for newbies to bet because they dont greed alot since they are new but to be honest its better to not gamble as it makes you addict to it and you want to bet everytime you have money on your pocket , even they are new they can still be greedy and ended up lose all of the money and calls the site scam ive seen some few new players call the site scam because they lose at the site

Betting is notnreally as bad as dice or roulette or baccarat. It's quite a bit easier to play and easier to leave from also. Sports betting can be done without really being in a casino or in front of a computer all the time. If a person eould really want to try gambling, then betting would actually be a good way to start.
1196  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mayweather Vs McGregor: Info and prediction thread on: July 22, 2017, 05:34:14 AM
I watched highlights of Floyd's last fight with Andre Berto 2 years ago. Floyd looked slower, less technical and less athletic. He looks like he's getting old and his skills are deteriorating. Not certain if that will factor into his fight with Conor. Floyd admitting he's not as good a boxer today as he was 2 years ago.

We may have a better idea of how good a boxer Conor is after he spars with Malignaggi.

But Andre Berto isn't old and he is an elite boxer, sure he isn't the best of the best but winning a match against Andre Berto when Floyd didn't even try that hard shows the incredible skill of Floyd.

Conor is not even a boxer, so it should be easier for Floyd. Floyd always stays in shape, I don't think he aged that much, he is looking good.
I agree with Hydrogen that Mayweather now is slower than before .I think Mcgregor isn't a real boxer but he have the power and he will target the weaknesses of Mayweather over its strength because in a dirty fight of mayweather , Mcgregor needs something to do.

Do you really think that the boxing association will let that happen? They are taking care of Mayweather's rank and record.
They are already in a bad position considering they let Horn win in that fight at Australia with Pacquiao which is really obvious that PacMan won the fight.
This is just another money making event that people wont see. They are just milking the wallets of the people and it can be seen in thr name of Mayweather. McGregor should have just stayed in MMA, he will just break his jaw here.

Though i agree that this probably is just a circus fight, i don't agree that people won't see this. We may be looking at one of the richest fights in boxing hiatory here. The two fighters are doing a very very good job promoting their match and a lot would definitely pay to see this. Also, though floyd's getting old and slower, and connor's at his prime pretty much, you can't take away the fact that this is floyd's game. Experience for years will most likely decide the winner and though i think connor has a legitimate chance of beating floyd, it's more likely we'll see another boring fight with mayweather's hands being raised at the end of the final bell
1197  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you feel when win in gambling? on: July 22, 2017, 05:27:48 AM
There is no denying the joy  feeling when we win in gambling.  I often times jump in joy when my bet hits the  winning combination in racing game.  Aside from that I also grin with excitement when I guessed the right result in dice game.  So that is the feeling when I win in a gambling game.  I bet everyone feel the same way too.

I can't imagine anyone who'd feel differently dude. Yeah you're right, it's a really good feeling when you win a bet that sometimes you get too excited and want to do it over and over again. The joy that comes after the excitement is so fulfilling and add tonthe fact that you're going to get a reward or a prize makes it a lot more gratifying. Which makesnit really dangerous to lose yourself into though.
1198  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: In Gambling, Money is not everything on: July 22, 2017, 05:24:05 AM
It is and people will only lose if they have money and most people on the internet surely have money , if they gambled for fun spending 100$ just for fun won't make any sense if someone wins big they show off their earnings and when they lose they simply say they gambled for fun. Gambling is a really bad addiction

Those are the liars who say that they gamble only for fun as to have fun and getting entertained there are many other ways from where you can get satisfactions so why to waste money in gambling from where you are not getting anything in return.
They simply lie about gambling for fun because they want to hide their emotions in front of others they don't want others to led them down for having all the loses but instead they just change the topic by saying they had gambled for fun and losing this much doesn't affect them at all
In everyone of us, we always want to benefit in the end. We always want to be positive in our profits and I think that's totally natural. No need to hide that, I'm saying that we should be truthful to ourselves and not hide at all. Maybe doing this can increase your chances.

Not really. Different people do things fir different purposes. When you say those people saying that they gamble only for fun are liars, you haven't been in everyone's shoes so you won't really know. I know some old folks who happen to frequent casinos because they enjoy playing slot machines. These old folks have a set amount for playing and i'm pretty sure they're not after the prize. They're there because they enjoy themselves along with theirbither old friends binding and enjoying the feelng of simply playing there.
1199  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you would win a Jackpot what would you do with the money? on: July 22, 2017, 05:19:17 AM
It is going to be a dream come true when I'm going to win 200 bitcoins. I don't know if how I'm going to use that jackpot if ever I'll be the lucky one to win this. Everyone gave their idea of what they are going purchase and probably I'll do the same, buy my own house and car for sure.
Most of the users make their dreams come true. In specific people update the living standard and if the same happens with me I'll be investing a small amount into offline business. So that I can make people understand that I'm making a self earning as well concentrate on bitcoin related activities. Only the courageous people gets jackpot, because very few risk big for grabbing the big.


More than courageous, lucky people get the jackpot. A lot of jackpot winners don't even expect to win probably have forgotten they made the bet when they find out they've won. Me, i'd probably travel the world with my loved ones before i think about getting down tonwhat i'd to to the money for business. I'll make the most out of it by doing everything i won't be able to do at my current financial status.
1200  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: July 22, 2017, 05:06:54 AM
Trading bitcoin (like Forex) is almost the same as gambling IMO, unless you do it with effort and analysis, it might even be very hard for newbies to do analysis from my previous experience and more of gamblers rather than traders.
Of course trading is better than gambling, it's just common sense considering gambling is trading but with negative odds (house edge).

Trading is similar to gambling but they are not totally similar. They have still some differences, we are just talking about the risk that we may take in trading and gambling. If you want to be safe with your bitcoins and you want to earn slowly but surely then you may choose to go with trading. But if you want fast way of earning, go for gambling.
In general, trading is not similar to gambling at all. Although that does depend on the game. Poker can be similar to trading, since it involves a psychological aspect. But traditional "gambling" games are nothing like trading, unless the "trader" has no clue what he's doing and trading blindly.

I don't understand why poker is the only game you compared with trading as similar activities. They have both risk and needs extensive way of thinking and in that way that's making me and others believe they have similarity but has still some differences that makes it not totally and completely the same.
Poker was just one example. Poker involves many factors that influence the outcome of the game, just like trading does. Rolling dice however, is just flat-out chance, at least if you're not rolling a physical die that you have practiced throwing for years on end.

Well do have any other gambling games in mind dude that compares to trading other than poker? It's not surprising that poler gets compared to trading all.the time because it is the closest gambling game to trading in a lot of aspects. Luck plays a part but not entirely and it would be how you understand what you're doing that would dictate the outcome. The risks are there but both have calculated risks that can be minimized by experience. The more experience you have the bigger chanve of you getting the result you want. Aside from poker and sports betting, there really aren't any gambling games comes close to trading.
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