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11821  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: NXT 2.0 Ardor No ICO Speculation - Live Now on: July 14, 2016, 07:18:27 AM
I am wondering what will happen after all the Ardor tokens are distributed. I'm sure a lot of "investors" bought NXT only to acquire free Ardor. But I am speculating that when the distribution is over people will dump both NXT and Ardor making a double whammy profit. Unless there is an agreement among the big buyers to hold after distribution.

I don't think NXT will be worth much after the snapshots. Crypti got pumped during the Lisk IPO but now its been dumped down to the bottom of the top 100 whereas Lisk is still in the top 10. The same will probably happen to NXT and Ardor.

So you mean to say you speculate that Ardor will be held by investors but NXT will be dumped? Now that I come to think of it, you may be wrong. NXT and Crypti are in different situations. Ardor is a child chain of NXT while Lisk is a totally new blockchain. In Ardor are all the features of NXT plus more and in Lisk is a brand new untested platform. The people behind Ardor might have the upper hand from a continuity perspective and this could translate to NXT and Ardor complementing each other with each giving and taking what it has to offer with the two.
11822  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: July 14, 2016, 05:21:39 AM
I think waves should be announced progress in time, listed on the POLO as soon as possible, give investors confidence, now trading is in decline, the market seems to be dying.

Yes this is because the people are wiser now and also prone to being scared more nowadays because of the many scams that have unfolded. But Waves is not a scam. Just have patience and believe in Sasha.
11823  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: July 14, 2016, 05:19:03 AM
Profit depends on your costs. If you have monthly costs of $5 for renting a VPS where your NEM node is running, then you could be profitable by harvesting with 500k of NEM. But it also depends on your importance. Someone with a smaller amount of XEM and a high importance can be as successfully as someone with a higher amount of XEM and a lower importance.

and nobody in polo..im alone troll for xem..fuk  Cry Angry

12K is not enough to harvest many blocks... Roll Eyes

How much XEM is recommended in order for harvesting to be slightly profitable? I think a guide to how to harvest XEM should be written and posted online to encourage people to be proactive in the network.

Ok what if I am really new to NEM and I have a VPS for $5.00 a month and I have no/low importance, how much NEM must I have to harvest a decent amount of XEM? I guess like you said it is still 500,000?

Also how does one acquire importance? What are the tricks of the trade so to speak? Maybe I could become a NEM escrower? Would that help?
11824  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage - Working Beta - Currency has been released on: July 14, 2016, 05:12:59 AM
Is the rise of Sia over? I think this was only a pumped because there was no huge good news after the price went up. Or maybe we still haven't seen the best part yet?

The SIA was mined previously mainly by users, now, it is mined by the professional miners. So there will be dumps.

So does it mean that SIA will be very much the same like bitcoin? Will the professional miners also become a cartel and have power over the SIA core developers and bypass the community? I hope it's not so.
Is there a limit to the number of Sia coins that will be mined or this is limitless ? Thank you !

No, it is limitless.

The block reward drops by 1 each block(Current reward is about 240,000.) Once block 270,000 hits, the reward won't drop below 30,000. So sia is slightly inflationary.

This is an interesting direction that the SIA developers took. But what is the main reason that they made the SIA slightly inflationary instead of having a cap in total possible coins?
11825  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: July 14, 2016, 05:03:25 AM


Who cares anyway?


Today EXP passed ETH in mining profitability.



Where can we find this information? Is there a website for this?


For instance https://www.whattomine.com/coins

Or check the pools and see what people are beeing payed at diff speeds.
Today ETH is on top again, but thats barely.


The other ethash coins are worth checking out.

EXPand, SHIFT, KRypton and SOIL.

Thank you. I think ETH is finally stable. It might be a good time to start observing it again. It is understandable that people are scared in buy ETH at this time. But in coming weeks I think this will be a good buy and people will have more confidence.
11826  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ARDR][NO ICO] Ardor, or Nxt 2.0, a Scalable Child Chain Platform on: July 14, 2016, 04:59:20 AM
Please help me to understand this snapshot thing..

Let say I have 10000 nxt and remains same during the Snapshot period, which is 91 days or 2184 hours, since the snapshot will be taken on an hourly basis...


So, at the SNAPSHOT period, my total nxt accumulated if snapshot taken on a hourly basis and then added, i.e. 21840000 NXT, which then will be divided by 2184 hours, which comes to 10000 Ardor for me... ri8???

Or my concept is totally wrong..

You can use this example if i hold 10.000nxt for 14 Days with hourly snapshots.

10,000 NXT * 14 days * 24 hours / (90 days * 24 hours) = 1,555

Thx for the clarification..So, at the end of the Snapshot, my 10000 nxt, if remains same, will become 10000 ardor...

Yes Smiley you will own 10000 nxt and 10000 ardor at the end.

I am only speculating here but I want to ask what will happen to NXT after all the Ardor is already given away? Will the ones who bought NXT just to gain Ardor now dump NXT or will they dump Ardor? Or maybe dump both?

I am now suspicious that a lot of the people who recently bought NXT or only in it for the profit in bitcoins.

It's a speculative question and they are always hard to answer.

I can only answer from our position as the Nxt Foundation which is that regardless of speculation we will keep working to create and maintain value for both Nxt and Ardor.
There is no way we can stop any speculators doing what they want, but we can make sure it's used and has value. Even if some people would offload Nxt in October, we'll work to increase it again.

We've been working at that even when Nxt was at it's lowest point, and just see where it got us now. We firmly believe that success takes time and that working to create long term value is much better than reacting to speculative movements we have little control over. Smiley

Thank you for the straight and honest answer. This breeds confidence in NXT and Ardor and brings optimism to the people in and outside of your community. Such attitude will only make the platforms and community grow side by side.

So will Ardor have an asset exchange too like NXT? If yes then there will be two asset exchanges. Won't this be a competing against your own product scenario?
11827  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: July 14, 2016, 04:49:58 AM
Waves stays at 30k and no news.

I think it will go back down. The rise was nothing but merely a pump. But it seems the pumpers are not around anymore so expect it to be under 30k in the next few weeks.

Or 300k you never know, you are pretty stupid, in the last hours more than 300k waves were dumped, and any of that Waves are on the sell side, now tell me who are buying all that waves.

Please dont create panic in this thread. dolores12 fan.  Grin

Yeah, the dream of a pump to the moon. Every Altcoins Forums Dream with pusher to keep the spirit alive. Guys wake up, there will be no epic pump or something, or it would have happened already.

Investors see the potential and then they invest, but as they didnt invest they dont see that in waves, just all the coinflippers went hard into Waves. Thats plain logic. Investors are not waiting to see the network running on scorex, they see the potential and then they pump. But Waves they dumped and were shorting down to 20k.

And Sasha can NOT still get a network running and its middle of July! There are no technical updates or whatever, just scam news from paid newspartners as core media or themerkle. I bet, there will be no network runningn until end of summer. He promised you wide trading on different exchanges and all you got is the smallest exchange, because there is NO network running, just one node!

Sasha is lying to you as he always did, I know that from his other projects. Delays, no information, fake news... it hillerious how he keep it repeating with Waves too. Be warned, dont let the scammer do his job again with promises he cant hold!

The other indication is there is no interest from investors, as there is NO VOLUME in this coin. They collected 30k btc, but trading 0,3k a day! Thats not interesting for whales to play with this coin. Look at STEEM, its also only listed on bittrex as waves but having 10x more volume.  Sell Waves out as we are now still at the top of the pump.

Everyone who is afraid of panic, there is no need for panic. I am sure alot of people can get out slowly until it goes down again to 20k.

Sasha, Where is the network you promised to launch on the 14th June! one month ago? Everyone believed you AGAIN

I am not surprise that waves team are having issues with running a full node, because when was Charles Hokinson hosted by Tai and Leonfu on Google hangout, He  said that scorex nodes been used by waves team is designed for research purpose only. So good luck to them if they can make it work.

What is the difference of a node designed for research and a node designed for "production" use? I think in order to start the network quickly the default scorex node should be used. Unless Hoskinsons isn't telling us something that involves those nodes not working properly. But I think the Waves devs can make a quick fix.
11828  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: July 14, 2016, 04:42:47 AM
Disappointed to see the pump was short...

oh young padawan you have much to learn about the ways of crypto...this is no dump but a refueling break before we really moon  Wink
Looking forward to see ARDOR develop  Grin

When you say moon, at what price level would that be? Will it reach Ethereum price levels? Because that was the only rise that I have seen that had a chance to become something like bitcoin. But that was before the DAO attack. Now I think it has small chance or nothing at all.
11829  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Storj - Decentralized Storage on: July 14, 2016, 04:39:49 AM
If I were to ask what is better Storj or SIA? What would be your technical explanation why Storj would be better. SIA argues that Storj hosts won't be assured of getting paid by the storage users. Is this true?
11830  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers on: July 14, 2016, 04:35:43 AM
Thank you for the update! Many people are getting impatient because they are getting jealous with the pump of Steem. Cheesy They are all asking what is the latest news and why there is no pump in Lisk. Maybe the think you should use the ICO funds to pump LSK. Cheesy
i guess you are joking,ico funds should not be used for pump.that would be a mistake.ico funds are for real vallue developement.

I hope you are joking regarding using ICO funding for pump that is the worst idea on how to devalue coin and market manipulations at its finest - it wouldn't do LISK any good any after that pump we would see a massive dump and more coins in market circulation.

Of course I am joking. It was clearly a sarcastic comment unless english is not your first language.
11831  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers on: July 14, 2016, 04:33:40 AM
Thank you for the update! Many people are getting impatient because they are getting jealous with the pump of Steem. Cheesy They are all asking what is the latest news and why there is no pump in Lisk. Maybe the think you should use the ICO funds to pump LSK. Cheesy

I agree, you should use the funds to pump it since you kinda lost your excitement on this ,and decided to take things slow in development.

I think it is better to wait. The longer the better to make things really ready. Look at what happened to Ethereum. They were in a hurry and didn't check their system well for major glitches and bugs.
11832  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers on: July 14, 2016, 04:30:59 AM
>dat steemit

damnm why is not lisk doing the same  Huh Kiss

It's understandable that most of you just want to ride the pump and then sell for a profit. But what is essential here is the true growth of Lisk. But if you're here waiting for the pump, keep holding. It will come I assure you.

dat steemit though, 3rd place , puts every altcoin, ico, into shame, they did it
well what can you do, better luck next time

That's a pump. A lot of coins rose up to 2nd or 3rd without enough volume only to be out of the top 10 in a few days/weeks. I actually prefer Lisk to be in these prices for months to come. Stability is more important for the time being.
11833  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers on: July 13, 2016, 10:57:21 AM
Thank you for the update! Many people are getting impatient because they are getting jealous with the pump of Steem. Cheesy They are all asking what is the latest news and why there is no pump in Lisk. Maybe the think you should use the ICO funds to pump LSK. Cheesy
11834  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: NXT 2.0 Ardor No ICO Speculation - Live Now on: July 13, 2016, 10:39:55 AM
I am wondering what will happen after all the Ardor tokens are distributed. I'm sure a lot of "investors" bought NXT only to acquire free Ardor. But I am speculating that when the distribution is over people will dump both NXT and Ardor making a double whammy profit. Unless there is an agreement among the big buyers to hold after distribution.
11835  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's your biggest loss gambling? on: July 13, 2016, 10:29:09 AM
My biggest loss is .45 btc betting on different events in sports betting. I guess I was unlucky because all my bets lost that night. Grin
11836  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: July 13, 2016, 10:21:02 AM
Gambling could be risky even for rich people, because may be he will make big bets and lose big sums , so i don't think it's a effective solution.
But think about those who got rich from gambling only ?

They will surely gamble and they have every reason to justify their actions.I know a friend who earned like 10k $ in few bets and then got rich, but lost all. In such cases we cannot blame rich for gambling even when he is rich.

Those who got rich in gambling only will tend to lose it all also in gambling. One good example of this is Archie Karas. He made millions only to lose it all in a span of a few days.
11837  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling made for kids???? on: July 13, 2016, 10:07:47 AM
Kids in general shouldn't gamble, especially with money because they can easily become addicted in their adolescents. That's why you need to be over the age of 18 or 21 in most places to enter a casino.

I agree with this. And imagine kids in third world countries if they are allowed to gamble. Instead of studying hard they will only think of gambling and instead of buying food they will gamble with the little money they have. It could be considered a form of exploitation.
11838  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Steemit how can this thing be workable long term? on: July 13, 2016, 05:46:41 AM



It is not sustainable. It is like a drug. You get all this money but the money will stop. Then no one will use it.




Just like how the fiat system is not sustainable.

You can't compare it with the fiat system which is only a few % inflation, steem is 100% inflation/year  ( supply double every year)

Where does it say that there is 100% inflation every year? I think you might be mistaken. Can you post the link?
11839  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The Steemit Lie: false expectations and false advertisement on: July 13, 2016, 05:31:24 AM
A couple of questions...  How does Steemit pay off these people?  Where does Steemit get their revenue?

From what I can understand, the devs mined all of coins in the beginning and maintain control now through witnesses. The Steemit website (totally separate from the blockchain) is them redistributing these coins to users.

It's an interesting tactic. The number of coins out in the wild - the free float if you like - is miniscule. They can therefore make the coin look like it has this massive cap when in fact it doesn't. A good example of this is the ask side on Bittrex, which at 35,000 Steem is currently less than 0.05% of the supply.

Btw, currently $400M cap supported by a whole 200 BTC on Trex. lolol...

Very smart of the creators of Steem. They beat everyone to the punch and could be on a potential gold mine here.
11840  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Steemit how can this thing be workable long term? on: July 13, 2016, 05:28:27 AM



It is not sustainable. It is like a drug. You get all this money but the money will stop. Then no one will use it.




Just like how the fiat system is not sustainable. But you don't see the potential here. The question is how high will it go and for how long? By saying "it is not sustainable" you already closed your imagination to the possibilities and have bias to want to see it fail.
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