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11981  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammed by Bitcoindynamic on: April 28, 2015, 12:11:11 PM
Sorry for your loss. I was told that Skrill can be charged back. Can't you file for it?
Maybe if you present all the information, they might seize his account?

You can only reverse transactions via Skrill if the cash was loaded from a stolen CC else there is no way it could be reversed unlike PP.
11982  Other / Off-topic / Re: As a matter of fact.. on: April 28, 2015, 12:10:22 PM
LOL! You are unaware of who founded Bitcoin? Tongue
Satoshi Nakamoto? Why do you think the smallest unit of Bitcoin is named satoshi?

btw, that is my alt.  Grin

No. I only know who is the Prime Minister of my country as that's some useful information for me  Cheesy

Great to know that it was your alt  Tongue Although I don't believe you  Grin
11983  Other / Meta / Re: people "buying" trust without you noticing? on: April 28, 2015, 11:35:50 AM
There's no harm till a person is repaying his loans. It's not actually buying trust but it's building up trust and there are many members who do that but are trustworthy as well.
11984  Other / Off-topic / Re: As a matter of fact.. on: April 28, 2015, 11:32:20 AM

No I dint know about this member. Thanks for the profile link  Smiley

But he is inactive since 2010  Undecided
11985  Other / Meta / Re: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ on: April 28, 2015, 10:51:49 AM
Ok thanks, that is good to know!  I won't report racist, offensive or sexist comments anymore then if it is just wasting everyones time.
I guess I should have been able to work it out for myself, almost the entire politics and society secotion would be deleted if abuse wasn't allowed!

If you check that section, it has not been assigned to any moderator and hence very rarely comments get deleted if found spammy. I mostly avoid that section as I don't want to get abused and I have also seen threatening comments made to members. It's considered as a cyber crime and even FB and Twitter allows users to report such comments but this forum does not moderate it. It's better to ignore that section as all immature members are active there.
11986  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammed by Bitcoindynamic on: April 28, 2015, 10:30:18 AM
I had contacted him earlier to buy my skrill but fortunately he denied me as the amount was very small and in any case, I never send first. He only accepts large amounts which looked suspicious and he turned out to be a scammer.
11987  Other / Meta / Re: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ on: April 28, 2015, 09:19:09 AM
I can't find the answer in the OP so I'll ask here. Is racism allowed on the Bitcointalk forum? 

I have reported a few posts that are blatantly racist, but I see that they are classed as falsely reported.  I won't report it anymore if it is allowed on the forum, seems pretty crazy to allow it though in my opinion.

AFAIK Yes but if the post is really insulting, it (probably) will be deleted.

I was told by the MOD that even abusive comments aren't deleted nor are personal attacks or threatening comments deleted. Racist comments are hurting but they aren't against the rules. Only Spam is deleted.
11988  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Get-Paid.com - Get Paid BTC For Doing Free & Fun Stuff! [Running over 6 years!] on: April 27, 2015, 07:48:02 PM
Another quick announcement:
Check our Google+ page (link in our site) for easy and free 10 coins (Get-Paid coins, not BTC, but you can convert/redeem these coins to BTC).


I posted my username on the Google+ page but the coins weren't added to my account.
11989  Other / Off-topic / Re: As a matter of fact.. on: April 27, 2015, 07:37:47 PM

Is Satoshi only the name of a coin or is there a human named Satoshi? I have been hearing about him/it but thought epople are just joking  Cheesy
11990  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mystery BTC deposit on: April 27, 2015, 07:20:07 PM
Bitcoin wallets should have a protected code like Perfect Money has wherein a person can chose to receive the money or not. Receiving such unwanted bits is just a waste. Two more users reported this and received 0.0001 BTC from an HYIP/Ponzi website.
11991  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Exercise 'not key to obesity fight' on: April 27, 2015, 05:49:17 PM
This is a myth that exercise is enough to lose weight but you need to have a healthy diet as well. Too much exercise as well can have adverse effects ad a person cannot consume cheese, butter or junk food in excess if they are obese. A normal person can eat once a while and not daily.

There's no myth. The only way to lose weight or to remain healthy is eat less and exercise more. You can eat as much as you want as long as you burn it off though a poor diet will have other negative effects on your health in the long run.

I have seen many people who believe that if they exercise a lot, they can eat anything they like and will always remain thin. My own friend who is overweight exercises for almost 5 hours but then has pizzas every weekend which ruins her diet.

It's not necessary to eat less but it's necessary to know what to eat and what to avoid. Too much of oil, cheese, butter and fats cannot be sonsumed and it's better to avoid them rather than to get addicted to these food stuffs.
11992  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: *20 USERS* Scammer Speaks Up (Uncovered) on: April 27, 2015, 05:39:00 PM

To be honest i have no idea why he thought he was safe to admit it to me, but i'm not complaining. I tried to take advantage as much as i can about him being open and get him to reveal as much as possible. I also have a feeling duckydonald is another one of his accounts.


He seems to be a psycho lol

Here is another account of his: mikescott077 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=61142 (and is account is filled with red markings)

Email: mikescott191@hotmail.com (Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=907949.msg9979030#msg9979030)
11993  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Money Laundering? Has it gone too far? on: April 27, 2015, 03:22:02 PM
For a common man, there is nothing like a free society.

Even if you sell or buy anything, you need to declare it and pay taxes. They don't want anyone to have black money or store money in their own house. If one wants to not invest money in the bank, he is considered to have black money and is forced to pay taxes on each and every product else he is considered to be money laundering.

Even when my parents sold their house and we got 50% cash in hand, we were asked several questions while investing it in the bank and made us to give them proof as well. Our money and their rules & regulation.

When I withdraw money as well, I need to answer their useless questions that why I am taking out so much money, where will I be using it  Angry
11994  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [WTS] Flipkart/Amazon via Payza/BTC/OKPay/PM/Bank Transfer/ZipCash/Skrill on: April 27, 2015, 02:48:39 PM
Have $15 worth Amazon gift cards for sale.
how much you want for this?how much discount you are offering

I am selling the cards for the same rate via BTC/PM/OKPay. 5% discount is available via Bank Transfer.
11995  Economy / Services / Re: [Hiring] Simple research and data entry - Quick $5 on: April 27, 2015, 11:58:24 AM
I'm interested in doing this job. Pm me the details Smiley
11996  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin as a Retirement Account on: April 27, 2015, 11:45:41 AM
Every month, your employer transfers Bitcoins into a time-locked address that can't be transferred out before you reach retirement age.  You have the key to the address.  You can verify the transfer on the blockchain.

No middle-men.  No funny business.  No brokers with pyramid/eyeball shaped logos.  No "oops we went bankrupt and lost your retirement."  No bail-ins.  No raising the age of retirement.

Just Bitcoin.

Actually, you don't even need an employer. You can do it all by yourself on a dedicated wallet.


What makes that dedicated wallet to be safe?
For instance, what prevents BlockChain.info website from closing its doors tomorrow?
Is it subject to any regulation?


It's true that blockchain has no future and can shut down anytime. I have seen people saving thousands of dollars in the wallet and waiting for the price to rise. What if that website shuts down? They will lose such a huge amount.

Similarly, Liberty Reserve as well shut down and I along with other people lost so many dollars. It's risky to keep an account locked in any wallet and it's no safe even to store amount in just 1 bank account. My family members have lost lacs due to their mistake as the 2 banks just shut down due to bankruptcy.


If anyone feels that bitcoin wallets/blockchain can be used as a saving account, don't forget that the currency isn't regulated and if the website itself shuts down, you can lose everything in a second. Blockchain doesn't even have any verification process nor any other wallet has any kind of verification like PayPal/Payza and hence they aren't reliable. It's better to convert it into fiat when you receive it.
11997  Other / Meta / Re: Contribute To Bitcoin Economy... on: April 27, 2015, 11:37:29 AM

Honestly, a trustworthy member won't sell the account he make. I don't think he is trustworthy.


I know this user krishatnet is from India and I checked the date of the thread when he sold his account and after that this scamming thread was created and it was about a Vanilla card. It isn't possible for a user to suddenly start scamming after he listed an account sales thread.


He did a mistake of selling a trusted account and hence I find it weird that other members too sell their green trust accounts for money as it gets a higher value. For BTC, they don't mind selling their trust. The buyer doesn't deserve the positive nor the negative trust and when buying/selling trust isn't allowed in the forum, I don't know why selling trusted accounts is allowed.


As theymos said, account selling is like selling your identity. The Government as well doesn't allow a citizen to own more than one national ID proof (eg: Pan card) else people would have started selling that ID proof as well for money. It would be one user with many ID proofs and many citizens trading and working with that same person's ID proof. Similar case is with selling an account where the trust as well is being sold.


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He derails thread and tell others did it.


I just checked the above posts and am shocked to see pictures and boyfriends being discussed. A serious matter has become a joke.  Lips sealed

11998  Other / Meta / Re: Contribute To Bitcoin Economy... on: April 27, 2015, 10:50:13 AM
What makes you think the account was sold? I see that you had posted in that thread saying you know him from elsewhere, but unless he gave some kind of proof then him claiming it was sold would likely just be him trying to protect his reputation.

The account was likely worth more then 1.3 BTC (the amount scammed) so the scam in question was not economical for the owner of the account. Sure the victim is out $325, however account owners would have incentives to not scam with such accounts.

Also banning the sale of accounts would likely cause the prices of accounts to decline (there would be an additional risk the account get banned if it is discovered to be sold) so the above incentive not to scam would be removed (or lessened)

I know the user from another forum and I spoke to him a week after posting on that thread. He then told me he sold the account and told me about his new account as well and on checking his new account, he had an account sales account.


That user is quite reputed and hence I know that the account who bought his account was a scammer. He does not care about the reputation of the sold account as he already sold it.

If account sales is banned, it shouldn't affect those accounts which are already sold/bought but only the future sales would stop. Account prices wouldn't matter.

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@OP: This isn't about trust and it's about account sales. I thought that this thread is about account sales  Undecided

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I am listing my points which can be the negatives of selling/buying accounts:

1. The original owner has been spamming earlier to increase his activity and has not been a part of the signature campaign.

The account is sold and now the account (most probably) gets banned as the new owner made few short posts (not really insubstantial) but his post history is full of spam. Account is useless now.

2. The account was banned earlier (once or twice) and the original owner doesn't mention the same. Then the account probably gets banned again. EG: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=994097.0;topicseen

3. The account was earlier loan defaulted and used as a collateral. High chances of it getting a negative trust and hence it cannot be used for earning via a signature campaign.

4. Accounts get hacked and sold and signed messages aren't provided.

5. Accounts with green trust are sold and they can be easily used for scamming newbies.

6. Account sold and the original owner provides fake evidence of his sold account to be charged for scamming and hence makes it get negative trust.


There can be many possibilities and negatives associated with buying and selling accounts and the above cases have been proved true as well. Sixth one may sound illogical but it's definitely a possibility.
11999  Other / Meta / Re: Contribute To Bitcoin Economy... on: April 26, 2015, 09:14:35 PM
Do you have any examples of this? It seems that most scams are attempted by low level accounts and accounts that are unlikely to have been purchased.

If you can't get a signed message for any reason then it would probably be best to have that person send first or to use an escrow service to protect your money

I posted the case above: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=936429.0 (where the accused had sold his green trust account which was later used to scam a well known scammer).

Krishatnet's account was sold and it had green trust. The person who traded with him trusted him because of the trust rating. But unfortunately, the person who was scammed turned out to be a scammer himself so his case wasn't entertained. There can be more cases as well but they might not have been addressed.
12000  Other / Meta / Re: Contribute To Bitcoin Economy... on: April 26, 2015, 09:03:34 PM


People should ask for a signed message when trading with someone and the trade would involve them taking any kind of risk. If there is no risk on a trader's part, then there is no reason to ask for a signed message - for example if you are selling me 1 BTC for 200 LTC and our agreement is that I will send you 200 LTC after I receive 1 BTC from you then I have no reason to ask you for a signed message because I am taking no risk.

It is a good practice to always provide a signed message whenever trading with someone, especially when giving an address to send to as when a dispute arrises you can simply ask your trading partner to provide the signed message you provided and the blockchain should provide the rest of the evidence.

I am not talking about already established members/members who already know the meaning of a signed message or how to read it. Scams mainly take place with newbies. Very rarely I have seen established members getting scammed. The scam accusation boards are filled with claims from newbies.

Some don't know the meaning of escrow/signed messages/account sales. They get scammed mainly because of the trust or by an old account that's trusted. I know that it happens very rarely as mainly accounts are bought for Signature Campaigns but some are bought to scam as well and this has been proven to be true as well. A person can go about editing/deleting all his previous messages which reveal the original account holders identity and in that case, a signed message would not work. It would be only theymos who could get back the deleted messages/edited comments.
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