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121  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto VS national currency on: May 31, 2018, 02:32:11 PM
I found this expression on the news channel about the crypto currency: "Anyone who will try  to buy coffee for cash in 2023, runs the risk of causing laughter from the seller, that he does not use crypto currency."
how do you think, is it realistic? Can a crypto currency replace national  money?
I think that it's possible, but it will take more time.
Yeah, you are right it is so possible to happen the bitcoin can replace the fiat or real money. There is a lot of places don’t acknowledge the bitcoin, and not all person understands the benefits of the bitcoin. Mostly now the government make a step against on the crypto. But time will come bitcoin will become famous, and we can use this alternative form of currency.
122  Economy / Economics / Re: Wise thing to do with your savings. on: May 31, 2018, 01:54:20 PM
I see that many of you actually liked the concept of 20 % method wherein you allot 20% of your earnings to be saved as emergency fund.
So I was thinking, if that 20% allotted will be invested in a time deposit kind of account, will it still be possible to earn as much or invest it in cryptocurrency? Or maybe just let the money sleep until such time you will need it?
What will be a wise kove to do with the noney you have saved up?
I think wise saving money is work hard, live cheap and control yourself to buy unimportant things. Work hard because of this an only way to have money. Live cheaper understand the value of a salary that you gain and make informed and thoughtful decisions if you want to buy something stuff that not relevant to yourself. Multiple your extra money.
123  Other / Off-topic / Re: Money for school fees. Invested in bitcoin. on: May 31, 2018, 07:21:52 AM
Hi there! I just need your advice. I invested the money instead of paying my school fees. Yeah, i know this is wrong because education is more important to us and it can't be stealed from us, i'm still studying but my fees will be doubled on the next payment. But i believe this will end a good result. What do you think about this ? Your advice will be highly appreciated. Thanks!
I am glad you know that is the wrong side. I feel you need more money to buy your desire. Why you all funds put on investing on the bitcoin. I guess if only the half money, you know that too risky invest if the money you put is needed later. Don’t do it again. Think wise way to have extra cash. I am better to find extra money more than putting on the investing. After you finish your education, you can invest in it. For now, spend only the funds that don’t need anymore.
124  Economy / Speculation / Re: Perfect Time to Buy! on: May 31, 2018, 06:46:12 AM
With all the good news coming out in favor of bitcoin like Expedia accepting bitcoin etc it's time to buy with the price going down. You will not be so lucky next week. I strongly believe it's going to reach $700 by end of next week!
After four years 6,300K USD increase of the value of the bitcoin. That so incredible. Speaking of the perfect time to buy the bitcoin. For me, this is the best time because the bitcoin value drops not only bitcoin drop the even the altcoins. So, don’t waste this opportunity to enter the world of crypto. Don’t to be worry bitcoin prices will recover and wait until last quarter of this year.
125  Economy / Economics / Re: Choosing the one | What I think! - Real Job or Full Time Crypto! on: May 30, 2018, 03:33:12 PM
I have read many threads talking over this subject and came to know that many people are very confused about their real job and the crypto world. So out of the panic they have started creating many threads like this. I thought to write some suggestions and kind of roadmap so that people can actually choose what is right and wrong for them. Hope this will help.

If this questions concerns a lot to you then you should know the difference between two.

                                                        _____Real Job______.           
|.    _____Crypto Job_____

                                                            1. Secured fro lifetime.                       
| 1. Unsecured for lifetime
                                                            2. Gives you fixed Income.                 
| 2. Income is not fixed
                                                            3. Promotion Opporutnities.               
| 3. Not Applicable
                                                            4. Yearly Hikes in the Salary.               
| 4. Not Applicable
                                                            5. Recognition in the Colleagues.       
|5. Not Applicable


These are the most vital points in both of them or at least this is what concern a lot to us while following both of them.

However I believe that what matters is the output which is "Money" And when you have enough money then that = Stability in your life.

This can be achieved in easiest way when you have all the point that are covered under the list of "Real Job". I mean if Im coming home everyday with hard work and for which I will get the sure shot salary at the month end then I would be happy for that and will loose most of the tension over that fact.

Lets consider the same case with the crypto currencies and earning through that.

What options do we have under the Crypto venture?
1. Signature Campaigns
2. Social Media Campaigns
3. Bounty Programs (Same thing with token payout)
4. Media Publications
5. Trading
6. Gambling
7. Lending
8. Hardware Mining
9. Coding (Hardest One to get in)
10.Becoming Managers (Very Stable but tougher to reach that level).

Woof! Thats lot of ways with which I could actually earn from the crypto currency. So I might just think that I will leave my job and will focus on all of them.

But what, lets think about it for a moment! Are they really reliable sources with which we could really go for rest of the life? Im pretty sure most of you will say may be, or some of you who are already very old in this field might just say yes. But, I believe its not that easy to work with all if them altogether and you have no assurance that you will get into campaigns all the time and you may not earn the fixed income form these options creating the instability in your house.

Most of the options above need initial investment and some of them are not even fool proof.

We have to agree that becoming manager here is not everyones play so we should consider that option equal to null.

However, real job salary covers all the points in it and we could easily survive! Thats the whole point.

The End Results?

I wish I could have easily said that we can live happy life just on the crypto currency. Unfortunately, I believe that real job is better than the virtual games. I would really suggest that we should look after the family planning, house stability in all possible ways. There is no way we can have that much stability with just crypto world.

You can make it part of your life, but you can push your life depending on it. Not at all!

Suggestions are all welcome!
My parents send me to college to get a bright future and stable income in the future. My parents told me as long you are strong and have time make a lot of the source of money. I do not grow up with the golden spoon in my mouth. So my choice it both regular job and half-time job in crypto. The only key does it at once is the time management and self-discipline and hard work. All successful person invests there invest in other they don’t stop to have a lot of source of income. They want earning money while they are sleeping.
126  Economy / Economics / Re: Investment in Bitcoin vs Investment in Education? on: May 30, 2018, 03:16:44 PM
All of us are wants to have a better life in future! Did you remembered when you are in school you always thought that you need to study hard to get a nice job in order to help your family and for you also to establish your own family. But at this generation you noticed that even though you are working with full time job it is not enough to make better way living. That's why you would try to look in another opportunities that helps you to earn more money for family.

Do you think Investment in education is better or Investment in cryptocurrency especially in bitcoin is much better?

Base of this articles which is better investment in future for you?

Share your thoughts about this.


Bitcoin is viewed from an investment perspective, it is more often compared to gold than it is to other currencies. That is because bitcoin and gold have a lot in common as assets. Both are limited in supply, have functional use and are considered by many, despite their volatility, to be good stores of value. When gold and bitcoin were compared as investments over the last five years, bitcoin greatly outperformed the precious metal, generating an annualized return of 155 percent compared to gold’s annualized loss of 6 percent during the same period. These exuberant returns indicate that bitcoin is getting investors excited about the prospect of placing funds into a brand new asset class.

Bitcoin’s soaring value and its proven investor performance compared to the gold standard, are indicators that it is high time to weigh the opportunities and risks that come with investing in the world’s leading digital currency.

Opportunities:

Many argue that bitcoin, like other currencies, has value only because people perceive it to have value. It is for this reason that many critics view bitcoin’s price development as nothing more than a bubble. However, there are drivers behind bitcoin’s excellent returns that have nothing to do with hype or speculative opportunism.

Clickk Here to view source link https://www.google.com.ph/amp/s/www.nasdaq.com/article/bitcoin-as-an-investment-opportunities-and-risks-cm740800/amp?espv=1


Why an Education is the Best Investment you can Make

Whether you consider your education a right, a privilege or something you “just need to do” as part of life, you should always consider it an investment. If you think of your future professional life as a business, your education is an integral part in the overall structure and quality of that business.

And it doesn’t matter if you end up working for yourself or someone else, the education element is an investment that provides the tools necessary for you to move forward and become successful. Every expert, leader and big shot in every industry started by learning the basic skills they needed to get the ball rolling, and the same will be true for you.

The Time of Your Life  

Besides having a great time with new experiences, connections are the first reason your education is a worthwhile investment. Quite often, college years are networking disguised as fun. It may not seem like you’re making professional connections for the future, but it’s not uncommon to reconnect with the people you shared this experience with later on, especially in the age of social networks.

Decision-Making Leverage

Smart decisions are crucial for a business to excel, and getting a good education puts you in a position to make the right professional decisions at the right time. Being educated in your field gives you a sense of accomplishment and confidence, which enable you to make decisions with confidence moving forward.

Career Boost

It goes without saying that an education is a great investment if you plan to work in a career for someone else. Depending on your career choice, a formal education might be a must-have to even get into the field. But even if it isn’t, taking that extra step will get you started higher up the ladder and will help you move up at a faster pace.

Future Security

Security is a word you see come up regularly when speaking about education and employment. Whether you want to go out on your own or work for someone else, that education will be there to break your fall if something goes wrong or doesn’t work out.

If you lose your job or your entrepreneurial attempt falls flat, an education means you get a second chance and it won’t take nearly as long to make it happen. If you think of your career and your financial life like a business, it’s easy to see why an education is the best investment you can make in yourself.


Click here to view source link  http://www.cestarcollege.com/blog/news-and-events/why-an-education-is-the-best-investment-you-can-make/

Thank you!  

I have idea things that don’t teach in the education. How to think the proper time to sell. How to negotiate with others entrepreneur. How to manage will the time. How to invest your money. How to be a right partner in the business. All of this teaching by investing in the bitcoin or altcoin. This not important at all, in the end, we should live happily with a decent source of income.
127  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin have more risks than benefits? on: May 30, 2018, 02:14:39 PM
Bank of Spain, in Madrid, says that the bank of cryptocurrencies, bitcoin, it's not worth it, and there are more risks than benefits. There are more innovations and they are having more effect.

Notices: https://traders.fxstockbroker.com/article/use-of-crypto-currencies-has-more-risks-than-benefits-bank-of-spain-head
             https://www.compuserve.com/news/world/story/0002/20180523/KCN1IO0YB_1

What is your opinion?

No pain no gain. I mean No risk, No income this the motto suitable to us. Everyone knows it that bitcoin is risky but worth it regarding on the investment and other. Do you think this is a legitimate says of the bank of Spain? Legitimate or not. Let’s ignore this statement because if we trust it and focus on it. It will cause bloody market. Banks really hate crypto because they can be out of place. If the crypto continues to grow the population in investing. Remember this only marketing strategy of the banks.
128  Economy / Economics / Re: Beliefs about money and wealth on: May 30, 2018, 01:32:43 PM
Everyones hasn diferent beliefs about money and wealth. See for example 35 different ways of thinking about it here:
https://daringtolivefully.com/powerful-beliefs-about-money

One famous author, not my favourite, yet an influential one is Robert Kyosaki. In his book "Rich Dad, Poor Dad", he examines two different beliefs and states that those believes will shape your success.

What of these do you agree with? What other beliefs do you have about money?

1 - Millionaires are greedy, that is why they become millionaires.
2 - Company managers just want to use the workers to make themselves rich and others poor.
3 - Having money is a question of luck, if not of "gods grace".
4 - Debt is always bad.
5 - To make money, you just need to have a great idea nobody thought off.
6 - Cryptos are the way to make money and be successful without having to put effort into it.
7 - To become rich I just have to believe in Bitcoin because many people have become rich doing that.
8 - To become rich I just have to be more clever and streetwise than everyone around to get my share of the cake.

Your turn to think ...

(EDIT: These are NOT my beliefs, at least not necessarily, is just a list to think. Is not the list by Robert K. either.)
I love this saying by Felix Dennis You will never get rich by working for your boss. I love this because of this a true and this my motivation. In the crypto, you are the boss you the one have control your time. Crypto is the platform that helps you to hit you’re dreaming. More Riskier and error in trading make me healthy and motivate me to don’t stop to believe and faith. Make your life what you want to become.
129  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin SCAM! on: May 30, 2018, 10:45:02 AM
I was invited by a friend of a friend to invest in Bitcoin last year. He told me that if I invest 5000 in our currency it will be doubled in a month's time. He also promised me that I will get referral fees and override from every person I introduced to Bitcoin and that prices of Bitcoin are expected to increase. To make the story short I did not join because I believe its a pyramiding scam. Truth to be told I did my research on Bitcoin after that and it turn's out that Bitcoin's price was really on rise unfortunately I did not invest at that time. Currently I'm learning more thru this forum and I thank my friend for inviting me here. Just last December I heard from one of my friends that the company they joined was in fact a pyramiding scam and the money they invested in just vanished out of thin air together with the people who invited them. We should be wary of people offering investments and opportunities to us. Do your research. Opportunity comes with risks as well as the rewards. If its too good to be true, it might be a scam. Bitcoin is not a SCAM but there are people who uses Bitcoin to SCAM other people. Good luck to us and more power to Bitcoin!
In your story. You are wise because entering investment in bitcoin. Don’t need to referral fees from every person invite! If this the marketing strategy of someone offers you for sure this is a pyramiding scam. Yes, you are correct people use the only bitcoin to scam other people. So, tell your friends and mostly your related family to care. If you want sure investment, in bitcoin research how you will convert the real money to bitcoin. Don’t rely on other people do your own risk.
130  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I just lost my entire wallet of 13 BTC. on: May 30, 2018, 07:59:14 AM
Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.

NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.

Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.

At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.

Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.

Here is the transaction.


Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6

Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o

Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet.
I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
@TheShillBilly Twitter

I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them
Please return them! Please Please Please!  RT to help...

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb
H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.

If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
Another person lost a massive amount of bitcoin. This our main problem having bitcoin it might lose it or hack, stole our accounts. This the weakness of blockchain technology and of course the person. It’s too hard to recover this. This might be a lesson to all the holder and investor of all crypto to be always careful. I think your account stole of the phasing site.   
131  Economy / Economics / Re: The HODL strategy is not actual on: May 30, 2018, 06:47:24 AM
This morning I saw an article where a guy made a simple calculation through Google trends about HODL strategy, and it showed that call to HODL used less and less from February of 2018. Popularity of word Bitcoin and crypto currency is also falling down.
Why it is so? Do not people believe in Bitcoin and it's bright future anymore?
No matter on such tend I am going to HODL my founds till bitcoin will not come back to 20k$ Grin
People don’t believe in bitcoin and its bright future because they judge it fist they thought bitcoin is online scam activities or they heard the fake news about the harmful effect of the bitcoin. I agree with you that hold is the best strategy if the market is bloody. But Everyone has the freedom to choose a plan on trading. I do this if the value drops and I need fiat. I have no choices I will ask my family or friend to debit some fiat, and I will pay them once the value increase.
132  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why people are still buying Bitcoin? on: May 29, 2018, 03:24:46 PM
If people buy Bitcoin at $8,000, they will get 100% profit only when Bitcoin reaches $16,000. If it takes 5 years to reach $16,000, people will earn more money from Gold and Silver than from Bitcoin. Silver is giving 20% to 35% profit in one year.

Mining cost of one Bitcoin is $5,000 or more. When Bitcoin was $400 or $800 it was understandable because people had to just spend $400 or $800 to get one Bitcoin and $1,200 is super high profits when Bitcoin started from $1.
Are you sure the value of the bitcoin reach $16,000 takes five years? Bitcoin value is not predictable. If you think earning in bitcoin is faster than gold and silver, why I don’t hear a news people getting rich on investing or holder of gold and silver. Some people keep on buying bitcoin because we know the potential and the capability of having the bitcoin. Can you use the gold or silver as a form of payment on this generation?
133  Economy / Economics / Re: China tells people to buy gold & silver on: May 29, 2018, 11:21:52 AM
Some major events as seen by China.

More....

It turns out that there is also “advertising” for gold and silver in China, too. The big difference here is that it is China's government which is advertising the “opportunities” in gold and silver and it is urging the Chinese people to buy gold and silver.

An article from mining web-site, Mineweb quotes a program which appears on China's largest (state-owned) television company, promoting bullion-buying in general, but stressing that silver is currently the best value for investors (no surprise to regular readers):

https://seekingalpha.com/article

Chinese government told/encourages its citizens to buy gold and silver in 2012.

Do think this excellent idea of the government of China? For this bad idea. The government of China publishes this kind of article because they want to get the attraction of the people to buy gold and silver more than to purchase crypto. China also wants to increase their economy. They don’t care about the harmful impact of mining on the environment. There are a lot of chemicals from the mining process.  When the people buy the gold and silver, they have income on it, but our mother nature will suffer.
134  Economy / Economics / Re: With Hackers everywhere, How safe is Cryptocurrency? on: May 29, 2018, 07:58:56 AM
Its no longer news that an ICO in Japan has lost over $400 million to hackers. They promised to pay back investors who invested in their ICO. Thsi is a huge loss. After I read that news, I began to wonder. How safe is Bitcoin and Other altcoins? What measures should we take to avoid being hacked ?
We don’t know when and which wallet or site they will hack. Crypto is safe, but we don’t know if the developer of wallets or even exchange do they best to protect their company from the hacker. If you have cared for your wallets and accounts and if you choose wallet to make sure this wallets or exchange provide strong security. We can only do to protect our accounts from the hacker is to split our coins into different wallets.
135  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Media is negative about Bitcoin? on: May 28, 2018, 04:02:04 PM
Why Media is negative about Bitcoin?
Whenever a government announces to regulate bitcoin or cryptocurrency or whenever BTC price is in downfall, most of the media start to warn everyone not purchase or invest in Bitcoins.
Do you see that, dont you?
Why do you believe in media and social media you think it will good to you and us? Government announces to regulate cryptocurrency, but media should wait that regulation is approving. They only want to manipulate the value of crypto and says to the people don’t believe on the bitcoin last is make the shareholder or investors afraid that bitcoin will nonsense in the future. Media has biases report they always agree to the government to get a good attraction.
136  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin failed as a currency on: May 28, 2018, 06:23:19 AM
Bitcoin was supposed to be used as a currency, not only a form of investment. However, it's been more successful as a form of investment, a "speculative asset".

Do you guys think that this can change in the long term ?

What are you saying bitcoin failed as a currency? Base on knowledge bitcoin creates as digital currency, not a currency. There is a significant difference between currency and digital currency. If you say digital currency, it means required an internet connection. If you tell currency, it involves physical such as paper money or physical coins. Yes, there is more shareholder of bitcoin use as form of investment because of the volatility and the potential of value increase by years go by.
137  Economy / Services / Re: MB8Coin Signature & Avatar Campaign(FULL) on: May 27, 2018, 02:25:22 PM
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138  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can somebody steal your btc? on: May 25, 2018, 02:13:27 PM
Hi, have you ever thought this?

You know that, to import a wallet you need the private key or your seed. Taking as example the private key (the 52 letters key). It could exist the possibility someone create a software whose function was to try thousands of times to find the private key till it is be done.This would be like the process to find the new block in mining, anyway you can try the times you want in order to find it.

I think this could be a weakness, correct me if I am wrong. Smiley

Or comment if you have a kind of solution for this...

Regards!

Yes of course. Somebody can steal the bitcoin in our wallets. All things in this world can steal mostly your loved ones. The knowledge is the one that can’t steal anyone. Be careful to all your account mostly the email. Email because this is one of their target of the hacker. If your email hack there are chance all your account also hack. If possible, change your private key every months and write it so that you can’t forget when you change it.
139  Economy / Speculation / Re: Perfect Time to Buy! on: May 25, 2018, 11:06:53 AM
With all the good news coming out in favor of bitcoin like Expedia accepting bitcoin etc it's time to buy with the price going down. You will not be so lucky next week. I strongly believe it's going to reach $700 by end of next week!
You are too late; you know why because yesterday the value of all coins in are a drop, but now all currencies turn into green increasing small percent. I will teach you the strategy to buy and sell use the chart indicator tools to guide you when you buy and sell. Before you buy any kind crypto coins, you should study and research it to ensure that coins are not shit coins. If you have the coins, wait the market is green.
140  Economy / Speculation / Re: Expected predictions on: May 25, 2018, 07:53:57 AM
I will wait for that time to arrive, because I believe the bitcoin price by the end of 2018 will soar.
I will keep the spirit to collect coins for my future.
although this month, bitcoin prices are worse than December of 2017, but I still believe it.
Can not be denied, the growth of Bitcoin value in 2017 is arguably fantastic. However, this criticism of cryptocurrency is analogous to a 'bubble' (because it continues to fly high but can 'erupt' anytime)

The year 2017 seems to be the period of proof for Bitcoin as the most calculated cryptocurrency. One climax occurs when the digital currency recorded a record high with the value (USD 19,796) on December 17 last.
Experts also predict that with these achievements, Bitcoin has the potential to record a much higher value next year.
"Bitcoin can reach (USD 60,000) by December 2018," said Mike Dumont, Senior Editor of Bitcoin.com
My whole life I never expect. Not everything will go as you expect in the crypto. We need to drop expectation and go with the movement of the markets value.  I don’t expect because this expecting the value of the bitcoin is too hard. In the end, you will shack if you expect too much you will be stress or disappoint if the cost drops. Things become difficult when you expect too much
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