Any lawyer will tell you that doesn't hold up in court, because it usually doesnt.

Actually, i believe that this is frowned upon by theymos. i don't have a source on that but i recall a discussion on the matter from days long gone by.

An unrelated matter entirely. it is very difficult to discuss a personal matter such as the one regarding my purported "attempt at buying trust" without becoming emotional. The issue we are discussing here is forum corruption and inconsistency of policies. I made two statements in this thread. perhaps you should read these statements and analyze them for facts/opinions before resorting to a personal attack, which is a sure sign of a lack of an intelligent argument.

There is no whinging and whining going on. A simple statement of the facts, which you and others like you refuse to hear or give fair consideration.

I do agree with everything you just said here. Perhaps the next step would be building a decentralized escrow system into the forum. (one can dream, and it will probably never happen for many reasons, some obvious and some not)

Isn't it funny how the biggest defenders of the default trust are those setting atop it? these people are not bitcoin supporters. a supporter of bitcoin would encourage decentralized consensus proof of trust algorithm. maybe they don't understand that bitcoin is decentralized proof of trust in and of itsself, but on the same token, perhaps they are corrupted morally and feel the need to protect their bottom line, by keeping a monopoly on the trust system, and their corruption has overriden their logical thinking algorithm. food for thought :-)

there was no negative trust prior to this incident.

Is this legitimate? Normally i would be all against this, but based on how judgemental this community is and with all of the scammers to blame, i approve. Until crypto has regulation i cannot fully support it. 

How else do buyers protect themselves in a transaction? i have no chargebacks on my account, i would like to keep it that way. sending first with paypal, i may not receive my btc. then i would have to do a chargeback with paypal. no thanks.

I looked before i leapt with that post. Hence my admission of a mistake. I am not talking about stunna. he is a respected user and is no doubt on the up and up.

      You weren't going to remove it either way. I had already apologized to you and you ignored that post, so it goes without saying that that apology is now rescinded.

      Continuing,  you cannot possibly know i would have done another trade again. That reminds me of that movie with Tom Cruise where they charged people with crimes they would commit in the future, but i will digress and defer on that matter, to the more pressing issue:

If this is scammy behaviour, why are Signature Campaign reps not considered scammy?

       Ive saw plenty of rep loans btw, look at default trust. half the members on the list have questionable feedback. Look at TF, Blazr, and Vod. Far from model citizens. Remember their account farming operation? how about when Blazr got caught and paid his way out of it? enlisting Vod and others to leave negative feedback on the posters who busted them out? there was never any recourse for either of them on the matter.

No punishment for the protected, tsk tsk. Reminds me of corporate america.

To me, it seems we have a system here designed to protect the interest of a select few, and leave the common user on the outside looking in. We need a clearer guidelines and more accountability for all, not just the select few. there needs to be a counterbalance. like the ability for an admin to leave a note on trust ratings.

I will buy $5 usd worth of bitcoin from you with paypal. must place the bitcoin in escrow before i send you from paypal.

those trades? it was a singular, one time trade, i'm not here to trade cock sucker. you already knew that, and if you didn't well, you're the one calling me out atleast get it right. i was here to get some bitcoin through the trade, and get a positive trust rating. then i planned to offer my services, using the trust rating to help me attract potential clients. here to try and tap the bitcoin economy for extra work. that way if fiat collapses, i already will have inroads here.

Umm, ok? if you have a point make it. Seems like you're the one whining about the truth. I never tried to buy trust. i said i thought about it, then i stipulated in my post requesting a trade that we would exchange feedback. that is not the saming thing as "buying trust", you all are trying to find deeper meaning in something as shallow Mozart's grave.

wow, that was heart warming jambola. I was seriously moved. I almost felt a tear forming in my tear ducts.

I remember a discussion arising about it last july when i joined up here. I think one poster had requested a revision to the trust system. I'm pretty sure theymos shot it down, but can't remember. there's a thread where its discussed somewhere.

I already did admit it was a mistake(only in the court of public opinion, morally there is no problem, but i see that paypal trades are sketchy anyway, so overall it was a mistake). I still must inform you, I don't feel like it was the big deal its being made out to be(because it isn't, you've probably just all synchronized your menstrual cycles. it happens when a bunch of bitches cohabit the same space, even on forums apparently). The sole objective wasn't just to gain trust. a killing two birds with one stone kind of thing. Gain some trust , get some bitcoin to deposit at cryptsy, none of which really matters. its my own damn business.

The annoying truth here is that you all overreacted to something very minor, and now you are putting the full court press on me to admit and walk away, and i won't do it. A simple "hey that's against the rules! cease and decist immediately!" would have sufficed, but no we needed the back biting, preconceived notion about me and my intentions, modus operandi injectus ( i made that up)  and confrontation. OTR, the pompous assery is what makes bitcoin a sideshow oddity unappealing to the masses. look how people are treated as a newbie here, whether the individual is good or bad at heart. Go ahead and give me a negative feedback if you feel that strongly that i'm a bad person and have broken the sacred laws of bitcoin talk forum. At the end of the day, you will still be full of shit, and even more so high on your own farts. I may lose the ability of selling my services for bitcoin, but with the treatment received here, good riddance. I am doing just fine in the fiat world, and i will gladly return to it and continue to do my business solely in fiat. Maybe you should learn to solve problems without jumping to conclusions and we'd all be better off.

I did nothing wrong and I maintain that. I do not agree that is abusing the system. Taking a short cut and trying to gain a competitive advantage yes, but abuse no. Abuse would be fraudulent trust. If you think about it, all trust on this board is bought, some of it cheaper than others. Do you contest this logic?

There you go inserting your agenda, which is clearly to get me to admit that i'm wrong somehow, when i'm not. notice you casually try to twist my thread titled "how to get a green trust on my profile" and twisted it into some evil maniacal scheme by me to defraud the trust system. Like i told you, push that logic on someone dumb enough to accept it.

To reiterate: I apologized for not heeding the warning from KWH( and anyothers as well, that should be a given). I felt like his opinion was probably a minority of the general consensus here, and decided to take my chances. I am also apologizing for calling cooldgamer and devthedev names. It was uncalled for i get that, my execuse: i was mad, and quite justifiably so. When you've done nothing wrong and you're the subject of a witch hunt like this and you can take it like a champ, well then you are a better man than me, and i would salute for you that. This is as much as i'm going to concede to you or anyone hilariousandco. i seriously wish you would drop it.

He was just letting his agenda come exploding out of his flamboyant asshole. in other words, he was "talking out of his ass"