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121  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Minexcoin - A new era of payments (ICO closed!) on: September 14, 2017, 11:18:13 AM
Is there a place where I can sell my minex? I mean an otc trading chat or something?
There's a telegram channel call "Minex Exchange". In there you can see the current price for now, but it is not official price. Better wait to official announcement because it's only 2 weeks from now. But if dev give a delay announcement you must have wait longer

There is no official price ever always a market centric price. At the moment MNX has the price at which one wants to buy it or the latest traded price. MNX was priced 0.001 in 1st ICO and 0.0023 in 2nd ICO by MineCore developers.
122  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [HACKEN] FIRST DECENTRALIZED MARKETPLACE FOR WHITE HAT HACKERS on: September 13, 2017, 05:34:28 PM
Being a hacker means a lot of opportunities for a person —
Access to secured data, respect, money, and reputation. The only thing which is forgotten is the threat of violating the law and regulations, or in simple words, responsibility for committed actions. It could take different forms – fines, restrictions or even imprisonment. Do you still feel like a person who is just suitable for hacking something? What if I tell that there are two types of hackers?

http://www.newsbtc.com/2017/09/12/good-hackers-can-work/
There are two types of people. First are Hackers some times called white hackers who find vulnerabilities in the system but never use the system for illegal use. Seconds are Cracker some times called black hackers who find vulnerabilities in the system and use to profit themselves. Sometimes lines are very thin to differentiate one from the other especially if state, defence or governments involved.
123  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: September 13, 2017, 03:32:10 PM
DeepOnion moderators banned so called wake-up account. Their conclusion is that every wakeup account is a bought account. There can be only one proof if a person may give is if he previously staked his BTC address in one of bitcointalk.org thread. Then by signing other message with the same address he/she can prove ownership of that account.

Now check the account of one of DeepOnion moderator at BitcoinTalk and Deeponion.org: Xsinx. Profile Link: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=717573)

This account was registered on January 7, 2016. First post was on January 7, 2016 itself. Active in auctioning of bitcointalk.org member Account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1358865.msg13839415#msg13839415). This account was active till February 29, 2016 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1277685.msg14045056#msg14045056) and then sleep. Sleep for a whole year. Wakeup on January 4, 2017 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1253729.msg17395545#msg17395545).

Surprisingly, Xsinx never stake his/her any BTC address previously on bitcointalk.org thread. So he/she cannot prove ownership which is obligatory for wake-up accounts.

Conclusion: It is a wakeup account and because there is no proof of staking. A Bought Account.

Why they develop their own forum deeponion.org?
Because there are chances that their bitcointalk thread can be deleted by moderators any time due to various scam and cheating accusations.

PS: Interestingly Xsinx and crypto-rainbow both were active in gambling threads.

The airdrop rules say that accounts registered after July 12, 2017 are not qualified. Only the wakeup accounts which woke up after July 12, 2017 are not qualified aswell I guess.

My account was wakeup on June 28, 2017 after 3.5 years of registration. If you think you understand deeponion developers' scheme then nobody at fault. They only need a reason (even if illogical like faulty signature as ref=xxxxx type) to ban external accounts those don't belong to their team. So they can airdropped more to their own accounts.
124  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: September 13, 2017, 05:22:25 AM
DeepOnion moderators banned so called wake-up account. Their conclusion is that every wakeup account is a bought account. There can be only one proof if a person may give is if he previously staked his BTC address in one of bitcointalk.org thread. Then by signing other message with the same address he/she can prove ownership of that account.

Now check the account of one of DeepOnion moderator at BitcoinTalk and Deeponion.org: Xsinx. Profile Link: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=717573)

This account was registered on January 7, 2016. First post was on January 7, 2016 itself. Active in auctioning of bitcointalk.org member Account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1358865.msg13839415#msg13839415). This account was active till February 29, 2016 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1277685.msg14045056#msg14045056) and then sleep. Sleep for a whole year. Wakeup on January 4, 2017 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1253729.msg17395545#msg17395545).

Surprisingly, Xsinx never stake his/her any BTC address previously on bitcointalk.org thread. So he/she cannot prove ownership which is obligatory for wake-up accounts.

Conclusion: It is a wakeup account and because there is no proof of staking. A Bought Account.

Why they develop their own forum deeponion.org?
Because there are chances that their bitcointalk thread can be deleted by moderators any time due to various scam and cheating accusations.

PS: Interestingly Xsinx and crypto-rainbow both were active in gambling threads.
125  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Minexcoin - A new era of payments (ICO closed!) on: September 12, 2017, 12:30:58 PM

Hello!

Please, pay attention. It is not our coin listed on Cryptopia.

We are Minexcoin(MNX) and you will be able to see the MNX on exchange in the near future( in 3 weeks).

Why doesn't MineCore team apply MNX for waves dex as there are already BTC and ETH? Or it is upon waves' team to decide. It will be good for all, MNX, team and community. What's your take?

they have their own reasoning for that,
and i believe the investor themself requesting this.
a lot of bounty hunter wanted to dump their belonging,so in order to get the price what they want ,
the investor asking them to hold it and delaying the listing,
that is why we never get listed to any exchanger so far.
and if you are a true believer,just keep support this coin and you will get what you deserve.
this bounty hunter keep trashing and talking about exchanger and else while they did not invest at all.


First, the problem is bounty hunters in some cases got too much coins with respect to their contribution to the project. I know about an address which have 371 coins won at bounty or compaign. Either all the 100+ awardee do some cheating or project team have done some poor planing, I can't say for sure because I was late entrant.

Second, there are many miner who are collecting MNX by mining. You cannot stop them to sell. Every coin has to survive the market. It is not a one time occurrence. It is a continuous process.

This (avoid bounty hunters' dumping) is the most irritating logic for not listing coin in exchange. Whenever ever you list, even after 1 year, bounty hunters dump their coins for sure at first, whether investors want or not. If project has its basics strong it will survive back.
126  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Best airdrop you ever got (or didnt get) on: September 12, 2017, 10:39:15 AM
For DeepOnion airdrops I want to add this link to be read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2057229.0
Just read whole thread and decide yourself what it is. In my opinion DeepOnion developers are doing cheating with community.
127  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] HOWL | Mobile Social Application | No ICO | AIRDROP on: September 12, 2017, 07:57:57 AM
I have sent the e-mail to howl.app.official@gmail.com on 9 September but no reply yet. Is there an official list to check the accepted/rejected accounts?
128  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Minexcoin - A new era of payments (ICO closed!) on: September 12, 2017, 07:52:53 AM

Hello!

Please, pay attention. It is not our coin listed on Cryptopia.

We are Minexcoin(MNX) and you will be able to see the MNX on exchange in the near future( in 3 weeks).

Why doesn't MineCore team apply MNX for waves dex as there are already BTC and ETH? Or it is upon waves' team to decide. It will be good for all, MNX, team and community. What's your take?
129  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Minexcoin - A new era of payments (ICO closed!) on: September 12, 2017, 07:47:40 AM

Thank you for this news. It will clear the confusion in future. Isn't there any solution to get the ticker or project name unique.
130  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [HACKEN] FIRST DECENTRALIZED MARKETPLACE FOR WHITE HAT HACKERS on: September 12, 2017, 07:45:55 AM
Dear supporters and friends!

You all know that Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC)  issued report that said that blockchain tokens could be determined as securities under U.S. law.

One of the methods to clear it up -  Howey Test.

For those who aren't familiar, the Howey Test dates back to a 1946 Supreme Court ruling that established the basis for determining whether or not anything sold in the US, or to US investors, is a security.

The Howey Test is useful because it helps crystalize some of the most important aspects of federal securities laws into a relatively simple formula.

And we have good news -

our token is UNLIKELY to be security acording to Howey Test!


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2QiFeYJAINBRFIxY3Q1aC1ia0k/view?usp=sharing

Yes, no crypto coin or token is security or bond. Either these all are commodity or currency. It depends upon the interpretation of particular project (coin or token) in respective countries. Like, Bitcoin may be currency in one country and/or commodity in other country.
131  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: September 12, 2017, 06:26:55 AM
It goes beyond some of us having a problem with the "airdrop".

Problem ?

There SHOULD be !
And shouldn't it be rather obvious ?

I just can't fucking believe crypto ...all of it
Changed into a scene where you can launch a crook scheme with a gimmick and having it rigged is perfectly fine.

Boy things have changed  Roll Eyes

There was a time when a dev launched a coin with a very small premine percentage then had it all accounted for, and it was STILL was deemed "scammy".

Now ?
Holy mother of fucking god damn god !
You all ALLOW dev's (if you want to call them that) to simply premine *ALL* of the coins then keep vast insane amounts of them.. then you let them keep and even stake them via POS systems.
..such as this DeepOnion scam bullshit. ..or ETHEREUM ..or RIPPLE ..or

It just fucking shatters my god damn mind to pieces this is not even brought up here.
You want to bitch about the "Airdrop" and how it works etc ?
Uhhh read the god damn fucking TOPIC TITLE motherfuckers ?
For the love of fucking god.. how do you all skip over the part where the dev and friends print free money to stake ?

How ?

Tell me scammy ass greedy brats.. i want to know, seriously.
How do you IGNORE a blatant rigged scam ?

Never mind.. i know the answer.
It's your BTC dust your collecting with armies of NOOB accounts.
End of story.

/crypto is fucking dead.

Can't you put your arguments without abusing people?
132  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Any new airdrop coins? on: September 11, 2017, 05:14:58 PM
New List of legit Crypto Airdrops : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2164165.0;topicseen

No more deceptive referal schemes or spam.

Cheers.


I wrote a post there against DeepOnion and surprisingly he deleted that post. In my opinion above given thread "List of legit Crypto Airdorps" is made to legalize deeponion in eyes of shills and coming investors. He should at least change his signatures.  Wink

Bad try.
133  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: September 11, 2017, 03:36:49 PM
In a nutshell this is what developers intent to the community.



They offered a signature campaign in the name of free airdrops and use their Draconion (deliberately misspell) laws to banned external accounts.
134  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [HACKEN] FIRST DECENTRALIZED MARKETPLACE FOR WHITE HAT HACKERS on: September 11, 2017, 03:28:35 PM
A project is backed by russian and ukrainian teams and without involvement of any major cyber security company. Are you kidding me???
We don't need major cyber security companies - we are building world marketplace for white hat hackers.


To start a school one must not be a phd in education. This project is in initial stage but in future there should be more cyber security personnal in the team I expect.
135  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Minexcoin - A new era of payments (ICO closed!) on: September 11, 2017, 03:06:15 PM
Members need MNX coin on exchange. Can you ( Dev) tell us the expected time?
Thanks!

Hello!

It's for your own good, actually.
We are interested in an early listing on the exchange, but there were circumstances that prevented us from listing the exchange on time.
Our goal is creating stable, secure, and reliable coin. Our team can not allow apply to stock market before being sure that MinexCoin will meet all our high internal requirements and your high expectations.
More info here, please:
https://blog.minecoin.org/minexcoin-status-update-and-news-1344d4c24dee

Ok. So please there are many problem in minexbank, those have to be redressed properly.

1. If we copy amount from available balance by double clicking. It also select proceeding space which gives an error when we copy-paste that and try to park. Either give a button to copy the amount after the balance amount or work on the validation rule for park amount when we click park button.
2. QR code system is broken in minexbank. If we use recovery or authentication key to google authenticator it works but if we use QR code scanner in google authenticator it does not works.
3. There are many complaint about wallet balance is not synced with minexbank.
4. At the current moment we have to generate userid (MNX address) and password for each address by signing. I think there should be a userId and password to log on. And then we should have the options to park and cancel for different addresses by signing. By this we don't have to use different password, 2FA for each address. This will be unnecessary load on minexbank servers. Or code it in MinexCoin Client to park and cancel. I know it is more difficult if not impossible. You have to change all your coding.
5. There should be an e-mail verification for parking and cancellation apart from 2FA.
6. If a parking canceled without confirmation of the user by internal error or by hacking attempt who will be responsible for it. Because MinexBank will be clearly profiting from it. It does not have to pay interest. It should be trustless environment.

Point 1, 2 and 6 and work around (1 and 2) are raised by me months ago but there is no modification in the code of website yet.

Regards,

Lalit
136  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] PAYPIE - World's First Blockchain Accounting Platform on: September 11, 2017, 09:17:40 AM
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137  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: September 10, 2017, 04:56:01 PM
Ill rather take the risk and offer my time promoting something that has potential, a community, active dev, working product than investing in an ICO's. How much money has people lost in ICO's this year? Coindash, DAO to name a few. Yes millions has been lost and that's only a few. White paper , road map nice website and give us cash to start the project.

Here non of the members invested a cent but yet we have a growing community and something actually plausible can come from it.

Why all the effort to scam? We have a block explorer, website, slack. Payout reports generated for every air drop, we only in week 3 and you guys are crying fowl.

Vote central is going live soon where members will have the opportunity to vote in what they believe which direction the project should take. Please show me another startup with such enthusiasm and growth in just three weeks.

LOL, scam, pass..

what . You are a new user, registered from 6/9.

So what kid? You join in July 30, 2017. Does it mean you are nothing against me? Stop kidding here please!
138  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [HACKEN] FIRST DECENTRALIZED MARKETPLACE FOR WHITE HAT HACKERS on: September 10, 2017, 04:37:59 PM
I could not understand the reason of this project. What is decentralize in it, Hackers or HKN token. What is the need of decentralized in this field? And How will HKN token and decentralization is helpful because of this project. Please elaborate.

If you need Hindi translation and moderation. I can help.

The big idea behind Hacken is that it turns each owner of Hackens into a community member. Because Hacken is a specialized software utility token, being primarily focused on cybersecurity professionals and projects, it will also bring these people together by providing incentives for doing business with one another and for investment in cybersecurity startups. These people will need to communicate and interact with each other in order to make use of their Hackens. The more vibrant the community is, the more value it delivers to each member.

Hacken (HKN) is an ERC20 token, which is the only payment tool allowed in the Hacken Ecosystem. Buying Hackens today, will allow one to receive high quality cybersecurity services in the future, at an attractive price.


Yes, Hindi language is welcome.

Please send us the overview of your previous translation experience. Use this email address for that - kissngerbounty@gmail.com

So, May I say that Hacken is a token to buy-sell cybersecurity services. But how Hacken Ecosystem help security professional and consumer linked with each other? What type of services or products can be distributed through blockchain technology and not by traditional markets.

Yes, you are right!Simply to say -Hacken is a token to buy-sell cybersecurity services.
Here is how Hacken Ecosystem help security professional and consumer linked with each other and about use of blockchain:

We are building platform, that is providing Cebersecurity services, and when clients of our platform sign the bug bounty program agreement, our team creates a relevant blockchain block containing data about the product, the terms of service agreement and a timestamp.
The next block of the chain, which is specific to this client, will contain information on vulnerabilities, discovered during our security research.
Also we will build Cybersecurity Analytics Center, with such areas of research: Blockchain security, vulnerabilities and countermeasures.
All services are charged ONLY in Hackens.



Ok, now the picture is somewhat clearer. Clients will use the Hacken platform and submit their product information and use Hacken Token for payment. I assume that only data related to product is shared on blockchain not the product release and source files itself. Now, if a white hacker find bugs or vulnerabilities where he/she will share this information, on the blockchain or to some centralized servers? Who will authenticate that found bugs etc are relevant and hacker has to be paid for this? And what if other hacker found more bugs in the same product? Will he/she paid again for this?
Thank you for your question - her is answer for it:
Your question consists of a number of separate questions of their own. We answer them in the order in which they are mentioned in your post:
‘I assume that only data related to product is shared on blockchain not the product release and source files itself’
This assumption is correct. We only use blockchain to issue HackenProof Vulnerabilities and Countermeasures Certificate and to prove authenticity of its contents ( number of vulnerabilities was fixed, client reaction) and timestamps. We store no customer sensitive information in the blockchain.
Now, if a white hacker finds bugs or vulnerabilities, where he/she will share this information, on the blockchain or to some centralized servers?
The researcher will share this information to our web portal HackenProof platform via bug bounty participant panel.
Who will authenticate that found bugs etc are relevant and hacker has to be paid for this?
The technical team of the client will investigate the vulnerabilities and determine whether they are relevant. The terms and rules of the bug bounty program will be stipulated by the document called policy.
Policy will contain all the information covering the depth and scope of the work to be performed by the researchers. It will explain to researchers what the customer needs.
We will also use policy as a proof of the customer’s intentions in an unlikely event of conflict between the client and the researcher regarding the relevance of the vulnerability that was discovered. If the client disagrees with our understanding of the policy, the incident will be submitted to the Public Board of Trustees of Hacken Ecosystem for further mediation.
And what if other hacker found more bugs in the same product? Will he/she paid again for this?
We are not sure we understand this question. The bug bounty program can have as many participants as the clients decides. They will be all submitting bug reports, which will be sorted chronologically and grouped by the issues covered.
The purpose of the bug bounty program is to discover as many bugs as possible within the scope determined by the client. Each participant of the bug bounty program gets paid proportionally to the number of bugs discovered, reported and accepted by the client.



Thanks for your detail answer. What is more important is you take every question and answer it. I want to clarify my last question:

Let say a client hire Hacken platform to check its product vulnerability. Client paid bug bounty to Hacken platform to be release to successful candidate. Hacken platform propagate information regarding this project on blockchain. Now assume there are 10 bugs (I know that no body knows about exact number of bugs) with severity: 1 critical, 2 high, 3 low, 2 blocker and 2 trivial. One hacker found all but critical bug. He/she reports 9 bugs in the system. He/she gets paid. One hour later other hacker reports 6 bugs as 1 critical, 2 high and 3 low.

Will he be paid? Or he should not report as bug bounty is closed?

The question from @Maxicripto is also relevant. Why are we here? Just because of decentralize-trustless environment. Where law of code works not trust. In the Hacken platform we have to trust the negotiation servers and at the end humans. So first they have to be decentralize one way or another. But in my opinion it is technically impossible for a code to negotiate between real parties in the current scenario. So at least information should be encrypted and/or in a vault until client (if code is private) or client and public (if code is public) is satisfied. But my above question is still valid.

Regards,

Lalit
139  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: September 10, 2017, 04:07:27 PM
If deeponion developers and moderator are angels then why on earth they have to delete those posts which criticize them and made accusation on them? There are many project which have problems, accusations, failures but they don't delete the community posts. What I understand is if a ANN thread is self-moderated never ever visit it and never participate its compaign, airdrops etc.
140  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: September 09, 2017, 04:37:43 PM
I heard they didn't pay some people on their signature campaign I have a friend who joined on their signature campaign and he got accepted. On the first payment, he didn't received any. He contacted the manager of the campaign but it didn't say anything. So he just left the campaign.

That some is more than 1000+ accounts. Read the main DeepOnion ANN thread and community forum at deeponion.org. There are more people complaining after ban then the persons shill in main ANN thread.
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