SO, at the end have you decided to go with the cheaper option less powerful ? I hope so. Please remember that its a FPGA not an asic. So, please release it with at least a couple of bitstreams  yes my friend, cheaper and smaller is better, and cuter  it is a mighty little one, don't underestimate its power! we will have at least 2 bitstreams ready to be launched along with the hw platform, more to be supported in future, and 3rd party developed bitstream shall be supported as well. thanks for your continuous interest |
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When you have a working, verifiable product, please contact one of the Hero or Senior members here and let them do a review of the product. If they say it performs the way it’s advertised, you will be able to sell thousands of them.
Until that point, probably best if you refrain from posting any further.
valuable comment! thanks a lot. we will definitely send out samples for testing and review once available! |
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exiting progress
Freudian slip or what! lol my bad. corrected |
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Hi guys, we don't make or release bitstream files for other platforms. we are trying to build our own FPGA HW platform with mining bitstream. please see my other post for latest progress update. thanks https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4493669.0 |
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  I totally agree with you, people here should be more cautious (especially in the world of crypto) and watch what others do than what they say. you can't judge by its size, actually it is the design goal to make a small and portable miner. on the algo we have tested with, the hash performance is equal or better than a GPU at 20w power consumption. Instead of trying to be a smart ass why don't you simply give us an estimated hash rate or at least an estimated profitability-power ratio? IF, thats a big IF, this is actually a real hardware product, you are acting very unprofessionally and defensively. Real companies and teams do not have time to act all childish the way you are doing. If you think this is a good marketing strategy then you are severely mistaken. All you are doing is looking like one big SCAM.I am not sure what you mean by the childish act.. because all i did was to post some exciting progress that my team felt happy & proud about. you are right we have no marketing skills, because we are all hardworking engineers, cryto hobbits trying to work on a fun side project - a gpu equivalent fpga miner on a stick  . now that we expect the first batch prototype boards be ready in late june, and by early july we should be able to finish all testing and decide whether or not it is production ready. and we will release full spec and hashrate info in that time frame, so please be patient if you are interested, we are just not that ready yet. thanks. |
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Hi guys, some of you may know that I posted my original thread in March, since then we have NEVER stopped a single day working on this exiting project to bring you an affordable, portable, low power yet powerful fpga miner on a usb stick. -snip- Never stopped, NOT EVEN A SINGLE DAY, wooow really? Please tell me how you eat or poop while coding?  I've gone over your old thread and you seem to be linking a website back there. And your device looks like a simple Arduino board. How do you expect to compete with even a GPU with that? There are no technical specifications, no indications of algorithm or profit, nothing. So many red flags and I would highly advise everyone to be careful and better yet, stay away from this, at least until more details are revealed. I totally agree with you, people here should be more cautious (especially in the world of crypto) and watch what others do than what they say. you can't judge by its size, actually it is the design goal to make a small and portable miner. on the algo we have tested with, the hash performance is equal or better than a GPU at 20w power consumption. |
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Hi guys, ** Understand some people may think this is another scam, It Is NOT. Good news, Voskcoin and philipma1957 have accepted doing a review for us! sample boards have been sent them for verification. please wait for their review! ** Please anticipate our little survey for pre-order! thanks for your time https://s.surveyplanet.com/qgKGVspdDI am glad to announce that Agilmine A1 prototype boards have been assembled and tested fully functional in our lab! We have currently implemented FPGA bitstreams and cross-platform host application to support XDAG, Keccak, KeccakC, Pascal and Skein mining algorithms. In the future we plan to support Tribus and other algorithms based on demand. Some sample performance spec are listed below. Please be noted the numbers are not final, we are still in the process of optimizing the algorithm implementation. In addition they are measured at normal clock frequency and operating voltage. By methods of overclocking and increasing core voltage the hashing performance can bump up by least 10-20%. In the future we plan to support Tribus or other altcoin algorithms based on demand. XDAG - 500Mhs at 20W Keccak and KeccakC - 1Ghs at 25W Pascal - 500MH/s at 20W Key features: 1. GPU equivalent mining performance at 1/10 power consumption 2. Multiple algorithm support, active development, NO DEV fee 3. Small, Portable, Quite, Low heat and basement mining friendly 4. Single USB connection for both FPGA programming and mining communication 5. Flexible and low cost host selection - Win, Mac, Linux any OS would work as long as there is USB port. My host device is a $10 Raspberry Pi Zero. And you can connect as many miners as you want! Also, this would be a perfect platform for developers who want to work on their own mining algorithm. We have a solid design in power supply circuity to ensure stable fpga performance for long time mining operation. Due to the trade dispute between US and China, we have decided to move the production to US. So this fpga miner will be 100% made in USA At the moment we are trying to figure out how many people are interested in ordering this fpga miner. Note that the one showed in the pictures are the prototype design, there will be a few improvement in the final design. We have already lined up the suppliers and manufactures and within three months we shall be able to get them shipped. We will go ahead to make a batch if we can receive more 500 orders, it is probably the minimal quantity below which we would lose money making any... The price is $345 (USD) If you are interested or have any questions please send email to dev@agilmine.comOr join us in our discord channel! https://discord.gg/R36gzXMIf you consider pre-ordering please provide your bitcointalk id and quantity interested in ordering. Thanks.     ===Previously updated on June 19=== Hi guys, some of you may know that I posted my original thread in March, since then we have NEVER stopped a single day working on this exiting project to bring you an affordable, portable, low power yet powerful fpga miner on a usb stick. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3073933.0Today, I am happy to announce that after months of hardworking our hardware design is finalized and sent to board manufacturer for test board production. see the pic yourself, it shows a real work designed by real engineers. you should stay with the real stuff and run away from scams.  our website is still under construction (none of us is good web developer) and we DO NOT accept pre-order until this design is fully tested work! Cheers |
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the cheapest one should be in $300 price range. with performance close to a gpu but 1/5 to 1/10 power consumption. That's very impressive fpga mining rig you have there! but you see this is the problem, not everyone can afford $4000 for a fpga accelerator, we are trying to make a product accessible to everyone at low price with decent performance. how much price target you are planing? |
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That's very impressive fpga mining rig you have there! but you see this is the problem, not everyone can afford $4000 for a fpga accelerator, we are trying to make a product accessible to everyone at low price with decent performance. |
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Also very interested.
I believe ROI is the most important factor in general. People rush in when ROI<6 months (GPUs), consider the possible resale value of GPUs, shorter ROI might be anticipated for your miner.
If you continue to support it and make it possible to be adapted to diff algorithms, that will be a huge plus.
Thank you for the good comment. for the algorithm support, we do plan to continue supporting it, but what i really hope is to build this platform upon which the community can spontaneously kick start their own projects supporting different coins interest them. |
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I think this is a cool idea and I'm glad this got bumped. Just like any new invention, the cost of entry will be expensive at first and the results won't be as high as they could be, but you have to crack a few eggs to make an omelette. I see a lot of people referencing AMD GPUs here. I'm sure the FPGA idea would be a pipe dream if there was an overabundant supply of RX 580s for $200 each. Live by the GPU, Die by the GPU. Smart miners look for ways to diversify. I would definitely buy one of these. An idea for OP would be to offer some kind of incentive in the form of future discounts and pre-releases to early adopters.
we will release more info on pre-order once we have the prototype board ready. thanks |
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Most importantly, I'd like to hear what you want, give us some ideas from your pipe dream and we will try our best to design it in. Thanks. Very good progress. It would be nice to implement PCI Express x1 at least, and allow the development of third-party firmware. I hear you. PCIE is on our todo list. |
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Hello Everyone, sorry for lack of updates. we have been busy working all the time and paid little(no) attention to the public relationship and marketing aspects. We have made major breakthrough in both the HW and SW development. it has been found that the power supply circuit on any of the off-the-shelf FPGA development boards is way insufficient to support any crypto mining algorithm running at a decent speed. we made a board modification to use different power supply chip which can deliver up to 25A of current to FPGA device. with this mighty power circuit mod, we managed to achieve the following fpga design goals on our development board: 4/21 - Developed and verified two Altcoin mining algorithms, both can run at 2/3 hashrate of a mid-class GPU (use RX470 as a reference), with only 1/10 of power consumption. The whole board power consumption is measured at 12W. But this is my big hack-up board. Our final slimmed down version board would consume even less power. Currently, we have been testing on a development board with early Engineering Sample FPGA device. This specific FPGA device is scheduled to be in full production in second half of 2018. We are actively negotiating with the sales and distributors trying to get this chip sooner and at an affordable price for customers. Remember our design goals are: 1. Affordable(cheap) and accessible to EVERYONE, not the selected few. We'd like to contribute to the decentralization of the crypto, not the other way. because we believe crypto belongs to the people not big mining farms. 2. Active after-launch development to continuously add support for multiple Altcoin mining algorithms based on the crowd demand. 3. Home mining friendly. not an excessive heat radiator or noise generator.. like those antminers (i used to have a few in my basement and traumatized by that experience ) 4. Light wight and mobility. plug in and mine anywhere with your laptop. Most importantly, I'd like to hear what you want, give us some ideas from your pipe dream and we will try our best to design it in. Thanks. |
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we observed the same thing that the PMIC on those commercial development board is not capable of providing enough power to the FPGA with a fully unrolled pipeline design. that's one reason why we want our own custom pcb design with a beefy power supply.
thanks for the suggestion on pcie, we will consider adding it to the design.
btw, you said some coins may fit in fpga miner, can you give me some names? maybe we can expand our product to be more generic and available to support various mining algorithms.
Thanks!
I am taking algorithms from the Tpruvot's ccminer. All algorithms that are using from 1 to 5 hashes are profitable in practice, like nist5 or groestle. what do you think of having a on-board 4GB DDR4 SRAM? would it be useful for mining memory intensive algorithms? what other components could be useful addition to the fpga board? |
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we observed the same thing that the PMIC on those commercial development board is not capable of providing enough power to the FPGA with a fully unrolled pipeline design. that's one reason why we want our own custom pcb design with a beefy power supply.
thanks for the suggestion on pcie, we will consider adding it to the design.
btw, you said some coins may fit in fpga miner, can you give me some names? maybe we can expand our product to be more generic and available to support various mining algorithms.
Thanks!
I am taking algorithms from the Tpruvot's ccminer. All algorithms that are using from 1 to 5 hashes are profitable in practice, like nist5 or groestle. this is valuable comment. there will be great potential if we can make it compatible working with ccminer and hw resource capable of supporting multiple algorithms. Thanks. |
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thank you for the good advice on power supply. we are currently considering a 10A power supply to VCCINT and VCCBRAM. based on our initial power estimate the total fpga power consumption should be below 10w. for PCIE i am not sure it would fit on the miner-on-a-stick product? admittedly both of us has limited hw design experience, so we are trying to keep thing simple(and cheap)as possible I would prefer a narrow and short PCI Express board. It is scalable and standard solution. Also I have built some miners on generic development boards by Xilinx. But all of these boards never reach the performance of the professional level device. The dev kit fails to cool and to withstand the ripple of the core's supply. It was very sad to see a good FPGA soldered to such restricted PCB. I would start from XC7K160T device. Some coins would fit in it pretty well. we observed the same thing that the PMIC on those commercial development board is not capable of providing enough power to the FPGA with a fully unrolled pipeline design. that's one reason why we want our own custom pcb design with a beefy power supply. thanks for the suggestion on pcie, we will consider adding it to the design. btw, you said some coins may fit in fpga miner, can you give me some names? maybe we can expand our product to be more generic and available to support various mining algorithms. Thanks! |
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the power consumption is almost guaranteed to be low due to the advancement of fpga hardware technology in recent years. between hashrate and price you need to strike a balance, however, but to me i think to make it cheap and accessible to people is more important.
I think the board should have a PCI Express interface, at least x1. This makes easy integration with ccminer and others. Also VCCINT's current should be at least 10A per 10000 slices, and strong decoupling. thank you for the good advice on power supply. we are currently considering a 10A power supply to VCCINT and VCCBRAM. based on our initial power estimate the total fpga power consumption should be below 10w. for PCIE i am not sure it would fit on the miner-on-a-stick product? admittedly both of us has limited hw design experience, so we are trying to keep thing simple(and cheap)as possible |
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FPGA miners sound cool and scary for me at the same time (being a GPU miner). I know you can use FPGA to mine almost anything when you know how to generate a bitstream (?) for the algo you want to mine.
FPGA seems the way to go if the:
Price is normal (everyone is able to buy, not like ASICs. Keeps the network decentralized)
Hashrate is high
Power usage is really low
the power consumption is almost guaranteed to be low due to the advancement of fpga hardware technology in recent years. between hashrate and price you need to strike a balance, however, but to me i think to make it cheap and accessible to people is more important. |
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I would consider it, if it was well supported. Xilinx or Alterra?
Thank you for the interest. we are now custom designing pcb board for xilinx fpga. |
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Hi man, i am trying to msg you but you set no msg from new_bie, which i am here. do you mind send me a private message? i am here with an oppty for you. email also works. mine can be find in my profile. thank you! Rochester sorry man i haven't logged in for a while and missed your post, would you mind sending me a pm with your email address? because i don't see that from your profile, probably because i am also a newbie? thanks. |
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