Lol your full of shit man. Get a life carsen. We all know why you won't do PoD.
How is that so? You can't deny math... What is 0.08% of 15 Million then? Also have no idea who Carsen is? Also PoD will hopefully be getting done this week. I know that if you hold 7% of the PoW coins like you took for a premine that turns into 7% of the total coins not .8% you fuck. When a dev says the premine is X they are to PoW. Until you admit you took 7% of the PoW blocks/coins and say it is 7% I won't quit. Yes it is 7% of PoW, but 0.08% Total Xuro, which is what we listed it as. Also it would only turn into 7% of all coins after PoS has completed. Which is a rather long time. Wow, a new low. Stealing URO name, DRK X11, adding no value, and calculating pre-mine for total supply even though you're cashing out that 7% well before coin is meant to mature. Greedy, greedy, greedy. |
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How's this sound Bosman...
You refund shareholder BTC in exchange for GPC? Ie a reverse ICO.
This seems fair considering you pledge fairness and have not delivered. Clearly the bounty/dev costs are not an issue. If you're truly jaded right this wrong, or do so to the best of your ability with refunds.
Though, let's see what our community votes first...
I vote yes. I want a refund.
Quit whining like a crybaby, price is still a little bit higher than it was at the first phase of the ICO, I'm sorry that you weren't smart enough to sell coin at all time highs, no one to blame but yourself for that, and no one forced you to join the ICO either. It's called freedom of choice, learn to use it wisely. Price is 45 sats. Remind me the ICO price? I'm not holding a bagload of GPC. You're holding none. So the fair distribution is for you to pump and dump? Got ya. |
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Spoetnik, c'mon man. you're not even trying anymore. Big Vern programmed atari's at 12 years old. He's one of, if not the most highly recommended Ecommerce web developers in the game. he has thousands of recommendations on LinkedIn. Mention his name as a reference in a job interview = you get a job. Dude is more important than you will ever be, and he's a damn good developer. FWIW, he's also pretty cool once you get to know him, and he gives solid advice.
Am i cheerleading? Nope. I don't like some things they've done in the past, and you can ask any employee @ cryptsy i'm very vocal in airing a complaint, i just don't do it on the forum which is what a child does for attention. I contact the person directly and handle it. I told vern hey, i don't like xyz, or hey i think you should change the way xyz works. it would be more efficient. or hey xyz sometimes shows xyz message when condition w is met. the customer should never see that message.
I do have an outstanding complaint about a feature of the site, and i will not comment about it publicly but at the time of this writing it hasn't been fixed yet. i would consider it mission critical, and i've reported it, but you know, its whatever at this point.
if this is true then i'm shocked he has gone out of the way to perpetuate a site that is full of known bugs and glitches!!!  Back in April during HeartBleed, Cryptsy allowed logins during their hotfix of the SSL / digital certificate and I couldn't get a hold of Big Vern to relay a pastebin ad for access to the site ie possibly a copy of the digital certificate. Support simply replied with a template "thank you for your ticket blah blah" Never heard back though I know the issue was fixed eventually. I'm sure BV is a great guy bug sometimes smart ppl believe they're infallible, especially when it comes to security and coding they've coded. Mark Karpeles is an extreme example of this. Is BV the same way? I don't know. His support team recently provided great support to a REDD/RED issue on Reddit and StackExchange, so I have to assume this is indicative of a good boss. Cryptsy is a dinosaur now. And when exchanges become obsolete bad things happen IME. Just my 2 cents. |
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How's this sound Bosman...
You refund shareholder BTC in exchange for GPC? Ie a reverse ICO.
This seems fair considering you pledge fairness and have not delivered. Clearly the bounty/dev costs are not an issue. If you're truly jaded right this wrong, or do so to the best of your ability with refunds.
Though, let's see what our community votes first...
I vote yes. I want a refund.
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Alright folks, I really couldn't stay online for long.. have to head to work. I will try and make updates during the day, however any share registration will take place tonight! Remember, its not to late to donate and add to your current number of shares! Make sure to register before the deadline on Sunday to ensure you get on the train  ! Can I ask... what is the big rush?? You're obviously busy with work...how are you going to develop after Sunday and WHAT are you going to develop? You're doing an ICO here calling it fair distribution. It's a pyramid the way I see it (early adopters paying for others to make profit). I'm trying to see the value here but it's coming across as another ninja ICO "48 hour dev" coin. Can you please fill me and anyone else in on plans further than 48 hours from now, and why the big rush? True! No rush persay, I just want to ensure the distribution is as deep as possible before Sunday. As far as future developments are concerned, we as a community will have the resources to explore some great initiatives. Do I want to speculate on those now? No. I want to focus on a flawless launch and ensure the distribution keeps with the vision of GROUPCoin. ...I want to look at development opportunities objectively, with thought and planning BEFORE I introduce these promises to the community. If this seems foreign to you, I completely understand. That seems to be how the entire crypto space works at the moment. Lets change that practice as a group and build the coin on a solid foundation. Didn't this set off warning bells for ppl? I feel for those who bought into this bc the pitch sounds great... Fair launch, fair community development, but what has happened is completely unfair given they put faith in your leadership, and you provided... NOTHING. Investors: be sure to follow using the new laws which will hunt down scammers like this. We are just expecting a fucking miracle right there. I'll just consider my money 100% lost at that point. My fault, i shouldn't have invested in a coin that was about finding a dev since the beginning, i should have read.
This was to be expected.
Sorry france. I had high hopes and expected more. I'm becoming more and more jaded about what has become of this space. You're jaded? Why, have you invested or lost money here? You certainly put in no work except ICO spreadsheets to keep it "fair". And now bc a dev won't step up to develop the coin you sold shares of, you're saying you're jaded! Wow. The idiom "fail to plan, plan to fail" would be appropriate except your plan never extended past collecting BTC and using ICO shares (ie bag holder fear) to get the shareholders to rally Bittrex. Ask yourself, why would a dev step up to fix your ICO coin if he could do it himself?You've clearly got no development skills at all. You've simply bought a copy/paste coin, then transferred according to a spreadsheet. If any shareholders disagree then that's fine. But to hear this bullshit from the dev who said the whole point of the coin was not to screw investors ... Then to hear HE'S jaded?! Wow. |
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noob questions
i have addres and privat key.
synchronized Wallet.
how do I get my coin?
Go to help, bring up console Type: importprivkey PASTEPRIVKEYHERE main |
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yes, it has not been hacked i can assure you that, there is huge amounts of sensitive information and bitcoin key addresses which would have been comprimised also if that was the case. it has not been hacked. if i imported my privkey twice after wallet crashes would it have sent it to another addy?
Ok, second option. It's your key cause you sent 100 coins in same transaction. Is it your address: SUELG2qgdZTXW8MVbCCDeBoS9MUM4VTEFj? Edit: PM sent. +1 It's your change address. You can try dumpprivkey SUELG2qgdZTXW8MVbCCDeBoS9MUM4VTEFj DO NOT SHARE THE PRIVKEY RETURNED (if it is returned you own the address) Ps. You may need to use walletunlock PASSWORD 180 |
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Yes, but the devs are working on it, give them time! People can give Crypti weeks and can't give SYS team couple days?
You are missing the point. Crypti dint stick a non-working wallet to everyone and then disappeared for 12hrs. Its better to delay the product than to release a non working one. I for one would have been happier if that had been the case. Would I have moaned and bitched about it? Sure. But being unable to get out of a position which I dont want (read the wallets are still not working fine) is not something I want the syscoin developer to decide. For the love of .. You really are in total and utter FUD mode.. This is the ONLY escrow I know of where the BTC was not released as soon as the coins were delivered and coin launched (As I said that I know off, could be wrong). I think its laughable that people are moaning so much over the escrow. We have been fully transparent about everything. Moolah have been fully transparent about everything. We have not gone missing at any one point for 12 hours, the amount of FUD on BCT caused us to to move to IRC to help people. We communicated this and told people that we were there answering questions. And no I am not going to reply to any further "comments" from you. We have code to fix and test. Spot on. Every other ICO (groupcoin being latest eg) has pilfered investors then run away but ppl are happily funding this shit. Your ICO ฿ is in escrow and Moolah gives a chance for the devs to fix an issue but apparently waiting 48 hours to sell is too long? I hate the term FUD but this is FUD pure and simple. Clearly you're going to sell as soon as you get your coins so this has nothing to do with anything but fearing the uncertainty and doubt and deciding to cash out. Seems unfulfilled promises of release are better than precise ultimatums for release in the CryptoVerse. |
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Alright folks, I really couldn't stay online for long.. have to head to work. I will try and make updates during the day, however any share registration will take place tonight! Remember, its not to late to donate and add to your current number of shares! Make sure to register before the deadline on Sunday to ensure you get on the train ! Can I ask... what is the big rush?? You're obviously busy with work...how are you going to develop after Sunday and WHAT are you going to develop? You're doing an ICO here calling it fair distribution. It's a pyramid the way I see it (early adopters paying for others to make profit). I'm trying to see the value here but it's coming across as another ninja ICO "48 hour dev" coin. Can you please fill me and anyone else in on plans further than 48 hours from now, and why the big rush? True! No rush persay, I just want to ensure the distribution is as deep as possible before Sunday. As far as future developments are concerned, we as a community will have the resources to explore some great initiatives. Do I want to speculate on those now? No. I want to focus on a flawless launch and ensure the distribution keeps with the vision of GROUPCoin. I refuse to make coming soon announcements that are premature and only designed to drive speculation. I want to look at development opportunities objectively, with thought and planning BEFORE I introduce these promises to the community. If this seems foreign to you, I completely understand. That seems to be how the entire crypto space works at the moment. Lets change that practice as a group and build the coin on a solid foundation. Bosman Didn't this set off warning bells for ppl? I feel for those who bought into this bc the pitch sounds great... Fair launch, fair community development, but what has happened is completely unfair given they put faith in your leadership, and you provided... NOTHING. Investors: be sure to follow using the new laws which will hunt down scammers like this. |
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Current Distribution  So you took 6% for development and did nothing? 6% premine. Sold and one dev is gone. Typical... PPL STOP PAYING THESE SCAMMING PIECES OF SHIT |
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True! No rush persay, I just want to ensure the distribution is as deep as possible before Sunday.
As far as future developments are concerned, we as a community will have the resources to explore some great initiatives. Do I want to speculate on those now? No. I want to focus on a flawless launch and ensure the distribution keeps with the vision of GROUPCoin.
I refuse to make coming soon announcements that are premature and only designed to drive speculation. I want to look at development opportunities objectively, with thought and planning BEFORE I introduce these promises to the community. If this seems foreign to you, I completely understand. That seems to be how the entire crypto space works at the moment. Lets change that practice as a group and build the coin on a solid foundation.
Thanks for the reply. You're doing things backwards. A coin has no value unless it serves a purpose. You are worried about distribution but you admit yourself you have no direction for your coin; plans will be explored as a community you say. There's nothing for a community to rally around! You're just selling 100% ICO shares here. You say there's no rush, perhaps a Blockchain or a website or a whitepaper should be done BEFORE you start selling coins. You've hardly got enough time now... This is a "48hr dev" if I ever saw one (a developer who has no plans to develop the coin past 48 hours of time). The altcoin community has been burnt too many times in July. I see you've made $1000 for pre-mined coins you're distributing... https://blockchain.info/address/1HvE3KHsCyz8v5rp4FFBtgGFCDP4A3vkkU ... So let's ask the community... if you're paying the dev thousands of dollars is a PLAN unreasonable? |
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ONLY ICO?? bye bye
We will not distribute coins for free that mainly protects the shareholders' interest. But we share 10% globallcoin.com stocks for free. Whether Compliance with your request? Lol... - newbie account
- full ipo
- website broken
- no plans or point of difference
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same story for ARCOIN, this scam still active, 30% coin instamined by dev without wallet, and now are they promoting arcoin going to wall street lol, fake news only for pump price and dump the coin, also deleted tons of post from people for hide this scam...stay away more info: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=697009.0 page 3 It's bad. Bittrex should delist Elite and refund all users. Instead they chose to keep the markets open and say its not our fold? This way of doing business is really bad, no serious investor will step in such an exchange, he will look further Firstly, you're not investing, you're gambling. Secondly, the proof of shady devs was there from the start. You want bittrex to halt the markets but then others are bitching the markets are halted and they're stuck with worthless coins. |
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altcoin trading volume is way down today.
too many scams. the public trust has been destroyed.
we all have to quit supporting scamcoins.
Its not interesting what happens in a day. I hope monthly % goes down by atleast 10%. I will invest alot of time to achieve that. I'm very dedicated in what I do. This is very bad for business and bittrex knows it. have you ever talked to the three guys who represent bittrex? they all talk like complete dickheads. they dont give a shit about the altcoin community. they want 'volume' no matter what the cost. they are clearly in debt/in over their heads/ or just short-term players. i would not be surprised to see them pull the old 'hack' bullshit and leave with a big bag of btc. obviously their policies serve their interests only. You're angry with Bittrex? Bittrex makes a pittance compared to the scammers actively pulling this shit time and time again and you all support these coins, get caught up in the emotions and are always saying "why doesn't bittrex add XXX?" Or "I'm waiting to trade on bittrex". The guys from Bittrex are damned professional compared to say Cryptsy. Their security and scalability is top notch. It's just tall poppy syndrome - they have at least given their names, unlike these anonymous scammers who win time and time again. Yes, their policies serve their interests only, it's a damned business! This isn't investing, it's insider gambling. So if you lose at the casino and decide you want your money back, you know it ain't happening. Don't waste your energy. But getting grifted by scammer devs with no plans outside the casino... That's different. You have a right to be angry with the scammers and there's only one way you'll stop this... STOP SUPPORTING THE 48 HR DEVS! Unless you're the scammer or a pump and dump trader you are not getting rich overnight. None of these coins are going to provide what BTC did in 4solid years of work. CryptoRush screwed up and everyone got blackcoins in excess. The customer won and CR was out hundreds of thousands of dollars and no one returned the blackcoin. There's no damned Crypto-Currency community bc it's every man for himself (which is sad). I place the blame here at BCT and on the scammers. Bittrex gives the customer what they want. Take responsibility and realise you're not getting rich overnight. |
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I am a pool op, and I actually support this.
Listen, I've seen many pool ops post large image advertisements of their pool. This advertisement would then get quoted countless times. That definitely spam's up a thread.
There are other ways to advertise a new pool, like SuprNova just posted, the main page of the pool op's website, and a twitter feed.
However, I do think mod's should also do something about the FUD spreaders, don't just come down on the pool ops.
FUD is healthy and needed if there is a free for all scam environment.. funny you say they should so something about FUD'ers and NOT the scammers LOLOLOL that is a coin cloners desperate little attempt to cry for protection for your shit coin cloning here i think. guys don't forget half these coin cloners run pools too.. how else do you think they collect those bounties LOL and if anyone thinks i just said that because i am trying to cover my own behavior i am not.. i rarely ever post on coins in the ANN section and i actually try and leave them alone ..no matter how scammy they are. simply because my posts will not do anything but bloat the forum.. and it won't do any good AND i don't want to bump their crap coin topics for them hahha Well put. I actually can see the logic to this now... If a dev can't answer a pm, then it's a scam. In fact, this is probably one of the best ways to nip the whole "48 hour dev" thing in the bud. As for censoring FUD ... That's ridiculous, FUD as some call it is what I call UD ... If you don't have uncertainty and doubt over a coin promising the world and pushing for 24 hour pow times then you're the bigger fool. My concern is by targeting mining pools though, it's going to accelerate ICOs and the like. Take a look at GroupCoin for example... Promising "fair distribution" but has NO POW PHASE. All ICO sales. |
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Alright folks, I really couldn't stay online for long.. have to head to work. I will try and make updates during the day, however any share registration will take place tonight! Remember, its not to late to donate and add to your current number of shares! Make sure to register before the deadline on Sunday to ensure you get on the train ! Can I ask... what is the big rush?? You're obviously busy with work...how are you going to develop after Sunday and WHAT are you going to develop? You're doing an ICO here calling it fair distribution. It's a pyramid the way I see it (early adopters paying for others to make profit). I'm trying to see the value here but it's coming across as another ninja ICO "48 hour dev" coin. Can you please fill me and anyone else in on plans further than 48 hours from now, and why the big rush? |
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All Bittrex wants is for us to demonstrate our community. I doubt that will be an issue, however I will need all of your support in a couple days on a Twitter Blitz! Details to come soon.
Bittrex wants a community to stop "48 hour devs" (their words, not mine). So the coin gets distributed fairly, but the poster above has a point.... What are your plans other than distributing ICO coins to "community"? |
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We have all been hit hard by the rash of scam coins lately. The instinct is to find a way to verify developers are real people. The thought is that if you get the real name of a developer you can extract justice if he or she scams you.
Some in the community will USE this situation for PROFIT! There is no need for verification! Bitcoin inventor Satoshi Nakamoto is anonymous STILL despite what Newsweek says!
Let's be real here. People get SCAMMED because they get GREEDY! You buy coins that are launched with PROMISES. Well guess what, if you buy on a promise the odds are you are going to get burned. The altcoin market has become a casino where the odds have slowly moved against the bettor.
I am the founder of Judge Coin. I have voluntarily provided my personal data on the coin website! I am not going to send my Drivers License to anyone! If the altcoin market is going to demand that I send my drivers licence to someone I don't even know then I am out. I don't have a personal facebook or twitter as those things can be used for stalking. Why should I be punished with a lower trust score? This is ridiculous.
SCAM SIGNS!
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If you buy a coin that launches without a website, then you will get scammed!
If you buy a coin that is Ninja Launched, then you will get scammed!
If you buy a coin with a premine, then you will get scammed!
If you buy a coin with an ICO, then you will get scammed!
IF YOU BUY A COIN BASED ON A PROMISE YOU WILL GET SCAMMED!
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If a coin has a really great idea but needs money, tell them to start a kick starter or get private investors. I pay for my coin's website and other startup expenses out of my personal funds.
People are following PUMPERS on Twitter trying to get 10x their money. It is your greed that is costing you! Even if you WIN you are costing someone else money that is LOSING!
STOP THE MADNESS. Buy a coin you believe in. Don't buy on promises, buy on what they deliver. If you have made money in a P&D, you have hurt someone in the community!
Hmmmmm.... A suspiciously rational post. What's your angle?  I'm gonna check out judge coin as it seems a dev exists who isn't setting out to scam with premines and promises for once! And fully in agreement... Startup funds need kick starter or dev investment. It's not the "community's" (if you call it that) problem to fund a dev. The product will do that. Great post, I'll check out JUDGE |
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You gotta be kidding, right?
What's next?
Next FUD will be banned, and every thread will have one page. That would be kinda nice, actually. Seriously, BCT becomes lame lately. First giveaways, now they forbid to pool OPs to advertise their service in the topics, while 12 year olds make 100 accounts to spread FUD and insult people. I neither agree or disagree re pools bc I don't mine any more... But OP has a point. BCT allows has ignored all calls for moderation of altcoin sub-forums and this is the first thing to bring into action? I'd say the pressing issue is multiple accounts and serial scammers more so than the pools clogging up threads with "spam". Whatever happened to the rule where you couldn't post with a new account until a certain threshold of time and/or newbie introduction? Multiple accounts are allowed since a "one account" policy is nearly impossible to effectively enforce with TOR, proxies and VPNs circling about, (possible) scams are not moderated forum wide - freedom comes at a price. Newbie jail was abolished. This was changed by bringing in more moderators who moderate Newbie posts site wide (that would be me and hilariousandco) and several older mods were given the ability to moderate Newbie posts as well. Very true, it is difficult to police, and I wouldn't even know what to recommend as a solution because any mod would go nuts with the altcoins section of BCT. No matter the reason, it's a great sign some of the lawlessness is being swept up. As I said I'm on the fence with pool advertising as I don't mine. But it's as good a place as any to start cleaning up so I (we?) appreciate the gesture. |
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