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121  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: May 15, 2014, 09:00:25 PM
I made a graph of asicminer stock in USD prices. I'm mystified at the affect USD/BTC price has on asicminer stock. Certainly cheap shares at the moment.
Charts based on historical data from btct, havelock and bitcoinwisdom. Time not to scale, data is approximate. Related chart and raw data @ http://imgur.com/a/EW74v#0


Awesome chart, thanks for this work
122  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: May 15, 2014, 06:43:37 PM

Last two questions.

Does anyone know how much capital is retained from profits for future reinvestment?

Are there any other revenue streams apart from self mining, franchise mining and chip sales?


I don't believe any profits from Gen3 chip sales are going to be retained, thus the "aggressive" dividends.  I think friedcat has enough in reserves to cover Gen4 R&D.

Nope.  Those are the only revenue streams that I'm aware of.


The dividend schedule will be aggressive, as AM will not require large sums of retained capital. The rationale is that AM doesn't need to invest large sums into infrastructure and that the majority of chip production costs will be covered by the business partners on a contract schedule. The new round of dividends are scheduled to begin as soon as the first large purchases have concluded and should precede or coincide with the publication of the updated financial statements.


123  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: May 15, 2014, 03:30:06 PM
do you think it could go above .5 once divs are here?


You should look into some theory around how dividend producing assets are typically priced. It depends on the amount and timing of the dividends  Lips sealed

I've placed my bet on yes namely due to the usually irrational swings in market cap with positive and negative news  Wink
124  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] on: May 15, 2014, 02:07:26 PM
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(vii)  How much of ActM/VMCs assets were exposed as a result of the acquisition of People's Asic?

~157,000 shares


People's ASIC have done good getting things moving and they are behind the ASIC IP but don't you think buying them for 150,000 shares is a little low?

I mean, did we just buy a small part of People's ASIC for $10,000 or the entire company?

I can understand if you sold them a million shares, but only 150k?

I am asking because that must mean something else was on the table right? Perhaps salary?

Ken has mentioned there was no BTC/USD salary component in the past.
125  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: May 05, 2014, 04:29:20 PM
Something's happening. ROCKMINER really seems to make progress. I wonder when they'll be ready to enter mass production!

https://twitter.com/RockMinerInc/status/463350124803260416


Must be nothing! Let the Havelock share price continue to fall  Grin
126  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] on: May 02, 2014, 06:34:52 PM
I can promise you we will all STFU and stop contacting people if we can verify our shares and if progress is made in the direction of trading. Not acting fast on this is going to end in pain for everybody

This is accurate. Issuing unregulated securities without KYC/AML and trading on an unregulated exchange draws an investigation from MSD, but not necessarily crippling action - this organization exits to protect the people. MSD doesn't HAVE to act, beyond inevitable fines, if they believe no one is being harmed and there aren't overwhelming complaints.

Withholding shares with no ability to redeem or trade with no path to liquidity brings about allegations of fraud. We are past a reasonable amount of time after Bitfunder collapse to institute a new system for trading or exchanging shares. These complaints and allegations will force the MSD/SEC to act. They already have the ability to freeze bank accounts etc., and are choosing not to.

The issue here, and why I'm getting nervous, is there can be multiple cases made at this point with some credibility:

**I DO NOT believe any of these to be true, but if the case can be made the MSD will have to come in and investigate - which at this stage of the game will likely bankrupt or force a liquidation**

1. Ken might not have the ability to verify which shares belong to who. He has not proved he can do this. Why do we not have an ability to check how many shares we own?
2. Ken may be paying himself and his employees unreasonable salaries until the IPO money is gone with no intention of developing a custom chip. We have have no financial reports issued to explore and no tangible evidence suggesting a chip initiative.
3. Ken might intend to obfuscate true profits of the mining operation and not pay dividends on the agreed upon preferential schedule. We have no cost basis or idea to go on.

All of this would be fine if shareholders could exit when desired, but we are locked in without an option as the project drifts further from the original prospectus.

The lack of transparency combined with the apparent progress we are making makes it a logical consideration for shareholders to consider litigation. If you truly believe Ken never intends on giving access to shares or dividends, it makes financial sense to force a liquidation..this is the issue we are about to face.

Ken: your vague communication and lack of details is making investors antsy - you have created value and it is time to outline the plan you have to share this with investors. This project will get monumentally more difficult if the general investor base begins to suspect fraud and harass you legally. Satisfying investors is equally as important as getting the mining farm up. Focus on this. And for gods sake, resolve the refund and shipping issues. Give people free shipping or generous coupons for the inconvenience - consumer protection lawns will destroy you and happy customers are what makes a business thrive.
127  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] on: May 01, 2014, 01:27:40 PM

If you're planning a 7 day roll-out, get enough hands to do it in 3.

In this game time is literally money.


This x100

Ken you need to stop over-promising and under-delivering. It's bad for confidence, it's literally the difference between constantly disappointing and pleasantly surprising.

128  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] on: April 30, 2014, 05:26:45 PM
In other news (2 posts in the event one gets censored)

The Gold Rush's seem to be selling fairly quickly, 20+ sold in the last 24 hours if you can trust the website. Has anyone here purchased?
129  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] on: April 30, 2014, 05:16:58 PM
Not sure why my previous post was ignored/brushed over - I think this is worth checking out. We need to be able to trade shares.

There is a decentralized asset market we can use to list our shares, ROCKMINER is currently using it. It is called CounterParty and to me looks like an implementation of colored coins. It removes the counter-party risk that the MSD seems to be fixated on.

Research needs to be done on how safe/usable this system is..but it is certainly worth checking out.

https://www.counterparty.co/about/
130  Economy / Digital goods / [WTS] Wildstar May 2-4 Closed Beta Weekend Key on: April 30, 2014, 02:03:14 PM
Like the title says - One closed beta key for the last Wildstar closed beta weekend.

$50 OBO payable in BTC

131  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] on: April 28, 2014, 08:17:05 PM
Are we still on track for ~170TH by the end of the week?

Edit:  Wink
132  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] on: April 24, 2014, 07:28:12 PM

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4) Did peoples ASIC actually help us at all? How much have they been paid via bitcoin, USD or shares.

Yes, we own a working ASIC IP.  Also, a lot of intangibles we received.  No bitcoins, or USD was paid.


Can we get any color around the acquisition? I assume they were paid in common shares out of your personal ownership?

I'd like to get confidence there was no alteration of the capital structure or change in preference of the AMC share dividends - in other words, are their interests aligned with shareholders?
133  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] on: April 24, 2014, 06:59:34 PM
Rockminer shares look like they are going to be traded in a decentralized way:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395761.0

Looks further along than Chroma wallet, just a suggestion

https://twitter.com/RockMinerInc/status/458829421231603712
134  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] on: April 22, 2014, 08:35:23 PM
Announcing our Gold Rush mining card:

In Stock ready to ship:

$1,499.00 .89 Watts per GH, 750 GH/s +/- 10%

PM me for orders for 10 units and over.  On our website soon for single orders.

Limited availability.

Good news - lets hope emkay47 is shipped 4 of these for his unexplained delay..
135  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: April 21, 2014, 10:56:29 PM
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1) What is the status, size, and expected delivery of the next batch of chips? What about the one after that?
re 1) This month: 850k, next month: 3.35m (order size), June: 6.7m (order size), assuming each chip is 10G.

100Ph at $0.5 profit per gh = $50,000,000 or 100,000 btc

100,000/400,000 = 0.25 btc per share. Not bad.

Where are we assuming $0.5 profit per GH - constant over the life of the generation?
136  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] on: April 15, 2014, 09:41:27 PM
Go hashrate go!

Also it would be nice to at least have the share ownership verified, even if they're not moved to an exchange straight away

I like your style.


Ken - Havelock will do the hard work for you, they have trading fees to earn. Let them!

Even if it's a stop gap for a couple of months it will alleviate the angst share liquidity is stirring in investors. We don't want to create more problems here.
137  Economy / Securities / Re: I vote Havelock on: April 14, 2014, 09:46:38 PM
I vote Havelock.

Seconded as long as there isn't an issue with MO securities office.

I'm hoping there isn't a reason more sinister than time mismanagement at play here.
138  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: April 14, 2014, 06:35:13 PM
More selling on Havelock... *sigh* why do I feel like someone knows something I don't... based on what is publicly known, it would seem like a terrible time to sell right now.

On very low volume
139  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2014, 11:58:23 PM
I don't have idea when to start seriously buying.  Undecided

When the suicide hotline posts start appearing on reddit is usually a good indicator
140  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: April 10, 2014, 11:32:12 PM
There is a fairly large sell of shares going on in Havelock, today and yesterday.  When this happens I figure it is due to some reason that has not been made it to the general public yet.  Anyone want to help an outsider out?

Are dividends expected to crumble with Rockminer taking over the hardware sales now?  The chip looks good, it looks like mass production is underway, why are so many people selling?  I suppose it could be an aberration, but definitely seems like a trend right now on Havelock.  

edit: ya maybe I'm over-reacting. maybe it was only a 100 shares. still... things seem to be trending down when I'd imagine they'd be trending up.

Likely people panicking about Bitcoin exposure as it tanks.. have to sell shares to get back into $$$ / €€€
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