A very smart guy! Try getting that amount of SLR soon  We thank them so much and all who have responded to this fundraising effort for Project 1 on ElectriCChain and also thanks to Scalextrix who is donating a battery and helping us on the ground for logistics in London! The solarcoin community is really amazing, like minded individuals helping each other try to do this! I will leave the comment with these valuable and wise words of wisdom. Not mine. "One thing I know for sure - we have to believe in ourselves and in what we do, then eventually it get's done. There is a way and we will find it. " Cheers to the sun! -lfloorwalker My pleasure guys, the battery is now delivered in the garage, Ill unpack/check over the weekend. |
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So for my part Im a long time BOINCer, so for me there is no competition and Gridcoin has to be the winner. While I respect everyone participating in the Folding community, and the coins that are working on that platform, they just arent for me. I think its fair I get that out of the way so you know my bias.
Gridcoin has a very strong community feel, its the first online community I ever felt I wanted to be a part of - there is something on this point that I think separates/elevates Gridcoin over many others, we have in wallet voting and this is genuinely used to make decisions for the community, by the community.
EDIT: I forgot to mention that Gridcoin is also good because you can use the CPU to earn, in fact as a large proportion of BOINC projects are CPU only, you can often earn more CPU crunching than GPU crunching. This for example leave your GPU free for gaming, or hashing other coins if you prefer. This is a real USP.
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Just sent 10$ to 1PYRzHsSpzQPyDCYmGe6Agx5bqNwUpjMRD
Come on guys lets get more donations. Lets make this happen
Just set §1000. One day this will be 100 dollars  Cool well done fellows, Im helping provide some free hardware for the project as Im based near London, hopefully others can chip in with SLR. I think the ElectriCChain is going to be massive for SolarCoin publicity. |
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is the price of SolarCoin going down, when the power produced by Solar Cells getting cheaper over time?
I dont think so, cheaper installation costs will encourage more people to install solar PV, which will mean more people claiming Solarcoin, a bigger network/market and therefore a higher value/utility to having Solarcoins. Unlike Bitcoin the difficulty of Solarcoin issue doesnt increase the more people join. |
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Well that hangout with Nick Gogerty was nothing short of amazing. I just wanted to drop by and let everyone know how lucky you are to have someone as intelligent and personable working on this project. I love the vision and the idea of changing the world and would love to hear more input in future hangouts if the community is interested.
Additionally I'm going to put a Solarcoin room in the mumble server found at beyondbitcoin.org/mumbleinfo so your community has a place to discuss and even record meetings in a private place where one of your trusted community members controls access.
I look forward to helping archive the documentation of growth in this community as I believe it is one of the projects taking the inspiration uᴉoɔʇᴉq brought us and exploring the galaxies beyond uᴉoɔʇᴉq. I am so humbled and thankful to have been able to learn more about all of you.
Unfortunately time is a factor that I cant overcome, Id love to hear the recordings if possible tho |
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When will Sia be added? It came second in this weeks voting round and has disapeared from the vote list. Thanks.
Its there now, solidcoin has been removed. Cant have two coins with the code SC Great thanks! Please also see my notes on the out of date Gridcoin logo and mining details, when you get some time |
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When will Sia be added? It came second in this weeks voting round and has disapeared from the vote list. Thanks.
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Excellent, keep spreading the word! |
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Gridcoin launched before curecoin! Grid coin just copied cure coin really. Cure coin was okay but they were just very slow to improve upon the way it worked. However lately it has started developing again.
Any alt coin that becomes very profitable in a BIG way will attract people not in crypto. If people hear they can make $ they will be attracted.
Some just love the idea like you say.
Is this true ?? I'm certain curecoin came first? Let me check it out. I heard about curecoin first maybe they announced first but took time to get it off the ground. Interesting though since I though cure coin came way before. Both are good. Doesn't curecoin use SHA256? That's massively wasteful compared to Proof of Stake. It'd be cool if folding@home was ported to BOINC, then we could reward folding@home computation - not out of the realm of possibilities. WELLLLLL - As I understand it there was a time, way back in the mists of crunching history when Folding@Home and BOINC nearly merged, but something didnt 'work out' and the two camps went their own directions... its just what I remember reading on a forum many years ago, perhaps enough time has passed. |
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I do not see a problem with proof-of-stake really, could you explain further?
... Yeah but Gridcoin isnt Proof of Stake, its Proof of Research. The PoS is combined with the BOINC work which changes the way it works, staking a block isnt purely based on the coin age. I get much more reward from my BOINC contribution in each block than from the PoS interest, so there is no barrier to me overtaking a larger coin holder if I exceed their BOINC contribution. The last block I got 3-1 BOINC versus PoS. |
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Just for the hell of it I decided to post on /r/solar, there is an intersting question about whether Solarcoin would invalidate an SREC claim, Im in the Uk so have no idea, anyone have the definative answer?
I believe it does invalidate the SREC... And how does it make any difference if you "believe" in this or not? Do you KNOW for sure if it invalidates the SREC, or not? If you do - where is your knowledge coming from? Any written law quotes, etc.? Anyway, thank you for your opinion! Written laws are what the SREC is about, it is controlled by the Government not an Ice Cream Man. Some states don't participate and others allow neighbors into their market. So when I say it invalidates SREC don't get defensive my friend. Let it invalidate the SREC market and/or dilute it. That will make people claim SLR as an alternative, but this doesn't make the price go up for SLR either, sorry to reiterate that theme again. But, it gives a lot more exposure to SLR since people would have to be told why their SREC claim was diluted. It doesn't make SLR illegal it just makes those that want to use the SREC get less for their claim. If SLR didn't require a Claim and just gave it to dealers to hand out then the SREC wouldn't be affected. At that point it is just an affiliate program and nothing to do with Claiming for buying. But you can debate me on whether the SREC may care about SLR, I think they would since it is money they can withhold from the SREC market. And if all SREC claimers double dip then who really cares at that point it is just more incentive. So really it is up to the SREC to make a judgement. They may not even know about it... Yet... Your beliefs do not create the laws - that's what I said. Unless... you are the one who writes the laws? Based on your beliefs? I just asked for the exact law quote your belief was based on. Not defensive, nor offensive - just looking for the facts. Yeah, I may believe in UFOs, yet that does not prove their existence. But our beliefs followed by our creative actions DO create the reality. That's what I know. It is a law that SREC is paid from the government, if they find out you are supplementing your payment in another market and claiming in their market do you think they will call that legal and not impose anything? It is a law that SLR is encroaching on, if it were the Ice Cream Man that granted SREC then no worries, unless the Ice Cream Man flys a UFO and only Solar Claimers can hear the Jingle and run outside... then I worry. I only worry when fighting against a law. I just stated what laws tend to be created for, if there is a way to game the law you also better believe they will take action. Like I said it will most likely devalue SREC and have no impact on SLR. This is only what I believe though, and it may also consequently outlaw SLR... Believe it or Not! So there is no law as of yet for SLR to invalidate the SREC. Thank you! The guy on /r/solar seemed quite concerned that Solarcoin was a competitor to his nascent SREC resale business, which is bad because these SREC resellers have access to the captive solar market in some locations and they will advise PV producers not to claim. On the other hand the fact they feel threatened means they at least know Solarcoin exists and think it must have some disruptive potential for them. So it's not a competitor, it's a supplemental non-governmental incentive program. Instead of worrying, they can start promoting SolarCoin and get their 10% referral bounty SLRs by helping the PV owners make their claims. Here is the referral program: http://solarcoin.org/en/solarcoin-10-bounty-program-is-now-live/I quite agree, there seems to be no statutory legal issue I was pointed to and I said as much. It seemed some SREC resellers are signing excusivity deals (exclusivity over exactly what wasnt apparent), that could be murky, all I said to that is never sign exclusivity into anything. I dont see how the SREC scheme would know a Solarcoin claim was in anyway (we dont want to direct people this way because it creates doubt). Its like driving your car while on your mobile phone, no-one will probably know, so long as you arent on the phone to the police while doing dohnuts in the police station car park. hahaha that made me laugh. Forgive me if I'm being ignorant but what would there be to gain from exclusivity deals? I was under the assumption that SREC's exist as a form of subsidization for the solar industry. Surely if the objective is to subsidize (or in other words help) the solar industry would another complimentary form of subsidization not be welcome? I don't see why there needs to be competition. Unless I'm missing something, which is possible as I don't know to much about SREC. Honestly Im as clueless as you, dont have SRECs in my region. |
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Just for the hell of it I decided to post on /r/solar, there is an intersting question about whether Solarcoin would invalidate an SREC claim, Im in the Uk so have no idea, anyone have the definative answer?
I believe it does invalidate the SREC... And how does it make any difference if you "believe" in this or not? Do you KNOW for sure if it invalidates the SREC, or not? If you do - where is your knowledge coming from? Any written law quotes, etc.? Anyway, thank you for your opinion! Written laws are what the SREC is about, it is controlled by the Government not an Ice Cream Man. Some states don't participate and others allow neighbors into their market. So when I say it invalidates SREC don't get defensive my friend. Let it invalidate the SREC market and/or dilute it. That will make people claim SLR as an alternative, but this doesn't make the price go up for SLR either, sorry to reiterate that theme again. But, it gives a lot more exposure to SLR since people would have to be told why their SREC claim was diluted. It doesn't make SLR illegal it just makes those that want to use the SREC get less for their claim. If SLR didn't require a Claim and just gave it to dealers to hand out then the SREC wouldn't be affected. At that point it is just an affiliate program and nothing to do with Claiming for buying. But you can debate me on whether the SREC may care about SLR, I think they would since it is money they can withhold from the SREC market. And if all SREC claimers double dip then who really cares at that point it is just more incentive. So really it is up to the SREC to make a judgement. They may not even know about it... Yet... Your beliefs do not create the laws - that's what I said. Unless... you are the one who writes the laws? Based on your beliefs? I just asked for the exact law quote your belief was based on. Not defensive, nor offensive - just looking for the facts. Yeah, I may believe in UFOs, yet that does not prove their existence. But our beliefs followed by our creative actions DO create the reality. That's what I know. It is a law that SREC is paid from the government, if they find out you are supplementing your payment in another market and claiming in their market do you think they will call that legal and not impose anything? It is a law that SLR is encroaching on, if it were the Ice Cream Man that granted SREC then no worries, unless the Ice Cream Man flys a UFO and only Solar Claimers can hear the Jingle and run outside... then I worry. I only worry when fighting against a law. I just stated what laws tend to be created for, if there is a way to game the law you also better believe they will take action. Like I said it will most likely devalue SREC and have no impact on SLR. This is only what I believe though, and it may also consequently outlaw SLR... Believe it or Not! So there is no law as of yet for SLR to invalidate the SREC. Thank you! The guy on /r/solar seemed quite concerned that Solarcoin was a competitor to his nascent SREC resale business, which is bad because these SREC resellers have access to the captive solar market in some locations and they will advise PV producers not to claim. On the other hand the fact they feel threatened means they at least know Solarcoin exists and think it must have some disruptive potential for them. So it's not a competitor, it's a supplemental non-governmental incentive program. Instead of worrying, they can start promoting SolarCoin and get their 10% referral bounty SLRs by helping the PV owners make their claims. Here is the referral program: http://solarcoin.org/en/solarcoin-10-bounty-program-is-now-live/I quite agree, there seems to be no statutory legal issue I was pointed to and I said as much. It seemed some SREC resellers are signing excusivity deals (exclusivity over exactly what wasnt apparent), that could be murky, all I said to that is never sign exclusivity into anything. I dont see how the SREC scheme would know a Solarcoin claim was in anyway (we dont want to direct people this way because it creates doubt). Its like driving your car while on your mobile phone, no-one will probably know, so long as you arent on the phone to the police while doing dohnuts in the police station car park. |
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dogecoindark -> VERGE
realized that TIPS had the wrong logo so i fixed it.
Gridcoin has an old logo, and Ill check some of the other info is old too, how do I fix that? EDIT: Also I added Sia to the voting list, the code is really SC but I had to enter SCx as SC wasnt acceptable, is that a bug, is it always looking for 3 or more letters? |
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Just for the hell of it I decided to post on /r/solar, there is an intersting question about whether Solarcoin would invalidate an SREC claim, Im in the Uk so have no idea, anyone have the definative answer?
I believe it does invalidate the SREC... And how does it make any difference if you "believe" in this or not? Do you KNOW for sure if it invalidates the SREC, or not? If you do - where is your knowledge coming from? Any written law quotes, etc.? Anyway, thank you for your opinion! Written laws are what the SREC is about, it is controlled by the Government not an Ice Cream Man. Some states don't participate and others allow neighbors into their market. So when I say it invalidates SREC don't get defensive my friend. Let it invalidate the SREC market and/or dilute it. That will make people claim SLR as an alternative, but this doesn't make the price go up for SLR either, sorry to reiterate that theme again. But, it gives a lot more exposure to SLR since people would have to be told why their SREC claim was diluted. It doesn't make SLR illegal it just makes those that want to use the SREC get less for their claim. If SLR didn't require a Claim and just gave it to dealers to hand out then the SREC wouldn't be affected. At that point it is just an affiliate program and nothing to do with Claiming for buying. But you can debate me on whether the SREC may care about SLR, I think they would since it is money they can withhold from the SREC market. And if all SREC claimers double dip then who really cares at that point it is just more incentive. So really it is up to the SREC to make a judgement. They may not even know about it... Yet... Your beliefs do not create the laws - that's what I said. Unless... you are the one who writes the laws? Based on your beliefs? I just asked for the exact law quote your belief was based on. Not defensive, nor offensive - just looking for the facts. Yeah, I may believe in UFOs, yet that does not prove their existence. But our beliefs followed by our creative actions DO create the reality. That's what I know. It is a law that SREC is paid from the government, if they find out you are supplementing your payment in another market and claiming in their market do you think they will call that legal and not impose anything? It is a law that SLR is encroaching on, if it were the Ice Cream Man that granted SREC then no worries, unless the Ice Cream Man flys a UFO and only Solar Claimers can hear the Jingle and run outside... then I worry. I only worry when fighting against a law. I just stated what laws tend to be created for, if there is a way to game the law you also better believe they will take action. Like I said it will most likely devalue SREC and have no impact on SLR. This is only what I believe though, and it may also consequently outlaw SLR... Believe it or Not! So there is no law as of yet for SLR to invalidate the SREC. Thank you! The guy on /r/solar seemed quite concerned that Solarcoin was a competitor to his nascent SREC resale business, which is bad because these SREC resellers have access to the captive solar market in some locations and they will advise PV producers not to claim. On the other hand the fact they feel threatened means they at least know Solarcoin exists and think it must have some disruptive potential for them. |
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Just for the hell of it I decided to post on /r/solar, there is an intersting question about whether Solarcoin would invalidate an SREC claim, Im in the Uk so have no idea, anyone have the definative answer?
I believe it does invalidate the SREC and what is worse is that States may include all SLR as payout and dilute the SREC payout. In any state where a Solar User has already gained SREC credits they should not claim SLR. SLR now competes with the SREC market currently at a lower valuation with no real incentive. Making SLR coin possibly illegal if they do claim for free even, since they can then sell the SLR they claim. Although not saying SLR is SREC, yet users located in SREC markets will participate in the selling of SREC and some are sold from one state into another state legally and now you subvert SREC markets by allowing them to reclaim. Local SREC markets may choose to then include other States SLR as a claim in their potential payout and dilute the SREC markets since the Gov. may use these as claims in their oversight and just not pay the market as well. This would be the only way to legally sell your SLR, being when the Gov. includes the SLR from states that don't participate in SREC Market as a dilution. For example: State A has an SREC market, State B is allowed into State A SREC market, and State C has no market and is not allowed into other markets. State A and B should not be able to participate in SLR only State C. But With the Traversal of State B into A they may include SLR in their market and dilute the actual markets across the board. This is if they don't outlaw SLR or require SLR to validate against SREC claims before issuance. Which would disallow State A and B from SLR participation. Crumbs! What a mess  |
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Just for the hell of it I decided to post on /r/solar, there is an intersting question about whether Solarcoin would invalidate an SREC claim, Im in the Uk so have no idea, anyone have the definative answer?
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update on electricchain.org feel free to join if you wish monitor. call was held with sr. manager in energy at Xerox Parc yesterday they are introducing to software and hardware teams. NASA conversation is on Friday. Good discussions with IOTA / GridSingularity being held pilot projects being planned. Things moving well with sunspec. Meeting with Michael Casey of MIT is leading to some students getting introduced to the project soon. for those in NYC April 5. I will be presenting solarcoin on stage here at noon: https://www.conference-board.org/conferences/conferencedetail.cfm?conferenceid=2778Nick nice one, good luck Nick |
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I 3rd Gridcoin, easily one of the best coins for altrusm, I have contributed to some amazing projects over 10 years on the BOINC platform and its great for Gridcoin to help me in that continued effort! I also add a vote for Solarcoin, which is incentivising people to install Solar PV, also very worthy. Im not sure why Sia is added to a list like this, its a good coin Im using and invested in. Im also not clear why some other coins made it on this list, perhaps Im mis-interpreting the word 'ethical'. |
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Will solarcoin play a big role in electrachain? And vice versa?
the relationship is here: they are linked but independant. SolarCoin the currency helps verify production as affiliates verify the data sources and integrity of data on the blockchain. The solarcoin blockchain is intended as the primary data repository for the data.  the https on electricchain.org threw up warnings BTW |
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