Bitcoin Games Like You've Never Seen! ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5457016.0
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Otherwise, how to automatically check the quality of posts, especially at a time when the use of AI is quite popular?
At least to check whether a post was written with AI, it can be done by using AI checker service which offer API. Offline/local version might be exist, but i have no idea how good is it (if it's exist) or whether it need decent computer. --snip--
Since you're offering to manage bounty you can explore and develop it in your campaign this is actually a good tool to add when you are offering developers to manage their marketing.
This is the plan. In that case, you have plan to make graphical version of your library, right? Only few people would use terminal for this kind of task. Terminal suits my needs for which this tool was originally developed. Before considering a GUI, there would need to be some demand and I also have to prioritize adding a few more features and making the program use a proper database for robustness. PS. Integrating AI API would be a decent idea but then might need to use a paid service. Once again, I may consider options if there's a demand but I think this would require someone is prepared to pay me for the service. |
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You could have a better domain name. With these 0s (zeros) it really unusual for users to type and make sense. I understand it gives you better options for branding but your targeted audience need to get used to type numbers with letters. Also I think these type of domain are not search engine friendly too. But nonetheless, welcome to bitcointalk community. I wondered the same. But it seems like it has been integrated as part of the brand (looking at the logo) so I guess it is fine. Interested to see how the site will do. |
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the site and the games seemed innovative to me, but the question is the following: before creating your gambling site, did you do any research to find out if there is a lot of demand for games of this type? because what I have observed over the years is that people are more interested in dice games, sots, sports betting, card games, but have no interest in lottery games, many lottery sites have already appeared in this forum and in the last ones years I don't see the ann thread of these lottery sites having any active comments
this shows that people, despite putting money into gambling, something that depends on luck, they don't put money on lottery games, which is also something that depends on luck, maybe they don't put money on the lottery because they look at the lottery as something very harder for them to earn money compared to slot games or sports betting. anyway I believe that with your signature campaign running we will have a good idea if these lottery games have really attracted people's attention or not. Do you intend to do some kind of contest and promotions? this has also helped a lot in marketing
They already have a High/Low type of game also so it's not limited to lottery.
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I've got a few things to make clear. - BitDice has not had a signature campaign since November/December 2020
- I left BitDice at February 2022
- BitDice went down at around March 2023
I am being faulted for actions of my employer for which I acted in the sole role of customer support for the final years. What was really happening at BitDice really became clear only after my departure. One could argue that it was only clear over a year after I left them. The new management was still running things when I left. Customer support was there, players were being paid out etc. So what is my fault here, exactly? Should I have predicted the future? I did not know what was told to me were lies until afterwards. That added with the fact that I was not running any Bitcointalk campaigns for them for over 3 years before the site went down, I do not really think I owed Bitcointalk specifically any response after I left BitDice. For clarity, let's recall that most communication towards investors happened over Discord, not Bitcointalk. Bitcointalk was very much a secondary medium of communication. A side note: I had a small discussion with an investor active in Discord yesterday and they agree that the real, concrete red flags appeared AFTER I left. EDIT: A couple of things I still want to address: - Last time Alex communicated was in May 2021 and could be considered the time new management took over
- Last time I heard from Alex I asked him how we will address investors and he said he would talk to Alan about it. Implying that investors would indeed be addressed at some point. Keep in mind this was May 2021 so not a crazy amount of time before I left BitDice.
- I kept communicating with investors because I wanted to keep them informed out of my own will.
Now that I have clarified those things, it should be pretty clear that it was not that long before I left BitDice when I still had reason to believe investors would be addressed at some point. I think this speaks for the fact that I could not come to the conclusion that BitDice was a scam and therefore I could not "warn" people during my time at BitDice which is that people here seem to have expected me to do. BitDice turned into a clear scam some time after I left them. As for what comes to how things were under new management, employees were still getting paid, customer cashouts were being handler, site was being developed (albeit a bit slowly). Thus, as far as day-to-day business is, new management seemed to be handling that part. Again, speaking for the fact that I could not make any clear assumptions that BitDice was turning into a scam. |
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I'm 50/50 on whether to support the flag or not. On 1 hand, you were just a manager and no company is going to tell an employee we are going to scam everyone. It just doesn't happen, but I am curious when you @BoXXob came to the conclusion investors were being scammed and why you didn't make a post here at least warning people?
I left BitDice around a year before the site went down. I had my own life to focus on and I did not even log into Bitcointalk for almost a year. So, at the time I left it was not clear what was happening and after that I simply wasn't around or up to date at all. As you said, nobody told me that it was going to happen and by the time I came back on the forum, BitDice was already gone. I hope you understand that when I left BitDice, they were not blatantly scamming anyone. That happened while I was gone. EDIT: Just to be clear, Bitcointalk was never the place where discussion with investors happened. I was always in pretty good terms with investors and kept them up to date in Discord. I'd consider it a pretty big shame if my personal integrity was harmed. I'd understand it if there was some kind of doubt about my own actions but I doubt anyone has reason to accuse me personally. |
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I'd just answer the questions instead of picking at my tone.
Okay? I'm really starting to agree with: Is this going to be another thread where forum member x is going to accuse for something unpopular and a group of forum police is going to start asking whatever they have in mind to harass the accused member? You people are pathetic mole in the community.
When did management change (month, year)?
I honestly do not know. To my knowledge, when Alan and Magnus appeared, Alex was still running the project but Alan and Magnus were in charge of the day-to-day. Alex only completely disappeared months or even over a year after the new people appeared. I honestly do not remember exactly though. Were these lies told to you before or after the new management took over?
I do not know what were lies and what were not on whose part. I do not know the motives of Alex and the new management and thus I cannot say who was behind the lies originally. Did the original person who hired you disappear at the same time new management took over?
I do not know whether new management took over as soon as they appeared or later and thus the timing of disappearance with regards to this is unknown to me. What information was given before/during the management transition?
Just that they are in charge of the day-to-day. Nothing else was discussed on this matter. Did anyone give you a reason why management changed when it did?
No. EDIT: Because, as I said, it was not clear in the beginning that they are indeed new management. Did you question old management about the transition, what was the answer?
I do not remember. I may have asked a question or two but I don't remember. Keep in mind that to my knowledge nothing had changed as far as management goes for a while and it was only after Alex never appeared again when it was clear that management likely had changed. Did you question new management about the transition, what was the answer?
The new management still kept updating website and Alan even made some reports to investors and kept me believing they were going to address investors when the site started doing better. However, I departed from BitDice much over a year before the site went completely down. I think you are being a bit crazy about how much of "due diligence" and employee is supposed to do. After all, when I initially joined, it was a successful business and they kept improving just enough that it was never crystal clear that they planned to scam investors. Although I was very reluctant to address your concerns, they are valid questions but unfortunately I cannot give very valuable information because I was not kept in the loop of the ultimate plans as I have tried to already make clear. |
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Also, is it possible to tinker the tool to provide the number of posts made per day?
This can help CMs get accounts that make posts in only 3–2 days per round.
Yes, it could support such a feature. However, there would need to be actual interest in the project for me to invest much more time. I do have some plans of improving it overall to be able to support more features. Since you're offering to manage bounty you can explore and develop it in your campaign this is actually a good tool to add when you are offering developers to manage their marketing. This is the plan. |
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I do not appreciate your tone and you're still making quite a bit of assumptions. However, I will answer a few questions. I have been a part of a Discord server where BitDice ICO investors have done their own investigation and their conclusion was that Alex is some kind of an abbreviation of an Eastern European name. Alex was the old management. Alan_N and magnus were the new management and I believe investors found some sign that they might be Eastern European aswell but those names don't sound Eastern European. Keep in mind that these are the usernames that they used when communicating with investors aswell and they never introduced themselves by any other names. The only indication I personally got that they might be Eastern European is that Alex sometimes (maybe accidentally) typed in cyrillic letters. Next, Alex conducted the ICO. Which you would know if you had done your research into the matter. I was never given information about any change in management. Alex never told us he was stepping down and then he disappeared. The rest of your questions I do not have answers for. You talking about due diligence and what not when I've told you I was plain and simply an employee who managed their bitcointalk campaigns as well as handled customer support. Before BitDice had an ICO, they had ran a successful casino for years and had paid out winnings to the tune of hundreds of bitcoins in singular withdrawals. Nobody, including myself, could have suspected that there were ill intentions behind the ICO. This is as far as I will go with explaining things to you considering you are asking questions that you could have found out by doing your own due diligence. I've always been very transparent discussing issues regarding BitDice and your accusatory tone towards me personally is unfounded. EDIT: For full disclosure, "Alan_N" did use another username called "Val" which I only now recalled |
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Also, is it possible to tinker the tool to provide the number of posts made per day?
This can help CMs get accounts that make posts in only 3–2 days per round.
Yes, it could support such a feature. However, there would need to be actual interest in the project for me to invest much more time. I do have some plans of improving it overall to be able to support more features. |
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When the site was still under management of Alex, I believe there was a genuine idea to improve the site. What happened that caused them to neglect investors? I do not now. I think ICO money was initially planned to be spent to improve the site. Or atleast they made it seem like that. The release of new versions of the site, new games being added etc. speak for that. That's quite literally all I know. Why would they have kept me informed how they spend the money? I would have suspected something if they had given me more details.
I don’t consider their update as enough improvements considering how huge money they collected during ICO. They measly added some mediocre game and revamped their UI/UX for more than a year of waiting IIRC then they stop on that especially when the token price is dumping hard. Bitdice is heavily defended here despite many valid concern against the progress of the casino which in fact already stable before they even begin their ICO. They become slower to develop after they got the money. I don't consider it either. As I said, maybe it was just their way of making it seem like they were actually trying. Defending BitDice doesn't make sense. They did horribly to everyone. I am not defending them in the slightest. EDIT: I am just here trying to say I wasn't part of any decision-making and I was not privy to information regarding their ultimate plans. I always told investors' feelings very clearly to the management. They were very well aware about how investors felt but I think they just didn't care. |
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I have been watching this thread for some time, curious to see the outcome as the case seems to be so large and yet unresolved and not talked about. Nobody has abandoned the project.
And yet, mid 2023 shows an abandoned project with an expired ssl certificate. Early 2020 and this is mid 2023, three years is a long time. At the time of the post you quoted, the project was not abandoned. The reason I defended the project is that, as everyone who was present at the time, recall the site even released a new version, added games etc. Things that could have improved the site. What was not clear, however, was that they had no intention of making investors whole. I did not know this when I defended them.
I have no doubt about it. It's a logical explanation. BoXXoB, is just a campaign manager and there are no way for a campaign manager to know what goes in the management. A management can keep their employees in dark or spread misinformation to them. Exactly. I handled customer support and managed Bitcointalk campaigns. There is no reason for management to keep me in the loop if they were planning something like this. You must surely have at least an idea of where the money went? I do not and I do not know the identities of the management. Even the person who originally hired me literally disappeared. I am also pretty sure the new management used made-up names. You're making quite big assumptions by saying I "surely" have an idea about that. It's hard to believe that he has no idea about how the ICO raise was spent, what decisions the business owner was making, and so on. When the site was still under management of Alex, I believe there was a genuine idea to improve the site. What happened that caused them to neglect investors? I do not now. I think ICO money was initially planned to be spent to improve the site. Or atleast they made it seem like that. The release of new versions of the site, new games being added etc. speak for that. That's quite literally all I know. Why would they have kept me informed how they spend the money? I would have suspected something if they had given me more details. EDIT: Consider for a moment the fact that I was simply an employee. Thus, I do not think your allegations and assumptions make a whole lot of sense. EDIT2: Regarding business decisions, the same lies about improving the site, quarterly reports making a comeback "soon" etc. were told to me same as everyone else. |
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I have been watching this thread for some time, curious to see the outcome as the case seems to be so large and yet unresolved and not talked about. Nobody has abandoned the project.
And yet, mid 2023 shows an abandoned project with an expired ssl certificate. The reason for my post comes as BoXXoB is offering campaign management services. I'm not sure how many users believe that BoXXoB is innocent in this matter, and I am personally not looking to get further involved other than highlighting this arise of offering campaign services, though if people who are victim in this case believe that BoXXoB's trust is in question due to the BitDice ICO, then I recommend looking at this flag by joksim299. I've supported it only because I believe that BoXXoB's trust is in question until there is resolution on his involvement in this matter. I will only respond to this by saying that the same lies that BitDice told investors, they told the same to the support staff (me). At the time of the post you quoted, the project was not abandoned. The reason I defended the project is that, as everyone who was present at the time, recall the site even released a new version, added games etc. Things that could have improved the site. What was not clear, however, was that they had no intention of making investors whole. I did not know this when I defended them. I will put more emphasis on the point that they lied to me aswell. |
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Thanks for bringing this up. I've been looking to clear this up. I am very sad about how BitDice betrayed everyone. Including myself. I defended them in good faith until it was clear that they were not going to do investors any good. I facilitated discussion between management and investors as well as management and players to the best of my ability. However, since ownership of BitDice changed, little was being done for investors although I was very vocal with new management about how displeased the investors are. I took it upon myself to keep investors updated when nobody else did so. It is sad what happened but I will not let my association with BitDice tarnish my reputation. After I left BitDice at February 2022 things went even worse and I heard from players that in my absence support took a real dive in quality and eventually this year they went completely down apparently scamming players also. The BitDice I joined way back was not the BitDice it turned into. Thank you for reading. EDIT: grammar |
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Hello BoX!
I'm glad to see you back in the forum.
For the projects and companies out there. I do recommend his service as I've worked with him for a long time and you'll be assured that your campaigns and management will be at the right hand if you'll hire him. Don't hesitate to contact and inquire on him.
Thank you for your kind words. I figured it was time for me to make a comeback after a pretty long hiatus. I had to take a break when BitDice went down, I was quite disappointed how the new management actually ended up doing things. For the interested, I've also released a kind of a tool for other campaign managers and myself to use: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456485 |
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Your wishes have been heard. Now post count is calculated based on how many posts were actually made. In the case below, round start time was manually specified to be one week before current time which is why it shows start post count, activity and merit as unknown. This is intended behavior.  Still, the bounty managers have to check the quality of the post and sections the participants are posting because there are sections where the signature is disabled and there are campaigns where the manager instructs their participants to post more on specific sections. Still, a very good tool for big participants hope to see this being used by managers, bounty management is not an easy task Of course. For now that is the case. |
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Your wishes have been heard. Now post count is calculated based on how many posts were actually made. In the case below, round start time was manually specified to be one week before current time which is why it shows start post count, activity and merit as unknown. This is intended behavior. |
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Building a good campaign management tool has become a serious challenge. But your concerns are correct and at this time, it is required to manually check deleted posts and adjust them. But the idea is that the CSV file that is generated from the program can be easily modified.
This sounds like complicating the whole thing because, in addition to using the tool, managers have to check manually. I believe that you should count posts in a certain period, and not just by the number of posts. That way you would skip worrying about deleted posts from the past. Otherwise, how to automatically check the quality of posts, especially at a time when the use of AI is quite popular? I agree. I just haven't had time to perfect everything yet and not every functionality I've got planned is there yet. But criticism is welcome and the reason this thread is here. |
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