A question outside of our Q/A and discussion: Is this investor chat group still open? Can anyone join?
I think you are being a bit crazy about how much of "due diligence" and employee is supposed to do. After all, when I initially joined, it was a successful business and they kept improving just enough that it was never crystal clear that they planned to scam investors.
I think at the very least that your negligence poses a risk to anyone that is participating in your campaigns in the future. If you are unable to tell when a business is showing red flags, and you are even defending a failing business who is fabricating reports, has lost their founder without a trace, raised $10m+ and no one knows where it went, etc...then the fact is that you do not make a good campaign manager. Due diligence and protecting those who participate in your campaigns is a part of your job title. That's why I supported the flag against you and have no intentions of removing it.
If you look at recent signature campaign cases, the moment a casino has proven one single malpractice, the signature campaign manager has closed the campaign and cut ties. You did not do anything similar. You departed yourself, left investors/bitcointalk with no word warnings/statements as to why people should be vigilant about BitDice, and even defended them at some stages, giving false hope to investors. It's the opposite of what you should have done.
Although I was very reluctant to address your concerns, they are valid questions but unfortunately I cannot give very valuable information because I was not kept in the loop of the ultimate plans as I have tried to already make clear.
I do believe you have valuable information to offer, like emails, chat logs and blockchain information about your payments. "I don't remember" in a world where information and communication is recorded every day is just too hard to accept.
Back to the Q/A
I'd just answer the questions instead of picking at my tone.
Okay? I'm really starting to agree with:
Is this going to be another thread where forum member x is going to accuse for something unpopular and a group of forum police is going to start asking whatever they have in mind to harass the accused member? You people are pathetic mole in the community.
I don't really appreciate being indirectly called a pathetic mole. I think that quote doesn't apply to me because I am asking genuine questions about your recollection of events and involvement in the business. This isn't a witch hunt, it's a genuine line of questioning. While I'm not invested in this situation, I find it odd that over $10m-$100m has vamoosed and no one is asking questions. I am only asking more questions because the answers that are being provided are only making me more and more curious. In your case, you have an obligation to answer questions because you worked for them. You are innocent until proven guilty, of course...and I am in no way trying to make you the center of the situation. I am only trying to get as much information as possible so that I'm no longer curious, allow you to move onward, and maybe help people use the information to pursue this further.
When did management change (month, year)?
I honestly do not know. To my knowledge, when Alan and Magnus appeared, Alex was still running the project but Alan and Magnus were in charge of the day-to-day. Alex only completely disappeared months or even over a year after the new people appeared. I honestly do not remember exactly though.
If Alan and Magnus started handling the day-to-day, then you would have been paid by them and communicated with them, right? As you (being a campaign manager) would have been a part of the day to day costs. So, when was the date that this occurred? If you truly don't remember then just check your chat/email logs and your bitcoin wallet against the day that Alan and Magnus started paying you instead of Alex.
Were these lies told to you before or after the new management took over?
I do not know what were lies and what were not on whose part. I do not know the motives of Alex and the new management and thus I cannot say who was behind the lies originally.
So you know that you were told lies, yet you can't distinguish what the lies were? So, what lies specifically were you referring to here, and who told you these lies?:
I will only respond to this by saying that the same lies that BitDice told investors, they told the same to the support staff (me).
Answering this will help victims distinguish when things started to go wrong and who was under management/around when they started to go wrong. From there pieces can be put together as to why it went wrong.
Did the original person who hired you disappear at the same time new management took over?
I do not know whether new management took over as soon as they appeared or later and thus the timing of disappearance with regards to this is unknown to me.
This raises many questions, but I'll boil it into three simple ones:
- So you never had a direct line of communication with old management?
- Did the same person pay you even during management changes disappeared?
- Who paid you during your employment?
What information was given before/during the management transition?
Just that they are in charge of the day-to-day. Nothing else was discussed on this matter.
What month and year was this? If you can't remember, check the chat/email log where you were told about it.
Did anyone give you a reason why management changed when it did?
No. EDIT: Because, as I said, it was not clear in the beginning that they are indeed new management.
To confirm:
Neither old or new management made any sort of announcement or gave any kind of information that the business would be changing management at any stage, to you or investors, other than when new management took over the day to day?
Also, a new question:
If you were just a bounty/campaign manager, why did you continue to defend the business by communicating with investors for them, despite these obvious irregularities/red flags and lack of communication on their end?
Did you question old management about the transition, what was the answer?
I do not remember. I may have asked a question or two but I don't remember. Keep in mind that to my knowledge nothing had changed as far as management goes for a while and it was only after Alex never appeared again when it was clear that management likely had changed.
Repeated question: What were the month/year of this all happening?
Also, don't you have any emails or chat logs to be able to help to refresh your memory?
Did you question new management about the transition, what was the answer?
The new management still kept updating website and Alan even made some reports to investors and kept me believing they were going to address investors when the site started doing better. However, I departed from BitDice much over a year before the site went completely down.
Can you timeline these two sentences? For example:
Approximately MONTH YEAR Alex was clearly not in the picture anymore and Alan even made some reports to investors and kept me believing they were going to address investors when the site started doing better. Then, approximately MONTH YEAR I departed from BitDice, and approximately MONTH YEAR the site went completely down.
That might help to understand that at the old management (Alex) clearly disappearing was what lead BitDice to fall. It also then raises the question as to whether or not it was because old management took the funds and left new management with limited resources, or if old management left new management with the resources and they were not capable of following the plan/did not use the funds responsibly. You're free to leave an opinion on that though I'm not asking you the latter directly.
