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1201  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Using Electrum via Proxy on: October 08, 2020, 05:45:04 AM
--snip--
I have bitcoind and lnd already installed. Just need to figure out the wallet situation and download a block explorer; I already planned on using btcpayserver Smiley.
--snip--

nbxplore is a prereq for btcpayserver, otherwise you don't need your own block explorer (and, eventough the name contains the word xplore, it's not a real block explorer, merely an utxo tracker) Wink
But for the rest it looks like you're on the right track!

bitcoind + lnd (or c-lightning) + nbxplore + btcpayserver

This setup will allow you to create custom invoices, and do automatic billing aswell... And, there's a free plugin for wordpress+woocommerce Smiley

If you use the xpub generated by wasabi, you can directly coinjoin from wasabi's gui and have a reasonable amount of privacy (meaning: it'll be very, very, very hard for anybody to detect how much btc you're actually holding, and it'll be very, very, very hard for anybody to link the coinjoined btc in your wallet to your identity). If you're afraid a hacker will get his/her hands on your xpub and nullify your coinjoins, you could always opt for 2 wallets (like i said in my previous post): one for receiving funds, then move your funds to a second wallet and coinjoin over there. If a hacker ever gets his hands on your xpub, it'll be the xpub from your first (receiving) wallet, and not the xpub from the wallet where your funds were coinjoined.
Instead of coinjoining, you could also send funds from the first wallet to a mixer, and chose an address generated by the second wallet as the mixer's output.

Good luck! If you have specific questions about the bitcoind + lnd + nbxplore + btcpayserver + apache/nginx/... + wordpress + woocommerce + ... setup => don't hesitate to ask! I'm a c-lightning fan myself, but i've recently done the rest of the setup.
1202  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Using Electrum via Proxy on: October 07, 2020, 01:25:49 PM
For my use case, I am trying to determine the level of privacy that is actually necessary.

FYI, I am building a website and would like to have the capacity to accept BTC and lightning network payments. Not sure if that changes anything, but the main factors I am looking for are safety, privacy, and efficiency. With that in mind, do you think going through the extra hurdles to get electrum up and running is worth it? Or is it just not worth the extra effort? I plan on moving the coins to a hardware wallet most of the time anyways, so this would just be for sending/receiving and temporary short-term storage. I thought that having electrum available on multiple devices might prove beneficial, but maybe I am mistaken or overvaluing the utility it provides? I already have Wasabi downloaded, and am very close to just using that and calling it a day.

As for Discord, yes I am aware it is not the most privacy savvy. However, I do have 2fa enable and take the necessary precautions that are available to protect myself. I have no problems hanging out on this Bitcoin talk forum, however, I assume I will be much less active on here and check it much less frequently than I would a discord server.


Well, this might change things a little bit... Yes..
A couple follow up questions:
  • Is it a clearnet website
  • Will you be using a shopping script (woocommerce, opencart, prestashop,...)
  • What will be the level of automation (will you be generating addresses/ln invoices manually, or will your shop be handling all this accouting?)
  • What level of anonimity are you requiring: protection against a $5 wrench attack, protecting yourself from the IRS (or any other tax authority) or selling bitcoins in a country where owning cryptocurrencys is so illegal you'll end up in jail

If it's a clearnet site with shopping script and automatic accounting, i'd probably go for bitcoind + c-lightning + nbxplore + btcpayserver.

You'll need to think the anonimity aspect completely trough tough... I mean, if it's a clearnet site, you're already pretty exposed as it is... You have a host that can keep logs (or you've rented a dedicated box/vps), you have purchased a domain name,...
People will be able to link deposit addresses to your domain/ip/..., they'll need to be able to open channels to your lightning wallet aswell.
If you want automatic accounting, you'll need to derive addresses from an xpub (btcpayserver does this for you), if a hacker gets his hands on this xpub, he'll be able to derive all past and future deposit addresses presented to all your clients (he won't be able to rob them tough).

Without knowing the full picture, it's hard to give advice, but if you're running a clearnet shop, and you want a reasonable amount of privacy, i guess you might be best off creating 2 wasabi wallets, you export the xpub from the first one and import it into btcpayserver, after a couple ln channels have closed you move funds to this wallet aswell. After a while you move your funds from the first wallet to the second one and then do a coinjoin, or you use a mixer between the first and the second wallet... This *should* be enough to protect you from a $5 wrench attack.

Other setups are possible too, but the flow, the level of expertise and the amount of time required to setup/maintain setups will increase almost exponentially if you start messing around with bulletproof hosting, hidden services, i2p, lightningd over tor, bitcoind over tor,... In case you need these kinds of setups, i'd probably tell you to hire a security expert and let him/her help you set things up, and teach you how to maintain everything...
1203  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Using Electrum via Proxy on: October 07, 2020, 12:11:21 PM
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A bit off-topic, but does Wasabi support ARM devices? I don't see single mention about it on their github or their documentation.

As for X forwarding problem, you could use VNC as alternative, even though it demands higher bandwidth.

I didn't check if it was arm compatible tbh... But apparently, there are problems with dependencies:
https://github.com/zkSNACKs/WalletWasabi/issues/2189

I just (wrongfully) assumed you'd be able to run wasabi on an rpi...

So, basically linux or windows on x64 or mac
1204  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: Winsshi Bitcointalk airdrop reward program on: October 07, 2020, 07:31:53 AM
Have you read this pinned post:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3953664.0

Quote
Incentivizing posting within one or several threads via low effort tasks (e.g. signups or proof of participation for liking, following, subscribing, retweeting, tweeting a single tweet, joining a channel or group, etc.) is not allowed as it falls under the "no altcoin giveaways" rule

It's not a proper quote, since that topic is locked...
1205  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Cost per transaction on Bitcoin? on: October 07, 2020, 06:47:41 AM
So, the absolute, ultimate minimum energy cost for 144 blocks would be 4.25 Million USD. That's ~$30.000/block.
This does not include the fact you'd have to buy 1,25 million ASIC's, and these calculations are for the newest asic on the market, and only paying 4 cents/kwh!!!!
Wow. Thank you so much for taking the time to help me. I appreciate it.
Now i need to find out how many tx can fit in a block. I'm sure that won't be too hard.
Thanks again.

Also, for this part of your question, there's a huge difference between the amount of transactions that *could* theoretically fit into one block, the amount of transactions on average (all times) or the amount of transactions on average (using a sliding window).

I've just quickly used https://coinb.in/#fees without actually overthinking this... And it seems the absolute minimum tx size would be ~130 bytes. I'm assuming this is without witness data.
The maximum amount of tx data in one block (without witness data) is still 1Mb, so one block could theoretically fit ~7700 transactions. But these transactions would be 1 input - 1 output, all segwit transactions, nothing special, block 100% full. This is far from realistic.

If you look at https://blockstream.info/, you see that the average amount of transactions in one block is ~2500-2700.

Do realise that a lot of assumptions were made in my last 2 posts... I mean: you have no idear about the mix of ASIC's that currently make up the network, you have no idear about the power prices these asic farms pay and you're estimating the amount of transactions in a block... So your end result is basically a guesstimation....
1206  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Cost per transaction on Bitcoin? on: October 07, 2020, 05:45:40 AM
Hi all, I am ding some research and and trying to work out the possible raw cost of a transaction on Bitcoin. I guess I would assume blocks were full. I am interested in the raw cost.
Does anyone know of any resources that could help?
Thank you

That would be close to impossible because you have no clue about the amounts and types of ASIC's currently mining.

You can estimate the current network's total hashrate tough:
Hashrate = Difficulty * 2**32 / 600

So

Hashrate : 19298087186262 * 2^32 /600

Hashrate = 138.141.088.900.586.584.146 h/s
Hashrate = 138.141.088.900.586.584 kh/s
Hashrate = 138.141.088.900.587 Mh/s
Hashrate = 138.141.088.900 Gh/s
Hashrate = 138.141.089 Th/s
Hashrate = 138.141 Ph/s
Hashrate = 138 Eh/s

Now, you can estimate what would be a reasonable mix of asic's that would result in a total hashrate of 138 Eh/s, look up their power draw, multiply by what you think would be the average power price... Add the cost of the ASIC's, S&H, shelves, cooling, wiring, human labour,...

You could, just for fun, estimate the BARE MINIMUM.... A HUUUUUUUUGE underestimation tough!
Bitmain's latest ASIC is the S19 Pro, 110 Th/s, $2407 (not including customs, S&H, PSU,...). It draws 3500 Watt at the wall.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/263492/electricity-prices-in-selected-countries/
Tells us china's power price is 8 cent/Kwu. But let's assume most mining farms are located at places where they pay 4 cents/kwu (i've heared a rumour they're usually locating these things at places with excess power)

You'd need 1.255.829 S19 pro's to reach 138 Eh/s.
They'd draw 4.395.401.500 Watt at the wall.

So, each day, they'd use 105.489.636 Kwu (105 Gw). With a cost of 4,25 Million USD.

So, the absolute, ultimate minimum energy cost for 144 blocks would be 4.25 Million USD. That's ~$30.000/block.
This does not include the fact you'd have to buy 1,25 million ASIC's, and these calculations are for the newest asic on the market, and only paying 4 cents/kwh!!!!
1207  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Using Electrum via Proxy on: October 06, 2020, 01:28:14 PM
about Wasabi: it would probably fit best on your desktop, eventough you could run it on a rPi aswell (you'd have to make sure x forewarding is enabled tough...).

Hidden-service related, wasabi is basically "the same" as if you'd run tor on your local machine and configured electrum to use your local tor proxy. The big difference is that wasabi actually eliminates the need to run tor seperately (tor is just part of wasabi's setup), a second "plus" on wasabi's side is that routing packets over tor is default for wasabi, and not default for electrum (so if you start wasabi for the first time, tor will already be enabled, whilst if you run electrum for the first time without adding command line parameters or additional config, it won't route it's packages over tor).
You could configure wasabi not to route it's packages over the tor network, and you can configure electrum to route it's packages over the tor network... There's just a difference in default behaviour. And since the default behaviour of wasabi is to route it's packages over tor, it has tor included in it's bundle, making your life a little bit easyer Wink

Now, don't get me wrong... I use electrum all the time, it's a great wallet (eventough you have to make sure you're downloading it from the correct repo, and double check the signature), it's just that wasabi comes with better privacy features out of the box. This doesn't make wasabi safer, faster or more feature-rich... It just makes it more private without having to jump trough a couple of extra hoops).

btw: a big plus on electrum's side is that you can also run it as a daemon (without gui). That way it's easyer to run on your rPi without having to mess with x forewarding... And electrum is also older, so it *should* theoretically be vetted more than wasabi... But both wallets are open-source, and both have been vetted by the community... So i wouldn't worry about this to much...
1208  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Using Electrum via Proxy on: October 06, 2020, 07:47:47 AM
I quickly browsed this topic, and the RaspiBolt documentation... And i just wanted to ask: is there any point in making your setup so complicated?
The more layers you add, the more devices, the more daemons, the more firewalls, proxy's, certificates,... The bigger the odds you mess up and expose yourself...

You could just run tor on your local machine, then connect electrum trough your local tor proxy and have really good privacy.
Sure, you'll be using public electrum nodes, but you'd be connecting over tor.

An other option would be to switch to wasabi, which has the tor bundle built-in, and it has an out-of-the-box coinjoin application, which makes it easy to gain privacy after receiving funds.

I know this isn't the answer to your question, i just want to tell you there might be an easyer sollution for many use-cases instead of configuring a pi as electrs node, making it a hidden service and connecting a local electrum client to your electrs node over tor...

This being said, i'd probably start troubleshooting by:
  • testing out your electrs node over the clearnet... If it doesn't work over the clearnet, you know it'll never work as a hidden service
  • disabling your firewall to test for firewall issues. If it works when you disable your firewall service, but doesn't when you re-enable it, it's a firewall issue
  • "service tor status". Is it active? Maybe even setup a second hidden service like nginx, so you have an "easy" testcase
  • try connecting to your electrs hidden service using telnet (yes, telnet is still a thing... I use it quite often when debugging a setup)
  • letting somebody else test your electrs node, connecting trough your hidden service. IF somebody else can use your hidden service, but you cannot, it's a client issue... Afterwards, you can just remove tor's keyfiles and let it generate new ones, the tester will never be able to expose you this way

PS/EDIT: I gave you post a merit, please stick around on bitcointalk... We need more people that are discussing topic like this one, and less people that come here to spam ico's Smiley
1209  Economy / Invites & Accounts / Re: 🔥✅【DOUBLE YOUR BITCOIN INSTANTLY】【CRYPTOCLEANER.CC INVITE CODES】✅🔥 on: October 05, 2020, 02:46:37 PM
After looking at the website and his method I would say it's an innovative way to Scam masses through Alt account Spamming  Grin
Yes, all this now looks quite strange !
but for me the most important thing is to buy bitcoin coins at cheap prices if this is true

So, you don't care if it's a scam, as long as the product the scammer is offering is dirt cheap...

Could i intrest you in an IMAGINARY brand new dodge RAM? You seem like the kind of guy that would be interested in this deal:
It's a fourth generation brand new, IMAGINARY car, 0 miles on the gauge... Only $1000...
Dirt cheap for a dodge, but remember: IF you send me $1000, you'll get NOTHING in return... Just a vague image in your head of a dodge ram that only costs $1000.

In case you're interested: you can find my address in my profile... Either BTC or ETH will do... You don't need to contact me in advance, no escrow needed because if you send me the money, you'll get NOTHING in return... So basically, i'm giving you the same deal as the OP of this thread, but i'm being upfront about it  Grin

PS: don't actually send me money... This post is merely a way of putting the OP in some perspective... It doesn't matter if the OP promises you 10 BTC when you pay him 1 BTC, or 100 BTC if you pay him 1 BTC: it doesn't matter, you'll always end up scammed for 1 BTC because the OP will not send you any "dirty" funds after you pay him...
1210  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Free Raffle - 1] Redeemed 1-LTC Lealana Silver Coin on: October 02, 2020, 01:23:18 PM
99 - mocacinno
1211  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to add bitcoin as payment gateway? on: October 02, 2020, 01:07:39 PM
I actually helped with the technical details of setting up https://www.merel.mobi for somebody i know from the crypto community.

We picked my btcpayserver as a primary backend, with on-chain payments going directly to the owner's wallet and off-chain payments made to me (and forewarded to the owner afterwards).

We use "BTCPay for WooCommerce" as a primary plugin and "Nomiddleman Bitcoin and Crypto Payments for WooCommerce" as a fallback method.

"BTCPay for WooCommerce" works really good, but btcpay is a bit slow-ish... "Nomiddleman Bitcoin and Crypto Payments for WooCommerce" works like it's supposed to work, but to the enduser it looks like a non-automated platform (the QR code for payments is just shown on the invoice, while the btcpay plugin actually sends the user to a payment gateway where he's shown a qr code, a timer,...). Also, for "Nomiddleman Bitcoin and Crypto Payments for WooCommerce" you'll have to go into the "experimental" settings so your users get a unique payment address derived from a master public key (the default setting is having a pre-generated addresspool, one address getting picked and potentially reused)
1212  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Found an old wallet file from 3 years ago, can't open it? on: October 02, 2020, 07:30:18 AM
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Sorry can you help me understand this?  Why would loading a new wallet require a rescan?  Isn't a wallet something that stores your private key and transactions or something?  What is it that I'm rescanning?

To be honest, i don't switch wallets very often... As a matter of fact, i run a node and the wallet is still a non-HD wallet (in other words, i haven't loaded a different wallet for many, many years). I just remember the last time i found an old wallet.dat (years ago) and i tried opening it, a rescan was also triggered. But i was probably guiding you in the wrong direction when i used the word "default". I just meanth that it doesn't supprise me if a rescan is triggered when you load an older wallet. I've updated my previous post accordingly.

This being said, it's very hard to give a precise answer as to what actually triggers a rescan for me. It's been a while since i last dived into bitcoin core's code, let alone kept track of all the changes. Everything depends on versions and specific situations i guess: Which version was used to generate your wallet.dat, which version you're running now, did you change anything to your wallet since last synchronisation, which was the last blockchain height when you last opened your wallet.dat, did you open multiple wallets at the same time, which parameters did you use to open your gui, which parameters are present in your bitcoin.conf.

I know recent versions had significant changes when it comes to wallets and rescanning. For example, version 0.17 included a feature to scan the utxo db instead of rescanning, i think HD wallets became default in 0.16 (but they were introduced in 0.13). So even if i knew all the changes in core's code, it would be that easy to give a defenitive answer.

In theory, i guess you could read the code and see why a rescan was triggered in your specific case tough.

But you are right, a wallet.dat should contain keypairs, transactions and metadata (amongst some other data)

Not a real answer to your question i'm afraid...

1213  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Found an old wallet file from 3 years ago, can't open it? on: October 02, 2020, 06:55:20 AM
Well, a rescan might indeed be the reason why it took your wallet an hour to load...

Looking at the lines you pasted, it looks like you loaded a different wallet.dat than "default" (initially, core will create a wallet in ~/.bitcoin/wallet.dat).
This is no problem whatsoever, but if you switch wallets, a rescan will be executed by default... might be executed

EDIT: i actually made a mistake, rescanning probably doesn't happen every time you load a different wallet
1214  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Found an old wallet file from 3 years ago, can't open it? on: October 02, 2020, 06:23:51 AM
I synced the entire blockchain, 350gig.  Or did you mean a different kind of sync?

A new block is added every 10 minutes (on average). If you synced your wallet 3 years ago, and you opened it today, it would have to download (3 * 365 * 24 * 6 ) = ~157680 blocks.

So, just to say, it's not because you sync'ed your wallet when you created it, it'll stay sync'ed forever.

If this is not the case, you can always look in your debug.log. Since you seem to be running a *nix OS, you can find the debug.log in ~/.bitcoin/
1215  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Found an old wallet file from 3 years ago, can't open it? on: October 02, 2020, 05:54:37 AM


Nah it is an encrypted 4 gig file that can only be mounted with veracrypt with a strong password.  I keep it on my local machine and it backs up to my server computer in the other room which has a Raid5 configuration in Ubuntu using openZFS.  I also encrypt that mount file with a different password with 7z and send backups to my brother every month over syncthing.  Overall, it is "safe", but it taking so long to open the wallet file had me worried.  It has over $5000 worth of bitcoin in it.

Side Question, any idea why it took Bitcoin Core so long to open the file?  It must have taken at least an hour...

bitcoin core needs to sync all blocks since you last opened it... So it probably took over an hour to do this. In the background it downloaded, verified and parsed all blocks since the last time you let it sync completely, updating your utxo db in the meantime.

IF you want to avoid this in the future, you'll probably want to switch to an SPV wallet. Such a wallet only downloads the block headers.
1216  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Found an old wallet file from 3 years ago, can't open it? on: October 02, 2020, 05:51:20 AM
[Solved] I'm dumb, bitcoin core eventually opened the wallet after an hour.  No password/passphrase though.  But, I keep this wallet in an encrypted mount with veracrypt so it is kinda safe.

I should move all the BTC in this wallet to a new wallet though right?  A safer one?  Any suggestions?

This is kind of tricky... If there's even a small chance somebody had access to your unencrypted wallet, moving your funds would be wise... However, it's not like you saved your wallet file on cloud storage, right?

As long as you're 100% certain nobody could have had access to your wallet, you should be ok... On the other hand: creating a new (encrypted) wallet only takes a couple of minutes, the weekend is allmost there (and average transaction fees usually drop during the weekend) so moving your funds to a new wallet would probably only cost you a little bit in fees.

If you hold a lot of funds, go for a ledger or a trezor, or properly learn how to create paper wallets, or do an airgapped setup...
1217  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: scam alert, do not use freewallet.org on: September 30, 2020, 09:46:13 AM
As I know, Freewallet BNB address is completely different from what is seen on the image: https://[Suspicious link removed]/3kRfu7o

Now, this is my theory about your account:

You have made 23 posts (that were not hidden for me).
You made one post in december 2018, 2 bursts in januari 2019 (totalling 8 posts). I guess these posts were either made by an account seller, or they were made in a futile attempt to reach junior member rank so your shilling attempts would have been taken more seriously by other members (but the introduction of the merit system was just in time... januari 2018 IIRC).

At this point it was clear you would always be stuck with a newbie rank, so you started to shill for freewallet anyways (as was your initial purpose): out of the 14 posts you made after januari 2019, 10 were made to protect freewallet. A lot of times when freewallet faced a serious accusation you popped up to defend them evenough the evidence was usually pretty clear.

All other posts made by this account seem like "fluff" to me, just basic shatter to fill the post history so it isn't too obvious you're a freewallet shill.

So... Tell me the truth... Is this theory correct?

Now, freewallet... I'll be honest: when one of your sockpuppets enters a thread to defend you, i usually feel this action is contraproductive for your case. If you need a shill/alt/sockpuppet coming in to defend you and say positive things about your service in the thirth person, my gut usually tells me you have something to hide... Same here: i would have given you the benefit of the doubt (innocent untill proven guilty), but since the shill army has entered the discussion, i'm inclined to add more value to the accuser's claim... Nothing was proven tough...
1218  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Best Hardware wallet on: September 30, 2020, 05:44:13 AM
I actually own both... And i can only say that they're both user-friendly.

Both have a nice gui (trezor is actually having a beta phase for their wallet application instead of their wallet website), both can be used together with electrum.

The big differences (IMHO):

ledger requires an app for each coin to be installed on the device. A nano S has enough space to hold like 5-15 apps (some apps share code, so you can fit more of them on the limited space, other apps are really big, so there is no fixed number). Trezor works differently, no apps are installed on the device's memory, but some altcoins are a bit trickyer to "install" a wallet for. So, if you're going to be holding a limited amount of rare altcoins or tokens, a Nano S *might* be easyer to operate, if you're sticking to btc and a very few top-altcoins, a trezor might be better... but i'd look at this on a case-by-case scenario...

Ledger is closed source, trezor is open source. It's security-by-obscurity vs peer review...


So, it basically boils down to the price... If you're money-conteous, i'd pick the cheapest one, since i'd trust both of them to do the job... They both have some drawbacks, but nothing that should keep you awake at night
1219  Other / Off-topic / Re: Acceleration Request on: September 29, 2020, 01:16:49 PM
Hey everyone,
Wanted to a little BTC transaction yesterday but I didn't put enough fee, unfortunately. As little favor I'm asking if anyone here can do a little acceleration on this transaction. https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/5e05bce2cc45554286defd89037155cd8f11df472955e9cd0b4f38a32a191cb7
Note that I already used cyber-hub.pw, bitaccelerate.com and confirmtxn.com

It's an opt-in RBF tx! Your wallet gui should enable you to increase the fee...

Nonetheless, I pushed it to antpool, they usually give an accelerated tx a slightly higher priority, but don't expect miracles.


@9sat/byte, your fee is to low to use viabtc's free tx accelerator.

Those tools you used are worthless. They just rebroadcast your transaction, but if your original transaction was broadcasted less than 2 weeks ago, and the mempool wasn't overflowing, they add nothing...

At this moment, you have a couple options:
  • it's an opt-in RBF transaction, you should be able to "bump" the fee to a decent level
  • Wait. A 9 sat/byte fee will usually be confirmed after a couple of days... Depending on the state of the mempool
  • Do a CPFP
  • Pay a miner to include your tx in the block he's trying to solve. Do NOT hire some random guy contacting you trough PM tough!!! only use big, established mining pools!!! Viabtc for example
1220  Economy / Invites & Accounts / Re: 🔥✅【DOUBLE YOUR BITCOIN INSTANTLY】【CRYPTOCLEANER.CC INVITE CODES】✅🔥 on: September 29, 2020, 12:20:41 PM

So, you're selling codes to a fishy site using an autobuy platform while all your reviews are given by newbie accounts with 0 trust and allmost 0 history.

What could possibly go wrong  Roll Eyes
In case somebody is missing the obvious sarcasm: you could get scammed at the autobuy platform, OR the OP could go for a double whammy and let you pay to receive an invite to a site that was setup to scam people...

There is no way a malicious user is going to sell you "dirty" BTC for 30-50% off, he'll just run it trough a couple mixers/coinjoins/exchange for XMR/hotwallets him/herself and only lose 5-10% instead.

For everybody reading this topic: if something looks to good to be true, it usually is... Don't get scammed...

but at the moment it works and I can buy bitcoin cheaper .
this is the most important thing for me

I don't believe you purchased an "invite", have an account on this site or purchased any "dirty" bitcoin... I do believe that you're either the owner of this site, or a shill that's being payed to promote this site.

Why else would you create an account on this forum and make your very first post a post dedicated to criticizing the first non-shill that spoke up in this thread.

But what i believe isn't even relevant to this thread... It's about you (the owner) being able to proof you're a real service. And so far, you've shown that your service is "to good to be true, so it probably is", it's built on the pretense a hacker is smart enough to steal BTC but not smart enough to use a mixer, and you've clearly employed (or generated) a bunch of alts or shills to continuously bump your thread and make it look like a real business.
All these things are big, shiny, red flags...
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