Evidence?
I posted it earlier: Yes, I remember that. Some person on the Internet saying that some other unnamed person said he did something hardly constitutes evidence. I'm not even doubting that optimized asm code could make a big difference. Just not sure how to know whether this is real or not. Rumors and FUD are rampant, so it is just hard to tell. You don't see a lot of evidence for it in the hash rate. Currently a 20 H/sec computer mines about 2 coins a day, worth about $1, and uses very roughly 30c of electricity (15c/kwh rate). So it is still quite profitable to mine this coin using a regular computer and the standard miner. It does require extreme patience though, with no pools available yet. |
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1) GPU mineable with de facto standard miners (sgminer, cgminer, ccminer, etc)
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So, the question is: are there any coders available/willing for task 1?  'cause all the others are worthless without it ...
You are slightly confused. This coin was conceived as a CPU-minable coin specifically to depart from the model of large mining farms and centralized pools. It is the intent of "egalitarian mining" (one of the key design goals -- see first post) that ordinary users can compete on equal footing with specialized rigs, returning us to Satoshi's original model of a decentralized network. To be realistic, CPU coins do not have a great track record of staying that way. It remains to be seen whether this coin will be any different. The designers tried. Did they succeed? Only time will tell. If it turns out the design succeeds, and the coin remains CPU-mineable, it will likely never appeal to specialized "miner community" to which you allude. Instead the necessary mining will be done by ordinary users, with the mining rewards paid back to the users themselves. Either way, it will be interesting to see what happens. What's about botnets? They will kill this coin easily. We don't really know how that will turn out longer term, since no coin up to now has remained CPU mineable for very long. People speculate about this (sometimes with a FUD agenda, but not always). Let's look to history. Those coins that did remain CPU mineable for a long time (primecoin being a prime example) didn't seem to get "killed" by botnets. They're still alive and kicking, though certainly not massively successful. Bitcoin definitely was is mined by botnets, and wasn't killed it at all, but that was only after it was already GPU mineable, so the hash power from botnets was questionable. I think the best answer is we don't know. |
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Botnets aren't problem now. The main problem is a private hi-performance miner  Evidence? Can we implement multi-algo in MRO? For CPU and GPU.
Sure anything can be changed (with a hard fork). You'd have to convince the developers to release it and convince the community to accept it. |
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1) GPU mineable with de facto standard miners (sgminer, cgminer, ccminer, etc)
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So, the question is: are there any coders available/willing for task 1? 'cause all the others are worthless without it ...
You are slightly confused. This coin was conceived as a CPU-minable coin specifically to depart from the model of large mining farms and centralized pools. It is the intent of "egalitarian mining" (one of the key design goals -- see first post) that ordinary users can compete on equal footing with specialized rigs, returning us to Satoshi's original model of a decentralized network. To be realistic, CPU coins do not have a great track record of staying that way. It remains to be seen whether this coin will be any different. The designers tried. Did they succeed? Only time will tell. If it turns out the design succeeds, and the coin remains CPU-mineable, it will likely never appeal to specialized "miner community" to which you allude. Instead the necessary mining will be done by ordinary users, with the mining rewards paid back to the users themselves. Either way, it will be interesting to see what happens. |
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Assuming you didn't do anything really stupid, that's quite a gap. It could mean that the author implemented it pretty badly. What CPU is it, perhaps I can improve the performance? 24 x Intel Xeon L5639 @ 2.13GHz (2 sockets). I checked hash rate with http://198.199.79.100 statistics Okay, er... wut? 24 x Intel Xeon L5639 -- 24 processors? Nah, he probably meant cores; typo (2 sockets) -- Wait, if he's running two Xeon L5639s... that would be 8 physical cores and 16 threads. Where is 24 coming from? Looks like it is 6 physical cores x 2 cpus = 12 physical cores --> 24 threads. Yes, I incorrectly said. 24 threads Oops, yeah, they are hexa-core. Now it makes sense. Anyway, I compiled one just for you, to test. Tell me the hashrate. WARNING: No one else use this. If you're not using a Xeon L5639, its behavior is undefined. Meaning I have no clue what's going to happen - maybe it will crash, maybe it will cause the FBI to raid your house, or maybe it will make your computer explode. Just don't.https://ottrbutt.com/tmp/cpuminer-multi-win64-05-15-2014-git-XEON-L5639.ziphttps://ottrbutt.com/tmp/cpuminer-multi-win64-05-15-2014-git-XEON-L5639.zip.sigI use linux Oh, I see. Did you compile it with -O3 and -march=native? It wouldn't matter with the original cpuminer, because most of its speed-critical code is handled in assembly, but it probably matters for this. If you want even more of a speedup, see what you can do with the OpenSSL lib, and link with your custom-built one. I don't think it uses openssl for the CryptoNight hashing but -march certainly might make a difference, or possibly other compiler options (though -O3 should be pretty good). |
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Can we move the coupon discussion to one of the two available forums (one for free coupons, one for those who wants to sell)? Re S2, can someone post about how noisy they are (preferably in db, but also in relative terms as well) to evaluate possible location for units? Same room, basement, garage, another building.  Readings in db from two units running in a garage were ~70db at a distance of ~18" and ~68db at a distance of ~3m. How fast are your fans running? Mine run at about 1900-2100 and it is nowhere near that loud. Maybe your ambient is higher? |
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Does this work with a regular node? It wasn't clear me how to do that, if it is possible. |
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Is this the effect of PoW-BCHAIN-BASED that the Hashrate is slowed down strongly?
First day i had 45kh/s, yesterday 40k and today 30k.
Pretty big differences.
Without looking closely at the code, from the discussion posted here, I would expect this as the block chain gets bigger. It should flatten out once the chain is much larger than cache. |
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Now offering 0% escrow service. Tips accepted.
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Hmm... what is the main difference between CryptoNight and CryptoNote algorithms? Which one is better?
Cryptonote is not an algorithm, it is the name of the group that claims to have developed the technology (can't be verified but I have no reason to doubt it). CryptoNight is the name of hash algorithm used for proof-of-work in the cryptonote-derived coins (except Boolberry, which is going in another directly). |
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Don't trade with Lalamido.
Seems to be the guy, stoolen my money. He sold bcn to kneim the same day I was f*cked and registered just the day before stealing my money.
Today he wanted to get my btc for trading first. And no escrow because "he has his own trading rules".
It may be a mistake, but he seems to be a scammer.
You could always escrow with me. Whether or not I call out the 80% ninja premine, at least you know you won't lose your money. Sure. The first candidate in my escrow list now is smooth though BCN was 80% premined!! =) The second one is abit2slo. But newbies don't like escrows, they prefer to get btc and disappear =) Red flags are useful. Scammer: "No I won't escrow even if you pay the fee" Smart trader: "Okay, then, get lost." |
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Don't trade with Lalamido.
Seems to be the guy, stoolen my money. He sold bcn to kneim the same day I was f*cked and registered just the day before stealing my money.
Today he wanted to get my btc for trading first. And no escrow because "he has his own trading rules".
It may be a mistake, but he seems to be a scammer.
You could always escrow with me. Whether or not I call out the 80% ninja premine, at least you know you won't lose your money. |
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1000 for 0.1 btc. Min 1000. You send first.
Added Please change to 1250 for 0.1 BTC. Price is now 0.0008 |
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1000 for 0.1 btc. Min 1000. You send first.
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Just donated 18 MRO Hopefully it come soon, we deeply need it ! Received. MRO total 5457.000000000000 |
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I've just sent 12 MRO Hopefully we can have a nice GUI soon ! It's a real hassle to transfer money when you copy past an adress from bitcointalk into the window command ! Received. Total MRO now 1622 |
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New escrowed seller order. I guess there are some people who don't like the exchange. Fair enough.
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Would love to set my miners at this pool have about 25 machines, but cannot seem to get ubuntu 12.04 to run this software for some reason... still stuck cannot figure out why....
anyone successfully installed on 12.04? if so please get me the commands to make this work.
What are your errors? i have alot of errors when i do make -j4 But i just checked i installed boost 1.55 but it still showing #define BOOST_LIB_VERSION "1_48" How do i remove bost 1.48 completely and install it fresh because that might be the cause. and if i have 32 threads on my cpu. would my make -j32 be that?? confused Did you compile boost from source? If so rm -rf bitmonero/build
make -j4 BOOST_ROOT=/path/to/boost1.55
If you installed it with apt-get, try sudo apt-get remove libboost-all-dev libboost-dev
sudo apt-get autoremove
More issues. I don't know if it is necessary to build boost with mpi (though if you are going to install it system wide that might be a good idea) but if so you need to add mpi to the apt-get install earlier in the script. |
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Still seeing some trades on here.
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Now i feel sad about continueing, i don't want it to be a race.
There is no race. We've already said that multiple solutions if they are useful, available within a reasonable amount of time, and meet the requirements will get a share of the bounty. |
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