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12301  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 07, 2019, 01:23:51 AM
I will summerise below the important parts.

1. Nutildah linked to the list as evidence of bobs paying out people he promised but because I listed it I am to blame LOL
sorry that is sneaky and you know it. You omitted nutildahs post exactly for that reason. That is clearly what he is implying.
It means little in the full context of the trust abuse anyway. Which was changed within 10 mins max anyway as soon as he pointed out the date issue.
JJG trying to make something out of nothing and omitting nutildah of all responsibility. Sure we should have known better than to accept any reference that shit stain presented. Anyway means little was just a nice little bit of icing on the very solid and robust cake.

We can agree to disagree.  I provided my understanding a few times already, and it seems to me that you are engaged in ongoing twist attempts of matters and attributing some further purpose to my post beyond my already several times explanation.

2. JJG is scared to debate the entire debacle from its roots one on one. Because we will crush his arguments and excuses. As per usual. JJG is a fucking non achieving loser. Where are his achievements that made one scratch of difference??
So makes excuses WHY NOT to debate with us one on one. There is no other reason not to meet our challenge.
Now stfu and debate or move on pussy.
/ end.

I already responded to this, and you might be making progress if you see an end to this line of your begging for interaction with me on a dead topic.
12302  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 07, 2019, 12:05:51 AM
I'm sorry for touching the poop Sad I have cross-contaminated threads with fecal coliform.

I submit myself to JJG for passive (or aggressive) punishment. Up to him. I'm good either way  Wink

#absolutehomo

oh no.  I am not sure what would be worse.  Hanging out with Bob or hanging out with The-One-Above-All.




Edit (after reading micgoose post):

Or worse yet, hanging out with a flock of micgeese.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
12303  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 06, 2019, 11:56:20 PM
loads of garbage so I just pick out the important parts.

JJG claim he EDITED OUT nutildahs post because .....errr reasons. LOL yeah like you wanted to make it appear I just pulled that list up on my own.

Surely, you appear to be an expert at attempting to confuse matters.  Even I had to go look back at my post (linked here) to attempt to figure out what the fuck you are talking about.

Anyhow, even though I already explained, I will state it again, just to clarify, again.

I was responding to goofball you. Not Nutildah.  The only reason that I kept any reference to Nutildah in that particular post was to show that you were responding to him. 

In any event it is a BIG so fucking what?  You are the diptwat who posted the list and made dumbass claims about those folks being paid off.  My reposting of your post is accurate, you infantile baboon.   Roll Eyes

He presented that LIST in his link as evidence of bob paying up after he says he will.

It's your post of the list, so fuck off with your claims of "he" being responsible.  You posted the list you diptwat.


That is the point of him posting it there. We had no knowledge of any list or any interest.

Part of the point. Yes.  You had no knowledge of shit, and you were just making shit up, and as soon as you thought that you had information, you posted the list and drew incorrect inferences and expected others to accept your misrepresentations about the list that you posted.


It was only when we noticed several names on that list were leaving red trust that it stood out.

It stood out that you wanted to be a drama queen.. more of a drama queen for any possible reason, and the list provided you a hook in order that you could make up bullshit.   Roll Eyes  Regarding your red trust, are you trying to proclaim that you don't deserve red trust?  You are lucky not to be banned for your various ongoing stupid.

Nutildahs post implied and was presented as evidence of bob being trustworthy??? Why nutildah post a list of people bob has said he would pay or shout for a party as proof of being trustworthy if it had not happened.

He is implying that.

Who cares?  You are getting  lost in irrelevancies.  You are already lost, and you are getting more lost, if that is possible?  Go figure.  The lost becoming more lost.. that's a concept for  you.   Shocked Shocked

You deleted nutildahs post because you want it to appear that I randomly made that up. FUCKING SNEAKY

I already responded to this.. but anyhow I will state one more time, that I was responding to your posting of the list, and Nutildah was largely irrelevant to the point.  You posted the list, diptwat.  Repeat... repeat.. repeat after me. 

"I, The-One-Above-All, am a diptwat.  I posted the list." 

(You see?  Doesn't that feel better to take responsibility for your own actions?)  You will thank me later.   Wink


You don't also note that nutildah does not even deny it he just says that was a year earlier.

I note that a few times I said that I could give less than two ratt's asses about Nutildah.  So there is that.


I NOTICE ALSO YOU did not note that was correct after nutildah pointed it out IMMEDIATELY and quote the old version your quote does not reflect that post since about 5 mins after it was made. Since that was done with in minutes you must have been lurking there.

Sounds like you are "on to something," here.








NOT.


 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
I haven't played around with that little NEGATIVE communicative instrument for a while.



So your ONLY valid gripe could be we should not have taken nutildahs implication as true without investigating it. THAT IS IT.

I did not have any "gripe" whether valid or not.  I was just pointing out how retarded you were for posting a list and making dumbass, invalid and wrong (am I being redundant?  that's fine.  A little repetition might help the numbskull to absorb the points.. I doubt it, but never losing hope.) inferences from such list.

Nothing deceptive about it. Names on the LIST NUTILDAH linked to were appearing on trust list leaving red BEFORE we mentioned it.

You have been doing a great investigation here.  Revealing all kinds of important connections, so it seems... (For a visual, I am holding my breath, here).




Since it was noted it was a year before then that already nulled the CONNECTION with any possible financial reward. You are pretending that our post still implies this.

I am pretending that you posted a list.







and.......









wait for it......








wait for it......









You did.

That is sneaky too since about 5 mins after it was said to be a year earlier it was ALTERED to not even make that possible connection. Hence the time machine post and the adaption on our post.

Sure.  You are in some kind of a fantasy machine.  May as well be a time machine.

Do you have a selfie pic? or link for your time machine?

It does not AT ALL invalidate the rest of the thread.

Of course, you and your team are completely valid.  That is why everyone around here loves you and your purported team so much.

That is based upon independently verifiable observable instances. If you want to claim this I will create a thread where I will pull you weak ass arguments and excuses to pieces ... YES OR NO want that thread HuhHuh?? YES OR NO?

Seems like I already said no.  Did I not?

You are like a fat girl who wants to go on a date, and won't stop asking.   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I bet we get a lot of excuse from JJG now and he will not have a thread just me and him debating the original trust abuse from bbl. JUST YOU AND ME JJG you sneaky little scammer supporting pleb.

I barely want to hang out with you in public for short periods of having to.  Why would I want to make any private date with you?  That sounds like absolutely no fun at all.  Like torture.   Cry Cry

What you give or do not give a fuck about is of no concern of mine you non achieving fucking loser.

Now you are starting to make me feel bad about myself, and what I have accomplished so far in life.  Stop it. 




You're nothing here on this board and nothing would have been any different if you had never joined. Got it you servile scammers supporting pleb??

That's a real low blow, The-One-Above-All, especially coming from someone like yourself.

 Cry Cry Cry

Good now that is sorted out you sneaky peace of shit.

You seem to be getting upset with me.  Can we start over?

We can all discuss bitcoins price direction. Not listen to your slanted and sneaky accounts of events where you like to prevent the full context being presented.

I am sure that members would appreciate your input about bitcoin's price movements.

Anyway come to a thread YOU AND ME JJG you waste of board space and debate the entire debacle from the start or stfu you sneaky cunt.

Seems to me that we have already debated this to oblivion.  Is it just me, or are we already devolving into repetitions, here?

I'm not really seeing anything drastic (upwards bitcoin price) until well into new year now.

Could be.  Who knows?  The new year is only 3 weeks away, so prices could go up, they could go down or they might go sideways for the rest of the year and maybe even longer?  Maybe we could watch the walls, together?  I am feeling a bit nauseous.... but hey.. a little sacrifice for our little buddy, BTC?
12304  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 06, 2019, 07:03:42 PM

There is likely a governmental conspiracy here to inspire suicidal actions of WO Bitcoin HODLers.
12305  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 06, 2019, 06:56:33 PM
It's a wordy-off.

One wordy battling another wordy.   Shocked
12306  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 06, 2019, 06:40:35 PM
JJG cut nutildahs post away for extra sneakyness.

Good luck defending your stupid-ass lil selfie in this thread, where you cannot delete all and any substantive post that goes against your lil propaganda bullshit schemes.

You will be lucky if you are not completely deleted here if you are just cluttering this thread with irrelevant nonsense and also ongoing misrepresentations of facts (and made up "facts") that are based on sketchy logic (if any), which is your MO in your various self-moderated propaganda spreading threads.

LOL like 99% of our posts are not made in a self moderated environment you sneaky scumbag.

You are just making shit up.  Are you talking about this thread, or some other place that I post?  I don't create my own threads, you deceptive false-equivalency attempting dumbass.

Why edit out nutildahs post then???

You had already been deleting posts in that thread, so why the fuck would I want to post a response in that thread?

yes because you see he is implying that bob followed through on his promise to pay that list out. Not that it really matters at all to the central point that bob was in the wrong originally.

With my post, I was not even responding about Nutildah, you deceptive diptwat.  I was pointing out that you were a deceptive idiot to post a list of names and assert that they were paid by Bob... For anyone that has been around for very long, they would be able to recognize that your facts of payments based on a list were deceptive at best, and I suppose the level of their deceptiveness made them somewhat humorous.... So I am guilty of attempting to be a comic at your expense.

Good luck defending the fact you are a moron. Why cut away his post when he brought that posts as a reference for bob being reliable financially? post  the entire thing you twat we never heard of that list before he presented it as evidence of presumably someone following through on their financial promise.

I could give two shits about what Nutildah was attempting to proclaim, you are the diptwat that started the whole mess anyhow, so who cares if you had been trying to latch onto anything that you could in order to attempt to make a case, when you had no case from the start, beyond vague induendos, at best.

What you think we randomly found that list and used it as evidence ?? nutildah posted it , then moments after we made our post he never said it was incorrect he said it was 1 year not 2 days ago. We accepted that. He never said actually bob never really paid them out or paid for their party place. Got it.

1) look at you trying to bring credibility to your dipwat actions by asserting that you are part of a BIGGER entity... who fucking cares about your lame-ass royal "we" assertions.

2) Again, I give two shits about any of the supposed truth of any possible substantive allegations that you are making against either Bob or Nutildah.  I just care that you look like a dumbass for posting such a list without even attempting to perform one scintilla of an investigation which would have likely quickly established that you were misleading when you posted that list, you intentionally deceptive twit.


Sorry but that all looks very off topic and inaccurate mr  non achieving servile dreg.

Don't even have a clue about what you are proclaiming here.

Can you present some substantive posts that have been deleted by us...looks like a false allegation. The only posts deleted were those that did not adhere to the rule in the initial post.

Don't try to get me to do any work that I do not want to do.  I am too busy thinking about important things such as our recent little bitcoin price pumpening (merely $200 up to $7,619 and then back down to the starting point of $7,435-ish) and also fitting in a bit of time to research into a funny meme regarding how ongoingly lamingly retarded you continue to be.  In other words,  your admissions about your deleting actions speak for themselves.

Anyway thanks for the warm welcome. This thread appears Unmoderated. I mean just glancing through it there seems no structure at all it seems more like a free for all. However sure we will be keeping to the topic and only replying to strictly other peoples comments.

I doubt that you are really welcome, but do whatever the fuck you like while you are able to.

I mean I can create a thread for you to come and explain you allegations if you like? Anything we originally presented as a statement of fact will be indeed a fact.

Do you think that I give too many shits about anything that you have to say, or even any topic that you might create.  I might be interested, from time to time, if there are some lulz in there.. but whatever, no body really got time for that.



Unless you can prove otherwise.

Who put you in charge of assigning burdens of proof?  Including what I am supposedly burdened to prove?  Your moma?

In other words, I don't have any burden to prove anything to you about either what I said or any other irrelevant points that you raised up to now.

Now stfu and get back to discussing the movement of bitcoin you trumped up little twat mr non achiever. Never heard of you in all these years. Precisely because you never achieved anything LOL

Anyway guys bitcoins price bouncing up a little hopefully... good for for all those legendary members that still need to rely on the btc dust from their sig spamming.

Great to see all the old faces faeces in here.

Wow!!!!! I am surprised that you even recognized that we are here to talk about bitcoin.  Great.  Maybe you are tiny lil bit smarter and able to focus on relevancies than I had previously suspected?  Perhaps?  Perhaps?  I doubt it, but perhaps.
12307  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 06, 2019, 05:26:28 PM
JJG cut nutildahs post away for extra sneakyness.

Good luck defending your stupid-ass lil selfie in this thread, where you cannot delete all and any substantive post that goes against your lil propaganda bullshit schemes.  

You will be lucky if you are not completely deleted here if you are just cluttering this thread with irrelevant nonsense and also ongoing misrepresentations of facts (and made up "facts") that are based on sketchy logic (if any), which is your MO in your various self-moderated propaganda spreading threads.

TLDR:  In other words, as shown by your own lame/disingenuous behaviors, the only "sneaky" one is you.
12308  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 06, 2019, 05:20:04 PM
^
Damn I almost thought that fool was writing in here  Roll Eyes



He’s talking about that ass hole The-One-Above-All in Meta JJG.

me too...  Wink
12309  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 06, 2019, 04:50:26 PM
Bitcoin is bearish for the first time before the halving. Is it because the futures market is surpressing the price?

Something I have been thinking about for a while now...

You must be in the same pie in the sky, detached from reality, fantasyland thinking as jupiter9 and _javi_ then, cAPSLOCK...    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


See my earlier responses to such nonsense.  I won't requote it here to reduce wall of text sizenings, per my recent unwilling subliminal brainwashenings.
12310  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 06, 2019, 04:41:56 PM
As evidenced below:  thanks for paying me in the last two days, Bob... that is why we are such buddy, buddies......  Kiss Kiss  
#NoHomo.

I don't want to sound like a queer or nuthin, but, I took you off my ignore list just now... finally.

Please PLEASE PLEASE try to work on editing your missives for less verbosity.  Kiss



You are breaking Bob's opsec.

Something not right about that.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
12311  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 06, 2019, 04:27:25 PM
^
Damn I almost thought that fool was writing in here  Roll Eyes

12312  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 06, 2019, 04:12:24 PM

I suppose that there are some generous donations, and of course scammers taking bitcoins, too.

Andreas Antonopolis is a decent example.  He was saying that he was Bitcoin poor near the top of the 2017 price rise, but then received a BIG donation.. someone (might have been Roger Ver triggered) opened a donation fund for Andreas and then one BIG donor dwarfed all of the rest of the donors..and added up to a real large donation.  So, yeah, sometimes luck can happen in those places in which preparation meets opportunities.

I did not know the case of Andreas, what I mentioned earlier is that in the first years of the forum, when someone did a good job or provided a good solution to the forum, he received some coins as a reward, I have read it several times in threads and old comments of the forum, this is now difficult to happen, I would dare to say impossible.

We are going to let Bitcoin go its way and surprise us in a few years.

It is safer for this to happen than what I have said before. Wink

Overall, I think that you are correct about the earliest of bitcoin adopters throwing around coins as if they did not have much if any value, and largely it was true, they did not have a lot of value - so part of the solution, including ideas of liquidity was that adoption had to be increased and/or expanded, otherwise the HODLers of coins would have no place to either cash out or to spend their coins.

Might also show that some of the real BIG coin HODLers may not have been as generous as people thought them to be, including Roger Ver, who held a shitload of coins in the early days, that were worth millions on paper, but he did not have many places to be able to cash them out.

One thing about Roger that makes his seem as such an idiot to so many of the other bitcoin HODLers is that he seems to be stuck on that same mode of thinking - and doubled down on stagnant views that seem to have been applicable in the past.  To the extent that he is genuine and has not been bought off or coerced by some kind of government entity for his ongoing attacks on bitcoin, he also turned his own perspective into some kind of taking matters personally, but then his attack vector also turned into a way for him to make money off of dumb and unsound principles.. so i supposed he doubled down on dumb to some degree, and could take a while to part him from his money because he has found ways to make some of the dumb short-term profitable. 

Regarding BTC price movement, I keep hoping to see bitcoin's price move up while altcoins are stagnant or even going down, and that does not seem to be happening, so these kinds of abilities to continue to hang onto the coattails of bitcoin seem confusing to me - even while I understand that whatever next UPpity BTC price move we get could also continue to allow some of the shitcoins to pump more than bitcoin, and long term BTC HODLers might well be able to continue to understand that it is better to just stay with bitcoin, there are likely going to be a lot of folks continuing to be tempted into various shitcoins (which ones will do better is still hard to figure out and which ones that might go completely and quickly bust, or "tulips" like searing likes to say, is still in the to-be-determined category).
12313  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 06, 2019, 07:25:00 AM
^^
Every time they talk about these prices I get sick, it is torture, because no one told me about bitcoin at that time ... Cry

What's your bitcoin origin story? I cannot recall if you said.

You heard about bitcoin in mid 2017?  or earlier?

I never heard about Bitcoin before September 2017,

And one day (December 2018) by chance doing a Bitcoin search I found the Wall Observer thread and here I am since then.

Gosh... I had been thinking that you had been active here longer than that, but o.k. fair enough.  You surely have contributed a lot of decent content, so I am sure members have appreciated that.


Some plan that I will have to elaborate in 2020 to accumulate a little more BTC, even if it is a small monthly amount, this year it has been impossible to do it, all the veterinary hospitalizations of Maine Coon have consumed all my resources in cash.

Although I am optimistic and I do not rule out that one day an anonymous veteran member falls in love with one of my threads and sends me a few hundred BTC for the work done, as was done previously in the forum. (Let me dream) Wink

Thx, JJG

I suppose that there are some generous donations, and of course scammers taking bitcoins, too.

Andreas Antonopolis is a decent example.  He was saying that he was Bitcoin poor near the top of the 2017 price rise, but then received a BIG donation.. someone (might have been Roger Ver triggered) opened a donation fund for Andreas and then one BIG donor dwarfed all of the rest of the donors..and added up to a real large donation.  So, yeah, sometimes luck can happen in those places in which preparation meets opportunities.
12314  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 06, 2019, 07:01:02 AM
Because of these fails, I didn't sell even a satoshi at 20K or 14K this year, which turned against me again. This is in short my lamentable story. Very, very bad luck, like in my whole life.

You think about Bitcoin entirely the wrong way.  They're imaginary, valueless timestamps.  They do not even exist.  There is no profit whatsoever 'guaranteed' about such a thing.  The only thing guaranteed about Keynesian, artificial scarcity currencies - as opposed to physical commodity money - is that they start at a value of zero and always return there again once the confidence game scam implodes.  

The actual value of a timestamp is zero, worthless.  So in terms of 'making money', the only logical way you can think about Bitcoin is being the equivalent of a smash and grab robbery.  If you manage to break the glass and run out the door with a single cent of profit before the shop owner shoots you, or worse, a negative balance sheet, then you came out ahead with more than you deserved in the first place.

Tell me more roach......  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



No don't.  As if you know anything worth learning about bitcoin.   Roll Eyes

Sure,you bought some bitcoin, but then you sold them all at $700-ish (in 2016), and then you for some reason you thought that bitfinex and bitcoin were the same thing and you erroneously thought that bitfinex was going down and or scamming the whole system (a bit unclear about your nonsense muddled brain, to the extent you have one).  

Point is that you have been subsequently waiting for the BTC price to go back down so that you can buy back in.

With your butt-hurt resentments about bitcoin and its price (and your seemingly ongoing lack of understanding of it and unwillingness to learn), you really are not in an advice-giving position about how to "think about bitcoin."
12315  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 06, 2019, 06:37:38 AM
^^
Every time they talk about these prices I get sick, it is torture, because no one told me about bitcoin at that time ... Cry

What's your bitcoin origin story? I cannot recall if you said.

You heard about bitcoin in mid 2017?  or earlier?

I never heard about Bitcoin before September 2017, this is when I bought, so Bitcoin was priced at +/- $ 3,600
When I arrived in Bitcointalk I already had my small portion of BTC, so I thought it was the right time to register in the forum, but I did not participate in the forum, I do not like the forums, there was no thread or section of my interest (stupid of my part).
During this time I used to catch the knife in the falls and it worked several times, until they caught me, the blow was strong, after this I became a 100/100 hodler, I have never sold a satoshi.
And one day (December 2018) by chance doing a Bitcoin search I found the Wall Observer thread and here I am since then.
Since 2008 I was quite involved in the purchase and sale of domains, it did not go wrong, but it would have been better if I had known this forum, things that happen in life.

This is a quick summary of my relationship with Bitcoin, for these reasons when I read conversations with prices of $ 600 my nervous system is disturbed and when I see that Bob sometimes talks about $ 2.50 / BTC, I have to go to the terrace to reassure my brain that is constantly coming back to 2008 mode Cheesy, It's too late for me, I can never have a decent amount of Bitcoin. Cry

I have a very similar exerience. I went full in at prices $4600-4800 in 2017. This happened after one awful trade in August, when I decided that the bull run is over and sold everything at $2700, one day before the first mega pump above $3K. It was very unfortunate since the price returned at 3K but only after I bought back what I had with double amount of fiat (i.e. all my savings). Not that I wanted to trade, but I was afraid of the coming fork, which threatened to destroy the price for a long time. After that, in November at the day of the fork, I sold half of my stash because of the dump I feared. Instead, the fork was cancelled, there was a bull run and I bought back at a higher price again. Unfortunately at this time kraken didn't fill the existing buying orders below my rebuying point and I lost something more because of it.

Finally, I sold half of my stash in December in the day I've read an article how manipulators will use futures to dump the price. It was clear to me that soon the futures will kill the bull run. The unfortunate thing is that I sold at 13K and few hours later the same day the price shoot up to 17K. I was very frustrated and bought back at the first dip to 15K. This was my last sale. Needless to say I've become a hardcore hodler since then.

All this is very unfortunate, because I've missed so many trains. I've heard about Bitcoin in 2015 when the price was 300$. I didn't even know how the price was forming and thought at that time that the miners offer this price to the buyers (crazy, I know). At that time I decided to build  gpu rigs to mine Ethereum and invested 10K euro. Although I missed the Ethereum bull runs, I made some profit of 15K euro, which I constantly changed between USDT and Bitcoin because of the crashes in 2017. Because of these fails, I didn't sell even a satoshi at 20K or 14K this year, which turned against me again. This is in short my lamentable story. Very, very bad luck, like in my whole life. Some times I think because of me Bitcoin entered this bear market, as if someone above doesn't want me to be rich. My only weapon is the unique stubborness which helped my entire life to endure all bad things and have some professional success.

Sorry about your various bad trades, and that is probably part of the problem with trying to second guess short term price moves, yet many of us know that a DCA strategy that might also supplement with buying on dips and HODLing would have better chances of building your wealth in bitcoin (even if valued in dollars) over the longer term.  Of course, it is still a gamble to buy and HODL, and surely there are a lot of folks trying to talk us into selling on a regular basis, and seems to be to be a lot better to just ride through some of the downfalls in prices continue to buy regularly and try to buy on dips to the extent feasible but don't get too obsessed with missing certain price points that end up happening.  Surely it is a lot easier to say that "I should have sold a bit more and bought back lower" and then end up getting screwed when you actually try it.

Anyhow, hopefully you learned some lessons from the bad trades, yet I do tend to see that it takes quite a bit for gamblers to stop with their inclinations to gamble, once they have experimented with gambling, and maybe even worse if they have made some money through gambling, then they have a harder time stopping their bad habits.
12316  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 06, 2019, 06:15:09 AM
^^
Every time they talk about these prices I get sick, it is torture, because no one told me about bitcoin at that time ... Cry

What's your bitcoin origin story? I cannot recall if you said.

You heard about bitcoin in mid 2017?  or earlier?

I never heard about Bitcoin before September 2017,

Very difficult to help the matter, you know.

I heard about the name bitcoin before November 2013, and I had a tab reserved in my browser to research into it, but for some reason I was not motivated to research and I was not coming across the matter incidentally, so I am even a bit unclear in my own head regarding what my thoughts were about it, but when I read a few of the details in mid-to-late November 2013 (sparked by communication from a person who had incidentally made a decent amount of money in the two run ups of 2013), I was hooked almost immediately.. strange as that might seem. 

You got somewhat lucky, if you can call it that, by finding out before the BIGGER surge, but it might not be so much luck, if you are not quite ready to dedicate funds to it... because you are both trying to figure it out while the price is shooting UP like crazy... so maybe I was fortunate to find out about bitcoin at the top of a price splurge, and to buy all the way down.  Hard to really know, for sure... even though it ended up working out for both of us, right?  You have had less time to devote to it, but you are likely still going to be o.k. as long as you just keep plugging away at it.




this is when I bought, so Bitcoin was priced at +/- $ 3,600

Perhaps buying and attempting to learn at the same time... information going both ways but the price going up soon thereafter.

When I arrived in Bitcointalk I already had my small portion of BTC, so I thought it was the right time to register in the forum, but I did not participate in the forum, I do not like the forums, there was no thread or section of my interest (stupid of my part).

The same person who told me about his experiences in bitcoin in November 2013 ended up telling me about the WO thread in February 2014, so I only participated in WO thread for several years before venturing out to other parts of this forum.  I found this thread to be a bit overwhelming, and that part really has not changed over the years even though some of the active members have changed.. and probably the thread has become even more prolific, even though there was decent substance in 2014, too.

During this time I used to catch the knife in the falls and it worked several times, until they caught me, the blow was strong, after this I became a 100/100 hodler, I have never sold a satoshi.

Well, it seems that you might still be largely in accumulation stage. If your portfolio consistently gets to 5x or 10x or higher levels, you should not be totally averse to shaving off some profits here and there... hopefully.

And one day (December 2018) by chance doing a Bitcoin search I found the Wall Observer thread and here I am since then.

Gosh... I had been thinking that you had been active here longer than that, but o.k. fair enough.  You surely have contributed a lot of decent content, so I am sure members have appreciated that.

Since 2008 I was quite involved in the purchase and sale of domains, it did not go wrong, but it would have been better if I had known this forum, things that happen in life.

Actually, i have had some periods in life that I was very obsessed and busy with other kinds of activities, including my life in 2008-2013, so it is almost as if I would NOT have even had time for bitcoin, even if I would have heard about it.  That is a strange thing with certain things, sometimes we are not ready to absorb it. 

I can really relate to folks who completely shrug their shoulders at bitcoin or even wave it off as being something that is outside of their interest or knowledge, but sometimes if they hear a bit more about it, they seed will be planted and they will start to explore, more and more and more.   Sometimes just a need for a spark.

This is a quick summary of my relationship with Bitcoin, for these reasons when I read conversations with prices of $ 600 my nervous system is disturbed

Yep, it surely did float at those low prices for a decently long periods of time .. I mean I already listed the floating areas of $250, then $350 then $600, then $1,000 and then $2000, and you probably kind of know the supra $3,000 floating areas, and a lot of uncertainties at each point whether it was going to go down or up.  You cannot kick yourself for not knowing or not realizing.... even though I do sometimes search my own memory banks, and it just seems that I was just busy with other things and ended up not being sufficiently informed about bitcoin in order to be interested in it..  that is the punchline.

and when I see that Bob sometimes talks about $ 2.50 / BTC, I have to go to the terrace to reassure my brain that is constantly coming back to 2008 mode Cheesy, It's too late for me, I can never have a decent amount of Bitcoin. Cry


Well yeah.. there are a few of the double digit and single digit folks that are hard for me to understand too, and when I think about the whole pre 2013 situation, it kind of scares me anyhow regarding some of the more difficult ways to get into bitcoin, and probably that contributed to some of the reasons that so many people would not look into the matter further.  I mean, at least when I got in there was Coinbase that helped to make it a lot less strange regarding how to buy a little here and there.. and sure Circle and Gemini came along too.. as well as many other avenues into bitcoin that are going to vary from country to country.
12317  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 06, 2019, 05:47:11 AM
As evidenced below:  thanks for paying me in the last two days, Bob... that is why we are such buddy, buddies......  Kiss Kiss  
#NoHomo.

I don't want to sound like a queer or nuthin, but, I took you off my ignore list just now... finally.

Please PLEASE PLEASE try to work on editing your missives for less verbosity.  Kiss

Unless it is merely coincidental, I have no plans to change my ways... hahahahaha  Good luck.

Regarding my earlier post about the diptwat, the only one blah blah blah.. I hate drawing attention to the guy or his thread, but I really resent posting in any thread in which the OP (thread owner) has a penchant for deleting posts.  

Although could be that any deleted post could be reposted in some thread in which substantive posts are not deleted.. to the extent that the deleted post has any meaning outside of the context of the thread.  

Probably the vast majority of forum members do realize that self-moderated threads on a controversial topic tend to be mere propaganda pieces, yet I suppose that there are some members who don't realize the difference between a self-moderated thread and one that is not.


As evidenced below:  thanks for paying me in the last two days, Bob... that is why we are such buddy, buddies......  Kiss Kiss 
#NoHomo.

I don't want to sound like a queer or nuthin, but, I took you off my ignore list just now... finally.

Please PLEASE PLEASE try to work on editing your missives for less verbosity.  Kiss


Are you asking gravity to not tug so much?

Exactly.
12318  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 06, 2019, 04:52:28 AM
As evidenced below:  thanks for paying me in the last two days, Bob... that is why we are such buddy, buddies......  Kiss Kiss 

#NoHomo.


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12319  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 05, 2019, 10:16:21 PM
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Bitcoin BEAM indicator

#bitcoin #btc

Live here: https://digitalik.net/btc/beam_indicator

@BitcoinEcon



https://twitter.com/digitalikNet/status/1202383513552609280?s=20

Very intresting indicator:
 
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BEAM stands for "Bitcoin Economics Adaptive Multiple" and is the result of experimenting with various indicator types and formulas for almost 2 years. Various other designs were dropped or improved until reaching a satisfying result.

BEAM may look like a typical indicator, but can also be used as a basis for an anti-cyclical investment plan for Bitcoin as well as other crypto assets whose cycle is tied to that of Bitcoin. Roughly speaking, BEAM divides the price of bitcoin at any given moment to a moving average of past prices. This makes price trends more clearly visible.


This indicator is also available in tradingview to play with:
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BEAM on TradingView
I developed BEAM in Pine Script on Tradingview.com. Recently I published “BEAM” and “BEAM Bands” there. So at Tradingview.com you can apply them to charts by clicking the Indicators button and searching for them. To apply them to Bitcoin I recommend that you enter “BNC:BLX” for displaying the “BreaveNewCoin Liquid Index for Bitcoin” chart and set the time frame to 1 day. The BLX chart shows all historical Bitcoin prices since mid 2010.



Heading into the halving within a bearish trend.. Never seen before. This is fine.

Never a boring day/month/year in Bitcoinlandia.

You call 5.5 months away from halvening "heading into?"

Do you remember the halvening in 2016 was in June?  November 2015 to May 2016 was a pretty fucking bearish time-period, if I recall correctly.


Bitcoin is bearish for the first time before the halving. Is it because the futures market is surpressing the price?


Are you an alt of _javi_?
12320  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 05, 2019, 10:11:18 PM
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You will do as I say  Kiss

When someone died, did they leave the whole flock in charge?  or just you?

 Roll Eyes
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