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12321  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MRO Monero trading thread and OTC xchg (bid 100 ask 142 last 147) on: May 07, 2014, 08:57:03 PM
All order updates posted and reported trades recorded
12322  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 07, 2014, 08:35:27 PM
As the miner is open-source now, and the difficulty chart can't be explained anyhow, the only one to ask you is how did it happen with the renaming and cloning the git.

There was no takeover. The original developer (who himself did a fork of bytecoin and around a dozen lines of code changes) was non-responsive and had disappeared. The original name had been cybersquatted all over the place (since the original developer did not even register any domain name much less create a web site), making it impossible to even create a suitably named web site. A bunch of us who didn't want to see the coin die who represented a huge share of the hash power and ownership of the coin decided to adopt it. We reached out to the original developer to participate in this community effort and he still didn't respond over 24 hours, so we decided to act to save the coin from neglect and actively work toward building the coin.

Eventually the original developer came back and now wants to work with the community. I hope you work with us as well. Let's let this one go and move forward with a great coin.





12323  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 07, 2014, 08:12:16 PM
Guys let's chill a bit:

1. The unopimized proof-of-work code had nothing to do with the monero launch or the rename. It was the same code all the way back to the original public release of the cryptonote code. It may or may not be intentional, who knows. As a programmer I can tell you it is easy to do things like that by accident if you are working quickly and once something passes unit tests, moving on to the next part of the code that needs to be implemented. All I can say is thank you to NoodleDoodle for spotting that, but this is how it is supposed to work with open source.

2. Please drop or at least tone down the paranoia about bot nets, huge server farms. Any coin that is as successful as this one (take a look at the price graph) is going to attract a lot intelligent miners. To not mine this coin is foolish, and there are plenty of people who own computers who are not foolish. We are still at around 5000 computers total which is not a "huge" anything.

Let's all work toward building Monero! We're still in the (very) early launch phase here.

12324  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MRO Monero trading thread and OTC xchg (bid 90 ask 148 last 97.1) on: May 07, 2014, 06:38:13 PM
Sorry for the delay. Finally got a bit of sleep. Will be updating this shortly.
12325  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [185 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: May 07, 2014, 10:47:56 AM
To help other p2pool ops that may be interested in sharing their merged mining income, I have dedicated addresses you can send to that I'll then convert to BTC and feed back into the pool:

DVC: 1f56VqR9ajX3K42qSaDezvKXFmruSDg1B
IXC: xaNQ54gxowcwHyxqGtFM4vwCfS84V6fmKF
NMC: N1XhWNmvGhFL145zmQGQv7Vug6mThNh1iQ

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Awesome idea. I never bothered to set up merged mining but I will do it now and send to your addresses.


12326  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 07, 2014, 10:27:44 AM
Yes, you can download a recent copy of the blockchain from OP

Highly recommended. This is much faster than waiting for the daemon to sync it.
12327  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitstamp Transaction Fee Fraud - Charging up to 1.16% transaction fee. on: May 07, 2014, 10:14:47 AM
People, please stop being dumb and suggesting retarded fixes.
The correct fix is to learn how to fucking count with more decimal places.

well tell me how would you collect a $0.001 ?

It was explained upthread. Charge the account balance 0.001, round balances down to the penny when withdrawing.

12328  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bounty for open source ByteCoin/Monero pool on: May 07, 2014, 10:03:05 AM
Sent another 498k BCN to the pool's bounty.

Received your 498K

I also received another donation of 130555.555. I don't know where that came from but I thank the contributor.

BCN total: 5728555.55500000
12329  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bounty for open source ByteCoin/Monero GUI on: May 07, 2014, 09:47:50 AM
Sent 13345 BCN

Received 13345.46695471 (!)

BCN Balance: 121345.46695471

12330  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero Economy on: May 07, 2014, 09:38:19 AM
In the short term the most important thing to do is grow the coin so even a small botnet doesn't overwhelm the currently-tiny network.

What do you mean by growing the coin ?
More miners ?

In every way. More miners, more users, more developers of services, more value, etc. There are only a limited number of botnets and they have limited size, and they have many different uses. A large enough coin can't be affected by botnets. If bitcoin were still CPU mined, it would be too large for botnets to matter. That's the goal. At least the short term goal.



12331  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bounty for open source ByteCoin/Monero pool on: May 07, 2014, 08:55:54 AM
Awesome. Thank you, BCN community.

Looking forward to this pool being completed. Will give some people who havent had much luck solo mining a way to get some coins.

However it is important that there are a number of pools soon after as everyone will mine on the pool giving it way more than 50% of the hashing power.

That is why we have specified the bounty for an open source pool implementation. This will allow many people to create pools.

12332  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MRO Monero trading thread and OTC xchg (bid 135 ask 155 last 151) on: May 07, 2014, 08:52:17 AM

mickey_miner, check your PM
12333  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MRO Monero trading thread and OTC xchg (bid 135 ask 155 last 151) on: May 07, 2014, 08:36:35 AM
Smooth has done a great job with exchange.  Everyone should give good trust rating.  we need good trust rating people crypto.  Smooth is good for Escrow.

Thank you for the kind words. I'm happy with the ratings I've gotten from the people who have dealt with me, and I hope that everyone has been happy with the service because I strive to deliver quality.

Back to trading.

12334  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero Economy on: May 07, 2014, 08:34:45 AM
This is the problem. CPU coins are always botnet raped and get lost rate quickly.
this is the main issue that needs to be solved 

But how ??

Quite simply by not worrying about it. If a coin is profitable to mine then many regular miners will come and mine it, and so will botnets.

If a coin isn't profitable to mine, then it isn't worth it for botnets either, because they can either mine something else, or use their botnet for a less risky activity.

Who else is mining the coin really makes very little difference.

There is this myth that botnets are infinitely large and free to operate and therefore you can't compete with them, but that is really quite false. Botnets are a highly scarce and valuable commodity and they will only mine what is profitable to mine.

In the short term the most important thing to do is grow the coin so even a small botnet doesn't overwhelm the currently-tiny network. At sufficient size botnets don't matter.
12335  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero Economy on: May 07, 2014, 07:36:06 AM
AFAIK monero is a fork of bytecoin that appeared months ago and no exchanges so far. They had enough time to bring it up.

No it is only about 19 days old according to the block chain.

12336  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 07, 2014, 07:07:14 AM
We need a pool , can someone set up one for us?

Pool is being developed: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=589533.0

Contribute to the bounty to encourage the developer to finish it.

12337  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 07, 2014, 07:05:59 AM
From forum.cryptonote.org:
Quote from: Catherine_Erwin
We really appreciate your interest in CryptoNote and your urge to create something worthwhile.

However, we've been following Bitcointalk discussion of Bitmonero/Monero and we're still undecided whether adding this coin as a CryptoNote implementation would be a proper decision at this time. It took us almost a weak to reach a consensus among the team, so we apologize for the delay. We do believe that the time will come for you to be added, but at the moment there is a couple of questions for you to think about:

1) If CryptoNote supports new technologies and the advent of new technological era, what is the contribution of this coin? How does it make CryptoNote technology prosper? What is that you have created?

2) Why does this coin have 2 websites, 2 official threads, 2 announcements, 2 reps? Was it worthwhile after all to use someone else's work and try to take over the control afterwards and split the community?

As you can see, for example, HoneyPenny coin in another thread on this forum proposes new ideas for the technology. Moreover, they were contacting us before the launch.

We do wish to see more CryptoNote-based coins, but hope that their creators would be more in line with our vision and keep their personal ambitions and greed low.

Please, correct me if we've got anything wrong.
That bolded statement is rich.

Yes, next time we should 80% premine instead. That might meet with their approval.


12338  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 07, 2014, 07:05:14 AM
I am either extremly unlucky or doing something wrong, been mining with around 50 for 3 days now and didnt find any block, i posted my mine.bat earlier
Quote
start /MIN bitmonerod.exe --data-dir blockchain\ --start-mining 44RkMyLBEktES1nKJuYbMRUmMQdt2nUdvinafxo3zKNaZKFJeRDDf6cNL2H4hJkRc9SsGLihoMAfEAu 8TPiDHziRUk1DfF6 --mining-threads 7

CPU usage is up, blockchain is synced but wallet refresh balance is still 0, dang -.-

Only slightly unlucky. At current difficulty with a hash rate of 50 you should get a block every two days.

12339  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 07, 2014, 07:03:40 AM
this is my favorite alt coin, but have no idea if actually trying to mine it  Cry

in windoes how do u check if actually mining it properly?


(been mining for days and found nothing)

Do show_hr in the daemon window. If it tells you a hash rate (somewhere 10-20 for most computers) then you are mining.

Do hide_hr to make it stop displaying the hash rate (you will still be mining)

12340  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 07, 2014, 07:02:45 AM
Is there a way to recover a wallet if the key/address files are intact ?

For some reason my linux wallet has a size of 0 right now (i did lose a couple of ssh sessions and forcefully killed the simplewallet process).

It should recover from just the key file if you move the data file out of the way.

I have seen an issue with not tracking unspent outputs correctly but you should still be able to recover your coins and move them to a new wallet, or it may even work 100% correctly. I think it is intended to work.
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