you guys realize that all pre-orders back in july had no power specs when originally announced You're mistaken. Also there was no competition back then. BFL torpedoed the FPGA market with their premature ASIC vaporware announcement, then further solidified their position as lead vaporware dealer with their unrealistic power simulations. Market manipulation followed up with lies and more lies. |
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The whole situation is sickening. BFL's misleading ads were still working to draw in newbs in Feb. This thing won't stop until it implodes and it won't implode until people wise up...could be awhile.  |
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He disagrees with you guys. mrb is not a troll.
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Although I have raised issues about the interest calcs being wrong, as well as what appear to be overstated amortizations on my loans, I have continued to pay the one loan I have (even made payments early) during this period of price swings. I wish the other issues would be looked at (especially since my calcs show the weekly payments to be incorrect and it looks like I am overpaying at least 1 BTC), but I will continue to pay and just never use BTCJam again until the issues are resolved. +1 |
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I can confirm that feb 2-3 orders are entered in avalon store.
Order #xxxx made on February 2, 2013. Order status: processing.
Thank you avalon, can't wait. I assume you mean they're being entered, my feb 3 order is still not there. I doubt I'm alone in this. Same. I ordered on 03-Feb. I can login to my walletbit account and see the order receipt, but logging into store.avalon-asics.com with my username "bogart" shows no orders. I also received an email confirmation on 17-April from info@store.avalon-asics.com saying that my order was received, and gives an order number #1049. I will watch for it to appear in my account, and file a ticket if I don't see it by 19-April. Can you clarify? Did you get a confirmation on Apr 17 for your Feb 3rd order? Correct...well, almost. 17-Feb is when I received the email confirmation. I mis-typed when I said "17-April". At that time, I replied that a part of the address was missing, and a few minutes later got an email "A note has been added to your order", with the details now showing the correct address. Curse you Bogart!  How'd you make Yifu respond? You must say perty please nicer than I do.  |
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did anyone get a tracking number, or any information that a unit has been sent - for batch 2 ? They're not shipping yet. They just requested FPGAs trade-ins be sent. I can confirm that feb 2-3 orders are entered in avalon store.
Order #xxxx made on February 2, 2013. Order status: processing.
Thank you avalon, can't wait. I assume you mean they're being entered, my feb 3 order is still not there. I doubt I'm alone in this. Same. I ordered on 03-Feb. I can login to my walletbit account and see the order receipt, but logging into store.avalon-asics.com with my username "bogart" shows no orders. I also received an email confirmation on 17-April from info@store.avalon-asics.com saying that my order was received, and gives an order number #1049. I will watch for it to appear in my account, and file a ticket if I don't see it by 19-April. Can you clarify? Did you get a confirmation on Apr 17 for your Feb 3rd order? I've not received any communication from Avalon for my Feb 2 order. Same. Did you also order as a guest? |
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I'll be mining on testnet. Pro. Sounds very profitable. I believe everyone else should do the same.  I of course cannot mine on testnet because...umm...it violates my religious beliefs. |
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Avalons are ugly to look at but from what i've read they seem reliable and reasonably efficient compared to any GPU rig. The first part of the quoted statement is subjective. I find Avalons to be fine looking machines. The second part of that sentence is rather silly. Avalons are not "reasonably efficient compared to any GPU rig". Avalons are an order of magnitude more efficient than the most efficient GPU rig. There's no way you could assemble anything near 66Gh/s of Bitcoin mining hardware based on GPUs and have them consume 620w. Not even close. |
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Point? They're no longer selling FPGAs, that vid is old. |
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Weird to see a market down 74% in a few days being dumped on, but I guess everyone keeps their own council.
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Will Amagi Metals ever incorporate Litecoin as a form of payment? I would gladly buy in Litecoin instead of Bitcoin since Litecoin is more resilient to price changes and has faster confirmation.
I sure hope not; what a waste of time. And that would be your Bitcoin fanboi response. Good job. Take it somewhere else. To those who haven't received your orders - I can promise you guys these guys are top notch. Just have to have a little patience for the Mints to catch up to the demand that has been created. I personally will never order from anywhere else. Thanks. ...on both counts. Not doubting they're 100% legit. I still can't bring myself to place further orders till I receive something in return though. |
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While not really surprising given the character quality of the bettors, it's refreshing to see you fellas behaving honorably. If only some of it would rub off on the company in question.
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While I can appreciate what you're trying to do, failing to make a distinction between a hardware vendor and a vaporware vendor is dangerous. By listing both BFL and Avalon as green you're steering those reading this thread to BFL as Avalon does batch shipping and is unavailable. The bottomless pit of orders BFL takes in makes it unclear how long one could potentially wait to receive a product ordered today. Avalon and BFL have both shipped products that are confirmed in the hands of end users, making them a safer bet than most. Again, safer. Not irrefutable proof they wont screw you. This is opposed to some random Easybake website registered by random people with no proof at all what they claim is true or ever will be. BFL has some issues with their new line, but they have shipped in the past, have a real office people on these forums have been to, etc. As noted this page is informational only, if you choose to use it to influence your buying decisions I am not liable for the end result. This is to gather up all speculation and fact in one spot, make your own judgement. This is largely opinion based by me, I agree. As noted any of these companies can contact me directly to clear themselves. It isnt perfect but better than letting speculation run wild and be completely confusing to everyone, and mitigate "is it a scam?" posts. BTCFPGA also shipped FPGA products, but failed miserably at transitioning to ASIC mining products, costing their investors plenty. Again, while I appreciate what you're doing, failing to differentiate between a company with actual ASIC mining hardware confirmed to be in the wild(Avalon) vs a company that's been selling pre-order vaporware endlessly for nearly a year without shipping a single chip is misleading. BFL should be blue. While they have shipped FPGAs in the past, they're not selling them now and they've shipped zero ASIC mining units. |
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as of which amount of gh/s would it make sense to solo?
this must always be a function of difficulty, amirite?
is there some way to figure this out? This will always depend on one's own tolerance for variance. |
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For the record, I wasn't complaining about bulk chips being priced in BTC, I just wanted to understand better. It seems very risky but it's their call and they currently have 100% of the leverage and can pretty much do and say as they please. Please put the pitchforks away, I'm just trying to learn!
On another note, if you're reading this Yufi, could you possibly give a quick update about the 20GH/sec upgrade module?
I am going to wait and see how the initial bulk chip orders go before I make the plunge myself but I am itching to invest in more mining hardware and remembered my Avalon's will have some room for these upgrade modules. Any information is greatly appreciated... +1 I noticed the module purchase button was fairly recently updated to "Soon", but would like further guidance. Definitely interested. Also Yifu, can you confirm that batch 2 units also have only one open expansion slot? It appeared as though the cases are the same dimensions as the batch 1 units. Presumably this means 4 slots total. |
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I think he(Josh) previously indicated around 6w/Gh/s. Avalon is using around 9.39w/Gh/s. So Josh is saying BFL will be 40 - 50% lower, but it looks more like 36% better if their current numbers are at all believable...unlike their old numbers. |
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While you both make some good points, I find organo's predictions to be a useful tool. While they have been overshooting the difficulty mark somewhat it's easy to use his projections and then adjust slightly as events unfold. ASICMiner is deploying hashes somewhat slower than they predicted and Avalon batch 1 took longer to get out the door than anticipated. Meanwhile BFL is still BFL.
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So far, the company has been professional, honest, had a good attitude about it.
How is "We will deliver in october, LOL, sorry, november, LOLZ, actually not in december, STFU you are a IDIOTS we deliver in february,oops, march, eeh, april, nah, end of may, probably mid june july-ishy" in any way professional or honest? They have been perpetually lying in their prognoses and only once did they notify their customers investors that they won't ship on the preset date. They had Josh come in here, completely ignoring actual important questions just to engage in several pissing contest with both the competition and trolls. You are seriously deluded when it comes to the actual situation BFL customers are really in. BFL has a lot more history than the couple of months you know them for. 1) So the update said pretty much what I was expecting. The software is almost done, we have changed the power profile and had to change the board design to accommodate which is almost done, we are shipping out the dev units, and doing all the little 100's of details that make for a properly engineered and tested product. No surprise here. In fact, encouraging as it gives insight into exactly where everything stands. I think we are 2 months or less at this point. Your post trailed off there. Can you complete your last sentence? 2 months or less from what? Shipping orders placed in June of 2012? If those orders ship in June of 2013 would you expect an order placed today(April 16 2013) to be shipped this year? Please be verbose, I really am trying to understand the motivation to order at this point, particularly given the 500% increase in power consumption which makes the shipping date an absolutely vital factor in calculating profitability. |
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While I can appreciate what you're trying to do, failing to make a distinction between a hardware vendor and a vaporware vendor is dangerous. By listing both BFL and Avalon as green you're steering those reading this thread to BFL as Avalon does batch shipping and is unavailable. The bottomless pit of orders BFL takes in makes it unclear how long one could potentially wait to receive a product ordered today.
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