Guy's, Are you blind or what? Yesterday AMT silently admited that this is their design and power usage Correct? Today it seems that this stuff is not working right? And you are starting some bulshit for alt cons BTC price and stuff I am wandering Are you REAL AMT customers? Do you care about what you are going to get, when you are going to get it, how stable will it work, how many GH will it make, what power will you need? that is the stuff real miners care. And you are not acting like such! or at least you do not care  Dam i need to take my pills too seems that i am crazy  |
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Nice stats... 862GHs at about 0.16554912 BTC per day... (That is not quite a 1.2THs miners results, if it is, you are getting raped by the pool.) That is roughly 4.9664736 in 30 days... (But lets assume 2-months, with the slowing network growth.) What price will you be cashing-out at? Who actually mines BTC directly? I would not be cashing-out until BTC reaches $1000+ again... Total units estimated over the life of that machine above, would be about 12.65BTC, over a 2 year period... What will BTC be then? $30,000 per BTC, or back down to $30 per BTC... Who knows... no-one... But most believe it will be higher, so assume 10% of the worst estimates from people who actually know what they are talking about. Looks like BTC is having a hard time pushing through $500 again... All those alts cashing-in for pennies on the dollar. That'll fade, until summer-time, when it returns to something around this price again. The good news is that BTC seems to be on the floor. The bad news is that the money is under the floor. (I like to point out the obvious.) You don't make money if the market doesn't move! (That requires it to go up AND down. Thus, "Motion".) BTC on sale now 60% off! The point is that IT IS !!!UNDER PERFORMING!!! And you have just admitted that fact The funny part is that this supposed to be the unit from yesterday video which make most of you orgasmic And before your next wise comment please take your pills and visit your doctor Then write as many comments as you want |
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http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1BA1Y3xvLbSYU9TqcxUspXzEn1roSStCVrNot looking good to me at all. And before ISAWHIM kicks in and start to explain about diff, networks, optimizations VARIATION and whatever he can think of the picture is not good! The only good excuse will be that they have power outages or ISP issues or that this is the only working prototype they have which is tweaked constantly Which sounds ridiculous to me personally.
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Shame they have sold out the pre production run. I was interested in one. If anyone is looking to sell one at a fair mark up i would be interested.
March batch is available with reduced price. You can get one from there. But the price and roi does not bother you right? Any way there will be enough guys with board in hand after a couple of days and you can get one with reasonable markup. However i am not selling mine I am just looking to collect different types of hardware. If nobody can give me a fair offer soon I will just order for march. Thanks I would just hang fire. Someone might get 3x and realize they don't like the noise of 6x Sunon 4500rpm fans! Someone on the TerraMine thread asked what the noise was like, and the reply was, "loud enough your wife will leave you if you don't switch it off". Well Sunon 4500rpm are that noisy too!  Unless you leave enough space between wife and fans Or you leave the wife first  Apart of the jocks they are noisy and dangerous. I was thinking gator is not right about it but in fact he is. Watch it Gator. These ones are even more dangerous compared to previous ones In general you can live without a finger or two but what bothers me much is the electricity. So kids and wife's are forbidden! that is why I keep my stuff locked always and it is only me who goes there. That is what all of us should do to be able to enjoy our families. I have 15 Kw in my room wires everywhere. A single wrong move can cost a lot |
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Dude,
just click cgminer stats in your tplink and post it here
much more easy thing compared to looking int6o source code
Actually there is no "your tplink", but there will be one next week and THEN I will dedicate you my first click/cgminer-api output. What is more easier and what's not, depends in this case on my profession... I'm neighter a "clicker" nor a priest, who is seeing things that aren't there. Ok. Just in case you missed that as far as i can see you are running custom build of cgminer Right? if yes ssh is familiar and cgminer api-listen also? If not something more than a copy paste of compile instructions is needed which is called tp-link. In any case a little bit of reading about cgminer in general is a good start Anyway type cgminer-api stats under ssh console. Is that hard? |
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so I just received 3 boards today. I opened one board to check it and one fan is broken on the edges and some nuts are missing to keep the fans on the board....it is not a deal breaker, but the nuts should have been there I will test the boards in the evening with my less powerful 40A PSU (still waiting on my new ones). How do I have to set clock and voltage? Or should I just try to decrease the voltage until it is stable? You can set all via web of tplink or you can read changelog all settings are inside. A friendly advise. DO NOT CONNECT MORE THAN ONE BOARD TO 40 AMPS. NEVER! 40 amps at at the edge. Magic PSU smoke is very close I did see the pictures you had only one PCI-E connected! A lot of multi rail PSUs (Platimax 1500W) have 30A rails I assume 2x 30A rails will be fine? More than fine Gator. in your case underclock/undervoltage even one can be fine. Just measure it if you can but on 12V rail not at the wall This is my tool for measuring 12V rail current usage hey it is an expensive one my is up to 10A and completely useless for hex8  |
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so I just received 3 boards today. I opened one board to check it and one fan is broken on the edges and some nuts are missing to keep the fans on the board....it is not a deal breaker, but the nuts should have been there I will test the boards in the evening with my less powerful 40A PSU (still waiting on my new ones). How do I have to set clock and voltage? Or should I just try to decrease the voltage until it is stable? You can set all via web of tplink or you can read changelog all settings are inside. A friendly advise. DO NOT CONNECT MORE THAN ONE BOARD TO 40 AMPS. NEVER! 40 amps at at the edge. Magic PSU smoke is very close I did see the pictures you had only one PCI-E connected! A lot of multi rail PSUs (Platimax 1500W) have 30A rails I assume 2x 30A rails will be fine? More than fine Gator. in your case underclock/undervoltage even one can be fine. Just measure it if you can but on 12V rail not at the wall |
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so I just received 3 boards today. I opened one board to check it and one fan is broken on the edges and some nuts are missing to keep the fans on the board....it is not a deal breaker, but the nuts should have been there I will test the boards in the evening with my less powerful 40A PSU (still waiting on my new ones). How do I have to set clock and voltage? Or should I just try to decrease the voltage until it is stable? You can set all via web of tplink or you can read changelog all settings are inside. A friendly advise. DO NOT CONNECT MORE THAN ONE BOARD TO 40 AMPS. NEVER! 40 amps at at the edge. Magic PSU smoke is very close yes I wouldn't connect 2 boards 2 one PSU , already got me additional PSUs for each board I guess the changelog is in the download folder for the new tplink image right?...I will download the new image in the evening I really hope it will work this time and that I don't have to many dead chips(or cores) again Changelog is inside the archive with cgminer patch The best setup will be a tplink and board powered from one psu 650-700W at least 45A 12/5V - do not mix psu's grounds. Powerful PSU's 85+A are expensive and does not worth the money. if you have 85+A on a single pSU you can connect two boards to tplink + HUB. Never mix grounds. that is my way 0% problems |
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so I just received 3 boards today. I opened one board to check it and one fan is broken on the edges and some nuts are missing to keep the fans on the board....it is not a deal breaker, but the nuts should have been there I will test the boards in the evening with my less powerful 40A PSU (still waiting on my new ones). How do I have to set clock and voltage? Or should I just try to decrease the voltage until it is stable? You can set all via web of tplink or you can read changelog all settings are inside. A friendly advise. DO NOT CONNECT MORE THAN ONE BOARD TO 40 AMPS. NEVER! 40 amps at at the edge. Magic PSU smoke is very close |
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Shame they have sold out the pre production run. I was interested in one. If anyone is looking to sell one at a fair mark up i would be interested.
March batch is available with reduced price. You can get one from there. But the price and roi does not bother you right? Any way there will be enough guys with board in hand after a couple of days and you can get one with reasonable markup. However i am not selling mine |
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This time i am very satisfied with speedy  The parcel already cleared from custom. I just call DHL office & they said they will deliver the parcel tomorrow Congrats Zich:) Thanks loshia Going to prepare new PSU tonight Some hints for you Zih (and for the rest waiting for their boards to arrive). 1. Set you pool hex8 worker to mine at predefined diff 256 or 512 - will give you les rejects about 0.15% . The key point is to avoid adjusting your diff to often. The higher the better 2. Set diff-to-one 1 - watch it closely HW error % and find your sweet spot in terms of clock and voltage 3. Set diff-to-one 0 - default value for a production run - which will give you less HW% and big speed variation, BUT you gonna have x diff less USB reads better usb communication. You are not loosing/gainig Hashrate. you are just suffering from variation. Probably you are getting very small amount on top because of reduced USB reads which are deducing USB CRC errors 4. Wait for a day and post nice looking screen shot 5. If you are inpatient and do not want to wait use diff-to-one 1 It is ok even for production run 6. And post again 7. Finlay when you are done ssh/screen disable logging --quiet Thanks loshia , this is what i need. I will follow your way by setting at lower frequency & voltage then let it run for 24 Hour before push it to 260 I will get upset if you do not post something like this I am jocking of course do not push the board too much  My reject rate is little bit high due to my primary pool issues and moving back and forth to backup/primary, besides guild sucks in terms of rejects for me personally this is with Set diff-to-one 0 - i am testing it and it is looking good with tplink of course TO ALL - Such high clock and voltage values are not recommended Use them at your OWN RISK!!!!! |
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This time i am very satisfied with speedy The parcel already cleared from custom. I just call DHL office & they said they will deliver the parcel tomorrow Congrats Zich:) Thanks loshia Going to prepare new PSU tonight Some hints for you Zih (and for the rest waiting for their boards to arrive). 1. Set you pool hex8 worker to mine at predefined diff 256 or 512 - will give you les rejects about 0.15% . The key point is to avoid adjusting your diff to often. The higher the better 2. Set diff-to-one 1 - watch it closely HW error % and find your sweet spot in terms of clock and voltage 3. Set diff-to-one 0 - default value for a production run - which will give you less HW% and big speed variation, BUT you gonna have x diff less USB reads better usb communication. You are not loosing/gainig Hashrate. you are just suffering from variation. Probably you are getting very small amount on top because of reduced USB reads which are deducing USB CRC errors 4. Wait for a day and post nice looking screen shot 5. If you are inpatient and do not want to wait use diff-to-one 1 It is ok even for production run 6. And post again 7. Finlay when you are done ssh/screen disable logging --quiet |
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This time i am very satisfied with speedy The parcel already cleared from custom. I just call DHL office & they said they will deliver the parcel tomorrow Congrats Zich:) |
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cgminer uses TCP for communication. Does it not... over TCP, it broadcasts HTTP, does it not... (You connection is to http://somesite/yourminer) http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/key-differences-between-tcp-and-udp-protocols/Wiki the TCP protocol, and find the "method for broadcasting a packet". There is an "OK" in that, is there not... Wiki the HTTP protocol, and find the "method for responding to a http request". There is an "OK" in that, is there not... Now packet-sniff the data from your miner, or look at the source-code. There is an "OK" for accepting or rejecting submitted shares, is there not... Anyways, this is getting off topic... How many chips! lol. You are unbeatable dude i admit it |
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TCP Broadcast adress waiting for pool ok
Wow, you are funny, that was a short answer, obviously. There is a "TCP broadcast", to the "address your miner is connected to", which waits for an "OK, work accepted". That is how CGminer knows to display, "Rejected shares" and how it detects "New block" so you can dump your work, to start loading and processing new work. Should I have put all that, or just said... TCP boradcast address waiting for pool OK. Con, Kano help me with this please You are embarrassing your self dude..Rely. I am not joking here... Funny part is that you believe in the bullisht you spread. That is called COMPLETE lack of brain i have no other LOGICAL explanation. The final comment for your broadcast shit is that any TCP broadcast adders can be used at layer 2 only. got it? 7 layer osi model. Your posts are well quoted so do no twist it please. |
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You know what? Best case will be to mine at 2048 diff and pretend your miner is 2t instead of one. 1t miner is one 1t miner and it is staying 1t no matter what diff you are using. Simple as that...
Funny thing to notice... on the video, where it is running with a 8-diff to start at 999GHs... near the end, the pool auto-adapts to 512-diff, and the miner instantly averages 1.002THs... Let it run a little longer, it would have gone to 1024-diff and ended with an average of about 1.1THs, I am sure... (Missed that last time, it was only like a few seconds of the last frames.) http://bitmine.ch/?p=5176But you are right... Even watching cgminer choke, live, in that video... While the 8-diff is there, still there once the 512-diff comes. with the bottom card stalling below average as 180GHs while the others all ran smooth as butter at 222GHs... Yet, I am wrong. lol. I can make you a video too. Ont that shows my miners pulling about 710KHs with diff-1 submission, another with the sane units pulling 730KHs with diff-32, another with them running 762KHs running solo, another with them running 781KHs solo and workload-64 size... then tell me again how my 700KHs miner is not a 781KHs miner. I could do some port-snooping and packet sniffing on the network, and accurately measure the output, along with all the repeating failed buffering of cgminer's horrible http/tcp protocol sorta-standard communication. In the end, for those who do mine in pools, it does matter what actually gets accepted as work, for earnings. There is no need for video to be made dude. Make sure you are using TCP Broadcast adress waiting for pool ok that is enough for me If you made me a video of that i will appreciate it very much check cgminer code it is diff independent counting shares. It returns all shares diff one. cgminer checks it against diff1 if it is HW error and counts it as good SPEED COUNTERS but submits only the ones matching diff. But i suggest you to focus on Broadcast address and movies ywhere you are good at . I am doing you a favour and saving some of your valuable brain time. To make it more mysterious - diff can be passed to chips and they can return only shares matching diff but that was not IN THE VIDEO! |
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HEX16A can not OC that high. Unfortunately cgminer-api command only work on TPLINK TL-MR3020. I suggest you buy one on your local computer shop & flash it with latest image from technobit. It's pretty cheap.
Then using cgminer-api we can determine whenever there is dead chip or not.
That's what I'll do... Haven't found any working "per chip stats source code". The API of cgminer itself is delivering only totals. Didn't want to say "that IS a HEX16A" but "the preformance is more LIKE a HEX16A". The schematic available in opening page of this thread Ups... Cool! Thx! Dude, just click cgminer stats in your tplink and post it here much more easy thing compared to looking int6o source code |
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...But it is not making your miner from 1t to 1.2t if you follow my thoughts. When you solo-mine, your miner is not wasting "time", "bandwidth", "processing", sending your wallet or cgminer, the junk-shares. They just grab the next work-load and mine if they find no solution. Yes, it can drag a 1.2THs miner down to 1.0THs of average output. (Prior to the pool). When you tell your miner to "give me the junk that is ____ diff", so you can submit it as a share... this is what it does... 1: Saves that hash for the diff you wanted (Has to check each result and compare it to your requested value) 2: Checks that hash, to make sure it is valid 3: Sends that hash through the stream (A stream which is shared with other miners sending this crap back also.) 4: Wraps it in a package to send to the pool 5: Sends it through a TCP boradcast, waiting for an "OK, got it". 6: Resends, if that fails... (skip this if it got back an OK, repeat this over and over until OK is gotten.) 7: Works on next load now (repeat from step 1 for next diff) As opposed to solo-mining... 1: Check found block 2: Submit found block (Repeat from step 1) Time lost "submitting junk", at the CPU/miner is enough to be noticed. Varies by each chip... depends how fast they puke-out info, and the CPU can direct that info in the threads, and process that info for packing, and sending. The more "shares" (low diffs) you send, the more you lose in actual processing time. Not to mention the other-end, where you are right... higher diffs = more potential share loss, as they take longer to find. Thus, the need to tune the shares to the speed of the units. And... for 1THs, 128-256 is more "tuned" for less losses of both the processing at the miner and losses from the pool. (Seen more on faster blocks, as those do more "resetting workload", which is where the "workload-size" comes into play.) I tune machines like crazy. Voltage is step 1, delivery and processing is step 2, cooling is step 3. Beyond that, there is nothing much that can be done. But it all matters, and 1-10% loss from dozens of machines matters a lot more than 1-10% loss from one machine. But I will go over all of that in a full review, once my miner comes. You know what? Best case will be to mine at 2048 diff and pretend your miner is 2t instead of one. 1t miner is one 1t miner and it is staying 1t no matter what diff you are using. Simple as that. However you can earn more btc with same miner if you use it properly but it is not making it 2t Do you make a diff between broadcast any cast multicast and UNICAST address at all You look pathetic with your conclusions dude. And your tech explanations do sound like .........You have to learn a little bit before spreading wisdom all over. PERIOD! Gys, to all of you who listen and take ISAWHIM posts seriously. I am strongly suggesting to start mining at 10K diff immediately and your hash rate will go up 10K times GUARANTEED . Make sure you are using TCP !!!BROADCAST!!! ADDRESS waiting for an "OK, got it" as suggested/wisely explained by ISAWHIM . Otherwise you are in a deep shit and you will earn 0 BTC And finally make sure your home switch do support IGMP (multicast) snooping group your miners and go to cisco academy at the end. That will bring you 10 times over your hash rate guaranteed! BUT you need CCNP certification at least |
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6 cards (48 chips), running non-optimized deliver 222GHs peak (at an unspecified operating voltage). This is a total of 1,332GHs or 1.332THs peak, in normal mode. (Not Max, because that would be "turbo", and that is not how these are being setup.)
By those estimates, the projected 6x (48 chips), would operate within specs, slightly below the "chips" "normal voltage". Which, for the AMT 1.2THs miner, would be the units "normal operating voltage", or "stock setting".
Hope AMT is generous with the first production of non-optimized and heavily-populated boards. (Would like to know what the chip-count would be for the units still... Anything over 48 would be freaking great! But 48 would be plenty still. 1.8THs potential from a 1.2THs machine, and I am happy.)
Well if Bitcoin.ch advertised their units at 1 THs systems and are shipping 5 modules, then I do expect AMT to ship with 6 modules at 1.2 THs. Will this break the bank? At $90 per chip x 48 = $4,320 add $500 for everything else... $4820... list price $5999... still enough room to make decent profit. AMT will need to make a 48 chip system profitable at $5,999. Cointerra is already at $5,999 and is advertised at at least 1.6 THs. Not really. Industrial psu is needed plus possible design issues. 6 module design is not option in their current stage of development is what I think |
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I do not know if you are a paid amt spokesmen with lack of knowledge or just a troll but among all stupid things posted the underpaid share and diff 64 made May Day. As native English speaker you should be aware of the luck and variation meaning.
In short they used diff 1 or underpaid share as you call just to avoid the variation and show the performance for a minute. With overpaid share it will be the same but more time is needed. I do not have free time to comment all buy one all of your bright and shiny thoughts. Please take my apology for that Obviously you don't mine with an army, like I have... You submit 10,000,000 diff-1 shares and tell me your miners don't run slower submitting crap... You put the work-load higher on big miners, and put the "submit shares" to 256 for THs miners, not 16-diff, which slows down the network, sending millions of share-hashes. Sending 1,000 a second is too much, stops CGminer from actually processing blocks, lowering your average. That is why they changed the pools to auto-adapt to flooding of crap. Want a tip... if you are in a pool... use small shares with small miners and smaller workload sizes of 64. You finish work faster, and submit a few more shares than the guy with a 256 workload size. He is still "processing" while you have submitted 4 shares. When the next block arrives, or your solution, you have already submitted, and his 256 workload still processing gets rejected for being late, by the time it actually submits. For a THs miner, that is death, submitting too many orders too fast. You got speed, you need those bigger orders to stop from flooding the threads and the miner and the network and the wallet and the pools processing all those hashes to confirm they are valid before accepting them as "credit". Networks buffer like crazy, you will lose more credits and "found blocks" due to your ISP buffering the hell out of your puked data. So basically we are talking for paid share and reject rate I am so stupid please excuse me. The point was about hash rate shown by cgminer right? So like a resume cgminer will show same. The paid shares rate will be different and I do agree that mining with higher difficulty do all things you mention. And mining at higher diff is always better for sure. But it is not making your miner from 1t to 1.2t if you follow my thoughts. What will make your miner more powerful is higher voltage and higher chip clock which hit power consumption badly |
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