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12461  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: It is time to question Poloniex market manipulation on: May 16, 2016, 11:23:42 PM

Roach has had a bug up his ass ever since he invested in BTS and the trolls on Polo dumped on him. He whined and complained that these markets don't have enough liquidity to support margin trading. He's right, but so is the fanatic standing on the corner yelling the Apocalypse is coming. I have lines plotted from 6 months ago on Bitstamp, and its a joke how obvious BTC trades. These markets trade like the guy who plays ABC poker. Yes Roach, Polo is a turd festival, but so is everything else in this rigged world. To me, you are nothing but another mushroom farmer.

Yup.
12462  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: June 2016 on: May 16, 2016, 05:20:45 PM
Markets are constantly moving, yes.
12463  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: It is time to question Poloniex market manipulation on: May 16, 2016, 05:12:24 PM
Roach, is this you? 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4jg1br/psa_poloniex_is_close_to_insolvency/

Haha.
12464  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: TPTB_need_war Bitcoin Fork in the making! on: May 16, 2016, 04:32:23 PM
I can say that my co-developer refused to allow the masternodes have the ability to unmask the anonymity. I was arguing for a simpler design but his standards of ethics on the technology are even higher than mine. Then apparently we were able to devise a solution so the masternode could not unmask.

Evan Duffield

Now I'm curious as to how, and to whom, this goes....

I can't tell you how old he is. I swore to never tell. Obviously it isn't Vitalik. And it also isn't David Zimbeck, nor Charles Hoskinson, nor anyone from Bitshares.

So he's a random guy.
12465  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: It is time to question Poloniex market manipulation on: May 16, 2016, 04:09:34 PM
My main problem with it is they're supposed to be an altcoin exchange, but now they're framing one coin as superior to all others due to a backroom deal they made with someone to allow permanent wash trading of one single asset.  When you give someone non-public rates on trades that results in one coin being wash traded to 50-100x higher volume than every other coin, it makes Poloniex themselves in on the pump/manipulation.

The last thing on earth you want is to be trading assets where the exchange owner is in on the manipulation themselves.  Anyone remember when Vertcoin hit something like $10?  I talked to Big Vern and told him to add it to Craptsy.  What did Big Vern do?  He added the coin and then immediately disabled wallets so nobody could deposit shortly after, dumped at market peak, then re-enabled wallets again several hours later.  He probably just dumped coins that customers themselves deposited (shorting), then buys back after the market crashes.  If the exchange owner is in on any type of manipulation, traders are screwed and there is no reason to go anywhere near the coin.

Please show your proof.  These are serious allegations.
12466  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Are there communist cryptocurrencies? on: May 16, 2016, 12:59:01 PM
Are there any cryptocurrencies that are built on the principles of Communism, be it intentionally or unintentionally?

Ask DE.  Grin
12467  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The most undervalued project I have ever seen. on: May 16, 2016, 12:58:06 PM
Yo Spartak, how's Viacoin doing?

Are you implying something? Smiley

Huh?  Just curious bud...  Why so defensive?
12468  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The most undervalued project I have ever seen. on: May 16, 2016, 12:17:14 PM
Yo Spartak, how's Viacoin doing?
12469  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The most undervalued project I have ever seen. on: May 16, 2016, 11:02:11 AM
^ Not sure if srs.
12470  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: It is time to question Poloniex market manipulation on: May 16, 2016, 10:56:12 AM
Then don't use them when doing trades.
12471  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: It is time to question Poloniex market manipulation on: May 16, 2016, 10:37:00 AM
Why is everyone so jelly of Polo and Ethereum all of a sudden?
12472  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: It is time to question Poloniex market manipulation on: May 16, 2016, 08:40:05 AM
As for ETH daily trading volume, it's trading in the millions in 3 different exchanges + in hundreds of thousands vs fiat.

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ethereum/#markets

So I don't think Polo is doing some shit deliberately.
12473  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: It is time to question Poloniex market manipulation on: May 16, 2016, 08:28:14 AM
You can call it "fake" trading (i.e. buying and selling something, pay just the fee for the trade and create artificial volume).

Or in the case of zero fee exchanges (not Poloniex according to their posted fee rates, but who knows what private discounts/rebates may exist), you don't even have to pay the fee to do it.

I'm not sure about that. A lot of people are following Ethereum, and I believe that the volume is genuine. If I was part of the Poloniex exchange, I would not risk my reputation like that. They have become a leading (not only altcoin) exchange in the world and they are making a lot of money anyways. Smiley

My thoughts exactly.  If one thinks that they shouldn't become one of the larger exchanges, then blame Cryptsy and BTER.  Their customers went to Poloniex.
12474  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: It is time to question Poloniex market manipulation on: May 16, 2016, 06:40:23 AM
Huh?  Proof?
12475  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: calling all people who got ripped off by sdc??? are you there??? on: May 16, 2016, 03:46:42 AM
Is this another one of Bobsurplus' work of art?   Grin

What has Bob got to do with this?  He has never been involved with the Shadow Project.


So who were the people behind it?
12476  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: calling all people who got ripped off by sdc??? are you there??? on: May 16, 2016, 03:10:34 AM
Is this another one of Bobsurplus' work of art?   Grin
12477  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: was just thinking about buying some XMR and is this something to cause concern? on: May 16, 2016, 01:12:31 AM
Ok.  Thanks.
12478  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Syscoin vs Bitbay on: May 16, 2016, 01:08:50 AM
I'm rather new to the altcoin scene and after a few days of looking at which coins to invest in i decided on ones that are working on decentralized marketplaces as I feel that's where there could be a  future for altcoins. I found and invested in Syscoin and Bitbay and both seen to be at the same stages of development but the difference in marketcap is huge? Bitbay is something like 12% of Syscoins price! Is the only difference here marketing? or that Syscoin is on Poloniex and Bitbay isn't?

Bitbay turned out to be a Bobsurplus pump and dump.  But the dev is still trying to save the project.  He should just drop it and move on. 

for someone with over 1000 comments you really are clueless.

Also for a 'pump and dump' it needs a pump . . i thought you would have known that too!

Nope you are.  Know your history bud:  http://cointelegraph.com/news/chat-logs-allegedly-show-bter-creating-and-pumping-its-own-coin

Bitbay's dev thought he was creating a legit project but Bobsurplus and co. had other plans. 

Wow you found that article congrats!! You must know so much now more than me!

The 'Dev' David HAS created a legit project and not just that, one of the more advanced projects in the whole of crypto!

If your going to go down that angle Isn't Lisk just crypti getting a rebrand? Which was a BobSurplus project? So in theory Lisk is a Bob coin??

Sorry for pointing out the truth on Bitbay.  But that's what really happened.  The dev got conned into believing they were creating something legit but then Bob and co. had other ideas.  BTER was involved too.

And BAY has no volume...  Look how much is being traded daily.  Not one serious investor is touching BAY with a 10 foot pole.  A lot of people are bagholding BAY and are really frustrated.

Explain your crazy logic because it does not make any sense.

Why should an investor not invest with bitbay. You are obviously struggling are you not?

Yes I would not invest with a known scammers project but these scammers tried to ruin the project (david is the project) after taking 4 5ths of the devlopment funds and dumping all their bay trying to crush the coin.

I explain already why you are foolish to continue with this assumption and yet you continue.

A project should only be treated as a pariah if there are scammers running the project or benefiting from it in any way. Why would you think that a project that has been the victim of a scam should be shunned? David has stuck around with hardly any funding working for free and you say there is an ethical reason investors would have not to invest with bitbay.

I already gave you and example but I will post it here again since you obviously did not read it.

You need to realise the people that now make up the bitbay community and the developer are the SCAMMED not the SCAMMERS???

It's like saying people who had their house broken into and burned have a dirty past and you will not have anything to do with them.

Please think about what you are saying before making yourself look more foolish.

Explain your logic or refrain from repeating groundless statements.

When i invest in things I tend to research them first. I think david building this with no development funds is more to his credit than if he had of had funds to work with don't you?

I can only imagine you are related in some way to those scammers that tried to scam everyone and destroy the project. Either that or you're a secret investor of a competing project.


Believe what you want.  Bitbay's miniscule daily trading volume speaks for itself...  No one is interested in Bitbay.  Good luck with your investment.
12479  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Syscoin vs Bitbay on: May 16, 2016, 12:46:03 AM
I'm rather new to the altcoin scene and after a few days of looking at which coins to invest in i decided on ones that are working on decentralized marketplaces as I feel that's where there could be a  future for altcoins. I found and invested in Syscoin and Bitbay and both seen to be at the same stages of development but the difference in marketcap is huge? Bitbay is something like 12% of Syscoins price! Is the only difference here marketing? or that Syscoin is on Poloniex and Bitbay isn't?

Bitbay turned out to be a Bobsurplus pump and dump.  But the dev is still trying to save the project.  He should just drop it and move on. 

for someone with over 1000 comments you really are clueless.

Also for a 'pump and dump' it needs a pump . . i thought you would have known that too!

Nope you are.  Know your history bud:  http://cointelegraph.com/news/chat-logs-allegedly-show-bter-creating-and-pumping-its-own-coin

Bitbay's dev thought he was creating a legit project but Bobsurplus and co. had other plans. 

Wow you found that article congrats!! You must know so much now more than me!

The 'Dev' David HAS created a legit project and not just that, one of the more advanced projects in the whole of crypto!

If your going to go down that angle Isn't Lisk just crypti getting a rebrand? Which was a BobSurplus project? So in theory Lisk is a Bob coin??

Sorry for pointing out the truth on Bitbay.  But that's what really happened.  The dev got conned into believing they were creating something legit but then Bob and co. had other ideas.  BTER was involved too.

And BAY has no volume...  Look how much is being traded daily.  Not one serious investor is touching BAY with a 10 foot pole.  A lot of people are bagholding BAY and are really frustrated.
12480  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: was just thinking about buying some XMR and is this something to cause concern? on: May 16, 2016, 12:30:03 AM
But what really happened?  And why did it happen?
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