I have $8.1 in my Skrill account which I want to exchange for equivalent BTC/PM/OKPay. Buyer will need to go first.

SOLD

The article is quite informative. I have used Paper wallets before so I knew about it. However, I could not get this part:

Multisig is another method is to protect Bitcoins. It involves creating a multi-signature transaction system under which more people (usually 2 or 3) need to approve the funds being released.

Is this like having a joint account? But in that case any account holder can withdraw the amount without the consent of the other account holder.

I don't think this Multisig method would work as what if one person is not available? The funds would be kept on hold till then? It's just going to complicate the things.

@Bold: LOL! What I'm trying to say either you are not able to understand or don't wish to understand. PayPal has created their ToS taking into account the law & regulations. They have not imposed certain rules that are illogical. Whether a person follows those rules or not, that's the person's mistake but PayPal's rules are right by not letting money laundering.

@Green: People sometimes don't go through the paper work to save money just as some who sell their account don't bother to check who their buyer is.

@Red: I hope you don't do that  I'm just trying to say that if my PayPal or any account in that case which verifies my identity as a person is sold to a fraud or criminal, I will be interrogated if not arrested no matter which country I belong to.

If you find it nonsense, then I'll need to tell PayPal and other websites as well that their TOC is utter nonsense right?

I am not only talking about bitcointalk accounts but also about all those accounts of websites that find it illegal and against their TOC.


For eg: If anyone gives their house on rent (which is legal) to a wrong person, what would be the outcome? Not only the person who was staying in the house will be blamed but also the person who owns the house. You will say that the owner has nothing to do with the crime but without any verification, selling/renting anything is considered wrong.

Saying that people will do it underground makes no sense as a wrong thing is wrong. Making it legal out here does not make it right in anyway. People who want to scam or do illegal things will do it no matter what's the outcome but by imposing a law/rule may make things better.


We have a legal system in every country but still people commit a crime knowing that they will be punished. So does it mean that there should be no legal system in any country?

Hats of to you for saying this. I too will never sell my account as I believe it's not right and unethical to do so. For me, my reputation and self respect is worth more than the dollars that will be offered to me in exchange.

That's what I am trying to say. If tomorrow anybody files a complaint with PayPal, Amazon or any other website about the illegal activities going on here, it may cause the forum to be shut down. Too many illegal activities will ruin this forum which can be of help to many of us. I don't want it to happen.

@bold: I meant Verified PayPal account. I am not jumping to conclusions dear but accounts which are verified and sold, can easily be used for Money Laundering purposes.

And about Knives being used to butter a bread and that being compared to buying an account? LOL

One may use a knife to commit a crime but in that case, the company or brand who manufactured the knife or sold the knife is not blamed. In the case of an account, the person who originally owns the account is blamed if the buyer is a fraud.

And I would appreciate if you buy my gift card. 

Jokes apart. You can use Google as there are many websites which run contests throughout the year. 

I feel left out here because I consider selling any account illegal. People in the Digital Goods section sell their forum account, Amazon account, Phone Numbers, Email accounts, PayPal accounts and I don't know how many more accounts are being sold and bought.


I can't get why is this allowed? I have just witnessed a "Trusted" member who sold his account and the buyer was indeed a scammer who tried scamming another member with the help of the Trusted account. I don't know how many times has it happened here.


Selling Trusted PayPal accounts is the biggest blunder as the buyer can use it for money laundering and illegal things while the seller will be blamed for those deeds and it is a CRIME.

Promoting referral links is considered spamming everywhere but having a signature with a referral link I guess is fine while some forums don't even allow that.

I feel the way it was counted last month was a better method to do so as one should every time start from zero and not go negative.

I removed the old "bumps" of December and January and I wasn't a part of any Signature campaign at that time. I have made so many new posts now which aren't being counted.

If I tell Macro to delete me, my 20-25 new posts are just wasted. I can tell him to edit my starting posts as that would be fine. 

Yes I could tell you the website that held the contest if you are interested in buying my Sears gift card. 

How can I be sure that the person who is the escrow hasn't sold his account? The person will say that I need money and so I sold my account and his gain will lead to so many people losing their hard earned money.

That's what I'm trying to say that one wrong act of selling/buying accounts leads to so many wrongs here.

I am talking about this hero account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=143543

The user told me that he sold his account and the buyer turned out to be a scammer. Check this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=936429.0


Buying or selling accounts anywhere in the world is still termed as fraud. Amazon accounts are being sold here which is illegal in the eyes of Amazon and selling any account is illegal everywhere else people will start misusing the website by owning multiple accounts.


Is having more than one account on Bitcointalk forum allowed? If not then how can one bitcointalk member buy another account.


Sorry but what's wrong is wrong. What's illegal in one place is considered illegal. It's money laundering to buy and sell fraudulent cards and I can in no way support that. It's a crime.

That's the major reason I don't trust any member out here even if they say they have 1000+ trust. This is illegal as one can create a new account here without any need to buy a "ready made" account. That's not a tough job to create a new account buy "buying or selling accounts" is definitely illegal without any second thoughts.

There is definitely a way to find if a gift card is fraudulent as people say that a "card" will expire in few days especially Starbucks cards. The cards have no expiry date and saying that they will expire proves that the card is bought using illegal methods.

Yeah may be that's the way out as now I have stopped checking the bot. It's making me feel stressed now 

I am first time going to praise the MODs for this action as I used to always feel that the forum is not being moderated due to the amount of spam/scam taking place here.

It's a request to even check the Digital Goods section where people are openly selling fraudulent goods, Amazon accounts and even their bitcointalk account. It's illegal and such topics shouldn't be created. I have recently witnessed a case wherein a Hero Member with positive trust sold his account and the buyer was a fraud who went to scam another person who sold him a product just because of his stats.

As per the website, it does ship to asia: http://www.sears.com/csinternationalshipping/nb-100000000367002

But again you will need to check which product you are buying and there will be a shipping charge as well. You can check that by trying adding a product to your cart and checking the shipping fee.