Hahahahaaha

And having a pretty good sense of your inclinations towards single (or small set) of actors manipulations of the bitcoin space, seems likely that you are pretty damned receptive towards the ideas of the article (but even you are not willing to go that far)....  Go figure.    


Another WO poster (aka: ~Money~) who is receptive to conspiracy, tether, manipulation nonsense stories.   

Scammer negotiating terms of the scam.....     What's next?   

FTFY     

Hey.  Fair enough if your trading portion is only 10-15% of your total holdings.  That is decently prudent, so I find difficulties criticizing you on that aspect.

Your remaining assertion about the meaning of "getting r3ckt" is quite a puzzle.    You seem to be trying to suggest that either there is NO way for you to get r3ckt or that getting r3ckt means something other than a traditional understanding of it.

I do agree that if you are trading with ONLY about 10-15% of your total holdings then it becomes quite difficult to get r3ckt in any traditional understanding of the r3ckt concept.

Now, get out there trooper, and trade some BTCs!!!!!!!!!  That's an order.   

"Please note, I'm not getting "rekt" at the moment."

Good for you. 


I am also going to note that you should not be relying too much on stupid-ass charts that attempt to treat bitcoin as if it were a mature asset and fail and refuse to incorporate either bitcoin's currently low level of adoption and underlying s-curve exponential components that bias UPPITY rather than other scenarios (such as flat or downity).

In other words, TLDR, you deserve to get rekt (even if you are not) if your chart relies on too many incomplete presumptions.   

Oh gawd!!!!!!

What levels of desperation?

Also similar themes as previous nonsensical explanations regarding previous exponential price rises, like MTGOX caused the 2013 price rise...

Looking for gullible fucks, and wanna be nocoiners who are going to lose the fuck out of the BIGGEST wealth transfer ever if they are believing either the one large player theory or anything even close to that happening in terms of actual on the ground facts.



Exactly!!!! That is what I meant to say, but somac said it much moar better.   

Don't we already know that frequently looking at orderbooks, we frequently see reverse indications, so in that regard if sell orders are stacking up on bitstamp, then frequently the price will move in that direction and if the buyers can buy up all of those coins on the order book, it becomes a kind of free sailing once they get through the stacked up coins on the order books.

This is an old play, somac.  It's been seen many, many, many times in bitcoinlandia, so in other words, it seems quite dangerous to presume that BTC's price is going down or failing to go up, merely because sell orders are stacking up on various order books whether on bitstamp or other exchanges and even if you see a pattern of sell orders piling up across many exchanges.

You have some decent points, Cryptotourist.   I kind of agree with Dabs that there is some kind of objectivity in escrowing, so in that sense, Dabs's framing of the objectivity of whole matter can appear to be kind of obviously a fair thing to do; however, at some point the level of scam is so god damned obvious that attempting to objectify it or give it any kind of level of normalcy then rises to the level of enabling scammers to get their message out, and could end up hurting some people because there seems to be some ambiguity regarding is there a scam going on.

So, yeah, this is a obvious scam.  Kriptonium, who is either the same diptwat that was here a few months ago or some new diptwat with a similar scam proposal, is obviously attempting to figure out how to get some bitcoins in his hands without providing any kind of service.  Even the most sophisticated service could not provide what diptwat Kriptonium is proposing, and yeah, inevitably BTC's price is going to go up, and yeah, if some people pay diptwat Kriptonium then he and perhaps his royal we can assert that he and perhaps his royal we caused what they had not caused.

Therefore, your points are quite valid, Cryptotourist regarding the supplying of a platform for obvious scammers.

On the other hand, I do recall that sometimes there is some toying with the scammers, and frequently even the proposal to actually escrow will cause the scammer to NOT follow through, but in this case, I could see a scammer agree to escrow, and then still end up getting paid for doing nothing beyond just soliciting within the forum and getting people to pay into the escrow, then the bitcoin price does what it does (such as goes up), and then the scammer claims credit (and gets paid).  A scenario like that would be real bullshit, and it should not be desired to be any part of promoting that kind of morally repulsive situation. 

By the way (kind of an aside), the only redeeming aspect of scammers getting free coins is that frequently the dumbest (or the most desperate) of people get into that nonsense, and sooner or later they were quite likely to lose their coins.  Scammers will just accelerate a very likely status of removing coins more quickly from weak hands, but sometimes even weak hands should be protected from this nonsense, because there are some less likely scenarios that such weak-handed dumbass/desperate peeps looking to be scammed might end up learning before they actually end up getting scammed or otherwise removed from their coins. 

You are an expert in diversion, and denial.  I will admit that.  I have no burden to present your bullshit as if there were any need to give it credence or limelight or even to occupy my time with it, because I could give two shits about it, except just to characterize it for the shit nonsense and deceptions of what it tends to be.   

In other words, TLDR:  you are NOT rite.   

I think that there is a need to attempt to find excitement in both consolidation and periods of less BTC price movement.

Yeah, maybe you become a volatility junkie, or maybe just hoping for upside, but you are setting yourself up for disappointment.

Many folks likely remember 2015, about 9-10 months of BTC prices that were largely in the mid $200s with a few outbreaks, but largely gravitating back to the mid $200s. 

I know that I frequently post about the inevitability of volatility in bitcoin, and that is because I know that it is pie in the sky thinking for guys to be hoping that bitcoin is stable for several years.... it is not going to happen, at least not until after we reach supra $1million per BTC.

So yeah, bitcoin in volatile as fuck, but at the same time, consolidation remains a necessary factor, especially for several days, weeks or months.

We surely have both going on, and probably it is just as bad to be so impatient with BTC as to be wishing for volatility as it is to be wishing for stability... and in the end, king honey daddy is going to do what he wants.. and does not give too many shits about your preferences.

So likely it is much easier to just go with the flow rather than trying to push king honey daddy when he is not ready for pushing.

I am hoping that we can get to this stage:

Don't be doing that no more, nutildah.   

Jbreher selective representation of facts and incredible leaps of logic are only meant to bring knowledge to various of us ignoramus pleeps of the world who are NOT quite capable to grasp the gianormous greatestness of his superb and wonderful presentations (of nonsense).   

I will admit that there has been some periods of bordom since the end of 2017, but the overall picture is very far from boring.

The end of 2017 started us out at $19,666 and it took about a year to go down about 85% to $3,122, with a decent amount of volatility and faked outs along the way.  Then we bounced back up from $4,200 to $13,880 within 3 months, and just a week ago we had over a 40% BTC price rise in 12 hours.  Hardly boring.

No guideline?  Don't we have more than 25k pages of wo?  and common strategies within... and also common sense can be a guideline, too.

You gotta also attempt to use a brain, and don't gamble.  I think that I have said don't gamble a thousand times.

If you buy and hold, there is no fucking way that you would be even close to 80% down.  So just do some variation of that.  Buy and hold and wait 4-5 years, and that should be profitable. 

You dumb fucks!!!!!!!!!


hahahahahaha  ... that is funny, Raja, if not ironic.

I did not even know about anything specifically related to bitcoin until November 2013 - except in November 2013, bitcoin was on my list of "things to look into" as of about September or October 2013, but I had not look into it at all until November.. go figure.

I stand by my earlier statement

Your further explanation sounds even more pie in the sky (as well as bearish) as if bitcoin is going to take some kind of slow and steady path.

If bitcoin takes a slow and steady path it is largely showing that people are not interested rather than inspiring confidence in its adoption.

The hype cycles in bitcoin might be a bit dramatic and traumatizing for peeps who don't know how to handle them, but in the end, they are both good for bitcoin and nearly inevitable in this kind of a free market that involves both  sound money and a paradigm shifting disruptive asset.

Even in 2015, there were some folks lingering and trying to reach three digit bitcoins, but it became much more reachable, even for regular people to attempt to accumulate 21 bitcoins... three digits became a bit out of reach.

Yet as BTC's price went up, and then failed to really come back down below $3k, and even only stayed below $4k for a few months, 21BTC became much more unreachable by regular people.

I think that now, we have people who are trying to get seriously into accumulation either shooting for 1 BTC or the 6.15 BTC. 

I hate to look through my old posts regarding myself personally, yet many times, I would take about accumulation goals in terms of what might be reasonable based on evolving prices.  Frequently, also I would talk about some kind of reasonable BTC buying budget in terms of dollars, and then of course that would convert into a quantity of BTC, even while only rarely does someone say, I have $12k to spend over 6 months or something like that.  $12k is a nice number because it is quite divisible and to be able to attempt to stay with round numbers when suggesting what to do.

Sometimes we also realize the large number of people who do not even have their financial lives together sufficiently enough to even be able to afford some trivial amount of emergency expense, like $400.  I personally believe that those people should NOT be investing into bitcoin until they first get their finances in sufficient order so that they are prepared for at least a  $400 expense and also have their cashflow projections in sufficient enough order in order to project how much cash they have in reserves for a minimum of 6 months.  You can get away with a shorter period of projecting your expenses if you are single and if you do not complicated expenses, but as soon as you add in a family or a business or some other payments such as a house or a car payment and other things like that, then you have to project out further - 18months or more. 

Of course, the shorter the time out from the present, then you are going to be more accurate with your cash projections, and the further out that you go, the cashflow projections are going to serve as outlines, and surely the more specific that you can be in projecting, including projecting an ongoing cashflow cushion then the more accurate you are going to be and the fewer surprises that you are going to have, even if you run into some emergencies along the way.

Once all that is in place, then you can add you bitcoin buying/accumulation budget into the mix... which then you decide what are your tentative BTC accumulation goals in 6 months?  one year?  two years? five years?  Gotta walk before you run, and even consider that some goals are going to be harder to reach than others and certain goals are going to be reasonable and prudent...   Do you involve gambling in your goal creation?  I hope not.  Not until you reach a certain stash, then maybe, thereafter, you can establish a side gambling stash.

You got a real problema Roach to be reminded of me because of that song.    


ditto.

Roach obsessed, aka one sick pup.   

I registered here in February 2014, but I had gotten into bitcoin in late November 2013 (right at the peak of that particular exponential growth period).  You registered here about 9 months before me, and BTC prices were nearly 80% less expensive when i got started in BTC.

Sure I looked at the then charts, and I did not go all into BTC at the top, I just started to invest at that time and continued to study BTC and to invest in it.

I lost a good number of BTC through various avenues, too, and not really much different from the ones that you listed, but I still have more than 60% of my BTC stash (at it's high point).  I know that none of us want to be scammed out of coins, but what I am also trying to say is that there's gotta be both learning and also some attempts to stash away some of the coins, no?  In such a way to accumulate some BTC in the end of the day.  Right?



You are talking about getting distracted by shitcoins, probably, no?

Shitcoins should only occupy a very small percentage of any prudent BTC investor's total crypto portfolio value.  I personally say less than 5%, yet I am somewhat tolerant of guys (or gal) who might choose to invest up to 20% because that level of extra risk taking is their choice.


There seem to be pretty decent odds to that BTC could go to $100k in the next 12 to 26 months

Why are you saying that?  Are you changing some of your practices in regards to BTC or are you just expecting to have more cashflow after 20 months or so?

Don't forget that you should be attempting to learn too... I mean really learning.. not just saying that you are learning.  

One of the first things that you should try to learn is how to NOT lose money.  That would be one of the best things to learn, especially in the beginning of your trading practices.

When I say learn how to NOT lose money, learn how to value your wealth in bitcoin, not dollars or whatever other crappy fiat that you might use.  Stack your bitcoin, and in the long term, you should be in profits - especially 3-5 years down the road as long as you continue to stack sats.

Holy fuck....  ~Money~  If you have been around Bitcoin since May 2013, and you still do not have one bitcoin, then you are likely to be fucked if we reach $100k, and if you currently do not have 1 BTC and you been around BTC for more than 6 years, I doubt that you are going to have 1BTC by the time that we reach $100k.  In other words, .... alright.. I won't say it... I am going to hold back the BIG meanie, at least temporarily.