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12681  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 27, 2019, 02:49:06 PM
10k objective. It is very possible.

The volume profile indicates that it can arrive without much effort, the bulls can achieve it .. It would totally change the face of the market.




According to Katie Stockton:

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She sees a breakout above $10,000 as a “a nice positive catalyst from a technical perspective”, but says traders will need to keep a watching brief for a confirmed breakdown or a bullish breakout

Source: https://en.ethereumworldnews.com/bitcoin-price-fragile-bullish-breakout-possible-above-10000-upbit-hack/


Could be bullish for bitcoin, in the sense that honey badger gets some kinds of jaded pleasures from the seeming inevitabilities of the fuck ups that relate to various shitcoins - even if such fuck up(s) wasn't exactly ethereum's fault that there exist either scammy or hacked exchanges that are dealing with your inflated, scammy or hard to verify quantity of coins, if they can be called that?
12682  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 27, 2019, 02:34:36 PM
V8 has to pay up in February 2020

It’s important it hangs over his head for as long as possible

Don't spend it all in one place.....


Forced deferred gratification....  but who should be complaining about "free" monies (except there was a bet on the line, and there is that)...... Tongue Tongue
12683  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 27, 2019, 05:46:09 AM
This is post #1:





The irony when we see some posts in this thread blaming the use of TA.

 Let it go man; that attitude will age you prematurely.  This thread has morphed into a community-based, semi-autonomous chat board - the initial post has historical value only.  There's only one rule in here and I can't, for the life of me, remember it.

It's don't write FUCK YOU FATTY, if you do that it will get deleted.


 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


That's why I come here so frequently... . for the lulz....


So funny that you, Arriemoller, can't get over a few deleted posts... especially and in spite of you obviously being in the wrong.

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
12684  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 27, 2019, 05:40:57 AM
via Imgflip Meme Generator

@r0ach.... family tradition ??

That looks like an awesome blowjob lineup.

Also, what happened to you Goosy? Whats this about a boat? Apologies, I was keeping away from corn until the corn stopped scaring me.

I tried my best but I huffed some hopium and now I am here.

When you 80x too frequently, it comes back to bite you, and peeps never talk  (or brag) about their losses... that's one of the major problems of going 80x more than one time (after you had already gotten lucky, even though admittedly it had been an accident).   Squander away all gains plus more and maybe even end up going completely broke out of desperation.  it tends to be an illness for anyone who plays more than once.
12685  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 27, 2019, 05:34:57 AM
I've got some slight life issues ATM. Watching the corn doesn't help a bit.
Shitty times come, shitty times go. Waiting.
Well, at least I had no boating accident yet.

That is why all of us have to be careful NOT to overinvest.. .because shit happens, and even if we have gotten the upward price spurts in bitcoin, we can never really be sure how long it is going to take for the next upward spurt.  Surely the longer that time passes without an upwards spurt, the more likely that some shit can happen that could shake us from our coins, especially if we might have over-invested a bit too much.  I am not saying that has happened with you d_eddie.. but this is a public thread, so the idea of not over-extending oneself in terms of their corns is addressed on a more general level.

Probably most peeps do not want to be forced to sell any corn at a time that is other than their own choosing.  That's all I am saying.
12686  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 27, 2019, 05:05:41 AM
God damn......  Angry Angry

Just when I was done with spinning course... I treated myself on a Pizza Quatro formaggi + 3 rosé wines on rocks....

Then when I was outside I realised I lost all of my BTC on a boating incident few days back  Cry  Cry

I'm here now only to write and believe but damn that boating trip F***

That should help you to reign in some of your ostentatious and extravagant demonstrations of consumption, hopefully.      Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



Before Mic can answer, perhaps he'll indulge us by letting us participate in the new poll.

Old poll:


The conditions of the old poll have not even been met, yet.  we are still in the middle....

AmiNOTrite?
12687  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 27, 2019, 04:10:16 AM
Millions are protesting across the world in:

Hong Kong, Venezuela, Lebanon, Russia, Syria, Spain, Ecuador, Bolivia, Iraq, Haiti, Israel, Pakistan, Indonesia, Chile, Argentina, Peru.

They don't need cheaper payments, they need censorship-resistant money.

https://twitter.com/Rhythmtrader/status/1199060090424311808?s=20

Micgeeses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!      Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry


Did you alter Xhomerx10's "designed my nice avatar HATs!!!!!  Thanks Bro"?

 Angry Angry Angry

WTF*** is your dumbass’s F***ing problem with me writing down xhomerx10 makes the cool avatar HATs which I like to wear very much please do tell me so I can understand you style of thinking and exhausting people you stupid writing piece of machinery F***

Sorry man just wanna respond in a way you should only me using some “*” ....... but still don’t understand your message completely I guess Tongue  Kiss



I'm  innocent. 


I'm innocent.


Help!!!!!!!   What did I do?  I didn't mean it.. .I didn't mean it...





 Cry Cry



If we zoom in on the flock, we see real anger.......


Aaaaaaaaaaa....  scary

12688  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 27, 2019, 12:34:41 AM
My long is being beaten to shreds, and happiness is a thing of the past.
What's a man supposed to do? Why, buying physical!
(Investment money decoupled from play stash.)

You did not sufficiently off-set with a short this time around?
I cashed it out already, and I won't short again right now.

That would be my problem, too.  Trying to figure out, exactly, at what point to close such shortening in the event that I had opened one.
12689  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Status of WEX (World Exchange Services) on: November 26, 2019, 05:58:25 PM
Can you (or anyone) translate to English and explain the reason for the post, and the relevance here?  My Russian, no good (actually such referred-to Russian does not exist beyond google translate)

I think a google translation of the video's description is understandable - someone who lost 1 BTC on wex is threatening to dox one of wex admin's family to pressure him to return 1 BTC.

Oh, thanks.  Like a kind of blackmail.  Surely, some people play hardball.
12690  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 26, 2019, 05:48:40 PM


We can thank Obama for the Clintons, too.


Thanks, Obama!!!!!   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes   Angry Angry Angry
12691  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 26, 2019, 05:44:55 PM
@fillippone

The signs are there, it’s just like late 2015, we’re going to start a slow creep up soon before EXPLOSION in 2021.

My bags are full/

My body is ready Cheesy Grin

I would like to friendily correct you LFC (a proposed friendly amendment) hahahahahahaha

Seems to me that we are in the period between about January 2016 and May 2016, rather than late 2015... so it could last a while, and we have been in this spot for a god-damned long time, too... gosh.. since about July/August-ish?  Part of the reason that we are lingering in this territory for so damned long seems to be partly attributable to our lil April 1 to June 27 front running/over-exuberance/manipulation or whatever the hell you would like to call it.  So, yeah, I am not sure how long we are going to stay stuck in this early 2016 arena.. we could bounce out of it quickly, but usually we should trickle up a quite a bit before bouncing out.. which would bring us to the middle of our current range rather than in the lower aspects of it (where we sit at the moment).   

Specifically, we gotta get to $10k or $11k -ish for a bit, which would be approximately the middle of the range.. no need to be exactly precise here, because it does not matter, and then we should be ready to bounce.  On the other hand, history is never likely to repeat itself with any kind of exact precision, so in that regards, there should be a sufficient number of continued bullwhale manipulation attempts to trick folks into believing some other scenario that largely attempts to negate the viability of BTC and the applicability of either the four-year fractal pattern model or PlanB projections or whatever other applicable bullish projections that are more likely in spite of bearwhale ongoing quasi-predictable pulling rabbits out of hats, phoney baloney attempts at nonsense.   

Gotta love it, since several of us long term HODLers already have a decently clear vision where we are actually going (to not be rattled), rather than where we are going to continuously hear that we are going on in the quite likely upcoming battle months (perhaps years, worser case scenario).
12692  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 26, 2019, 05:14:29 PM
Millions are protesting across the world in:

Hong Kong, Venezuela, Lebanon, Russia, Syria, Spain, Ecuador, Bolivia, Iraq, Haiti, Israel, Pakistan, Indonesia, Chile, Argentina, Peru.

They don't need cheaper payments, they need censorship-resistant money.

https://twitter.com/Rhythmtrader/status/1199060090424311808?s=20

Micgeeses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!      Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry


Did you alter Xhomerx10's "designed my nice avatar HATs!!!!!  Thanks Bro"?

 Angry Angry Angry
12693  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 26, 2019, 05:04:01 PM
Anyone interested to answer this stupid?

But... in the crypto world, they are possible. Take for example bitcoin. People are paying thousands or even million times more for bitcoin than for some altcoins, even though these coins have the same or better utility than bitcoin. Meaning, the same as bitcoin these coins can be transferred easily, fastly, cheaply, safely and transparently to someone. Such coins can be bought for as low as $0.001. Why people in the crypto world pay millions time more for the same thing? Why they behave so irrationally?


Security and network effects seems to explain much of this.  In other words, some other supposed technology better be at least 10x better if it wants to displace king daddy incumbent.
12694  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 26, 2019, 04:59:15 PM


Deader than dead. Even more dead than ever before. Not just dead but DEAD. Deeeaaaad x|

no pain, no gain, dude
keep the corn in your wallet(s)
hodl like always

#haiku

Do the opinions of altcoin pumpers count for anything beyond zero? Maybe .00000001?



Those opportunist should not be "in" in the first place.
Morally they were never "in"!

what Palmodar said...
12695  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 26, 2019, 04:54:28 PM
$72xx, I wonder where we go next, to $6500 or $8000? I suppose wherever the whales want us to go.

Huh?

You are overruling the currently existent poll? 

The poll has $6,500 or $7,500, and it is not completed, yet.  We were within $15 of the $6,500, which is god-damned close, which causes me to not rule it out, that's for sure.. but which one first remains another question.  I had voted for $7,500, but I had also voted for $8,500 and we saw how that played out.   Cry Cry

Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
12696  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Status of WEX (World Exchange Services) on: November 26, 2019, 04:42:30 PM

Can you (or anyone) translate to English and explain the reason for the post, and the relevance here?  My Russian, no good (actually such referred-to Russian does not exist beyond google translate)
12697  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 25, 2019, 05:29:13 PM
Someone woke up and started to abuse the buy button.

Yo bro, no competition. We are going to lose next month anyway Grin

Who know, who knows... anything might happen in a month.  Cheesy

"Anything" within reason, no?  Seems that the odds for up are becoming a bit greater than the odds for down, but then again, I sometimes am a bit torn too when I see how much negative sentiment is out there in mainstream information circles.  That is not exactly a new thing in bitcoinlandia, but of course, there are going to be attempts at trying to keep the momentum going down while it is going down, and surely there still could be some needs to purge some of the shit coins.  To me it seems that any little bounce in bitcoin also causes a bounce in shitcoins, which is not really a healthy sign, because many of us realize that shitcoins are called shitcoins for a reason... and at the same time, we cannot really rule out that a decent number of them might come again on the next upwards bitcoin ride.

Never say never in bitcoinland, but going below $4,500 might be a place where I might convert into thoughts that we entered a bear market.

Of course, my personal strategies are not really going to change very much, but my existent buy orders only go down to about mid-$3,000s so I would surely need to start reorganizing a bit, if it appears that BTC prices might even get into the mid-$5ks.  No one should be waiting until the last minute to plan for things, even if the odds of them happening seem to be quite far off, but if we get close to mid$5ks I am going to have to take some measures to engage in some restructuring of what is left of whatever cash I have left for trading, including considering the extent to which I can garner any new monies to bring in... or would I merely go into a HODL strategy, and surely those are all considerations - because none of us really would want to NOT be able to take advantage of possible buying opportunities even if we may have a feeling that we have already exhausted most of our dry powder already even before the price even gets close to the mid-$5ks.  That kind of was the case for me in late 2018, when we kept visiting lower $6ks over and over and over, it seems that I had kind of banked on $6k being pretty damned close to the then local bottom.. which subsequently, we found out was NOT the case.. then some scrambling has to take place to attempt to take advantage of a situation that many of us reasonably had concluded was NOT likely at all to happen.. but then all of a sudden, we were there. Fuck.
12698  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 25, 2019, 04:31:24 PM
Every time we dip a bit stronger than usual, most of WO is scared shitless with their "reasonable" worst-case bullshit estimates. So disappointing, especially given the size and history of the thread. Roll Eyes
I see no panic around. Do you?
Right, and stuff like "no movement till 2024 halving" is a rational opinion or assessment after such a dip? It's fear and panic disguised as staying calm. Maybe I made the mistake of assuming that the average person here is smarter than a monkey?

I doubt that Alexander_Z is exactly reflective of the average WO member, if there is such a thing.  Opinions on the WO have always been all over the place, so it is strange that sometimes posters get all sentimental attempting to suggest that this thread has some kind of coherence in bitcoin bullishness, and every cycle seems that we have to fight certain characters of trolls that are not even the same ones over time... the troll from within, sometimes exists, too.
12699  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 25, 2019, 04:20:38 PM

Btc price was pretty much expected to fall when it dropped bellow 8900-ish.

Do you mean after October 25 or before October 25?  Likely October 25 affected expectations, even if a lot of folks considered that to be a bit of a pump, it still took 26 days to return to its $7,300-ish starting point.

After the pump, after Oct 25.  Now we have many MA lines on the daily and weekly above us and until we don't get above them it won't be a bull.

Still seems too damned short term to really get very excited about it or to really draw much if any significance from it.

Surely at one point the extra-ordinary October 25th price rise may have appeared to be a possible direction change and to even suggest that we had been possibly getting out of our then current BTC price bottom (which was around $7,293-ish), but even the price could not really sustain itself for more than a few days, which might be kind of what you are suggesting, so I don't know how significant the whole thing ends up being, except for a temporary reprieve from our pre October 25 down inclination (as they say a kind of fake out that you don't really know what it is until quite a bit after the fact, which maybe you and I are kind of agreeing here.. or not saying anything materially different from one another).
12700  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 25, 2019, 04:11:19 PM
Personally, I suspect that it is not easy to see s-curve adoption while in the midst of it, but jeez, just mentioning the $300 to $500 price range was about where we were bouncing around during early 2016 - right before that particular halvening.

Couldn't between a 13x ($500) and 22x ($300) price increase from our current $6,600 in 4 years serve as a kind of ballpark indication that we might possibly remain within a kind of s-curve adoption?  Perhaps?  Perhaps?

Even a 10 x appreciation from here would put us at an amazing figure JJG.

Yeah, but can we really count on the previous fractal pattern to play out?  I mean there could be all kinds of dickering around in order to try to camouflage the existence of s-curve adoption and what if it takes four years to get to the 10x, instead of bouncing up 30x to 50x and then coming back down to 5x-ish in 4 years which would not really rule out s-curve adoption (in my thinking)? 

Any of those would still seem to be signs of s-curve adoption because what kind of asset keeps averaging such high return rates unless it is in a kind of s-curve adoption?  Even if we cannot see with much precision that we are in the midst of s-curve adoption?  Yeah, we would like more explosiveness to really show it, but we have already had decent explosiveness, and there could be some logic that the s-curve might kind of appear to be flattening out in terms of percentages, but we still are achieving more and more adoptions and network effects and some of the indicators (beyond price) might even be more steep than the BTC price curve.
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