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12761  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Find pirateat40 in person thread... on: October 24, 2012, 02:07:15 AM
The guy who spoke with Trendon's former employer has been online briefly this evening. I'll assume he's now working on drafting an epic post (not meant as humor, for there's a lot of info), although I'm not sure where he'll post it. I just emailed him letting him know of this thread. It'll be up to him, but either way make sure he's thanked for his efforts. He's a good guy.

~Bruno K~
12762  Other / Off-topic / Re: Let's Count to 21 Million with Images on: October 24, 2012, 01:53:49 AM
12763  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Random Images via Dumpster Diving Google ([img width=/<1000][/img]) on: October 24, 2012, 01:49:37 AM


I don't even know I got this from the search "heyo".

FTFY

12764  Other / Off-topic / Re: [Announcement] Butterfly Labs on: October 24, 2012, 01:26:41 AM
He doesn't say the equipment is in place.  He says "we've got" which I take to mean "we have got" the equipment.  It could mean "we have procured", or "we have contracted".

That would be stretching the truth, but then, they've got plenty of experience in that.

And therein lies the rub, for I've already laid out the time frame of events below:

Quote
Nasser's quote was from September 21, 2012, 03:55:49 AM.

The auction ended at Sep 28, 2012 08:20:35 PDT http://www.ebay.com/itm/ESSEMTEC-RO300FC-REFLOW-OVEN-/320989507198?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4abc772e7e&nma=true&si=mAWggEYKpH4g2H7aZLAFESK6gGA%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

The item was listed on the September 24, 2012, with the 10 day Buy it Now Option, thus purchased on the 4th day of when it was listed. Proof here: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:MmvMm15qTFcJ:www.ebay.com/sch/Manufacturing-Metalworking-/11804/i.html%3F_nkw%3Dreflow%2Boven+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

In the quoted text above (in bold), Nasser speaks in the past tense as if they already own and are operating the reflow oven for assembling.

That's the only point I was trying to clear up.

Quote
(we've got a MyData Pick-And-Place and an Oven for high-speed and high-volume inhouse assembly)

we've got as in we have now a... This was stated on Sep 21, three days before the auction for the eBay oven even started.

Nasser is expressing in that quote that BFL now (which was then, on the 21st) has equipment in place to handle the assemble load. It was later that the press releases came out stating that they have new equipment.

I've already shown that the eBayer that they purchased from lied as to the nature of where the equipment came from. He stated in one of the listings that he was selling it for some lady, but I proved that he purchased the equipment last year.

If I represented BFL, and were confronted with an issue as such, I couldn't reach for a camera fast enough to show pics of the equipment, cropping out anything that may give my competitors an advantage. As far you for the one image of said piece of equipment being unloaded from the truck, how do we really know it wasn't being loaded onto the truck--not off.

But the hell with that, for the way I still read it is that Nasser states that BFL already owned a oven.

~Bruno K~
12765  Other / Off-topic / Is theymos starting up a petting zoo? on: October 24, 2012, 12:54:34 AM
First a pony, now a goat. I better inform Al the Alpaca to stay away a few days.  Grin

~Cackling Bear~ (eff me, I should've used ~Bruno K~)
12766  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Tweeters - Tweet this for our conference at Money2020 on: October 24, 2012, 12:45:28 AM
Still...

Quote
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12767  Other / Off-topic / Re: Post a lie about the person above you! on: October 24, 2012, 12:41:47 AM
^ Doesn't have access to depositors at Dank Bank.
12768  Other / Off-topic / Re: [Announcement] Butterfly Labs on: October 23, 2012, 11:33:36 PM
Quote
"We've used the experience in mass producing singles to better plan for our SC production, and have purchased equipment to produce the SC boards in-house."

That makes sense, SgtSpike. Thus it's what BFL purchased off eBay is what's he's in reference to, is that correct?

Later, bud.

~Bruno K~
12769  Other / Off-topic / Re: [Announcement] Butterfly Labs on: October 23, 2012, 10:57:54 PM
I don't know who actually makes the boards but Josh said:
"we will not be using the SMT equipment to process our first batch of boards; we will be using the same house that did the pick and place for our previous generation products, which means we're still at the mercy of someone else for our first batch shipments. "

from https://forums.butterflylabs.com/showthread.php/104-Shipping-in-2-3-weeks?p=1461&viewfull=1#post1461

Yet Nasser states above, in bold, that the equipment is in place and they are VERY ready for it.
12770  Other / Off-topic / Re: [Announcement] Butterfly Labs on: October 23, 2012, 10:53:50 PM
At the time of this post, I think they had only just won the e-bay auction for it, and it was still in shipping. Judging by the recent photos of the ASIC boards, it looks like their pick-and-place machine and over are operational. At least enough to create aesthetically correct looking boards. Just have to wait and see if you can run current through them with any sort of desired results.

The timeframe was close, Rassah, but...

Dear ShadowOfHarbringer,

Usually I don't respond to unfriendly posts, but maybe this one needs a bit of addressing. We've had the honor of having Sonny in our corporation
for the past year. He is a bright and honorable person who had come face to face with strong forces behind the scenes without knowing. Many movies
have been made to try and demonstrate how governments and lobbying powers operate. They can kill, sabotage, prosecute or pretty much do anything
they desire without consequences as they have the power, money and weapons to make their point.

The United States Government does not recognize international bounderies when it comes to its interests and demands. The attack on the PirateBay
servers in Sweden is a good instance. Should the owners of PirateBay been Americans, I'm sure they'd already been serving for life in some prison in USA,
under charges of money-laundry, tax evasion (ads on the site), child pornography and so on and so forth. It's easy to hurt people who are powerless.
Even in France this may happen, eventhough on a much smaller scale ( I can't recall any at this point ).

Regarding whether we are a scam or not, the several thousand shipped units can speak for itself. We've used the experience gained in mass production of our singles in our SC production cycle (we've got a MyData Pick-And-Place and an Oven for high-speed and high-volume inhouse assembly). Someone mentioned the backlog is already 5,000. On a production speed of 500 units a day for instance, 5,000 will only take 10 days. We've already prepared the infratructue for very high volume production, since the great portion of the orders will come in after the SC is released to the public. 5,000 units is not much compared to orders we expect to receive after SC release, so we're very ready for it.

I hope this message has addressed some of your questions.

Regards,
Nasser


Nasser's quote was from September 21, 2012, 03:55:49 AM.

The auction ended at Sep 28, 2012 08:20:35 PDT http://www.ebay.com/itm/ESSEMTEC-RO300FC-REFLOW-OVEN-/320989507198?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4abc772e7e&nma=true&si=mAWggEYKpH4g2H7aZLAFESK6gGA%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

The item was listed on the September 24, 2012, with the 10 day Buy it Now Option, thus purchased on the 4th day of when it was listed. Proof here: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:MmvMm15qTFcJ:www.ebay.com/sch/Manufacturing-Metalworking-/11804/i.html%3F_nkw%3Dreflow%2Boven+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

In the quoted text above (in bold), Nasser speaks in the past tense as if they already own and are operating the reflow oven for assembling.

That's the only point I was trying to clear up.

~Bruno K~
12771  Other / Off-topic / Re: Rarity: 7 or Perm? (NSFW) on: October 23, 2012, 10:14:08 PM
The first time a southern girl asked me if I wanted to make a pile, I hesitated out of fear that there might be more than two us involved, and I didn't want to take any chances that the third or more party wasn't female. I answered yes, though, hoping for the best, and later learned that a pile can consist of only two people--to my relief.

Second tit found on far right. She's wearing the bear mask.

~Bruno K~


With childish naivety I must ask: How do you make a pile with only two people?



It's southern speak. She asked me if I wanted to make a pile which translates to do you want to have sex. They also say, "Do what?" which translates to, "Excuse me. Will you repeat that?" In Ohio, the same is translated to, "Please?"

Hope that explains it, Akka.

Later, bud.

~Bruno K~
12772  Other / Off-topic / Re: Are all women scammers? Why do we allow people to jizz into sock puppets here? on: October 23, 2012, 10:10:27 PM
The women are here to mind the children, thus allowing the men to conduct ______________________.

4. Rule 8.1
12773  Other / Off-topic / Re: You know what the best part about UDP jokes is? on: October 23, 2012, 09:59:55 PM
Why do mathematicians always confuse Halloween and Christmas?

Why?

Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec.

Why do some members here always seem to fall for the this-is-not-a-ponzi-scheme?

Because they want to believe that 31 Oct ≠ 25 Dec.
12774  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Meanwhile in Las Vegas..... on: October 23, 2012, 09:52:39 PM
The Bitcoin booth would be overflowing if only LadyBytes were there. And if the lady from Butterflylabs assembly line simply hung around the PayPal booth donning an I accept PayPal button. Something to think about come CES time which, by the way, is just around the corner.

Great work, guys.

~Bruno K~
12775  Other / Off-topic / Re: Rarity: 7 or Perm? (NSFW) on: October 23, 2012, 09:44:54 PM
The first time a southern girl asked me if I wanted to make a pile, I hesitated out of fear that there might be more than two us involved, and I didn't want to take any chances that the third or more party wasn't female. I answered yes, though, hoping for the best, and later learned that a pile can consist of only two people--to my relief.

Second tit found on far right. She's wearing the bear mask.

~Bruno K~
12776  Other / Off-topic / Re: Butterflylabs ads have now gone too far. on: October 23, 2012, 09:37:41 PM
Checking up on UFO news while being on bitcointalk.org, this happens.

Actually, I was reading this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorenz_attractor  then I stumbled upon it via my daily 12:30 PM image search.
12777  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: The Trendon Shavers Saga continues... on: October 23, 2012, 09:31:42 PM
From the sounds of it, my money is on trendon walking away from this unscathed...

Only if he has been training his "walk while looking over your shoulder" skills... Roll Eyes

Surely George Zimmerman doesn't have a cousin in Texas, or does he?

~Cackling Bear~
12778  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: The Trendon Shavers Saga continues... on: October 23, 2012, 09:16:20 PM
So what's happening with this, Phin?

A conversation did take place this morning with Trendon's previous employer. Look forward to a post/thread as to what that conversation consisted of once he finishes penning it. The call was not initiated by me, but by some other member on this board.

The reason for posting this is because a couple individuals have inquired info on this topic via PM.

~Bruno K~
12779  Other / Off-topic / Re: BIBINKA WORD GAME! on: October 23, 2012, 07:57:43 PM
Fat Tay Choon went to the Mining Academy in Brazil, east of Satoshi's yurt, where Gavin was kidnapped by the CIA's goons and forced to pretend faking an anonymous decentralized biscuit—better than all the fish in the Pacific Ocean—but also to defray leeches intelligently with ECDSA fighting qubits for 16.8 dree12, or Phinnaeus must fling toilets towards psy‐ops, without potato smoothies mixed with fried chicken wings from BitMunchies.com, urbanchickennj.com, and Popeye's Bitcoin wallet, which deleted Satoshi's premine ability to cheer very victoriously, none like Butterfly Labs better enabled, but also Pirate crashing AIR applications without the express use of interest-free scams, conspiring with fraudulent sockpuppets and PPTs and..., you
12780  Other / Off-topic / Re: [Announcement] Butterfly Labs on: October 23, 2012, 07:52:38 PM
Dear ShadowOfHarbringer,

Usually I don't respond to unfriendly posts, but maybe this one needs a bit of addressing. We've had the honor of having Sonny in our corporation
for the past year. He is a bright and honorable person who had come face to face with strong forces behind the scenes without knowing. Many movies
have been made to try and demonstrate how governments and lobbying powers operate. They can kill, sabotage, prosecute or pretty much do anything
they desire without consequences as they have the power, money and weapons to make their point.

The United States Government does not recognize international bounderies when it comes to its interests and demands. The attack on the PirateBay
servers in Sweden is a good instance. Should the owners of PirateBay been Americans, I'm sure they'd already been serving for life in some prison in USA,
under charges of money-laundry, tax evasion (ads on the site), child pornography and so on and so forth. It's easy to hurt people who are powerless.
Even in France this may happen, eventhough on a much smaller scale ( I can't recall any at this point ).

Regarding whether we are a scam or not, the several thousand shipped units can speak for itself. We've used the experience gained in mass production
of our singles in our SC production cycle (we've got a MyData Pick-And-Place and an Oven for high-speed and high-volume inhouse assembly). Someone
mentioned the backlog is already 5,000. On a production speed of 500 units a day for instance, 5,000 will only take 10 days. We've already prepared the
infratructue for very high volume production, since the great portion of the orders will come in after the SC is released to the public. 5,000 units is not much
compared to orders we expect to receive after SC release, so we're very ready for it.

I hope this message has addressed some of your questions.

Regards,
Nasser


+1 Hopefully this post gives others who don't want to read this entire thread some useful information about BFL.

I only have a question about the oven. Didn't BFL just purchase their first oven?

~Bruno K~
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