You ignored my entire defense
What defense? If you want to counter something, counter the reasoning below:
I'd be happy to, if you had something to respond to other than 'a couple of the people who believe this is the route forward have engaged in behavior I consider unsavory'. But you don't. There is nothing to respond to.Again: Defend your statement. Or retract it. Any other path forward for you would be dishonorable. You forgot the bit where the big blockers try to fool newbies into thinking Bcash lol and BSV are Bitcoin. Your entire value proposition is based on fraud. One of these logos is a BSV logo. One of these logos is a Bitcoin logo. I can’t tell the difference so I can’t see how a newbie could. This is plainly fraudulent passing off.   Thanks Hairy. He insists on making it an argument about whether or not a piece of software has the ability to act immorally on its own, which is of course, never what the argument was about. breher: just because you ignore a defense doesn't mean its not a defense. I'm tired of playing these word games with you. Look at the scoreboard: your favorite altcoins are dying slow but measurable deaths because they were built on the fraudulent premise that they are the real bitcoin. Had they not tried so hard to blatantly piggyback off bitcoin's good name, perhaps they would both be doing better than they currently are. They would almost certainly be better respected by the general community. Segwit and LN and Schnorr are not BitCoin, for a very good reason. If u don't get that, visit a lawyer but don't misinform all the others. Oh the retarded hv_ is going to help out jbreher in order to provide a meaningful assessment about the situation. Oh, yes, retarded hv_ your numbskull response was so, so helpful!!!! NOT  |
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It's bullshit people claim JayJuanGee passes a Turing test when people just assume the code is a mentally insane human. To pass a Turing test people would have to think it's a normal human.
It's bullshit that you actually believe that anyone gives any shits what you believe, except maybe perhaps for the sake of some humor in witnessing that actual dumbasses like you actually exist in this world (at least on the interwebs). Fuck you, JayJuanGee. You're not fooling anyone. To pass a Turing test people are required to belive you're a normal human, not a defective one. Now you are a Turing test expert, too? Holy fucking shit!!!!! What's this world (or this thread) coming too? Roach knows about almost every fucking topic in the world, even though he has demonstrated that he is one of the dumbest asses on the planet if it really happens to be true that he does not invest anything in bitcoin and actually believes the nonsense of his own posts (that actually shows that he knows quite a bit about bitcoin, inspite of the mostly nonsensical angles that he takes therein, at least relative to a decent majority of the planet).  |
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I have managed to succeed again in catching good looking numbers. Although it is not a big deal, still. I am looking forward to receiving a number of 888. Yay!  Hopefully you have not jinxed yourself in terms of the 888 number. Someone like Loyce or suchmoon will come in and give you 10 merits when you are approaching 888, then you are screwed out of a little historical markenings. And don't come whining in this thread when that happens, because you have invited such possible jinxing. (hopefully you realize that I am joking.. of course, you can "whine" in this thread especially because the whole topic is so dumb anyhow).  |
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I would like to know better in what cases I should report to the administrator, and in which not to do. Please tell how you solve such collisions, so that I can take an example from your strategy as a guide. Don't worry too much about it. If you think it violates the rules (such as spam or malware): report it. That's it. Leave it to the Admins to decide. Actually, you have complete discretion regarding how to report your PMs, and if you have any doubts, report ever single one. On the inside, you likely already know that some of them are not really worthy of reporting because they don't really rise to any level of harm. So, in your own personal judgement, you should really already have sufficient common sense tools to understand when there is any kind of justification for the PM that you received, for example, if the member is responding via PM to some kind of idea that you brought up in your post, and maybe you have had some interaction with the member previously, then you would likely consider messages like that to be more worthy of leeway (in your not reporting them). Even if a you had never ever heard from a member, but the member solicits some kind of value or conduct from you (like asking you to join some club or group or to review some of their post contents), you might also give them some leeway if you believe that it is less strong of a solicitation (surely the discretion and common sense of members is going to vary to the extent that they believe a PM crosses the line and is worthy of reporting, and probably, like I mentioned in my NewAnon response above, if there are any doubts, then it is probably better to be safe than sorry and to report the post, especially because you know that admin members are going to have more tools in their quiver (I love mixing metaphors ) to be able to figure out if there might be some pattern or behavior that you are not readily capable of assessing. |
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Got it. Any news? I would like to know how this story will end, because regardless of the content of the PM, the fact of its mass sending to the list of recipients who did not request it is a violation of the forum rules. The severity of punishment depends on the content of the PM. I hope you consider the issue and make a fair decision. Thanks.
I haven't seen the message and it is not up to me to decide. At least one user has reported the PM, so all Global Moderators and Administrators should have seen it by now — if the admins didn't act on the report then I can only assume Dabs didn't break any rules. (or they may have well acted on it but aren't sharing any info.) There's nothing more for me to add here, really. I received a reply saying that the account wasn't compromised and that he wasn't sending the PM to masses of people, thus not breaking the 'unsolicited spam' rule. Thanks for the update, NewAnon. I have reported a lot of posts in the past and even a PM or two (not necessarily referring to Dabs in this regard), and I don't recall ever receiving any response from Admin regarding the nature of my report, even though there had been times when I thought that the reported content was fairly egregious and worthy of a response. In the situation that you mentioned, NewAnon, I would think that there would have been a little bit of looking into the matter, beyond your more narrow suspicion that Dabs's account had potentially been compromised. I have personally interacted with Dabs quite a bit over the years, so I understand why you might have considered a kind of unsolicited request for money or any thing of value might have come off as out of character for him... and reporting does seem to be like a better practice maneuver.... seems like a better safe than sorry kind of situation, in case you had not been the only member contacted in such a manner. P.S. No need to call me 'sir'  hahahahaha...... I like this response. I don't mind that a veteran user (or even Staff member) who has contributed to this forum gets away with more than a spammer who creates a Newbie account and starts asking for money.
Just like I appreciate that I get away with posting more than once in a row once in a while. It's always at a Mod's discretion what to do.
That is completely true, Loyce. Longer term contributory members are going to get a decent amount more leeway in matters because ultimately we (and I am even hesitant to put myself even in the same semblance of the level of your technical and substantive informational compilation category) don't tend to violate too many of the forum's rules (only in small ways, from time to time). |
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IMHO, you fellas should ease up on jbreher.
He is NOT R. Ver or craig W, clearly.
An engineer and/or scientist, no doubt.
I root for the proper btc, but the jury is still open on whether LN would behave when we stress it with 100s of millions if not billions of users.
BTW, personally, i like second layer solutions like LN more, but I am perfectly willing to listen to the opposite opinion.
Jbear and the Bcash crowd would be ok if they sought competitive differentiation. That's what competitors do. They say 'our product is different and better'. They have logos / brands which are instantly visibly distinguishable. They make their product stand on its own merits. Jbear doesn't do that. He pretends that his coin is 'Satoshi's Vision'. He pretends that it much closer to the 'original Bitcoin' than 'Segwit coin'. He says things like: One of the things that makes BSV good is that it is being incrementally returned to the original Bitcoin protocol. Jbear is not seeking competitive differentiation. He is seeking to pass his shitcoin off as the original Bitcoin. And I have no tolerance for shills, frauds or charlatans. Yep.. no deserving of any break(s) for the reasons stated by HairyMC. Those bcasher, BIGblocker, bitcoin naysaying nutjobs are not even attempting to actually provide a better product, as they pretextually assert, so they don't deserve any scintilla of a benefit of the doubt for supposed good intentions that they do not possess. |
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Trezor (security by open-source) or Ledger (security by obscurity)?
which do you prefer?
trezor.. security via open source. had a trezor since 2016 i have several trezor model ones (one will do u2f), a trezor t and a ledger. the trezor seems easier and more intuitive than the ledger. and it seems i always have issues with the ledger, minor ones but annoying. Yep had a Trezor for a long time also and wouldn't trust anything else myself. Have a Nano S and a Ledger Blue (which I regret) The Ledger stuff is decent but Trezor is definitely ahead in my books, both in UX and just all round support/solidness. The guys behind Trezor are OG Bitcoiners and have proved their place in the ecosystem IMO Open source does seem to be the better route, too, in terms of security and allowing all kinds of technically smart folks to be able to review and criticize their product. |
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How about addressing the rest of my post which you have selectively cut off? By now, we all ready have a good idea how the jbreher rolls, and that is to divert, distract and redirect. He's not even attempting to engage in meaningful discussions. He just wants to spout out his various bcash / BIGBLOCKENER talking points on a regular and ongoing basis... out of pie in the sky speculations that one or more of those fraud coins are going to somehow meaningfully challenge bitcoin.. perhaps he is betting on the fluke, to the extent that he really believes his own bullshit.. and mostly he seems to smart to actually believe that crap... which only leaves a reasonable conclusion that he is merely trolling.... and he denies shilling, but we have no real way of verifying that beyond the contradictory nature of his ongoing persistence in posting crapology that no reasonably smart person (or even a dumb person) should actually believe. |
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I am not asserting that you are NOT telling the truth, but it does seem a bit strange for any of us BTC HODLers to NOT attribute a decent amount of significance to the surprising dynamics of the April 1 to June 27 period.
I was trading in that period, but only long positions. Unfortunately I don't have trace of the details. As I said earlier, my shorts only began with the latest bear market in 2018. Originally it was meant as a hedge. You know I had been thinking that bitcoin's doubling in late 2015 was quite amazing, and it took place from about October 15 to November 5, but the rise was so goddamned gradual until the decisive break above $320 that brought BTC's prices up to $504 from November 1 to November 4. Before 2016 I wasn't trading at all. I know that you are probably starting to suspect that I am either stalking you or becoming a pest, but the relevant period for this particular line of "interrogations" is April 1, 2019 to June 27, 2019.. our most recent exponential BTC price run up.. and clearly you had been in the BTC shorting practice already, after having had gotten a decent amount of experience under your belt during our somewhat deep and painful bearish period of 2018. And, also this 2019 BTC price run up would have been a BIG one to actually challenge any ongoing BTC shorting strategy. That is if you would have kept your BTC shorting strategy as ongoing and it seems like you are saying that you weren't, even though there would not have seemed to have been any reason (except in retrospect) to actually NOT expect a significant and meaningful correction of 30% or more.. which is quite common in BTClandia.. but did not really seem to happen during this 2019 BTC price run up. I was just using those older dates of late 2015 as a relative comparison of the magnanimity of this particular 3.5x BTC price rise (with hardly any significant price corrections of 10% or more within that decently extended 3 month period). |
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Hopefully this is not too complex of an issue for you to attempt to address, which is largely how do you stay profitable during exponential BTC up periods, or do you just factor in that there might be short periods, such as the one between April 1 and June 27 that your shorting attempts are NOT profitable?
Giving you an exhaustive answer is difficult, especially since I have no historical log of my trading moves - only of the transfers from play stash to cold storage when I accumulate enough profit. I don't remember what I was doing in the time frame you mention. What I remember is that I only started the two legged setups after seeing the mammoths, that is, when I felt the bear paws getting too close for comfort. It was the start of the latest bear market. In general, I won't open a short out of the blue. Well, I did the first couple of times, during the mammoth era, while I was looking for a workable approach. However, I did have some trading experience already, so I was carefully humble - and probably lucky. There was no loss. Nowadays when I hold a short position, it always has an opposing long, although sizes can and often do differ. During an exponential up, I aim at not having any short open. So I set stops - even redundant ones, because fuckery exists. Besides, there are longish periods of rest without a single trade. On the other hand, if I spot a solid uptrend, I open a long position and leave it there or play a simple ladder similar to what you do. It's when it gets choppy, she goes down and my long hurts that I start thinking about a short-lived short. Or alternatively I open both positions almost at the same time, trying to start with the short higher than the long. At the moment my long is still unhappy, but the short is green. Barely: there's still no room for a stop that leaves me in profit. So I'll let things stay as they are until a clear direction emerges. My SOMA expectation is a bloody weekend with slow, soft recovery on Monday. If things get brutal, my short will pay me a few more pennies. If she skyrockets, I'll lose some on the short (stops in place already), but the long leg will fly unencumbered. It has no stops, but if we get close to 5k I'll reconsider and taper it down before it liquidates (under 4k). In this gloomy scenario, the short will hopefully save my ass. Summing up, I don't have an exact system. I oscillate between ladder up (basically what you do, only with margin), a double ladder (one up, one down) in times of calm range swings, and furious scalping/rebuilding on the short in times of trouble, when I have a suffering long that needs more support. Which is the current situation. The idea is to have a decently sized short position ready to cash out before the long goes belly up. It needn't necessarily have to make up for the whole loss, as long as it avoids liquidation. If (when!) the price goes back up, I'll regain most of the losses, or gain even more depending on the price trajectory and on my moves - such as possibly increasing my long after I feel the bottom is in, as long as the position remains small compared to the stash size. I am not asserting that you are NOT telling the truth, but it does seem a bit strange for any of us BTC HODLers to NOT attribute a decent amount of significance to the surprising dynamics of the April 1 to June 27 period. In my thinking, it was an amazing price performance for BTC. Sure there have been periods like that in the past, but jeez with bitcoin, there never seems to be an end to surprises like the period of April 1 to June 27. You know I had been thinking that bitcoin's doubling in late 2015 was quite amazing, and it took place from about October 15 to November 5, but the rise was so goddamned gradual until the decisive break above $320 that brought BTC's prices up to $504 from November 1 to November 4. But the April 1 to June 27 price rise had several of those upspurts, that caused even more outrageousness after BTC prices broke above $9,500 on June 20 and then pretty much straight up to $13,880. So in terms of HODLers, we had to be grateful for our various longs and even a bit overly incredulous, but in terms of entertaining shorts, maybe you just became indecisive? I mean there were all kinds of folks spouting out that the correction had to come, the correction had to come, blah blah blah, but we continued to see shorters getting reckt over and over and over again. It was very pleasure-able to witness bitcoin in such a grand punishment mode and the nocoiners, bitcoin naysayers and the left out altcoin pumpeners getting left behind (or otherwise reckt). So, yeah, maybe you ended up NOT losing as much as other shorters during that period, but even mostly HODLers like me were incredulous that over and over and over, BTC was failing and refusing to embark upon any meaningful price correction of more than 10% - and even those were levels of corrections were relatively short-lived during that period... glory days, glory days, and just seems that it would have also been significant for anyone attempting to trade, and especially ative in the practice of attempting to employ shorts. |
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Has anyone else noticed the severe drop in liquidity on coinbase pro for BTC/USD?? Order book averaged about $50 million+ in buys all the way down to $2200 up until yesterday. Within the last 24 hours it dropped from $50 million down to barely over $10 million. What happened here?
You posted the same thing yesterday. Order books are irrelevant - whales use APIs. Didn't Coinbase pro have a recent increase in their trading fees too? That could possibly have been a partial explanation, too, no? |
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I have not heard much out of Tone Vays recently, but whatever, I am asking d_eddie because it seems to me that d_eddie is employing a much more interesting strategy than Tone Vays. Interesting partly because d_eddie attempts to be somewhat neutral towards price while expecting a long term BTC price increase. Sure, Tone expects BTC prices to go up in the long run, but he also tries to trade based on his expectations of direction - and surely less incrementalism than d_eddie...> In other words, between d_eddie and Tone Vays, I am NOT sure who is employing more SOMA. TM |
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Master Eddie how is your short doing? still hedged with low spread?
#nohomo
Short not too happy yet, but improving slowly at the expense of the long. What's more important to me, my total margin is stable within 0.000004% - yes, that's 1/250,000. I'll cut down the losing branch as soon as she makes a solid move. Master, does it mean you open more shorts if the long is growing on the way above? I understand it this way. Yes, I brought the short up to the same size as the long when the price spiked, so their entry points are quite a bit closer now. If she goes down as I think she will, I'll cash out part of the short. If she goes up, I'll cash out part of the long. Ideally when she gets back, I can close both legs and keep the proceeds. Or maybe it will be more complicated, so I'll have to adjust things in progress because she likes to tease a lot. For now it's wait and see. d_eddie: I recognize that you and Gyrsur have been going a bit back and forth on this topic, and surely Gyrsur seems to have a decent amount of skepticism regarding both whether if your system works sufficiently to be worth the efforts and that it seems to take a decent amount of mental power and time consumption to regularly employ your system - and to hopefully remain profitable along the way. I, personally, have a decent amount of confidence that you are both representing what you are doing in a decently accurate way, and that you are likely fairly profitable to stack more sats than you would have otherwise stacked if you would have attempted a pure going long position, including buying on dips and HODLing and perhaps selling a bit of BTC as the price goes up in order to buy back. So, essentially, I kind of accept that if you are employing shorts, then you are likely much more profitable than me (relatively speaking) during 2018 when the BTC price was largely going down for the whole year. I also tentatively speculate that during our April 1 to June 27 BTC spike from $4,200 to $13,880, you would have been losing quite a bit of money during that period of time - maybe even enough to have off-set a decent amount of your 2018 BTC shorting profits. Accordingly, between about April 1 and June 27, there were hardly any significant BTC corrections in order that you could have recouped what you would lose each time that you entered a new short at a higher BTC price. So what did you actually do? Just suffer the losses and keep pulling the shorting lever, because at some point on or about June 27 (probably until now) shorting had become profitable, again. Hopefully this is not too complex of an issue for you to attempt to address, which is largely how do you stay profitable during exponential BTC up periods, or do you just factor in that there might be short periods, such as the one between April 1 and June 27 that your shorting attempts are NOT profitable? |
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Good morning Bitcoinland.
Interesting night last night. Up $300 then down $500... current price $8351USD/$11038CAD (Bitcoinaverage).
Volatile enough for ya?
On a personal level, in the good ole days, I used to trade these kinds of levels (%) of BTC price swings, but these days my swing trades (buy/sell orders) are not usually triggered for less than $800 price swings. I do feel that I profit once volatility hits the levels of triggering my buy/sell orders. Of course, I look forward to the day that my buy/sell orders need $4k to $5k or more before they are triggered. How far into the future that will be is an ongoing matter of conjecture. Trezor (security by open-source) or Ledger (security by obscurity)?
which do you prefer?
I prefer multiple cold storage ("paper") wallets. I do have a Trezor though. Almost never use it. Keep less than 30 coins on it. Too much trouble. If you are traveling Jimbo, it would seem that it could be helpful to have 1 or 2 BTC on some kind of a easier to access device such as a trezor or software on your phone or something that is decently portable like that in terms of having a back up emergency method of accessing your coins - I mean something other than paper wallets, but hey whatever floats your boat, and I do acknowledge that there is decent value in sticking with a system that you know works for you and your particular circumstances.. |
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Hmmm my response "Why don't you go fuck yourself?" to Whiteboys post was also deleted.
So it's not just responses to Fatty that gets deleted. I'm starting to think that someone is pulling my leg.
And I still have no clue as to who is doing it. The moderator (Infofront) isn't doing it.
And as far as i can judge I'm not breaking any of the WO rules, remember this is a self moderated thread with special rules.
I Really would like to know who and why.
Isn't there a thread management history for admin/staff? There's a public deletion history here, but it doesn't show who made a deletion. https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.phpThis is Arriemoller's post deletion record. Delete reply: Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion in topic #178336 by member #159292 noice  Afaik from installing and managing other message boards, there should be privileged views of the same modlog where higher level users can see who did what. So either an admin is reading this and reveals the mod, the mod itself does it or some user having private contact to admin/mods finds out and sends pm to Ariemoller. But i regards this of less importance than adding a comment field to the modlog, where a short note about the reason for deletion can be written by the mod/admin that deleted a thread/message/user. Yes; I agree. I care more about the why then who. If I broke any rules, just tell me so and what rule and I will stop breaking the rule. If not, then stop deleting my posts. My curiosity as to who is mostly due to me being under the assumption that only Infofront and his minions could delete in this thread. Getting deleted is NOT as BIG of a deal as you are making it out to be, and there are actual forum rules about contributing substance, which your "fuck you" related posts or whatever other mere attention whoring don't achieve in any common sensical understanding of the contribution concept. Furthermore, ongoing complaining about forum rules and moderation as they are being applied to you is a kind of breach of the rules in itself. Have you ever heard about that concept? I mean I understand a little complaining here and there about forum rules or whatever and maybe even wanting to assert that theymos is a dweeb or something like that (I am actually not asserting that) , but you are coming off as maniacally obsessed with largely trivialities (I.e your wishing for your largely stupid-ass repetitive non-substantive "fuck you" related posts to NOT be deleted) and discretionary administrative determinations. You're projecting JJG. Back on ignore. NOT. The reality of the matter is that you frequently show yourself as an out of touch goofball.... Sucks to be you.... I have JJG on ignore for reasons mostly dealing with maintaining my sanity.
Shrewd move Okay that's the reason.
Ass hole Fatty. Have Mia in your imagination when you wank. I really think you need a fuck to blow out the things inside you. Fuck off, you nauseating little fart nugget! ignored And to the rest of you. It was a wrong that needed to be righted. Adam is a fucking hero and all-around great guy and deserves to have his stamp on his creation. At least the right wing nutters of old could take some talking to. Who knew that the 2017 recruits of semi-fascist assholes were a bunch of snowflakes and delicate flowers? Fatman still grumpy Is the safe space not comfy You are quite silly Look at this PG-13 haiku... It's bullshit people claim JayJuanGee passes a Turing test when people just assume the code is a mentally insane human. To pass a Turing test people would have to think it's a normal human.
It's bullshit that you actually believe that anyone gives any shits what you believe, except maybe perhaps for the sake of some humor in witnessing that actual dumbasses like you actually exist in this world (at least on the interwebs). |
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Well that’s nice
That's what I thought till I just looked again. Possibly, we are being played. Jury is still out. |
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Hmmm my response "Why don't you go fuck yourself?" to Whiteboys post was also deleted.
So it's not just responses to Fatty that gets deleted. I'm starting to think that someone is pulling my leg.
And I still have no clue as to who is doing it. The moderator (Infofront) isn't doing it.
And as far as i can judge I'm not breaking any of the WO rules, remember this is a self moderated thread with special rules.
I Really would like to know who and why.
Isn't there a thread management history for admin/staff? There's a public deletion history here, but it doesn't show who made a deletion. https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.phpThis is Arriemoller's post deletion record. Delete reply: Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion in topic #178336 by member #159292 noice Afaik from installing and managing other message boards, there should be privileged views of the same modlog where higher level users can see who did what. So either an admin is reading this and reveals the mod, the mod itself does it or some user having private contact to admin/mods finds out and sends pm to Ariemoller. But i regards this of less importance than adding a comment field to the modlog, where a short note about the reason for deletion can be written by the mod/admin that deleted a thread/message/user. Yes; I agree. I care more about the why then who. If I broke any rules, just tell me so and what rule and I will stop breaking the rule. If not, then stop deleting my posts. My curiosity as to who is mostly due to me being under the assumption that only Infofront and his minions could delete in this thread. How much lacking of common sense can you show with your ongoing emotional expressions of sensitivities? Getting deleted is NOT as BIG of a deal as you are making it out to be, and there are actual forum rules about contributing substance, which your "fuck you" related posts or whatever other mere attention whoring don't achieve in any common sensical understanding of the contribution concept. Furthermore, ongoing complaining about forum rules and moderation as they are being applied to you is a kind of breach of the rules in itself. Have you ever heard about that concept? I mean I understand a little complaining here and there about forum rules or whatever and maybe even wanting to assert that theymos is a dweeb or something like that (I am actually not asserting that) , but you are coming off as maniacally obsessed with largely trivialities (I.e your wishing for your largely stupid-ass repetitive non-substantive "fuck you" related posts to NOT be deleted) and discretionary administrative determinations. |
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OOOOOoooooo
lookie
We got movement. Is it NOT down before up? |
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Trezor (security by open-source) or Ledger (security by obscurity)?
which do you prefer?
I prefer Trezor |
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