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1281  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Pun & Fun Thread on: May 29, 2020, 09:08:17 PM


If your parachute doesn't deploy, you have the rest of your life to fix it
1282  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Кризис в 2019 году ускорит рост криптовалют. on: May 29, 2020, 08:30:40 PM
А с этим я не согласен, возможно вы ошиблись месяцем

Хорошо, пусть будет 29 февраля

И что это принципиально меняет? Как я и написал, нужно смотреть более детальную статистику. В начале февраля биток вырос до 10к (с копейками), а через месяц обвалился до 4к, т.е. в два с половиной раза. Сразу возникает вопрос, на каком уровне был максимальный объем инвестиций? Было бы наивно считать, что он был одинаковым (плюс-минус) что на 10к, что на 4к -- учитывая, что падение было очевидной манипуляцией со стороны BitMEX, удачно сквизанувшей кучу лонгов
1283  Economy / Economics / Re: The End of "USD" as the World's Reserve Currency on: May 29, 2020, 08:00:58 PM
China and Russia, ready to see the dollar crash. And dollar can not currency for global trade forever. Things evolve, powers shifts, which force realignment

Do you know how much of the US government's debt China holds? Over 1 trillion dollars, taking the second place among all foreign holders of the US debt (with Japan being a little ahead). Just curious if you are still going to support the idea that China is ready to see the dollar crash. And while many people naively think about how much America owes China, it is in fact the other way around. This "debt" essentially shows how much China depends on the US. Just ask yourself why China would ever want to buy US Treasuries (which this debt is mostly made up of)? But seriously?

And the takeaway is that if America goes downhill, China will follow twice as fast
1284  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Дни которые возвращают веру в Альткоины. on: May 29, 2020, 07:23:59 PM
Кризис на крипто рынке начался, а монеты и проекты продолжали появлятся и среди них по любому есть хорошие, но отток инвесторов и интереса к крипте сделал пректы в ряд со скамными, но рост рынка все расставит на свои места!

Я думая, не совсем правильно говорить об оттоке инвесторов

Инвесторов как раз хватает - их всегда на самом деле хватало. Поэтому более правильно, на мой взгляд, вести речь об отсутствии толковых проектов, которые бы действительно закрывали ту или иную объективно существующую потребность. На всякий случай уточню, потребность в спекулятивных активах уже давным-давно закрыта и на этот рынок входа нет. Конкуренция, понимаишь!

Почему, отток инвесторов в кризис есть на каждом рынке и крипта не исключение, хотя тут не все понимают, что такое хеджироваться например или просто в кубышку, засунуть свои бабосы

Я бы не стал равнять инвесторов и спекулянтов

Для инвесторов любой кризис -- это как раз возможности для инвестирования. Что там барон Ротшильд говорил по этому поводу? Правильно, покупай, когда на улицах льется кровь, даже если это твоя собственная кровь. Ну и из более свежего можно привести слова Баффетта, который сказал по сути примерно то же самое, а именно покупай, когда все продают, продавай, когда все покупают (шиткоинов это не касается)
1285  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Что такое дешевая криптовалюта? on: May 29, 2020, 06:50:46 PM
У догикоина нет абсолютно никакой ценности

Вопрос на засыпку

Если у догов нет абсолютно никакой ценности, тогда почему они ходят в противофазе к битку? Было бы логичным ожидать как минимум падения догов по отношению к битку, когда биток начинает падать. Однако все происходит с точностью до наоборот. Биток падает, а ценник догов в битке растет. Весьма странное поведение -- если отрицать у догов наличие какой-либо ценности. Я уже не говорю о том, что это практически уникальный случай
1286  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's in the game, after all? on: May 29, 2020, 05:07:25 PM
Good luck to your gambling career,but please don't spread cheating in this forum,let us respect the gambling sites that we are playing with

Don't take it too seriously

Cheating here refers more to claims about the reported capacity to predict the poker game outcomes with "100 percent correct result to poker player within 0.1 seconds. That's the kind of bullshit you would expect from someone with a dozen of posts and all of them advertising some shit

It reminds me of the good old days when you could pay a few shekels and download a certain app to your mobile phone that would (allegedly) show girls without their clothes. Remember that, huh? It is unlikely that any however remotely reasonable person would ever fall for this nonsense
1287  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tyson vs Holyfield Charity Fight on: May 29, 2020, 01:55:01 PM
I'd pick Holyfield since he still trains and his body not as deteriorate as Tyson

And he is a few years older than Mike

If I'm not mistaken, Tyson had serious drug issues in the past, and they are likely catching up with him now. He looks much older than his real age. Lennox, who also happens to be 2 years older than Tyson, still looks like a 40-something if not for his gray hair (Holyfield looks fine too, just in case). I guess Lewis could easily take on both Tyson and Holyfield any day of the week, separately or collectively. Tyson, on the other hand, looks like he is 70 years old:



He is barely recognizable here
1288  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tyson vs Holyfield Charity Fight on: May 29, 2020, 10:49:08 AM
I honestly do not want to see this happen in public for charity amd entertainment. They're old but both guys are probably still competitive and heavy hitters. One punch to the head or body could instantly end the fight. They better be wearing some protective gears

I don't think they intend it this way

More likely, it is not going to be a real brawl (read, Evander's ears will remain whole). However, if Tyson goes nuts, which wouldn't come as surprise at all, things are going to spiral out of control pretty fast. If anything, I would rather see Lennox vs Holyfield fight, though I'm not sure if Lewis would agree to this unless he gets paid, and probably on the order of a few couple million dollars

Make no mistake, this will be a charity match with both opponents taking it easy. I'd bet on a draw or win on points for the more popular one aka Tyson

Holyfield would't agree to this outcome, either
1289  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Martingale revisited on: May 28, 2020, 01:27:42 PM
The good news is that it is the same as with any other complicated strategy out there that requires knowledge, expertise, and genuine understanding of how things hang in practice
That must be true, it all depends on the knowledge and experience practiced in the game. Maybe for you this strategy is useful, but not for me because of lack of knowledge when applying it.

Meanwhile, dice is my favorite game besides sports gambling. I can only win a few bets or more if the winning percentage is set at 60% or more. That is the best opportunity for me so far on dice. At least I can produce something even though its not much.

There is no need for any experience when trying martingale,it is all boiled down to doubling your bet after every lost bet.In theory it should work if you have an infinite bankroll

It is ironic how fast people are to point out that you need an infinite bankroll for martingale to work out

However, they forget that this holds true only for as infinite timeframes. As soon as we are talking about particular spans or periods of time (like a month or a year), which is always the case in real life, what it actually boils down to are the odds of surviving a losing streak of a certain number of rolls for this strategy to work out on average

It is not even so much interesting to explain the specifics of this approach (cause they are pretty simple, and you don't exactly need a master's degree to figure them out) as to get to understanding why people go on and on about martingale being a losing strategy. Any strategy in any domain will end up with a disaster if used mindlessly
1290  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Кризис в 2019 году ускорит рост криптовалют. on: May 28, 2020, 12:11:07 PM
Средние недельные инвестиции за 1 квартал 2019 года 3,2 млн. долл.
Средние недельные инвестиции за 1 квартал 2020 года 29,9 млн. долл.

А это ничего, что первый квартал закончился 31 марта?

То есть еще до того, как животворный вирус отправил экономику в жесткий нокдаун (зачеркнуто) локдаун? И хотелось бы видеть не средние недельные инвестиции (=среднюю температуру по больнице), а конкретно суммы инвестиций в разбивке по тем же неделям этого квартала. А то может так оказаться, что кто-то закачал в середине января в биток гигабакс, а по остальным неделям будет совсем пусто, если вообще не минуса. Статистика она такая, девка продажная (зачеркнуто) хитрая. За ней глаз да глаз нужен, чтобы не чудила
1291  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Stop calling it DICE. on: May 28, 2020, 11:06:09 AM
So how are they going to call those kind of games? Roll game maybe? What is rolling? A dice

Hi-lo, maybe?

I know that the name may refer to another type of game, which has nothing to do with dice. However, in the early history of online crypto gambling (not sure if there is or was offline crypto gambling, but bear with me), what we refer to here as dice had sometimes been dubbed a hi-lo game. You bet on the outcome which is either above or below a certain number on a scale of 0 to 100 (with decimals involved in more recent implementations), and in that fashion you are betting on a higher or lower number. Hence hi-lo
1292  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Martingale revisited on: May 28, 2020, 09:18:07 AM
I started out at exactly 37% win chance, then I decreased it to 36% (to win more, obviously), and I almost busted. After that I only increased the odds as my profits grew (I finished with a 42% win chance, to be exact). Ironically, I had first read about that magic number (37%) in the freebitco.in thread somewhere around here, and I discarded it as a mere superstition

Hm, interesting. And I thought there were no magic numbers in math!

I'm already running certain tests

But they will take some time as the analysis will require a pretty impressive amount of bets (aka sample size) on the order of at least 100k rolls per each percentage. After I'm done, I will likely start off a separate thread about this magic number, as well as try to find the original post in the freebitco.in thread where 37% had been first mentioned in this context (I remember I replied to it). Methinks, it might be a game-changer or even an eye-opener of sorts for a lot of martingalers if these assumptions or superstitions prove true after all
1293  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you gamble to escape your problem? on: May 27, 2020, 09:05:26 PM
I have read an article about why do people gamble, and one of the reasons is escapism, they tend to gamble to escape the reality of life. There is some person who gambles because of their problems from their friends, love ones, family and career, and one of their ways to escape those problems is to gamble

We already had a thorough discussion on the topic in this thread

Barring purely financial incentives and gambling addiction, the consensus is that people are gambling because they are extremely bored. It is not like they are escaping some real life problems unless, of course, their life has become a problem in and of itself. Most of the time people are looking into gambling because they feel it has turned dull and uninteresting. What they need is a proverbial adrenaline rush to feel alive again as they simply don't know how to make their life full and fulfilling in a different, more genuine way
1294  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Be a professional gambler on your own way. on: May 27, 2020, 06:57:50 PM
It is important because people are control freaks in life, while gambling helps them (us) realize how little control we actually have over the course of everyday events

And that is also why some people don't want to gamble at all

People may avoid gambling, and for good reasons

However, they can't internalize why they should until they actually try it out. Basically, there are two types of knowledge (and the way it is acquired), the so-called book knowledge and experiential learning. With respect to gambling, the first type you acquire via reading a stats textbook, for example, while the other type by actually gambling and probably losing. And while the book knowledge could probably help you correctly assess your chances in, say, dice, this knowledge is rather limited as it cannot be easily transferred to other areas of personal experience. The experiential learning, on the other hand, can be effortlessly applied to any other area where it can possibly be applied because you internalize this type of knowledge, i.e. it becomes part of you, and you start to use it, to live by it, even without consciously choosing so or thinking about it
1295  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Pun & Fun Thread on: May 27, 2020, 06:14:02 PM


A fiary
1296  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Martingale revisited on: May 27, 2020, 05:05:51 PM
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It just happens that with chances less than 37% (give or take) outliers become extreme even if averages still remain linear on a long enough timeframe. I don't know why it happens but it does. To sum it up, the entire story is about variance and how you deal with it

Are you sure you've done enough tests with chances less than 37% to make such conclusions? As far as I know, you've done millions of rolls with 37% win chance. But how many rolls with, say, 1% win chance were performed?

Maybe the variance from standard deviation can be higher with lower win chance, but I still feel it can be tamed with a large enough bankroll. Or, do you think that even 1 billion DOGE wouldn't be enough for that?

I think one billion bets will be enough to see the pattern

Unless you bust in the process, of course. Indeed, you can set the increase on loss to 0, so that to avoid busting altogether, but it may take too long. Anyway, we don't necessarily need to run so many bets to draw some conclusions, and it is probably worth a try after all (I may run some tests)

I started out at exactly 37% win chance, then I decreased it to 36% (to win more, obviously), and I almost busted. After that I only increased the odds as my profits grew (I finished with a 42% win chance, to be exact). Ironically, I had first read about that magic number (37%) in the freebitco.in thread somewhere around here, and I discarded it as a mere superstition
1297  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling hiding, rules ignored. on: May 27, 2020, 11:57:13 AM
However, it doesn't necessarily entail a disclosure of your identity. There are many places where you can buy crypto anonymously. For example, peer-to-peer marketplaces are specifically designed to help you out with anonymous crypto purchases. On some of them you don't even need to register (thus you don't disclose any personal details), and your Bitcoin address is never revealed to the seller so any track of your coins gets lost there. The bottom line is that online casinos are more anonymous overall

It is not important whether someone can track the movement of your cryptocurrencies to an online casino. It is important here that a person needs to put money into an account to buy cryptocurrencies. And they will immediately become visible to the tax service

The money is already in your bank account

No one knows how you are going to spend it, to buy Bitcoin or something else. Let me guess you don't know how P2P marketplaces work. But let me lend you a helping hand here. The seller doesn't know the buyer, he just receives, say, a transfer to his payment card, while his coins from his account on a marketplace are debited. But he doesn't know where they go because, technically, he doesn't even know whether it is his coins or someone else's

You don't understand me. If a person does not want to show the state, the Bank or someone else that he has 5 thousand dollars, then he will not go to open a Bank account and put this money in the account

Do you describe a hypothetical situation or your own circumstances?

Since you are talking like a hardened criminal -- a drug dealer, money launderer, or something to that tune. If so, it is unclear what you are doing here. Cause if you were, you would stay miles away from both regulated casinos and cryptocurrencies (as well as bitcointalk, for the record). Regardless, this has nothing to do with the fact that gambling at online casinos with cryptocurrency is more anonymous than at regular ones with cash. If you are going to challenge this point, please stick to the point (pardon the pun)
1298  Economy / Economics / Re: Continuous Printing Of Money Out Of Thin Air Has Never Being The Answer on: May 27, 2020, 09:13:44 AM
The question is ....Do they have a choice? If they leave the pandemic to play out and people are laid off by the millions, then the economy will collapse and the Dollar will then also collapse as a global reserve currency. So they artificially manipulate the system to generate spending, so that the US economy and businesses can get a boost to survive

And that instantly puts us back to square one

That is, whether the quarantine was any good in the first place. Just a few days ago a Nobel laureate in chemistry (Michael Levitt, to be exact) came up with the idea that it probably killed more people than saved (apart from ruining the economy). As he sees it, indiscriminate lockdown measures were a mistake because in all countries which were affected most by the coronavirus outbreak, the death total levels out at roughly the same fraction of the total population, no matter what measures had been taken to fight the pandemic. That essentially confirms that the quarantine was pretty much useless. In other words, the cure turned out worse than the disease

It is a knife with two sharp ends, because left without help, the US economy will collapse... so by injecting that "help", it keeps the economy alive and the Dollar stable

It works but does so very much according to the law of diminishing returns, and the response curve goes down abruptly after some point
1299  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Pun & Fun Thread on: May 26, 2020, 06:17:27 PM


Going viral ain't what it used to be
1300  Economy / Economics / Re: Continuous Printing Of Money Out Of Thin Air Has Never Being The Answer on: May 26, 2020, 05:43:53 PM
I don't think any country of the world will be considering printing of more money at this time. Printing more money without a proportional productivity will only result in the country's currency losing values. No country will want to be another Venezuela at this time a help may not come from anywhere

They may have no choice

Printing excessive amounts of money is a way to squeeze more juice from the local populace. This has been a viable economic policy since the ancient Greeks and under pharaohs as well (the Romans took the lead soon thereafter). The essence of inflation tax is that the government is the first in line to receive the new money, and thus it has extra buying power for free before prices start to rise everywhere. Indeed, it is not going to work forever, and in the end people will either switch to barter or start using a foreign currency like it occurred in Zimbabwe
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