Include me to these people, I'd rather let some of my bitcoin sleep on any exchange rather than paying those fees but the risk is really high because it can be gone anytime. But the fees are really giving me some regret when I press the send button. I want to save some and bitcoin isn't really the same as before, it's value increase and as well as the fees of it.


You said it, a lot of complains are coming out now that their transactions are stuck for more than 10 days.

Hmmm.. that's not really quite a lot to say but we have to see it first on what will be the first quarter of 2018 will be going through. If there is a positive movement and increase that will be seen during those times, then that's going to be one of the reason to believe on this. Personally I only want it to be stable at $20,000 but if this is plausible and will become true, bring it on.

We're heading there, impossible price speculations are starting to become reality in bitcoin. Going back to those years, no one did see that bitcoin come to this point that we are having 1 bitcoin at a very expensive rate of $16,000. $1,000,000 is possible as there are too high speculations that came out early this year and it has been said that it will be reached few more years from now on. When those people who are holding tons of altcoins that makes it market cap high and just recently jumped to bitcoin, it will happen.

Bad idea of putting 20% only to bitcoin. I'm even in the state of betting it all to bitcoin and will just sit while watching all the things that are happening to it right now. But as for spreading, here are some my of picks for that budget of $15,000.

1. Bitcoin - 50%
2. ETH - 20%
3. LTC - 15%
4. Monero - 15%

It's few but if you'll take time to see the movement of these two you'll be enough for it, though I didn't include some of the coins that are also interesting.

If you observed bitcoin's movement since then, well you will notice this thing. Not all the time the price will go up and it's even obvious that not all of the time the price will be stable in falling down. And you know what, the price is moving up again, it's already close to $17,000 so with these movements bitcoin is really giving us a lot of chance to buy back before it goes to the moon. Whom are the people here that took the profit and also took time to buy some more?

The same thing will just happen for this year and also for 2018 but there is something interesting with an interview I watched with John McAfee, he said that be prepare for something like war against banks and regulators. I can't remember the whole thing but it sounds like that and that makes sense since bitcoin is starting to become popular and many of investors are jumping to it and storing their wealth and treats it as investment.

This will happen too for sure since there are well known people in financing that said bitcoin will reach $40,000.

Nice Dean, I'm not that rich enough but you are very generous donating that sums of bucks out there.


Both of you are newbies and just posted here at the same time? I doubt it Dean will be giving you out any amount of donation but still nice try. I can't suggest an organization or group that you should send but consider those interesting projects or organizations that are really helping the needy from depressed areas. You will be in history Dean! Keep it up!

Look a day just passed and do you see on what's the price of bitcoin now? It's now $16,410 and that was a real quick increase for bitcoin. I don't think it will go down for some more at this moment since bitcoin futures are already in it's own market now and I believe that this will give bitcoin a good feed back and reaction for it's price. And I do see that bitcoin can get a higher value for the next weeks and also for the year of 2018.

I did taught some people but I didn't encouraged them to get into bitcoin and they are my own preferred statistics that I gather base on their interest with bitcoin. And that made me eager to let them understand how do bitcoin really works since here in my country there's a rival against bitcoin's good and bad purpose that is being covered by the medias and the dominance of articles are all about bitcoin is being a scam and other things that make it's reputation bad. I didn't encouraged them to invest, I let them chose their own path according to their will.

Some will survive but not all of them will. Those altcoins that has great community and valuable asset to the crypto world are the ones that will survive even without bitcoin. The ones that has real use or those coins that are valuable to a company and mostly relying their services there. But majority of them are riding and relying to bitcoin's lead.


Majority will just hold their bitcoins whatever sequence or scenarios will take place.

We don't want to miss that but if they are really for crypto's they'll probably adopt the technology of blockchain itself. When they started to make their own crypto's, they have freedom for doing it so but don't expect that it will be the major currency of all since they have made it for their own service still people will stay to bitcoin which is the most used crypto of all. Many companies did and even countries did this of making their own cryptocurrency but where are they now? They only add another bunch of altcoins.

That's very normal, a newbie doesn't need to think about such events like this. As others stated that when we see bitcoin's price starts to make it's own positive move, there will be a negative effect after a couple of days/week.

It has been up again, if you'll try to check the price of bitcoin again now it hit $16,020 again. So your worries needed to be gone for awhile now and you should start selling if you are still worrying this way.

Your welcome but still if you want to be successful in trading whether you'll use bot or not don't forget that trading manually exists. Each trader here started their career with trading through manual and this is what I prefer though there are some people who are also good with using bots but it's all of your choice.

It's annoying if you don't know how to use it properly, actually they are useful and very convenient once you used to it.

You should worry if bitcoin will be ban to your country but if you are out of the geographical location of those countries that started to ban then it's not your problem. Don't put yourself in too much stress and basically if there's a new country that will start to ban bitcoin, their citizens will be informed first so they can disseminate their bitcoin and start to sell it for their profit. Bans are possible but with these current trend of technology, they might even consider it.

Don't forget about the legendary origin of HODL!   I thought before when I was new in bitcoin this is just a misconception and just intentionally misspelling the term HOLD. But upon knowing this, well it is really an epic thing. At least gamekyuubi contributed something big to the history and entire cryptocurrency, this is not only applicable to bitcoin but also to alts. This will never be forgotten. gamekyuubi, you're a real legend man.

There are bots that are managing your portfolio for specific exchanges that you want to trade, there are popular bots here in forum like gunbot, cat and leonardo.

This is a sample of disadvantage and advantage review for gunbot
https://www.thehedgecoingroup.com/single-post/2017/09/30/Gunbot-Review

And the price starts to get lower now, hitting $14,000 tonight and there will be more of it I guess. Others are worried about bitcoin futures but I know there are big people who are waiting for a fueled momentum to start buy backing. Be aware of that moment guys if you want to ride another bull run, you had to start buying today. McAfee started to tweet about we don't have to worry about bitcoin futures https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/939919419387596802

That's what I'm thinking, while they are with futures of course they'll do something to follow the bitcoin market. But if this futures will be driven down by another whales that wanted to take over bitcoin market and starts their very own market, we're all done but I doubt that this will happen since bitcoin has been with many challenges before and this futures is just a basic peanuts that will also add another value for it.

No, not that really the price since there are few times that I transacted with the ATH but the fee isn't too high it goes around $0.05 - $0.6 I guess, I can't remember the exact amount. But that does matter too, when before 0.0001 BTC fee is very cheap and now if we will convert it with the current price of bitcoin that will make it not cheap anymore. Before it was like a cents to us but not anymore.

Bitcoin is the king of crypto's so that makes sense that it's growth will be continuous, what are the altcoins you are holding then? If those are the coins that has the potential then just hold it until it starts making it's pump.


Don't be disappointed, experience is the best teacher there is still a long run for the market of crypto's and what you need to do is just keep on working yourself base on what's happening. Studying about technical analysis and being familiar with the market.

Bitcoin still.