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1301  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: January 25, 2015, 05:18:13 PM
Stunning Turnaround! Donetsk Announces Mariupol and Debaltsevo Offensives, Refuses Poroshenko’s Fake Truce
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/01/24/stunning-turnaround-donetsk-announces-the-beginning-of-mariupol-offensive-refuses-poroshenkos-fake-truce/

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The Head of DNR (Donetsk People’s Republic) Alexander Zakharchenko has officially announced that the DNR army started a major offensive on the important port and key city of Mariupol. Some other stunning announcements were made, signalling a major turnaround!

First, there was the terrorist act in Volnovakha, Donetsk region, as a result of which at least 15 people died and 20 were wounded. Then, on January 22, 2015, Ukraine’s subversive terrorist group blew up a trolleybus on a crowded Donetsk city stop, killing 8 and injuring scores of people.

How did a Ukrainian subversive group got into Donetsk? Based on Minsk accords, Ukraine and DNR regularly exchanged prisoners. There were many complaints of Ukraine swindling Donbass by kidnapping various homeless people and random private citizens in cities far away from DNR and LNR, and than exchanging them for ukro-nazis or Kiev military. Feeling sorry for the poor prisoners, the Donbass people accepted everyone, until in December they discovered that 7 out of 200+ prisoners being exchanged were actually ukro-nazi subversive terrorists, sent to infiltrate Donetsk. These seven were arrested. However, as it turned out later, the entire group numbered 16. The remnant of that group executed the Donetsk bus stop terror act.

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1302  Other / Politics & Society / Re: English speaking soldiers in Mariupol on: January 25, 2015, 05:15:44 PM

From https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/01/22/false-flag-alert-kiev-regime-needs-war-to-survive-ukrainians-refuse-to-fight-kiev-uses-foreign-mercenaries-and-us-weapons/

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10. Donbass self-defence has just liberated the strategically important Donetsk Airport. Kiev troops shelled the peaceful citizens of Donetsk from the enormous territory of the airport. After the airport was taken, self-defence discovered large numbers of American-made weapons, as well as a lot of Polish-made items. Some of the dead left behind were Poles (with Polish IDs, wearing Polish-tagged clothes, etc.) Another group of dead bodies were identified as muslims based on specific anatomic details. Throughout 2014, Kiev touted its soldiers sitting inside the airport as ‘brave and invincible cyborgs.’ Self-defence now thinks that at least some ‘cyborgs’ were actually the muslim mercenaries who stayed behind. Several days prior, self-defense allowed everyone who wanted to leave before the final attack on the airport. All Ukrainians left unharmed. It’s interesting that prior to leaving, Ukrainians had burned all the corpses of their dead. For what purpose? To avoid identification?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR6ghtc-lsE

Drunk Polish mercenaries proudly show off their Polish-ness. When a journalist in the beginning says, ‘And these are our Ukrainian fighters,’ a Pole answers, ‘No, Polska’, meaning, Poland. The video is self-explanatory.


1303  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Does anyone have time to summarize/'translate' this crazy article? on: January 25, 2015, 05:12:58 PM
Enjoy? What lazyiness. People that think 9/11 was a hoax or a conspiracy are those that refuse to believe facts.

I will stop believing that it was a conspiracy, when the following facts are explained:
- How 3 buildings fell into their own footprint, when such kind a demolition is a demanding process, any mistake will cause the buildings to topple?
- How could all 3 buildings fall down at free-fall speed, when the accumulating rubble below should have been slowing down a natural collapse.
- How a fire that was burning sub-steel-melting-point for some 40 minutes made the building collapse, when similar fires, raging for hours in other steel building (with lower grade steel than the one used in WTC) didn't?
- How come steel and rock were melted at ground zero for weeks?
- How come there were no airplane fragments at the Pentagon site, and no extensive fire damage? The official argument for Pentagon case was: airplane fuel is not hot enough. Shouldn't they have come to at least a consistent explanation?
- How could a pilot who could barely control a Cessna, make a descending turn, zeroing in onto Pentagon?
- Where is the gold from WTC7?
- What about the acoustic analysis of explosions coming shortly before the towers were pulled down?

There are many more. There are also some quite obvious false leads among the conspiracy facts discussions, possibly having been planted later to discredit _any_ discussion around the topic.
1304  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crimea on: January 25, 2015, 10:11:50 AM

H: Where were they pulling this bullshit from? The only human rights being abused on the defending territories of Novorossia, is the right for life, as the life of people there is taken in artillery shelling by Kiev-Nazis. And finally making Crimean Tatar language one of the official languages of Crime is a human rights violation, yes?

You do simple always copy/past... ? Use your brain ... and try to get some contact with Tatar living there ... and you will see that this is all but not the paradise your claims !

You just do stupid russian propaganda ... But you know this ... not all people are paid to make propagand :-)

Lived in Crimea for some time a few years back, and talked to some Tatars. Also spent many summers of my childhood and youth there. I know what the sentiments were there first-hand. Pull another one, it has bells on.

There is an extremist minority among the Tatars, who are very vocal. What's interesting, the Western media, according to the Hypocrisy 101 are touting them as matures for freedom of Tatars, whereas their ideological brethren, who carried out the shootings in Paris are stamped as terrorists. The situation reminds of Chechenia: the Sudi-funded NATO-supplied Chechen terrorists during the 90s were touted as heroes in the West, and many are still living well in London. Now, on the other hand, the Chechens who want to live peacefully alongside Russians are protraited in the negative light, their leader ending up on the Western sanctions list.

About the paid for propaganda: I would advise you to stop projecting the modus operandi of NATO onto Russia. There is a Russian saying "Vsjo tajnoe stanovitsja javnym" - "All that is hidden eventually becomes apparent". Paying for an army of trolls to spout lies may give a feeling of superiority short term, but long term, it's a waste of money. Russia is better of remaining on the defensive, with a few people who still remember the meaning of the word "consciousness" acting as ambassadors, bridges, translators in their spare time.

For the Western audience, who don't want to go with any kind propaganda: go to Crimea (book in advance if you want to go there during summer) and see for yourself. Once there, make sure to visit the (almost) all-Tatar city of Bahchisaraj, which is quite beautiful and off the beaten tourist track.
1305  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: January 25, 2015, 10:08:31 AM
Remember the bus that exploded on a Ukrainian mine and how Poroshenko brought it all the way to Davos, trying to ride the tragedy?
Well, an Ukro-Nazi artillery shell hit a trolley-bus in Donetsk, killing lots of people, but the West and Kiev is silent...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWKyuVc24QY

Artillery shelling of Donetsk continues:
http://www.vz.ru/news/2015/1/25/726040.html

The Republican Army managed to break through to Mariupol.
http://lenta.ru/news/2015/01/24/mariupol1/
Kiev-Nazis started shelling Mariupol and were blaming it on the resistance. Even (and especially) NATO chief was quick to blame the DNR army for a coming humanitarian problems in Mariupol (while still turning a blind eye on what is going on in Donetsk and Lugansk). So DNR Army had to move quick to suppress the Urko-artillery.

The people of Mariupol remember well the massacre that Ukro-Nazis organised on the 9th of May (of all dates!) of 2014.

By the way, read the article from Lada Ray, that I linked to above, in full. A lot of connections become clear.
1306  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Sanction against Russia for West-choreographed conflict in Ukraine on: January 25, 2015, 09:03:45 AM
Google joined the sanctions.
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Здравствуйте,
Ваш аккаунт Google AdSense (CID: ********) расположен в Крыму, издатели из этого региона больше не могут сотрудничать с AdSense в связи с санкциями, которые недавно вступили в силу. По этой причине, Ваш аккаунт будет закрыт. К сожалению, Вы не сможете войти в свой аккаунт и мы не сможем перечислить невыплаченные средства с Вашего аккаунта.
Спасибо за участие в программе AdSense.
С уважением,
Команда Google AdSense
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Hello,
Your Google AdSense account(CID: ********) is located in the Crimea, the publishers of this region can no longer cooperate with AdSense in connection with the sanctions that have recently come into force. For this reason, your account will be closed. Unfortunately, you can not log into your account and we will not be able to transfer funds from your unpaid account.
Thank you for participating in the program AdSense.
Kind regards,
The Google AdSense Team

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С 1 февраля ограничения коснутся и функционала магазина приложений Google Play, так как загрузка приложений считается экспортом. Доступ сохранится к бесплатным услугам Google, таким как поиск, почта Gmail и картографический сервис
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On February 1, restrictions will affect and functional app store Google Play, as the loading application is considered exports. Continue to access free services Google, such as search, Gmail and mapping service
So Google joins the anti-democratic movement of the West and steals money to boot. Confirming the Western values!
1307  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crimea on: January 24, 2015, 10:11:16 AM
The long fight by the Crimean museums to get the Crimean Scythian gold back has begun in earnest:

University of Amsterdam replies to Crimean museums Scythian gold claim
http://itar-tass.com/en/russia/772789

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THE HAGUE, January 22 /TASS/. The University of Amsterdam has replied to a lawsuit filed by four Crimean museums demanding a return of Scythian gold exhibits from the Netherlands to Crimea.

A district court in Amsterdam which is dealing with the Crimean museums’ lawsuit to the University of Amsterdam said that it now expected the museums to answer the letter sent by the University of Amsterdam, the contents of which, however, has not been made public, by February 1, a court representative told TASS on Thursday.

Future of Scythian gold exhibits from Crimea remains uncertain
http://itar-tass.com/en/russia/772789

That district court said also something about involving Ukraine, even though the contract was between the museums. Tauridia, for example is n the UNESCO list and not returning gold to it will de fact degrade its historical heritage value.

EDIT: Note that the items from the Kiev museum have already been returned to it. If the case is resolved against the Crimean museums, this will create mistrust, where a museum cannot be sure that the contract it signs when lending its items will be observed. As a result, there will be far fure exchange exhibitions. Alas, contracts seem to be of little importance in Europe as of late (see: Mistral case). Also, I am not that hopeful that the historical items will be returned to their owners (these items never left Crimea before this exhibition, which was the first of this kind for the Crimean museums), as Holland seems to be in bed with Ukraine, given their handling of MH-17 shoot-down by Ukraine, discarding all the evidence, even though the Dutch citizens were among the most numerous victims.

The case of Crimean gold is sensitive to me - I've been to those museums, seen those items in their intended setting. It will be a great loss if they are not returned home. The most probable fate in that case: Kiev Nazis will sell them off to finance the genocidal civil war, and the priceless items will disperse among many unnamed shadowy collectors, never to be seen again...
1308  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: January 24, 2015, 10:04:24 AM
Headlines:

Ukraine suffers considerable losses — DPR Defense Ministry
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/773095

OSCE monitors report no movement of military hardware at Russia-DPR border crossing point
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/773085

UN requests full list of humanitarian items delivered to Donbass so far
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/773127

88 Russian journalists expelled from Ukraine - adviser to Ukraine’s Security Council chief
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/773110
(Yep, definitely freedom of speech)

More than 1.5 mln abandon homes due to conflict in east of Ukraine - UN
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/773125

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UNITED NATIONS, January 24. /TASS/. More than 1.5 million civilians have had to abandon their homes due to the conflict in the east of Ukraine, the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs said on Friday.

According to the OCHA, Ukraine as at January 21 had 921,000 internally displaced persons. Another 600,000 have taken refuge in the territories of neighbouring countries, mostly Russia.



False Flag Alert; Kiev Regime Needs War to Survive; Ukrainians Refuse to Fight; Foreign Mercenaries and NATO Weapons
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/01/22/false-flag-alert-kiev-regime-needs-war-to-survive-ukrainians-refuse-to-fight-kiev-uses-foreign-mercenaries-and-us-weapons/

A short fragment from the article:
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In January 2015 Poroshenko announced a surprise mass mobilization of up to 200,000 people, including 60-year-olds, women and children. This occurred immediately after he went to the Unity Parch in Paris and after the Volnovakha bus shelling by his army. Read: Urgent! Secret Link Between French False Flag Attacks and Ukraine and Ukraine’s Snowden: Whistleblower confirms MH17 was shot down by Ukraine.

Immediately several things happened, according to witnesses.

1. Huge lines consisting of healthy men trying to avoid mobilization formed in front of medical offices and hospitals.

2. Ukrainians were hiding from draft throughout 2014, as I wrote before. But now, draft-dodging is becoming an epidemic. People hide in cellars, change names, leave families behind and move to other cities and countries, as far from their home as possible.

3. Immigration to Russia has reached staggering proportions. What Russians are noticing with alarm is that, as opposed to 2014, when refugees from the Kiev junta atrocities flooded Russia, presently, the so-called maidanutie (those who are anti-Russian, pro-Kiev-maidan) are also flooding in to avoid mobilization. They are anti-Russian, yet, they run to Russia to avoid being drafted to the anti-Donbass ATO.

4. Kiev regime’s plan was to mobilize 50,000, and later, another 150,000 in stages. So far, they are only able to fulfil their quota by about 25-27% due to draft avoidance. Experts estimate that soon draft fulfillment will be down to 10% of the quota.

5. This morbid mobilization has been dubbed ‘mogilization’ from Rus/Ukr/Slav ‘mogila’ – grave. It has become known that Ukraine army acquired 80 hectares of land to bury its ATO soldiers. This information was freely posted and advertised on army site and all over Ukraine media. 80 hectares is enough to bury 160,000 people. The entire mobilization is supposed to be 200,000.

6. Despite such lofty mobilization numbers, even a fraction proved to be unreachable. Ukrainians write in social networks that they would rather go to jail than get drafted – it’s a 3-year sentence for refusing ‘mogilization.’ Advisors and experts in Ukraine are openly advising people to run away, hide, or, worst case scenario, go to jail.

7. According to the military experts I’ve been listening to, the sloppy, unprofessional, not to say, stupid actions of the Ukraine army attest to the fact that real commanders and army professionals don’t want to achieve victory in Donbass. Career officers don’t want to fight, as their heart isn’t in it. What can we talk about if the minister of defence in Kiev is a policeman. They couldn’t find a single military officer for this post.
1309  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: January 23, 2015, 08:20:30 PM
Donetsk Republican Army HQ reports about the highest one-time losses through the war. Over the last 24 hours the resistance lost 24 warriors and 30 more were wounded. Ukrainian side lost 50 soldiers, 3 tanks, 2 artillery units, 4 BMPs and BTRs:
http://ria.ru/world/20150123/1043900656.html

According to Zaharchenko, the resistance is leading an offensive in 5 directions, and Kiev cannot keep up:
http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1887694.html



According to UN 262 people were killed over the last 9 days.



Zaharchenko said that according to his intelligence reports, the Ukro-Nazis are pulling 3 mobile cremation units to the zone of conflict - presumably to remove bodies of the killed Ukrainian conscripts and then to report them as MiA or as captured by DNR.
1310  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: January 23, 2015, 07:17:47 PM
Poland makes a new move in their 200-year old project "Ukraine". After the history-falsifying statement by Yatsenjuks  that USSR invaded Ukraine and Nazi Germany during WWII, the Polish FM made an equally history-falsifying statement, saying that Osvencem was liberated by Ukrainians.
It was the Soviet Army that liberated it, a part of what was called the "Ukrainian front", which before that was called "Voronezh front". The divisions of the front consisted of all the nationalities of the Soviet Union, and not just Ukrainians.

The head of Polish FM first tried to explain away his statement, and even shifted the blame on to Russia for daring to point out the error. According to him "Russians want to show that the heritage of Red Army, of the victims of the Victory over Fascism belongs only to Russia". And it's despite what Lavrov said, that the victories of the Soviet Union belong to all Soviet people.
http://www.vz.ru/news/2015/1/23/725859.html

Russia acts as a guardian of that common history, and I think it shouldering all of the USSR debt after the break up and letting the member republics go into the bright future debt-free does give Russia some right there to keep the records strait.

Polish reps apologize to Russia for incorrect interpretation of Auschwitz liberation
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/773068



In this context, the following article by a Russian Jew, currently living in Israel, gives an interesting perspective, tying up the American war in Ukraine, the false flag in Paris, the hostility towards Russia, the economic war, and the selective freedom of speech in the West.

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/01/19/trolling-russia-israel-shamir/

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The edifice of world post-1991 order is collapsing right now before our eyes. President Putin’s decision to give a miss to the Auschwitz pilgrimage, right after his absence in Paris at the Charlie festival, gave it the last shove. It was good clean fun to troll Russia, as long as it stayed the course. Not anymore. Russia broke the rules.

Until now, Russia, like a country bumpkin in Eton, tried to belong. It attended the gathering of the grandees where it was shunned, paid its dues to European bodies that condemned it, patiently suffered ceaseless hectoring of the great powers and irritating baiting of East European small-timers alike. But something broke down. The lad does not want to belong anymore; he picked up his stuff and went home – just when they needed him to knee in Auschwitz.

...

While the present western regime is anti-Christian and anti-Muslim, it is pro-Jewish to an extent that defies a rational explanation. France had sent thousands of soldiers and policemen to defend Jewish institutions, though this defence antagonises their neighbours. While Charlie are glorified for insulting Christians and Muslims, Dieudonné has been sent to jail (just for a day, but with great fanfare) for annoying Jews. Actually, Charlie Hebdo dismissed a journalist for one sentence allegedly disrespectful for Jews. This unfairness is a source of aggravation: Muslims were laughed out of court when they complained against particularly vile Charlie’s cartoons, but Jews almost always win when they go to the court against their denigrators. (Full disclosure: I was also sued by LICRA, the French Jewish body, while my French publisher was devastated by their legal attacks).

...

One can be certain that Russians will not support the Middle Eastern crusade of NATO, as this military action was prepared at the Charlie demo in Paris. It is far from clear who killed the cartoonists, but Paris and Washington intend to use it for reigniting war in the Middle East. This time, Russia will be in opposition, and probably will use it as an opportunity to change the uncomfortable standoff in the Ukraine. Thus supporters of peace in the Middle East have a good reason to back Russia.
1311  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: January 23, 2015, 04:27:59 PM
By the way guys, if you support Novorossiya, it is possible to donate to them with bitcoin.

The other day when I was watching a documentary of the war, Matros, who is one of the NAF field commanders, was talking to people at the Donetsk airport, and I noticed printed along his body armor is the URL spasidonbass.ru.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLTkNYGATXc&x-yt-cl=84503534&x-yt-ts=1421914688&feature=player_embedded

That's the documentary I'm talking about.. if you skip to 10:56 in the video you can see Matros sitting down and clearly printed along the front of his body armor is the URL spasidonbass.ru.

Anyway, if you visit the site using google translate:

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=spasidonbass.ru

You can clearly see it's a platform for helping novorussia and helping with the humanitarian situation there.

The donations from the site go to helping novorussia, into the hands of people like Igor Strelkov, and if Matros has body armor that was from them then I think it is a very legit platform.

Anyway, if you go to the assist page, and scroll down, you can see their bitcoin address.

Here it is:

1Bg55YPr6Hf3VqGT6rfYAgrHuyZqh3Q8ux

So if you want to donate to the heroes of novorussia and maybe help out with the humanitarian situation there a little tiny bit, you can donate bitcoin to them.

It's not much but hey at least we can do something.

Yes, the site seems to be very much legit. It's a central hub, and not only for donations, but also the postal addresses in Russia and abroad, to where you can send parcels with help (Here's what is needed: http://spasidonbass.ru/spisok/) to go to people of Novorossia. The requests come both from the Novorossian army and from schools and hospitals.

The Bitcoin donation address comes from here:
http://spasidonbass.ru/make-donations/
It's one of the many donation methods that they accept.

PS: You don't need Google translate. The site is multi-lingual. Here's the English version:
http://spasidonbass.ru/en/
German, French, Italian and Spanish are also available.
1312  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: January 23, 2015, 03:41:03 PM
While Poroshenko was blabbering at Davos, brandishing a carefully cut-out bit of a bus wall with accurate round holes from anti-personnel mine shrapnel as some kind of talisman to guarantee him more money for war, and referencing Charlie, presumably to draw parallel between the two false flags, people in Donbass were dying. That day, 6 people were killed by artillery in Stahanovsk near Lugansk and 4 in Donetsk. Grid-shelling of Donetsk continues, with Ukro-Nazi artillery levelling one sector of the city before moving on to devastate the next.

Yes, myshownow, the airport was in the hands of the resistance. At one point they even responded to a distress call from Ukrainian soldiers, and dug out 6 of them from under the rubble, and delivered them to a hospital in Donetsk, where these Ukro-soldiers were treated alongside the wounded civilians and the children, who lost their parents to Ukrainian shelling. The parents of one of these captured soldiers were said to go to Donetsk to collect their boy, and last I heard the republican army were going to return the POW soldier to his parents

And about the airport. Zaharchenko says they are going to pull it (or what's left of it):
http://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2015/01/23/n_6852933.shtml



Another statement from Zaharchenko: he thinks DNR lost the information war on Internet. Feeling pessimistic, perchance?

http://www.vz.ru/news/2015/1/23/725870.html

A joke comes to mind:
Two tank drivers sip coffee with croissants at a Parisian cafe, with tanks parked on a curb. One says to the other:
- You know, the only thing I regret is us losing the information war...
1313  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Sanction against Russia for West-choreographed conflict in Ukraine on: January 23, 2015, 02:12:42 PM
A similar angle, but with Bitcoin flavour, in this article:

“Bitcoin is a Victim of Disinflation” – What’s the US Dollar a Victim of?
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/whats-the-us-dollar-a-victim-of/
1314  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Sanction against Russia for West-choreographed conflict in Ukraine on: January 21, 2015, 05:49:37 PM
Another good read:

Opinion: Perhaps you missed it: We’re at war with Russia
But nobody has explained what our vital interest is in Ukraine

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/perhaps-you-missed-it-were-at-war-with-russia-2015-01-20?siteid=yhoof2

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The U.S. has been waging economic, financial, trade, and political war against Russia and even kinetic war-by-proxy in Ukraine. Worryingly, nobody in power in the U.S. or Europe really seems willing to tell us exactly why.

...

The really bizarre part of this story is that I cannot yet find any credible analysis or commentary explaining exactly what the U.S.’s interests are in Ukraine that are so compelling as to risk increasing confrontation with Russia. And it bothers a great many analysts that the U.S. is on an increasingly combative course with yet another country without providing any evidence in support of its accusations and actions. Again.

...

If it looks like a war, acts like a war and smells like a war, it may just be a war. Everyone should be very concerned by these events, but especially European readers.
1315  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: January 21, 2015, 04:11:25 PM
Arkansas Takes Away 7 Homeschool Children  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=931376.0

I saw your post and was about to link it back to here.

Wanted to reference one point from Marianne's list in this regard of CPS' aversion to home-schooling:

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(58)  We cannot know what kind of life the children have with their parents. [Reason given by a municipality board as justification for letting the CPS take the children from a family and refusing to let them return home, in spite of copious evidence given before the board of a very good home life. After being taken the children had guards every minute at school to stop them from escaping, and were not even allowed to close the door when they had to go to the lavatory at school. Both parents had professions at which they worked in their home, and wanted to home-school the children, but the children had had plenty of other interaction with other children in the area.]

The list I referred to above:
An incomplete list of reasons given by the child protection services (CPS) of the Nordic countries for depriving children of their parents
is not one of only "first causes" of CPS involvement, but it may still go some way towards providing an answer to koshgel's question.
1316  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Obama to propose new taxes in State of the Union on: January 21, 2015, 03:18:24 PM
Entertaining read:
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-01-21/obama-s-state-of-the-union-foreign-policy-translated
1317  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: January 21, 2015, 03:11:21 PM

More about it:
Ukraine president heckled by protesters in Switzerland
http://rt.com/news/224467-poroshenko-zurich-university-speech/

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His delivery as principal speaker of this years’ lecture at the University of Zurich was disrupted, when one of the attendees shouted: “I don’t want to sit with someone in this room who is killing children!”

The outburst was followed with a concert of booing, which left the Ukrainian leader speechless for several seconds, and he then tried to continue his speech with little success. Poroshenko regained his composure after hearing on obscene phrase in Russian rising over the hum.

“If anybody understands what she said, that is exactly the cultural level of this lady,” Poroshenko said with a laugh. “Glory to Ukraine,” he added in Ukrainian.

Good reader comment:

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'Bout time for people of the world to start putting all these zio-criminals in shackles and leading them to prison. We simply cannot live in "their" world anymore. In their world, we are nothing more than slave cattle. We need a world for humans, controlled by humans, who live in forever peace.
1318  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ukraine rejects Russia Gazprom gas price hike on: January 21, 2015, 03:07:45 PM
If I remember correctly, Russia can demand payment for its loan it provided to the government of Ukraine and which is due in the coming spring (March?). This would effectively mean the end of this failed state as we know it... Cool

And they are biting the hand which feeds them, lol

You are correct. The condition on which Ukrainian state obligation were bought by Russia in december 2013, was that Ukrainian state debt would not exceed 60% of its GDP. It's now between 64% and 72%, so Russia can ask for repayment. It's unlikely, through, that it will do so. Russia has been trying to keep Ukraine afloat, what with discounted gas and free (domestic price, no prepayment) deliveries of coal. Defaulting Ukraine would be counter-productive to these efforts. But there are limits on how much biting Russia will take...

Ukraine will not hurry to pay either. The Nazis in Kiev are trying to convince Europe that they are at war with Russia (while being careful not to declare war) precisely so as to not pay their debts. The same strategy is used by France in the Mistral non-deliveries.
1319  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 'Designer babies' debate should start, scientists say on: January 20, 2015, 11:23:35 PM
I first thought I was seeing double or these two threads were cloned.  Grin
1320  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: January 20, 2015, 11:07:42 PM

Yes, I bet he didn't expect that after the complacent reception by Merkel and co. Normal people out there can still think for themselves! Good!

A girl from the audience calls that she does not want to listen to the killer of children, and Poroshenko replies "Thank you very much indeed"... Really?!  Roll Eyes



And while Poroshenko was hypocritically (trying) to talk about how he keeps peace and observes human rights in Ukraine (and insulting the assembled students in the process), more people were killed by shelling - 4 in Donetsk, where shelling was almost continuous, covering seemingly systematically a quarter after quarter, levelling homes with the ground.

One episode touched me especially - an interview of a very old woman, who said that when she was a 10-year-old girl, she was under the Nazi German occupation, and the situation back then was not as scary/brutal as it is now under Ukro-Nazis.
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