Sanction against Russia for West-choreographed conflict in Ukraine

[Nemo1024]

Kiev (and we know that Kiev is just a dummy extension of US StateDep) asks EU to extend the conditions for lifting sanctions against Russia with one more clause: that Russia should compensate (the imaginary) losses to Ukraine. We should remember that Ukraine got for free all the infrastracture and industry from the Soviet Union, the inheritance that they managed to royally squander. And a quote: "there can't be any illusions about normalising the situation in Ukraine by the means of constructive cooperation with Russia"

http://lenta.ru/news/2015/01/19/sanctions/

Of course: it's not Russia that plunged Ukraine into chaos, but US/EU, Russia is not a part in the conflict, but an observer at best and a victim at worst. However many sanctions are imposed on it, Russia cannot do anything about the murderous Nazi regime that was installed in Kiev by USA and EU, shot of raising the Russian flag over the Kiev equivalent of Reichstag.

[zezt]

Its is incredible how Europe is going along for the ride with the US and they are being led into financial ruin.
Perhaps the fight isn't between the US and Russia. Perhaps the US and Russia are working together to separate Europe.
Then each side will take a few counties under them. Food for thought?

[Nemo1024]

Its is incredible how Europe is going along for the ride with the US and they are being led into financial ruin.
Perhaps the fight isn't between the US and Russia. Perhaps the US and Russia are working together to separate Europe.
Then each side will take a few counties under them. Food for thought?

I doubt that. The Occam's razor and simple observations say that all EU tops are bought or blackmailed by US.

Oh, and here is the mother of all sanctions: Hypocrisy and huge lies, made to look like truth:

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//TEXT+TA+P8-TA-2015-0011+0+DOC+XML+V0//EN&language=EN

[Nemo1024]

Want to add to my comment above:
Only a year ago Europe (and by it I mean EU and Russia, as both are Europe) was enjoying a relatively peaceful and prosperous cooperation, which was beneficial for all. Guess who has the most to gain my throwing a spanner into the gears?


From the EU resolution:

26.  Welcomes the decision by the French Government to halt the delivery of the Mistral helicopter carriers, and calls on all Member States to take a similar line regarding exports not covered by the EU sanctions decisions, in particular as regards arms and dual-use materials;

So, EU welcome the French decision to shoot itself in the foot, and it urges other member states to demonstrate that the contracts with EU are not worth the paper they are written on. French shipbuilding industry now follows the fate of the renowned Polish and Greek shipbuilders - into oblivion.

Oh, and we already got a taste of how EU honours the contracts: Holland still sits on the Scythian gold from Crimean museums, which which it had individual lease contracts, and which it neglects to observe.


Fun bit of reading:

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/01/19/trolling-russia-israel-shamir/

The edifice of world post-1991 order is collapsing right now before our eyes. President Putin’s decision to give a miss to the Auschwitz pilgrimage, right after his absence in Paris at the Charlie festival, gave it the last shove. It was good clean fun to troll Russia, as long as it stayed the course. Not anymore. Russia broke the rules.

Until now, Russia, like a country bumpkin in Eton, tried to belong. It attended the gathering of the grandees where it was shunned, paid its dues to European bodies that condemned it, patiently suffered ceaseless hectoring of the great powers and irritating baiting of East European small-timers alike. But something broke down. The lad does not want to belong anymore; he picked up his stuff and went home – just when they needed him to knee in Auschwitz.

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[zezt]

Its is incredible how Europe is going along for the ride with the US and they are being led into financial ruin.
Perhaps the fight isn't between the US and Russia. Perhaps the US and Russia are working together to separate Europe.
Then each side will take a few counties under them. Food for thought?

I doubt that. The Occam's razor and simple observations say that all EU tops are bought or blackmailed by US.

Oh, and here is the mother of all sanctions: Hypocrisy and huge lies, made to look like truth:

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//TEXT+TA+P8-TA-2015-0011+0+DOC+XML+V0//EN&language=EN

I don't doubt this for one minute. Watch the media over the next few weeks and the West will try to link the terrorists in France with Russia.

[Nemo1024]

I don't doubt this for one minute. Watch the media over the next few weeks and the West will try to link the terrorists in France with Russia.

That won't surprise me. There was already something in the news about Russia-related terrorists being arrested in Paris...


Ukrainian offensive in Donbass makes sanctions against Russia ‘immoral’ – Duma chief
http://rt.com/politics/224407-sanctions-immoral-russia-naryshkin/

The Ukrainian military’s new offensive against the breakaway republics in Donbass renders any anti-Russian sanctions immoral, and demonstrates the West’s true objectives, says Sergey Naryshkin, the State Duma speaker.

From
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-01-21/obama-s-state-of-the-union-foreign-policy-translated

Obama: Last year, as we were doing the hard work of imposing sanctions along with our allies, some suggested that Mr. Putin’s aggression was a masterful display of strategy and strength.  Well, today, it is America that stands strong and united with our allies, while Russia is isolated, with its economy in tatters.

Translation: Thank Allah that the Saudis, for who knows what reason, tanked the entire oil market. Maybe they were trying to squeeze Iran and Putin got caught up in it? Who cares? Now I can be the rooster taking credit for the sunrise. We chose sanctions because that’s about as much as we could stomach. It’s only Ukraine. But hey, sometimes you get lucky.

 

[Nemo1024]

Another good read:

Opinion: Perhaps you missed it: We’re at war with Russia
But nobody has explained what our vital interest is in Ukraine
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/perhaps-you-missed-it-were-at-war-with-russia-2015-01-20?siteid=yhoof2

The U.S. has been waging economic, financial, trade, and political war against Russia and even kinetic war-by-proxy in Ukraine. Worryingly, nobody in power in the U.S. or Europe really seems willing to tell us exactly why.

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The really bizarre part of this story is that I cannot yet find any credible analysis or commentary explaining exactly what the U.S.’s interests are in Ukraine that are so compelling as to risk increasing confrontation with Russia. And it bothers a great many analysts that the U.S. is on an increasingly combative course with yet another country without providing any evidence in support of its accusations and actions. Again.

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If it looks like a war, acts like a war and smells like a war, it may just be a war. Everyone should be very concerned by these events, but especially European readers.

[Nemo1024]

A similar angle, but with Bitcoin flavour, in this article:

“Bitcoin is a Victim of Disinflation” – What’s the US Dollar a Victim of?
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/whats-the-us-dollar-a-victim-of/

[zezt]

Europe is only doing what Obama says because Germany is being blackmailed!
Remember the whole spy scandal with the US spying on Germany. Well they must have got some
juicy info from the Germans that can't be leaked. So Germany does what the US says and sanctions Russia for nothing or
the US will spill the beans!

[Rishblitz]

Its is incredible how Europe is going along for the ride with the US and they are being led into financial ruin.
Perhaps the fight isn't between the US and Russia. Perhaps the US and Russia are working together to separate Europe.
Then each side will take a few counties under them. Food for thought?

America and Europe have been close ever since ww2

[Rishblitz]

Interesting, I'd given up on marketwatch as completely agenda driven. That adds up with the situation as I see it though, the US either has to start another war or go into economic meltdown, the petrodollar is losing its monopoly and the only thing with a chance of saving it is the millitary-industrial complex.

That agenda was behind Syria, even the same guy with the same baseless accusation, surprising Iran wasn't the target this time  but they're bordered by Iraq and Afghanistan so the most likely reason is to force Europe into conflict. If so it will backfire, anti US sentiment in Europe is at a height and the lies told about Iraq didn't work against Syria so they're even less likely to work against Russia who have clearly been making every attempt to avoid conflict, if there's any feelings of aggression in Europe it will be towards the US.

the u.s is waiting for iran to get nukes so that the coalition forces can invade a country with actual wmds this time.

[Rishblitz]

...
the u.s is waiting for iran to get nukes so that the coalition forces can invade a country with actual wmds this time.

They can always plant some, "Can you open the boot of your car sir... what's this we have here then? It appears to be a nuclear warhead of some description..."

that's actually pretty funny but yeah they could but it wouldn't be as credible.

[Rishblitz]

...
the u.s is waiting for iran to get nukes so that the coalition forces can invade a country with actual wmds this time.

They can always plant some, "Can you open the boot of your car sir... what's this we have here then? It appears to be a nuclear warhead of some description..."

that's actually pretty funny but yeah they could but it wouldn't be as credible.

Maybe if it was strapped to a camel...

That's pretty funny but in all seriousness if Russia doesn't get invaded iran will unless some unseen event happens.

[fsb4000]

Google joined the sanctions.

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Cпacибo зa yчacтиe в пpoгpaммe AdSense.
C yвaжeниeм,
Кoмaндa Google AdSense

Hello,
Your Google AdSense account(CID: ********) is located in the Crimea, the publishers of this region can no longer cooperate with AdSense in connection with the sanctions that have recently come into force. For this reason, your account will be closed. Unfortunately, you can not log into your account and we will not be able to transfer funds from your unpaid account.
Thank you for participating in the program AdSense.
Kind regards,
The Google AdSense Team

C 1 фeвpaля oгpaничeния кocнyтcя и фyнкциoнaлa мaгaзинa пpилoжeний Google Play, тaк кaк зaгpyзкa пpилoжeний cчитaeтcя экcпopтoм. Дocтyп coxpaнитcя к бecплaтным ycлyгaм Google, тaким кaк пoиcк, пoчтa Gmail и кapтoгpaфичecкий cepвиc

On February 1, restrictions will affect and functional app store Google Play, as the loading application is considered exports. Continue to access free services Google, such as search, Gmail and mapping service

[Nemo1024]

Google joined the sanctions.

Здpaвcтвyйтe,
Baш aккayнт Google AdSense (CID: ********) pacпoлoжeн в Кpымy, издaтeли из этoгo peгиoнa бoльшe нe мoгyт coтpyдничaть c AdSense в cвязи c caнкциями, кoтopыe нeдaвнo вcтyпили в cилy. Пo этoй пpичинe, Baш aккayнт бyдeт зaкpыт. К coжaлeнию, Bы нe cмoжeтe вoйти в cвoй aккayнт и мы нe cмoжeм пepeчиcлить нeвыплaчeнныe cpeдcтвa c Baшeгo aккayнтa.
Cпacибo зa yчacтиe в пpoгpaммe AdSense.
C yвaжeниeм,
Кoмaндa Google AdSense

Hello,
Your Google AdSense account(CID: ********) is located in the Crimea, the publishers of this region can no longer cooperate with AdSense in connection with the sanctions that have recently come into force. For this reason, your account will be closed. Unfortunately, you can not log into your account and we will not be able to transfer funds from your unpaid account.
Thank you for participating in the program AdSense.
Kind regards,
The Google AdSense Team

C 1 фeвpaля oгpaничeния кocнyтcя и фyнкциoнaлa мaгaзинa пpилoжeний Google Play, тaк кaк зaгpyзкa пpилoжeний cчитaeтcя экcпopтoм. Дocтyп coxpaнитcя к бecплaтным ycлyгaм Google, тaким кaк пoиcк, пoчтa Gmail и кapтoгpaфичecкий cepвиc

On February 1, restrictions will affect and functional app store Google Play, as the loading application is considered exports. Continue to access free services Google, such as search, Gmail and mapping service

So Google joins the anti-democratic movement of the West and steals money to boot. Confirming the Western values!

[Souldream]

So Google joins the anti-democratic movement of the West and steals money to boot. Confirming the Western values!

Anti-democratic movement ... do we need to show you video how has been the crimea voting ... when each voter was checked by army man to see the vote ... 

Pot calling the kettle black ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf5HChDXVSc

[Nemo1024]

The economic war continues. S&P lowers Russia's rating to junk BB+

Quite a funny move, further undermining what reputation S&P might have had, given the following:

Russia increases gold purchases by 123%
http://rt.com/business/227755-russia-record-gold-purchase/

[Nemo1024]

Russia continues with counter-sanctions against the West's illegal (according to WTO) sanctions.

This time, the prohibition is extended to construction and building machines. The countries of the Eurasian Union, are, understandably, not affected.
http://www.vestifinance.ru/articles/52792?iddd

[Nemo1024]

Biden shows his true colours once again:

Biden says Europeans questioning Russia sanctions 'inappropriate, annoying' – Spiegel
http://rt.com/news/230143-biden-sanctions-europe-russia/

US Vice President Joe Biden has called on European countries to show unity when it comes to sanctions against Russia, labeling the dissenting voices “inappropriate and annoying”, reported ‘Der Spiegel’, quoting the participants of the Brussels meeting.

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“Putin continues to call for new peace plans as his troops roll through the Ukrainian countryside and he absolutely ignores every agreement that his country has signed in the past... including in Minsk,” Biden said, referring to “little green men”, but failing to provide any exact details of Russia's alleged military presence in the region.

Couple of great reader comments:

Z Gus   

What Biden says is: "Please don't leave us alone EU! How can we create wars all over the world alone? Don't desert us!"

RankAuthority   
   
Get real Biden...!!! Where is your proof? If US satellites can read your license plate number they can confirm Russian tanks and troops... Where is it? Are there idiots to believe if it existed, it would not be all over CNN? Does your mere statement make it real? However, your comment is appreciated because it inspires one toward critical thought, which is very good...Naturally, you hope there is no critical independent thinking... But, in reality their comments are inspiring it....thank you...

[skinbrake]

It looks like now the US may try to escape their escalating war through the excuse that the EU will not support war in Europe.