di vip.bitcoin.co.id aja, saya sudah banyak transaksi disitu
tapi sebelumnya harus verifikasi data apabila mau jual/beli
sekarang ini yg paling rekomended adalah vip karena sudah terpercaya banget dan hanya ini exchnger di indonesia yg paling besar transaksinya kalau verifikasi berapa lama gan ? apa misal kalau kita vefrifikasi bisa satu hari langsung proses kalau fotonya jelas data-data dirinya juga terlihat jelas gak sampe 1 hari uah verif kok. vip.bitcoin memang rekomen tapi juga di sertai fee yang lumayan gede loh alternatif bisa dijual ke orang saya rekomendasikan si AHAS feenya lebih kecil dari VIP |
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Ya , sesuai dengan judulnya . saya sejak bisa menghasilkan uang dari internet yang hanya bermodalkan handphone sampai bisa beli laptop . mendapatkan bisik bisik tentangga kurang bagus. Saya di kira seorang penjudi , Bobol Atm , Togel Dan lebih parahnya pelihara tuyul. Dan sempat ada yg bertanya kepada saya . saya langsung jawab " Dapat uang dari beli kuaci" adakah yang sama seperti saya?. Bingung mau di jelaskan juga belum tentu paham. Gx di jelaskan juga makin jadi . bisa bisa saya di nantinya dituduh seperti dimas kanjeng
anjir bukannya memang pelihara tuyul :v tuyulnya dikasih makan kuota kan pak. kalau didesa mah sering juga ditanya gitu maklumkan kebanyakan warga desa masih belum mengerti kecanggihan teknologi pak. kalau bapak-bapak atau ibuk-ibuk yang tanya sering tak jawab dari internet tapi kalau yang tanya temen seumuran tak jawab dari ngepet  |
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You can use the wallet xapo because from what I hear they negate the transaction fee but I've never tried and because you just send a little bitcoin so fee it feels a lot.
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So I was just watching the exchange section at polo and I was happened to be on the AMP exchange page, I noticed something quite incredible and would be interested in what you guys think about it.
So amp was being sold at about 0.00007756 and was at like 10%+(green) and then suddenly there came a sell order of about 60k+ amps with price only 0.00007150
Now why would someone actually sell at such a low price when the price for the moment is quite high?
It looked quite strange to me, what do you guys think?
maybe the dev or investors to lower the price to sell wall could be just a trader who have got profit targets and 60k+ it's still a reasonable value previously ever happens even value more than that. |
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experience is important the profesianal trader always has a long experience which molds him. emotional Intelligence mean can control the emotions of fear excessive when there has been no change in price and things analysis like read candlestick.
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wallet online juga aman kok asalkan pinter-pinter jaga privasi walletnya dan hati-hati terhadap phising kecuali kalau ada masalah pada situs penyedia wallet bitcoin. pakai aja kata sandi yang rumit dan Google Authenticator kayak yang ada di vipbitcoin. sampai sekarang wallet saya tidak pernah ada masalah
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I have never used a bot I think it is less effective because we don't directly monitor the state of the market and likely bot will not work correctly is things might be detrimental to us. I prefer the manual method.
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In trading how do you know if it is time to still hold or is it the right time to sell? Do you go buy your profit margin or actually wait for the highest possible peak?
For example if you're earning like 10% of your investment, would you just sell or would you be interested in waiting and seeing if it goes more up so you could earn more, in doing that its possible that it may go down and you then earn like 5-8%
But what is your process in this? How do you go about hold and sell timings?
every trade I always have a goal of how much I can earn possible profits and from what you say I think it's better to sell because we do not know the price will go up or down. play safe |
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using a bot for trading I think it is less effective in addition to our calculations are not necessarily appropriate because anything can happened in trading. and the possibility of our programs can be screwed just like one wrong character in the program that could lead to trading at random or not work.
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How different is trading from just gambling? I know there seems to be a big difference with technical analysis and whatnot, but in the end aren't you just betting on something completely random?
trading more sense than gambling and we can minimize the loss in trading. gambling is more to the game that relies on pure luck but in trading is calculation. |
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Hello folks! I'm thinking about starting to trade with Bitcoin, but I see people saying that It's risky & almost like gambling. I think that I mis-understand the meaning of trading. For me trading Is for EXAMPLE, buying Bitcoin when It's at 550$ and selling It when It's at 670$. This Isn't risky because If Its value doesn't Increase, you'll just have to keep It until It gets higher enough, Is this trading? I would really appreciate If people clarified more! Thankx  The bitcoin trading such as trade in general, differ only in goods. why risk? all trades are at risk if prices did not rise they will experience the same loss as trade bitcoin and because price of bitcoin fluctuatif will be difficult to determine the right time to buy and sell bitcoin. |
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you are less apt to ask here and I guess all the people here have never stopped gambling. The first you should do is stop accessing gambling the rest you can wrap yourself with work or something else that takes your time.
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Well , let's say you made about 0.02-0.03 BTC , can you start trading ? is there any limits for trading like minimum and maximum amount ?
where you guys think is a good place to start a trade ? share your trading experiments and recommendation.
I also would like to know at which amount you guys started trading [ personal experiment ].
Edit :
Sorry, i think i posted it in wrong section, if possible mod can you move it to the right section?
Thanks
Yes! there is a limits for trading in every exchange platform like in yobit you can transfer bitcoin there at minimum 0.001 BTC this was my experienced to that site, then 0.002 BTC in bittrex exchanges site. This was jsut all I know, and 0.03 BTC really good enough for you to make start trade in the trading platform. Actually in practising trading, 0.01 BTC is enough in order to mamke a trade more effecitve since if you will go lower than that, it would not be worth it and there is no thrill in your trading. As you have thinked that have done it effectively, that's the time you should trde with larger amount of btc. regardless of the amount bitcoin you have for trading but could be more effective if you have 0.05 bitcoin or more because we can't expect the price of altcoin rose 3% more each day. a few tips when there is wall buy the right time to take action. |
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i choose sell and get whatever left of investment in altcoin while falling it's might rise will be more difficult and if you're too long keep is likely altcoin value will fall then so worthless.
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0. si gan pilih yang mana, semuanya sulit.
1. signature campaign btc =sulit, harus pakai bahasa inggris, peserta terbatas, saingan sama master.
2. signature campaign alt =lama, belum tentu sukses juga
3. translator bounty = keroyokan sama kucing garong
4. design/jasa programmer = tidak ngerti, dasarnya saja tidak punya
5. giveaway = untung2an, cuma ngejar mbtc
6 . contest = balik lagi ke nomor 4
7. blog, video bounty = kembangkan blog min 3 bulan, video boros kuotah
8. scamming people = dikeroyok red trust/bann permanent
9. judi = sungguh ter-la-lu
10. trading = masih belajar, takut lose depo
11. mining = banyak yang bilang rugi, investasi juga banyak yang nipu
12. faucet, captcha = cape ngetik 1000 an capthca merusak mata
13. investasi = risiko tinggi
14. ini pikiran semua pemula, kalau mau gampang..................................makanya............................... ...belajar..............................donk
1 sampai 6 masih belum mengerti masih semangat nulis2 sambil baca thread luar. saya rasa banyak peluang untuk desain avatar logo, dan bbcode signature, peminatnya langka namun gajinya besar, semua orang pasti bisa, hanya cenderung enggan untuk searching tools dan oprek2 edit picture/sig termasuk saya. Nah benar gan, semakin banyak peserta yang ikut semakin kecil pula bayaran yang kita dapatkan. begitu juga sebaliknya, semakin sedikit yang join kontes atau bountynya semakin besar bayaran yang kita peroleh. Seperti yang agan bilang diatas dengan desain logo atau bbcode signature, pasti peminat nya sedikit sehingga bayarannya tinggi. gue sedikit ekstrim 9-10-13, worth for me, i like challenges dulu kuliah salah jurusan, ambilnya teknik industri, senangnya pemrograman sedikit2, kalau masuk informatika mungkin no 4 sudah professional person. Susah memang relatif, persyaratan sebenarnya adalah niat meluangkan waktu, semakin tua-waktu semakin sibuk, agak nyesal dulu hari hari hanya diisi dengan hangout, pacaran, game, dan travelling. sebagai pemula termasuk ane lebih bagus cari yang gratis2 dulu saja sambil belajar sambil mengumpulkan modal dari yang gratis, skill sudah memadai modal dari gratisan juga sudah cukup trading pun akan sedikit nyantai karena dana juga berasal dari gratis juga gua suka yang no 14. pengalaman mau join signature bitcoin gak pernah diterima jadinya join signature altcoin dan dapet bitcoin hanya dari nomer 9 (sungguh ter-nya-bu). 10. 12 tapi lumayanlah bisa buat beli indom**. sering nyoba ikut GiveAway tapi gak pernah dapet. |
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Apa fungsi bitcoin bagi agan ? Apakah sebagai investasi / sebagai mata uang / keduanya  Ane sih keduanya fungsi bitcoin bagiku sebagai mata uang karena setiap aku mendapatkan bitcoin aku lebih suka untuk membelanjakannya dibanding untuk investasi dan kupikir aku hanya mendapat sedikit bitcoin jadi untuk dijadikan investasi itu terlalu kecil mungkin hanya akan menghasilkan sedikit profits. |
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It is better to buy the bitcoin and HODL. Given current situation in bitcoin world it is better to remain observer. There are no much reliable opportunities in bitcoin world when it comes to investment.
Yeah its difficult to find good place to invest bitcoins but to buy bitcoins he also need capital as price is not too low and it won't be possible for everyone to invest that huge amount in buying bitcoins so if he don't have money then he can start earning them. Finding a good site for investment in bitcoins is a really difficult task. I have one real investment site which is paying me in real. Rest i have tried few and they all scam after a month or so. most sites are bitcoin investment actually HYIP or money game then buy and hold has been spelled out as investment because value of bitcoin in the future will increase. because bitcoin is the currency that is quite popular and high prices so it is difficult to bitcoin have rapid movement like altcoin. |
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They use dice bot because they are lazy gamblers, and the main reason is they are doing the martingale technique in betting. But I do not follow that using bot in dice because that method will not work due to house edge and still in the long run we lose.
using a bot is not only because of being lazy or not, a bot makes everything so much easier. and you would never understand what i mean unless you try one out. in anything, whether it is in gambling or in trading or even in some other regular works. Of course that any piece of software that saves time and effort is going to make thing easier, however the question is, Why? Since the bot does not help you win in any form, then the bot is helping you to lose even faster. I can strongly agree with that. Bot isn't the answer to win on again, it ca cause you to lose sometimes sice house edge is systematic. I would still prefer to play manually so that I can manage to control every ease it takes. I bet when you are in bad streaks, you will get angry and greedy then you will bet all your money to recover your loss before. I can say, using dice bot is more safer than manually. safer the bot or manually I think is same but the difference is the person. from my experience using a bot because it does not take a lot of time so it can do other work but setting a bit tricky so better manually. |
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I think saving bitcoin is a good idea.
Because when you save bitcoin it is
like an investment that you can use
when you need it.
Its really a good idea to save bitcoin for the future and yes it is a good investment and there are lots of users of it do treat it as an investment but we should not fully rely on it because there are instances that prices might crash in the future thats why we just save or buy only the amount we can afford to lose up. Yeah, even though Bitcoin is a great investment, you should not put all your money in it because we all know that Bitcoin is very volatile and weak. Its price can be easily manipulated by the Whales and if they want to dump that in an instant, they can. Also, I believe in the saying that "Don't put all your eggs in one basket". Try to find another investment that would surely give you a decent amount of profit. In this case, you can minimize the effect of loss in case Bitcoin is destroyed (which is impossible to happen). investment is not just a silence to profits if you people in silence without doing anything after investing it's not worth if you want to invest bitcoin because fluktuatif. it would be better to invest in gold |
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I wonder if someone still should get into trading Bitcoin at this point? There was a time with incredible aggresive swings so that daytrading was interesting, but now the movements appear but much slower. Is it still worth it to trade?
I think it's still worth it because there are movements although it was slow to be honest I'm not interested in bitcoin trading today and more focus to altcoin because moves fast |
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