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13261  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2016-08-12]Bitcoin Withdrawals Peak as Bitfinex Goes Live Again on: August 15, 2016, 10:50:36 PM
With Bitfinex being back on track (kinda), I wouldn't be surprised if they pull off another "hack" trick after a few years. Especially when (if) the owners are somehow involved in this whole thing. Easy money. And if the next time the exchange doesn't manage to stand up again, then they at least walk out with plenty of millions once again.

I really hope not, but I suppose it is conceivable. I just can't wrap my head around what people consider acceptable in Bitcoinland and never will.

When I first properly looked into Bitcoin it was early/mid 2013 and Gox was still the go to place mentioned everywhere. I spent five minutes googling away and sat there gasping that an operation that was clearly laughably amateurish was the gold standard. I immediately shopped elsewhere and it never crossed my mind to ever use it.

If Bitfinex is still on top in five years and nothing has fundamentally changed there then whoever gets rogered by them next time fully deserves it. And I'll probably go around their house and slap them too.

13262  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: On exchanges is it cheaper? on: August 15, 2016, 10:43:34 PM
Don't forget slippage. If you're using an obscure exchange, and there are plenty with very little on the order books, your one sell might slaughter the price for a while. If you ration your sells over a period of time you're more likely to get an untainted market price for them.
13263  Other / Politics & Society / Re: George Soros Hacked on: August 15, 2016, 10:40:33 PM
So he wants to increase voting, give votes to ex prisoners and oppose Republican madness. That all sounds fine to me. I'm sure there are hundreds of Republican blowhards doing the exact same string pulling behind the scenes.
13264  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2016-08-15] American Banker: Here's What the Bitcoin Naysayers Get Wrong on: August 15, 2016, 10:34:07 PM
That's a nicely executed wee article.

When was the last time there was a genuinely moronic and uninformed Bitcoin article in a proper publication? They really don't seem to pop up all that often any more whereas once upon a time we were swamped with them.
13265  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Position between traders and markets on: August 15, 2016, 10:28:26 PM

and this is why we keep seeing price swings in bitcoin and much bigger price swings in altcoins, because there are so many novice traders in cryptocurrency trading that a simple and smallest manipulation can cause a lot of havoc and then the panic selling starts.

Yes. I think it's far too small to attract the absolute trading titans, but if they took a closer look their mouths would start to water.

Unregulated, 24/7, and filled with minnows who've probably never traded anything else in their entire lives who are also seemingly willing to be scammed and have a penchant for emotional attachment to their shitcoin.

That's nirvana for someone with the right mindset.
13266  Economy / Speculation / Re: Kim Dotcom Predict 2000$ per Bitcoin ??!! on: August 15, 2016, 10:25:25 PM
Well currently bitcoin community maybe around 500k members.

Hmm. I think it's got to be more than that. Still not epic numbers by any means, but it's got to be in the 1-5 million ball park these days. I don't think Coinbase for instance could get the funding they've managed with such a tiny amount of users. Investors take long shots but nothing that long.
13267  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What about the idea of a bitcoin shop in big cities? on: August 15, 2016, 10:22:14 PM
Better to host such a thing in an already existing tech environment. You could have a counter somewhere with a little man handling it. That's how most foreign currency operations work. They're rarely standalone places.
13268  Economy / Speculation / Re: Kim Dotcom Predict 2000$ per Bitcoin ??!! on: August 15, 2016, 10:18:10 PM

I'll bet he wishes he'd gotten into Bitcoin at an earlier stage. In fact I wonder if he did. It's not as if you'd broadcast such a fact anyway.

I also wonder when we'll see a high profile case where Bitcoins are uncovered and they attempt to force someone to hand them over. I don't mean cases where it's known people hold coins such as anything Silk Road related. I'm not sure the old boating accident explanation will satisfy them.
13269  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Venezuela collapses into a black hole???? on: August 15, 2016, 10:14:51 PM
If Venezuela was really as bad as you say, the people would have emigrated a long time ago like the Syrians are doing. It may be a poor country but even poor African countries are not as hungry as that.

Sniff around just a little and you can find the same facts even in the mainstream media, albeit with a little more watering down. It's clear that this is an utterly failed state. Similar to Zimbabwe, it just goes to show that the wrong policies can fuck up countries abundant in natural resources.
13270  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 15, 2016, 09:39:43 PM

This is pretty shitty and I'm usually bullish but getting a bit pissed off. I will as usual keep hodling but halving done and not much coming up isn't looking that great. I wouldn't write off seeing the 400s again between now and Christmas.

Someone tell otherwise.


We should know if there's further ETF progress very soon. Even if it's a firm Fuck Off that still puts uncertainty to bed. And you never know, there might be some scalability on the horizon relatively soon. I don't think either are going to cause an immediate bounce but they're both big votes for future confidence.
13271  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitfinex Offers $3.5 Million Bounty for Stolen Bitcoin on: August 15, 2016, 01:57:38 AM
if i can have all the stolen money, why should i have only 5%?...

I agree that 5% is measly but the hacker may have a hard time disposing of 100,000 or more coins. Who knows,  perhaps they have buyers lined up,  if not then it may take a long time to offload them all. A quick one time payment from Bitfinex might be tempting.
13272  Economy / Speculation / Re: Kim Dotcom Predict 2000$ per Bitcoin ??!! on: August 15, 2016, 01:07:07 AM
Megaupload is the biggest file upload and download network and infringe a lot of contents, it might do a little changes on the price but i will not reach 2k usd for the megaupload 2.0 alone.

I have no idea what he has in store or what could happen, but considering how piddly Bitcoin still is it could easily be pushed up that high by one app.

 Let's assume Bitcoin has 5 million active users,  which I think may be overoptimistic,  mega upload must've had tens of millions back in the day.  If his plans somehow incentivise users there may be unprecedented volume and demand.
13273  Other / Politics & Society / Re: George Soros Hacked on: August 15, 2016, 12:58:41 AM
Has a gist emerged from what's been uncovered so far? I hate pdfs at the best of times and I assume there's a mountain of stuff to wade through anyway. I'll look forward to the TLDR.
13274  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who is Easier to Convince? Employer to Pay in BTC or Local Store to Accept BTC on: August 14, 2016, 10:45:30 PM
Why would an employer give a shit? All they have to do is send a bit of your wage to some third party who'll probably eventually go bust anyway. I don't think local stores are the right place for BTC. Online makes far more sense.
13275  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2016-08-12]Bitcoin Withdrawals Peak as Bitfinex Goes Live Again on: August 14, 2016, 10:39:05 PM
Yes, but I think Bitfinex has lost its dominant market position.

It certainly deserves to, but Bitfinex had a unique appeal to traders. They can't live without leverage. I suppose Kraken is the next best option for many but that UI is so horrific I couldn't bring myself to use it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/4xk70s/i_miss_bitfinex_already/

This thread is an interesting insight into how people are thinking. I think if BFX stays alive for long enough quite a few people are going to sneak back.
13276  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Position between traders and markets on: August 14, 2016, 10:29:48 PM
Indeed. I think psychology is all. The real masters have total control over it and that's why they're the winners. You can have all the knowledge and training in the world, but if you start squealing and running around in circles every time it moves against you then you'll always be nowhere.
13277  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2016-08-12]Bitcoin Withdrawals Peak as Bitfinex Goes Live Again on: August 14, 2016, 10:17:57 PM
People lost complete faith in that exchange. And regarding people withdrawing their coins... That's exactly what should be happening. People with a functioning brain take their loss and directly cash out their entire balance, and choose a different exchange as their main platform.

I dunno. The Bitcoiner capacity for self delusion never ceases to amaze. The fact that there are lenders back on there is rather mind boggling, especially when you consider they haven't said anything about ring fencing post hack deposits. But they've pretty much said nothing at all about anything.
13278  Economy / Exchanges / Re: What is The Best site to buy BitCoin? on: August 14, 2016, 10:08:17 PM
You'll get far more informative answers if you tell us what country you're in. Certain countries spoil you for choice, others are utterly dire.
13279  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you have bitcoin AND debt? on: August 14, 2016, 08:08:14 PM

I do not understand why the former students do not repay the students loan before they take any further loans.

It's a totally different type of debt compared to conventional consumer debt. It's not struck off if you're bankrupted but there's also far less or no urgency if you're under the repayment threshold.

It's also an ever increasingly huge amount of money so I'd be buying things on credit just to get my mind off it.
13280  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Brain wallet password based on fingerprint? on: August 14, 2016, 08:04:57 PM
Golly, you people are so much more security savvy than I am. I'd be dead impressed with myself if I was using fingerprints for stuff. I suppose fingers can be cut off and retinas gouged out. I'll be waiting for a scanner that reads my eternal soul. Until then passwords do the job.
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