2800.

2800 or so.

For the short period of time China traded without their usual zero fee bullshit, their volume was less than the West. There's nothing there other than gamblers and miners. The UK has more full nodes and that has a pathetic Bitcoin scene compared to the US.

China has no developers, no merchants, no usage. It's been gone throughout the explosive phases of this rally. If Chinese miners are exterminated, Bitcoin suddenly looks an awful lot healthier without those 10-15 people controlling all of the mining.

As for the ETF, there are tax advantages and there's nothing to learn. You just buy it and hold it through the conventional channels that millions of people invest with. That's a biggie.

If I end up with 95% net worth in BTC then it'll have risen rather stunningly. I certainly won't be squirming and I doubt I'd divest either. There's really nothing else that interests me very much.

You'd better sew dead fish into the curtains to make sure no one buys it until then. It's going to get very stinky.

Every time I casually browse houses dreaming of ludicrous gains, Bitcoin crashes a few minutes later so I've given up. I'm happy with my shed by the motorway.

That's pure gambling and on top of that you're basing it on the worthless opinion of others who know nothing.

Have a flutter by all means but I hope you're not betting the farm on it.

Doubtful. As the man above said the origin is mixers.

It's obvious what the agenda is but perhaps they should go about it in a less adolescent way. This puts pointless pressure on the blockchain and just irritates everyone. I really can't see it inspiring anyone to change the position they already have.

US yes. China no. China has already wiped itself out market wise. If the mining goes then that's a positive development for Bitcoin''s future.

I saw a block explorer link yesterday of one address sending 1275 transactions to itself. Just maybe that is not an organic transaction. A crazy thought I know.

You're not thinking future. Maybe in 3 to 5 years bitcoin will be a 100 to 200 billion dollar deal. That leaves plenty of room for alts to spurt as well. It'll be a much bigger scene in general.

What a non happening this has proven to be. They really should've added a donate button instead. I would've been happy to.

The main Mycelium man seems to be lording over a massive damp squib in the Mass Network as we speak.

Now available for less than one BTC if you don't mind some light restoration either. That's the parity I was waiting for.

Right on.

Fair enough. A price beyond its 'realisable potential' sounds pretty darned high to me. I supposed I'll let it go and invest my fortune in teaching worms English.

What does this mean?

That is 'this time it's different' paraphrased. And we all should know what happens when that's wheeled out.

At this very moment the only thing that's different in Bitcoinland compared to its utter doldrums is excitement. There aren't any more fundamentals right now. If ETF stuff happens then that's a different matter.

China's demise is probably the biggest obstacle that's been removed but anyone who thinks utter triumph is in the bag is too caught up in the moment.

No one knows anything. Anyone who does claim to know something needs slapping upside the head or is trying to sell you something.

The seeds are there for further insane rises and also a brutal fall. You could look into spreading your buys over a period of time and hope it evens out.

Only you can decide. The trend for months has been steadily up. That's not something to mess with.

Melt it down and recast it into a penile torture instrument to be worn forever more as punishment for doubting.

Not yet. It's a very strong rally. A bubble is when you wake up every morning for a few days in a row and say 'what the fuck?' when you check the price.

Perhaps there never will be another bubble like 2013. It would require a vast amount of money. Or perhaps that'll be like a drop in the ocean if enough people get excited enough.

Yes.

Everyone wants their big cake and also the freedom to gorge on it.

I only wish the whole BTC thing had switched to Mbtc or whatever ages ago to stop newcomers feeling deprived. Psychological barriers matter even when they're totally daffy.