Why don't you think there is a not good chance that will happen? All BTT messages are archived on some hard drive. The BTT owner can already do that, so can everyone with access to that machine, not just now but someday in future one or two year from now.   How are you putting the entire fate of nem in the hands of people you don't know? Why the heck anyone should buy nem when it's fate  is totally insecure with future influx of "billion" nem from unknown people?

I don't care how long you want that wait to continue. Nem should not launch until this issue is settled.

Did those stake holders give you money or are they getting those stakes for free? Maybe they did "check in" the first 2-3 times this coin was delayed?

I am here and getting my coins so it is of no pain to me what happens, but it sure seems wrong to not at least refund their initial investment if there was one.

Can we have your contact information to forward to the first person that comes here and finds his stake was given away? We need someone to at least answer to those people if it happens. I assume that would be you?

I know this is hindsight 20/20 but one thing I would have done differently is that when the team sent out all those PMs with everyone's NEM tokens, to have also pasted in a statement saying something like "you have x days to register your token or you risk losing it" and a link to directions.

Sounds reasonable and fair to me too -- and it puts off concentration so less risk of dump fears and market disruption. I'd still put off a decision on this until after the launch just to avoid any risk of doing anything that unintentionally taints the launch.

Dear community,

I would like to point out the following situation:

Some members who have applied to join the New Economic Movement have lost access to their BTT account.

In a few cases, these same people have made contact with the development team with a second (new) account in order to claim their token.

I have come up with a simple system in which these tokens can be reclaimed by the rightful owner without risking the original owner getting scammed.


System:  


The developers assign two types of priorities to the following accounts:


Priority 1 (highest priority): The original (lost) BTT account.

Priority 2 (lowest priority): The new BTT account.



Then, whenever someone claims to have lost access to an account, the developers would have to carefully inspect the case and hand over a so called "temporary token".

If the original owner claims the token from the original account at a later point in time, the developers would have to remove the "temporary token" from the list and blacklist the person who had claimed a "temporary token".

If the original owner is in fact the same person as the one who claimed the "temporary token", the stake has found it's way back to it's owner.

With this simple system, you can help those who are in a bad situation while preventing any scam.



Feedback is welcome!

We should consider that not everyone lives on bitcointalk.org and we should give all of those who paid for their stakes as much time as practical to claim what they paid for.

How long do those who haven't yet claimed their stakes have to register, and is anything else besides the bitcointalk PM messaging being tried to reach them?

I put it through word count and there's only 818 stakeholders who registered, plus the other 700-something who had claimed tokens.

So we are looking at only 1600 stake-tokens so far but there's still 2/3rd of a month left.  Might end up with 600-800 unclaimed stakes.  NODE had 200-something who couldn't complete the steps to claim their accounts and they had a distribution around 1000.


Unlike NODE, a PM was sent for NEM which notifies them both on BTT and on the registered email they had used to register for BTT.

Can I ask if I in db.
I see the green message but when I delete cookies it is disappear  and then server was  down and I don't know if this delete db and I have to register token again.

Is there a site or google Excel where i can see whether i registered my Token successfully or not?

Makoto's idea on the NEM forum is the best I have heard so far.  The idea could had came from anybody but it does address these capitalization concerns.  It does come with the fault that we have to place more trust into some central entity but we original stakeholders have been dealing with that since January and the newer asset exchange stakeholders since June.   

You have to view this with a "bang for the buck" approach.  Air drop and promotion give aways haven't seen much success in Bitcoin or digital currencies yet.  A more successful utilization of these funds is likely to invest into NEM related companies or services and/or to attract venture capital investments.





If we had telepathy and could identify holders (or slow spenders) then I would give NEMstakes to those people.  Currently, however, NEM has a price tag of $1000 and many people would just lie and cheat to get that payday..   we've seen people do it for lesser amounts in other coins..

not,
I'm sure I typed right. and since the first time was banned

Number seems a tad low to me but it's only been like two days since everybody received their message?  I was under the assumption that most of the 1200+ veterans were somewhat active regulars on BTT.  Seems like they are either ignoring the private message, haven't taken the time to complete the steps or haven't logged in yet.


I'm familiar with this other coin (Patmast3r knows this one too) where like 200-something out of 900-something stakeholders didn't complete the steps to receive their coins.  Theoretically, there could be as much as a thousand stakeholders in NEM who may end up missing the distribution - even if you hound them (like sending them PMs) many will still end up missing it for a variety of reasons (intentional or accidental).
 

The aim should be to get as many NEM to as many people as possible but I don't see any merit in the Facebook approach.  The last coin that did it - it was abused by blackhats with hundreds of fake accounts and then people were manipulating Indian Facebookers into giving up a $10 promotion for $5.  This coin only has a capitalization of $3 million (which is less than NEM if it were to launch tomorrow, $1000 x 4000 = $4 million capitalization).


The idea I read on the NEM forum to give out 20,000 NEM for things like posting a good picture is a novel idea.  When I was younger and more creative I would have taken advantage of that, $20 to take one nice good photo or some kind of promotion is like a payday.

How many stakeholders have registered so far?   

I did not get a PM with a token so far, have they all been send out?