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1341  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Barcelona team line up on: September 16, 2023, 12:51:49 PM
Take this discussion to La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 it's an already existing thread for all Spanish league football discussion
1342  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Why dem dey invest and Dem no dey get money on: September 16, 2023, 11:16:40 AM
My piple wetin una think for this matter wey I just yan so
I can not agree more than this. A good suggestion is to use 1% of monthly income to gamble. If you are earning ₦100000 monthly, use just ₦1000 to gamble. Some people may not agree with me, but if you want to enjoy gambling, us the amount of money that you can afford to lose to gamble.
This one you talk na just the only way to use the enjoy gambling be that. And for people wey see gambling as fun this idea go sink well inside them for them to use am according to how them dey earn as salary.

Nah those wey take gambling as source to use make money go see this idea as something wey hard to do, the excuse go be say 1% too small nah. And that kind talk na dey make dem spend on beyond what they can afford to lose.
1343  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BITCOIN: Give people time! on: September 16, 2023, 10:12:20 AM
I tried to talk to my dad about bitcoin, but he didn't really listen. instead, he called me dumb for sending money online to someone. he thought i was telling him to invest because i saw it on youTube.
so, he didn't listen to me and didn't invested in Bitcoin.

from this, I have learned that do not try to tell people to invest in things because if they lose money, they might blame you. so, it's better not to give investment advice.
You made the same mistake I made a few years ago when trying to give my friends a Bitcoin investment recommendation. Not the best idea, as it turns out. They then called me a fraudster and after that they practically didn’t talk to me. This is what such good intentions lead to. Indeed, let people decide for themselves what they need for life. There is no need to impose yourself on them, as this is fraught with dire consequences.
For me to this day, that incident became an excellent lesson from which I learned a lot of useful experience.
We all have had our fair share of dissenting responses from those we felt we want to do a service by sharing the idea of bitcoin investment to. And it's highly sadden particularly for those that didn't just reject the idea alone but added curse words and insults to our person for something they could have calmly said "NO  I am not interested, thank you".

One thing I have learnt from those scenario's that have helped me not to feel bad by such aggressive responses of people is that, they didn't reject me they only rejected the idea, so no hard feelings. So it doesn't stop me from telling the next guy about bitcoin as I don't know who will be needing it to accept it. You don't need to impose, only tell about it and let them be. The choice is theirs to make anytime.

One mistake that all 3 of you are making is imposing your thoughts on others.
@minecache if you had read to finish in the descending  discussions you would have noticed this part of my comment quoted below so not to have conclude that all 3 are making a mistake of imposition.

However, I concur with the following notions.
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You don't need to impose, only tell about it and let them be. The choice is theirs to make anytime.
1344  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ouch, today someone made a transaction with over $500k fee. on: September 16, 2023, 08:04:07 AM
I wonder if this kind of actions would bring or open something like a "precedent" for other situations
It wouldn't, it is clear to everyone who understands how BTC works that tx fees attached to a tx is for the miners, and in the case of an overpayment the miner has the right to keep their reward in fees or return it if they want to, whatever they decide to do is up to them and is 'right'.
Did you just say it's their right! Such right, Is it ideal? What's the ethical or moral philosophy behind that right in keeping what doesn't count as yours.

We understand that clarity about tx fees for miners but when you receive what's above your pay cheque especially to that range of amount of tx fees it will be reputable to return it to the owner as it could be an act of error, and no one is above error.

One good turn deserves another. If that of 2016 mistake was returned then this should also be returned too.
1345  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BITCOIN: Give people time! on: September 16, 2023, 06:03:39 AM
I tried to talk to my dad about bitcoin, but he didn't really listen. instead, he called me dumb for sending money online to someone. he thought i was telling him to invest because i saw it on youTube.
so, he didn't listen to me and didn't invested in Bitcoin.

from this, I have learned that do not try to tell people to invest in things because if they lose money, they might blame you. so, it's better not to give investment advice.
You made the same mistake I made a few years ago when trying to give my friends a Bitcoin investment recommendation. Not the best idea, as it turns out. They then called me a fraudster and after that they practically didn’t talk to me. This is what such good intentions lead to. Indeed, let people decide for themselves what they need for life. There is no need to impose yourself on them, as this is fraught with dire consequences.
For me to this day, that incident became an excellent lesson from which I learned a lot of useful experience.
We all have had our fair share of dissenting responses from those we felt we want to do a service by sharing the idea of bitcoin investment to. And it's highly sadden particularly for those that didn't just reject the idea alone but added curse words and insults to our person for something they could have calmly said "NO  I am not interested, thank you".

One thing I have learnt from those scenario's that have helped me not to feel bad by such aggressive responses of people is that, they didn't reject me they only rejected the idea, so no hard feelings. So it doesn't stop me from telling the next guy about bitcoin as I don't know who will be needing it to accept it. You don't need to impose, only tell about it and let them be. The choice is theirs to amke anytime.
1346  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Big capital, small risk or small capital big risk - which is best approach? on: September 15, 2023, 05:34:52 PM
Using big capital for small odds reduces the risk of losing and if you're not a greedy gambler you can win more often than not.

But the sadly just one losing can cost you two third of the amount of your previous winnings. While small capital is cool but you have to accumulate odds to get a big potential winning amount and your chances of winning are slim and not everyone will have that patient for a rare big win. Gamblers should use the strategy that works for them not minding whether big or small wins
1347  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Learning from those who have experience on: September 15, 2023, 01:48:20 PM
I agree, distracting yourself with another kind of game that is also related to gambling will still not help you to conquer gambling addiction. It will only make you more addicted and will push yourself to gamble more since it will only trigger your emotion to gamble again. Better to stop gambling at all, if you want to move forward, resting for good is the key and not anything to distract your mind if you are addicted.
If you are an addicted gambler and you want to stop, changing to another kind of game is just like wasting of time to me because that won’t stop the addiction. One of the things that I do recommend to people that are addicted to gambling whenever they want to stop gambling is for them to always spend less time on their mobile phones. They should just get another thing that will make them happy and focus on that. If the person has friends that are not gamblers, it’s better to spend time with them. I am sure that by doing that, he will start thinking less about gambling, which I am sure is really going to help.
That's a commendable suggestion my friend @stable090, keep your mobile phone constantly next to you can easily lure you back into gambling with just one click. I'll also add by say if it's possible the addict can change to a new mobile phone that's not connected to the internet, just for calls and text messages. Taking a leave from the internet for some period of time will be more effective and help adjust their gambling habit and eliminating all tendencies of addiction while they spend time with friends and family and other activities that keeps them heavily occupied.
1348  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚡⚡Knight.bet no.1 Online Casino!⚡⚡ on: September 15, 2023, 11:23:38 AM
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We not doubting if your odds are fair or not. As you can read other comments before mine, members are concerned about the unprofessionalism of the supposed ANN thread of your casino.

You should be more into details in a comprehensive and orderly spread the information about your casino even with added pictures for attraction too. I can see @Little_Mouse has offered to provide you with his professional assistance on how to go about it with your project in the forum and I think you should invite his assistance as it will be much helpful.

Welcome to the forum bitcointalk.
1349  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Crypto Casino... Fun or Not? on: September 15, 2023, 11:10:03 AM
I was supposed to visit your casino for the purpose of checking out what you offer since there’s no image available on your thread to have a glimpse on what you are talking about a Netflix style but the casino doesn’t allowed my country to even just browse the casino for checking purposes.
Same experience from my country side Nigeria and it will be good for business if they spread the tentacles of their license to many more countries.

The forum as a community houses people from many different nationalities and if your license of accessibility is limited to only 15% out of a 100% nationals in the forum that are gamblers then it's obvious you guys won't be getting a liable market here. I doubt people would go all the way around using VPN just access an online casino they know not much about when they already have a plethora of reputable casinos in operation in the forum with ease access.

Think about that!
1350  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ignore the new Apple toys & Invest in Bitcoin, history always repeat itself. on: September 15, 2023, 10:33:53 AM
Buying an iphone just for texting, taking photos  and calls and not for business purpose is purely a wasteful spending. It's dumb to spend money on a phone that has an expiring value of at most 12months and a new set coming into the market with a difference of one or two added features. Even if I don't want to buy bitcoin I can buy a plot of land with an iPhone 14pro amount and in the next 12 months that land value will surely appreciate.

People that are crazy for iphones are no different from gambling addicts that spends money they could use to invest on promising businesses that will be profitable in the future.
If I am using a phone and the reception is poor it is annoying but I spent say 300 on a samsung a53 and the moron next to me spent 1000 plus on his new iPhone.  we both don't have service but I have 700 worth of btc sitting in a wallet.
Lol. Quite indeed a moron. The dazzling thing about iPhones is that it's those that don't have enough money to fend for themselves are the people in the competition of changing iPhones soon afterwards a new model is released.

They even go through the trouble of making savings in anticipation for new release.

Maybe next time you shouldn't mention how much of a BTC you own in your wallet not to attract attention. Just my two cents

If i had 700 coins of btc yeah I should keep quiet.

living in the states 700 usd is not much money.
Yeah am not unaware it's ain't much, and turning to those using Euro and pounds it's even much lesser.

Am afraid that is much for those of other countries whose local currency is weigh lower in value to the US dollar. You'll be amazed to know that that $700 is 6 figures in hundreds somewhere else.

The whole idea is, what's not much for you could be much for someone else somewhere. Grin

1351  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ignore the new Apple toys & Invest in Bitcoin, history always repeat itself. on: September 14, 2023, 10:56:40 PM
Buying an iphone just for texting, taking photos  and calls and not for business purpose is purely a wasteful spending. It's dumb to spend money on a phone that has an expiring value of at most 12months and a new set coming into the market with a difference of one or two added features. Even if I don't want to buy bitcoin I can buy a plot of land with an iPhone 14pro amount and in the next 12 months that land value will surely appreciate.

People that are crazy for iphones are no different from gambling addicts that spends money they could use to invest on promising businesses that will be profitable in the future.
If I am using a phone and the reception is poor it is annoying but I spent say 300 on a samsung a53 and the moron next to me spent 1000 plus on his new iPhone.  we both don't have service but I have 700 worth of btc sitting in a wallet.
Lol. Quite indeed a moron. The dazzling thing about iPhones is that it's those that don't have enough money to fend for themselves are the people in the competition of changing iPhones soon afterwards a new model is released.

They even go through the trouble of making savings in anticipation for new release.

Maybe next time you shouldn't mention how much of a BTC you own in your wallet not to attract attention. Just my two cents
1352  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ignore the new Apple toys & Invest in Bitcoin, history always repeat itself. on: September 14, 2023, 11:28:59 AM
Buying an iphone just for texting, taking photos  and calls and not for business purpose is purely a wasteful spending. It's dumb to spend money on a phone that has an expiring value of at most 12months and a new set coming into the market with a difference of one or two added features. Even if I don't want to buy bitcoin I can buy a plot of land with an iPhone 14pro amount and in the next 12 months that land value will surely appreciate.

People that are crazy for iphones are no different from gambling addicts that spends money they could use to invest on promising businesses that will be profitable in the future.
1353  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Friendly note: You might want to be careful of the so-called arbitrage trading on: September 14, 2023, 05:45:52 AM
Well, arbitrage trading is complex and requires a trader to be fast and precise at same time with some risks attached as op has mentioned. But so far as there's profit in arbitrage market traders will not keep off from it not withstanding any risk of asset seizure.

The opportunity in price discrepancies in the market  is the waxing strength of arbitration trading and in as much as these discrepancies persist arbitrage trading won't go extinct.  Some people have got bills to pay and need take risk where opportunity lies to be able to cover those bills.
1354  Economy / Economics / Re: If the global economy collapses what's the first thing you do? on: September 14, 2023, 04:49:31 AM
Hitherto to this question the global economic hardship is before now dwelling with us and some of us has gotten use to it and had adapted to the hardship that we often forget it does exist already. It's just that the economic hardship is only getting worsening on a daily basis.

And we as bitcoiners if it get so worse as some economic experts has speculated then I am sure our bitcoin holding would save a lot of us because many holders would be forced to sell to feed and settle some other hefty financial challenges. Investing in agriculture will be the best life saving in those harsh times because what everyone will care for most importantly is foodstuffs. So if you don't have high amount to invest in agriculture you can still have a small farm for subsistence farming to cushion the effect.
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1356  Economy / Economics / Re: Tim Gurner wants Unemployment to increase. Employers have lost their power. on: September 14, 2023, 04:14:30 AM
Tim Gurner, the CEO of the Gurner Group, wants unemployment to increase so that people can be subservient to their employers as it used to be. He believes that since the pandemic gave way to working from home, employees now how too much power and have even go as far as s dictating the terms of employment to their employers.
Employees have human instinct and they are self fish when they can. They do not care about employers and they should know that employers must maximize profit for their business operation so that lazy employees are at bottom of employer's choice. The pandemic actually gives employees great opportunities to work remotely, work from home but refuse to return to offices when pandemic is almost over and life is back to normal is unacceptable.

No doubt that without face to face interactions, working is less effective in most of companies and employees must know that.
Have you taken a second thought to ponder that just maybe the fall short in maximization of profit could be arising from the management at the top due to poor managerial decisions? There's much to consider on both sides, therefore laying off an entire staffs and employing new won't make that much difference when the management haven't taking a sober reflection on their on path in whatever downturn the company might be facing.

There certain worker's in a company that when you lose their kind of unique expertise it take you if not +5 to get someone to fill their space perfectly. Hope he the employer/company can cope with losing such staff's going by his idea of mass sack?

Todd Boehly   the new owner of Chelsea football club  is a simple example, instantly sacking of all old staffs to employ new staffs and since then the resultant effect of that action on the club results hasn't been the same despite billions spent on players.

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He feels that employers have lost their power and that the only way for them to get back their powers over their employees and show to them whose boss is if the unemployment rate increases and people have to literally beg to have their or keep their jobs.
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The world will return to normality soon but it takes time to erase consequences of the pandemic and lockdowns, quarantines months ago.
And you think that the world returning back to normalcy after the effect of the covid-19 global pandemic is by employers laying off their entire workers based on the excuse that the employees are gaining or have gained much power? 
He's only heading for his company's doom as it's only an employee that doesn't know his worth would be begging for job.


1357  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Bitcoin no be for everybody inside Nigeria on: September 13, 2023, 10:42:54 PM
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So di koko be say many things wey concern bitcoin, no be for poor people. Di high transaction fees, di investment and trading. Dat na why I reason say di matter no be for everybody inside Nigeria. Person go de enlightened and get or create oda source of income, to be able to stand gidigba, say im de do bitcoin business. So how una see am?
Am not objecting the truth that bitcoin is not for everyone, although is meant for all  shaa.

The one I wan address nah wer  you talk say bitcoin no be for the poor, bro I disagree . Bitcoin is for both the poor and rich as long as you have gained interest to adopt am. You must not start buying in big amount, you fit the buy small small as your money reach you go just de buy de go, e go dey accumulate for you before you know it, you don get plenty amount of bitcoin for wallet. Oyibo man call am DCA.

And too, nothing like high transaction fee rate anything. The fees banks for Naija dey cut cut from our account u fit use am compare bitcoin transaction fees?  Bitcoin nobody dey cut any fee except you wan do transfer from wallet to another wallet or
different  exchange, but bank weda u do transfer or not dem d cut cut fees from ur account. Make I just gbaa break here for dis matta.
1358  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers? on: September 13, 2023, 01:01:51 PM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…
This is a good question, but you see, money is never enough to get. You got to explore every available lucrative means to amass it and it's put in one word- diversification.

Although not all these crypto affiliates or influencers knows what they are doing, they are in themselves not good at trading, they are just selling shit all for the money  and that's why you need to be prudent which influencer or affiliate trader we follow cause most of those trading videos online are cut-and-join videos.

But there are a few successful professional crypto traders that are making profits with trading, and in their humanity they feel a need to share their knowledge and strategies with interested persons and their motive is to share their knowledge about crypto trading and not basically the need to make money through those YouTube videos .
1359  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: KYC matter? on: September 13, 2023, 12:24:05 PM
What are the repercussions of failing to complete KYC on an exchange?

I don't think there should be any problem if you fail it one time. You will be asked to re-submit the documents. If you have deposited in that exchange, be sure to withdraw before re-submitting. Because they don't restrict your withdrawal right away after 1-time fail. You should try again after withdrawing.
I just don't get it. Why would anyone forge on to deposit money into a kyc required exchange or a casino with him summiting his documents and made sure to have the account completely verified before putting money. Like why the f*ck the haste to deposit? That's beyond carelessness it stupid cause you're just gambling your money.

Some of these exchanges particularly online KYC casinos they are dubious and diffident in their operations that by any slight mistake you make in deviance to company's policy they jump on the opportunity to seize your asset. 

So to be on safe side  it's either you patiently wait to complete KYC, or you make use of a no KYC exchanges or casinos. People shouldn't shovel yourself into a shit that's ain't worth it.


1360  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How late is too late to place a bet for a gambler? on: September 13, 2023, 11:34:53 AM
~snip~
The lack of available funds (after gathering your analysis at the very time the gambler gathered his predictions) to use for the bet  can cause a gambler to  make late bets.
Oh yes! Getting to wait for the die minutes before the start of a match you will be at an advantage to change your predictions in case of any latest news about changes of a key-player not fixturing in the match to the team you're betting on and this is an advantage a late bettor may commonly have against an early bettor. But one thing I have noticed in placing late bets, you are left in a hurry predictions mood due to the little time left and that can jeopardize your chances of winning.
Usually, the gambler who wants to place a bet has already sent the money to his gambling account while he is still preparing his analysis or collecting more valid news. Although this might happen, gamblers can handle it well so that they won't be late placing bets too often.
Not exactly! It's not usually the case that gamblers will already had sent money to their account before going on with his bet analysis. I have seen a few gamblers that don't have the funds in the meantime but were just hopeful they will have funds to use for their bet before the match time. And so they move on with their analysis in that hope, and for some the money do come but late. Hence, they make their bet analysis without money in account and also have to place the bet late.

Now let's walk away from online gamblers. what about those gambler's that utilizes bet shops having no online gambling account, do they have to send money to the betshop account before going on with his bet analysis. Nope!  That's why it's not always the case.
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