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September 13, 2023, 11:33:04 AM
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2. The amount of energy and time you expend preaching to someone about bitcoin is not a warranty that he will accept what you're offering. Maybe not immediately!
I tried to talk to my dad about bitcoin, but he didn't really listen. instead, he called me dumb for sending money online to someone. he thought i was telling him to invest because i saw it on youTube.
so, he didn't listen to me and didn't invested in Bitcoin.

from this, I have learned that do not try to tell people to invest in things because if they lose money, they might blame you. so, it's better not to give investment advice.
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September 13, 2023, 01:23:43 PM
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We don't need to rush all things. People are just being too much optimistic with the bitcoin and getting hyped, so our regrets about making an investment we are passing through to the people we know can invest and give their courage like we miss out, give them a chance to understand it first not as always we are earning money, and we know older people are afraid to risk their money because it's hard-earned and they want to make sure all of that investment decision they made will result in a good outcome. Well at the end its a good news one of your family member now understand the use of the bitcoin but again its your guidance you are the one who really more knowledgeable with that we know how elder always ask if they manage to take a profit or not.

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September 13, 2023, 02:22:37 PM
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We don't need to rush all things. People are just being too much optimistic with the bitcoin and getting hyped, so our regrets about making an investment we are passing through to the people we know can invest and give their courage like we miss out, give them a chance to understand it first not as always we are earning money, and we know older people are afraid to risk their money because it's hard-earned and they want to make sure all of that investment decision they made will result in a good outcome. Well at the end its a good news one of your family member now understand the use of the bitcoin but again its your guidance you are the one who really more knowledgeable with that we know how elder always ask if they manage to take a profit or not.


People are just excited because the idea they have about bitcoin and knowing that you have bitcoin, you will be respected, and that is why even those who do not have bitcoin will say they have bitcoin, and I am sure that if an examination is done for those who said they have bitcoin, the outcome of the result will surprise you. And the hype is even worth it and everyone wants he or her friend to be part of bitcoin so that they don't miss out but if anyone is doing an introduction they should also know the risk before going fully into it. I don't blame other people because money is scarce these days all they need is adequate advice and permission to conduct study in order to know what measures to take. take.

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September 13, 2023, 04:25:55 PM
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So, four days ago this very uncle of mine called me saying that he's now interested in investing some money into bitcoin. And I was like what happened! I thought you rejected the idea when I introduced it to you months ago.

Guess what he said, "well I did thought about it recently, and did a few research and decided I should give it a trial like you advised I should".

Now this how the whole gist originally emanated. I had this long section talk with him about bitcoin more than 8months back of which he rejected the idea of investing with whatever amount he could use as a clinical trial of the digital currency for like 6months or 1year to see for himself the benefits of bitcoin but he refused and afterwards I never brought up the discussion again to him. But to my greatest surprise he called me on phone to come to his house, on getting there he shared to me about his interest to invest in bitcoin with the sum of #4.8million of our local currency, an amount that is worth around $6k based on current exchange rate.

Although it's not the story that intrigue me to share this info  to the community but it's mainly the lessons I learnt from it that did, which I'll believe a lot of bitcoiners needs to know even as they talk to people about bitcoin. Which are:-

1. Give people time; they will show interest when the time is right for them. Their timing may not be same with yours, if you've done your own job of talking to them about it, then that's fine.

2. The amount of energy and time you expend preaching to someone about bitcoin is not a warranty that he will accept what you're offering. Maybe not immediately!

3. We should always tell people to go do their own research about bitcoin after giving them some preaching about it. Doing their own research from with what they  get online can strengthen their conviction about what they've have been told.


What do you think about this?

I believe there are still some people who, if you tell them something that will increase their money or make them rich, there is no way to go back or make any other research about it; they can immediately do it at that point of time. They have been waiting for this kind of opportunity for so long now that they have it with someone introducing them to it that is an excellent opportunity. I believe most of people even if it takes them longer than a year, they will eventually forget what you introduced them to. They may even notice changes in your life, but their minds will still remain closed to what you said, which is how most people miss out on opportunities in life, regardless. of how long it takes.

Simply said, no one should be forced to invest their money if they don't want to when the time comes.

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September 14, 2023, 08:45:04 AM
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We don't have to force any individuals we're introducing to Bitcoin against their will to invest in Bitcoin, telling them about bitcoin is good enough and the rest is left for the persons to determine if they will be investing in bitcoin or not.
While it's true that by informing, we play the role of unlocking the door to the cryptocurrency realm, I believe there's a crucial caveat. We all understand the necessity of ongoing oversight to ensure newcomers don't stumble into treacherous terrain. Lately, there have been numerous scams disguising themselves as Bitcoin, posing a significant threat to the mental well-being of those just venturing into the world of cryptocurrencies.

Moreover, in order for individuals to maintain an objective perspective on Bitcoin, it's imperative that we don't solely sing its praises. We must also acquaint them with some of Bitcoin's shortcomings, including the associated risks. This way, they'll exercise greater caution from the outset when expressing their interest in Bitcoin.
This is why I prefer to tell the people what happens to me, and what I did. This means that I talk about myself, and do not pressure them into getting involved with bitcoin and that helps. It means that they do not have to get involved with bitcoin at all and they do not have to make any investments at all, they just listen to what I did and my personal journey.

If anyone ever wants to get in, then I will be there to help them on how to do it if they want to do it, and they will know that I am a person who is involved with cryptocurrencies, but that doesn't mean that it would make it any different, it would definitely change some things over course of long term, and should be important deal at the end as well.

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September 14, 2023, 09:09:24 AM
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We don't need to rush all things. People are just being too much optimistic with the bitcoin and getting hyped, so our regrets about making an investment we are passing through to the people we know can invest and give their courage like we miss out, give them a chance to understand it first not as always we are earning money, and we know older people are afraid to risk their money because it's hard-earned and they want to make sure all of that investment decision they made will result in a good outcome. Well at the end its a good news one of your family member now understand the use of the bitcoin but again its your guidance you are the one who really more knowledgeable with that we know how elder always ask if they manage to take a profit or not.
As in the OP's story, at first Op's uncle was not interested but some time later he returned and was interested in bitcoin.
I believe that many people have heard about bitcoin, and there are different types of people who will respond to what they hear with bitcoin. There are people who are immediately interested, there are people who are curious but they ignore their curiosity, there are people who are not interested at all.
We cannot conclude whether they are interested or not, because it could be that when they hear it in front of us they don't seem interested, but when they are at home they find out what bitcoin is.
And from here it does take time for them to think about what they will do, and if they have a high interest I'm sure they will start asking questions.

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September 14, 2023, 09:38:01 AM
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I tried to talk to my dad about bitcoin, but he didn't really listen. instead, he called me dumb for sending money online to someone. he thought i was telling him to invest because i saw it on youTube.
so, he didn't listen to me and didn't invested in Bitcoin.

from this, I have learned that do not try to tell people to invest in things because if they lose money, they might blame you. so, it's better not to give investment advice.
You made the same mistake I made a few years ago when trying to give my friends a Bitcoin investment recommendation. Not the best idea, as it turns out. They then called me a fraudster and after that they practically didn’t talk to me. This is what such good intentions lead to. Indeed, let people decide for themselves what they need for life. There is no need to impose yourself on them, as this is fraught with dire consequences.
For me to this day, that incident became an excellent lesson from which I learned a lot of useful experience.

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September 15, 2023, 09:13:25 AM
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I tried to talk to my dad about bitcoin, but he didn't really listen. instead, he called me dumb for sending money online to someone. he thought i was telling him to invest because i saw it on youTube.
so, he didn't listen to me and didn't invested in Bitcoin.

from this, I have learned that do not try to tell people to invest in things because if they lose money, they might blame you. so, it's better not to give investment advice.
You made the same mistake I made a few years ago when trying to give my friends a Bitcoin investment recommendation. Not the best idea, as it turns out. They then called me a fraudster and after that they practically didn’t talk to me. This is what such good intentions lead to. Indeed, let people decide for themselves what they need for life. There is no need to impose yourself on them, as this is fraught with dire consequences.
For me to this day, that incident became an excellent lesson from which I learned a lot of useful experience.
It was easy to tell people about Bitcoin and that it was what we usually heard from others but doing it in actuality and convincing someone to believe us is somewhat really difficult. However, I understand their response to us because this is also what I did before and I rejected the opportunity until such time I realized it. After I failed to convince my friends, I promised myself not to do it again but rather wait for them and ask about Bitcoin. In this way, I give them freedom to decide on their own, not by forcing them to invest and lose their money.
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September 15, 2023, 10:10:14 AM
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We don't need to rush all things. People are just being too much optimistic with the bitcoin and getting hyped, so our regrets about making an investment we are passing through to the people we know can invest and give their courage like we miss out, give them a chance to understand it first not as always we are earning money, and we know older people are afraid to risk their money because it's hard-earned and they want to make sure all of that investment decision they made will result in a good outcome. Well at the end its a good news one of your family member now understand the use of the bitcoin but again its your guidance you are the one who really more knowledgeable with that we know how elder always ask if they manage to take a profit or not.
Learning takes time. There’s always a process for that. If you resort into rushing things, you will never see the real essence of a certain thing. Most especially with bitcoin, where everything seems complicated at first but when you decide to make an effort and research extensively, you will discover that it has its high potentials to succeed in the future, compared to other crypto or non-crypto assets in the market. So when we try to educate people about bitcoin, never expect that they will instantly agree on what we are telling them. Give them time, give them space to do their own research as well. That’s the only way they will completely understand bitcoin on their own.

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September 15, 2023, 10:38:19 AM
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I tried to talk to my dad about bitcoin, but he didn't really listen. instead, he called me dumb for sending money online to someone. he thought i was telling him to invest because i saw it on youTube.
so, he didn't listen to me and didn't invested in Bitcoin.

from this, I have learned that do not try to tell people to invest in things because if they lose money, they might blame you. so, it's better not to give investment advice.
You made the same mistake I made a few years ago when trying to give my friends a Bitcoin investment recommendation. Not the best idea, as it turns out. They then called me a fraudster and after that they practically didn’t talk to me. This is what such good intentions lead to. Indeed, let people decide for themselves what they need for life. There is no need to impose yourself on them, as this is fraught with dire consequences.
For me to this day, that incident became an excellent lesson from which I learned a lot of useful experience.

We should not force or impose our thoughts on others, but sharing opportunities with everyone is not such a bad thing. Both of you made the mistake of sharing opportunities but not being able to provide evidence, so it's understandable that many people don't believe you. I was also in that situation, when I first learned about bitcoin and introduced it to my younger brother. But the irony is that he also doubted and did not believe what I said. But in recent years, my life has become much better than his and he started to listen to me. What I learned here is that when we give financial advice to someone, we need evidence. If we have evidence or have experienced it ourselves and achieved good results, our advice will be much more valuable.

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September 15, 2023, 02:55:38 PM
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2. The amount of energy and time you expend preaching to someone about bitcoin is not a warranty that he will accept what you're offering. Maybe not immediately!
I tried to talk to my dad about bitcoin, but he didn't really listen. instead, he called me dumb for sending money online to someone. he thought i was telling him to invest because i saw it on youTube.
so, he didn't listen to me and didn't invested in Bitcoin.

from this, I have learned that do not try to tell people to invest in things because if they lose money, they might blame you. so, it's better not to give investment advice.
I agree, you really shouldn't. It's a bad idea to push people and insist on where and how they should be spending their hard-earned money. If you do that and things go wrong you will surely get all the blame. Instead, you can just present the idea of Bitcoin casually in a conversation by sharing your experience, you don't have to preach or suggest anything to them, once you share the positives they'll be the ones who will decide if they will be curious about it and ask more (possibly conduct their own research about it). You don't have to take the responsibility of introducing Bitcoin to them and teaching them how the system works, just be there when they reach out to you and ask questions.
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September 15, 2023, 04:00:01 PM
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2. The amount of energy and time you expend preaching to someone about bitcoin is not a warranty that he will accept what you're offering. Maybe not immediately!
I tried to talk to my dad about bitcoin, but he didn't really listen. instead, he called me dumb for sending money online to someone. he thought i was telling him to invest because i saw it on youTube.
so, he didn't listen to me and didn't invested in Bitcoin.

from this, I have learned that do not try to tell people to invest in things because if they lose money, they might blame you. so, it's better not to give investment advice.
At that point, since it's your dad and (hopefully) you can talk with him without any problem, did you ask him why for him what you did was stupid? On what facts was his response based on? Did he actually do a research? Or was just saying things despite having 0 knowledge of the actual facts?

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September 16, 2023, 06:03:39 AM
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I tried to talk to my dad about bitcoin, but he didn't really listen. instead, he called me dumb for sending money online to someone. he thought i was telling him to invest because i saw it on youTube.
so, he didn't listen to me and didn't invested in Bitcoin.

from this, I have learned that do not try to tell people to invest in things because if they lose money, they might blame you. so, it's better not to give investment advice.
You made the same mistake I made a few years ago when trying to give my friends a Bitcoin investment recommendation. Not the best idea, as it turns out. They then called me a fraudster and after that they practically didn’t talk to me. This is what such good intentions lead to. Indeed, let people decide for themselves what they need for life. There is no need to impose yourself on them, as this is fraught with dire consequences.
For me to this day, that incident became an excellent lesson from which I learned a lot of useful experience.
We all have had our fair share of dissenting responses from those we felt we want to do a service by sharing the idea of bitcoin investment to. And it's highly sadden particularly for those that didn't just reject the idea alone but added curse words and insults to our person for something they could have calmly said "NO  I am not interested, thank you".

One thing I have learnt from those scenario's that have helped me not to feel bad by such aggressive responses of people is that, they didn't reject me they only rejected the idea, so no hard feelings. So it doesn't stop me from telling the next guy about bitcoin as I don't know who will be needing it to accept it. You don't need to impose, only tell about it and let them be. The choice is theirs to amke anytime.
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September 16, 2023, 06:50:59 AM
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It was easy to tell people about Bitcoin and that it was what we usually heard from others but doing it in actuality and convincing someone to believe us is somewhat really difficult. However, I understand their response to us because this is also what I did before and I rejected the opportunity until such time I realized it. After I failed to convince my friends, I promised myself not to do it again but rather wait for them and ask about Bitcoin. In this way, I give them freedom to decide on their own, not by forcing them to invest and lose their money.
It is highly likely that it will never come to making a decision on your own. If there was no desire before, then it will not appear.
Did they really not have any information about Bitcoin until now? I don't think so. But for some reason, your friends never decided to buy at least part of Bitcoin. Just forget about it and move on as if nothing happened. You have come to a correct understanding of the situation, and nothing more is required.

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September 16, 2023, 09:29:53 AM
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I tried to talk to my dad about bitcoin, but he didn't really listen. instead, he called me dumb for sending money online to someone. he thought i was telling him to invest because i saw it on youTube.
so, he didn't listen to me and didn't invested in Bitcoin.

from this, I have learned that do not try to tell people to invest in things because if they lose money, they might blame you. so, it's better not to give investment advice.
You made the same mistake I made a few years ago when trying to give my friends a Bitcoin investment recommendation. Not the best idea, as it turns out. They then called me a fraudster and after that they practically didn’t talk to me. This is what such good intentions lead to. Indeed, let people decide for themselves what they need for life. There is no need to impose yourself on them, as this is fraught with dire consequences.
For me to this day, that incident became an excellent lesson from which I learned a lot of useful experience.
We all have had our fair share of dissenting responses from those we felt we want to do a service by sharing the idea of bitcoin investment to. And it's highly sadden particularly for those that didn't just reject the idea alone but added curse words and insults to our person for something they could have calmly said "NO  I am not interested, thank you".

One thing I have learnt from those scenario's that have helped me not to feel bad by such aggressive responses of people is that, they didn't reject me they only rejected the idea, so no hard feelings. So it doesn't stop me from telling the next guy about bitcoin as I don't know who will be needing it to accept it. You don't need to impose, only tell about it and let them be. The choice is theirs to amke anytime.

One mistake that all 3 of you are making is imposing your thoughts on others. You are a person who likes new things and likes to explore, but that doesn't mean everyone has that mindset. Furthermore, you must know that most people will be very hesitant when hearing about new things, so once you decide to introduce bitcoin to them, you need to be mentally prepared that there is a high possibility that they will refuse instead of listening.

If it were me, I wouldn't listen to my son's advice because I'm the one raising him, and his finances completely depend on me, how can he teach me to be rich? That's like a servant teaching his master how to get rich, isn't it unreasonable? Audience and results are two important factors when we want to introduce bitcoin or give them financial advice.

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September 16, 2023, 10:12:20 AM
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I tried to talk to my dad about bitcoin, but he didn't really listen. instead, he called me dumb for sending money online to someone. he thought i was telling him to invest because i saw it on youTube.
so, he didn't listen to me and didn't invested in Bitcoin.

from this, I have learned that do not try to tell people to invest in things because if they lose money, they might blame you. so, it's better not to give investment advice.
You made the same mistake I made a few years ago when trying to give my friends a Bitcoin investment recommendation. Not the best idea, as it turns out. They then called me a fraudster and after that they practically didn’t talk to me. This is what such good intentions lead to. Indeed, let people decide for themselves what they need for life. There is no need to impose yourself on them, as this is fraught with dire consequences.
For me to this day, that incident became an excellent lesson from which I learned a lot of useful experience.
We all have had our fair share of dissenting responses from those we felt we want to do a service by sharing the idea of bitcoin investment to. And it's highly sadden particularly for those that didn't just reject the idea alone but added curse words and insults to our person for something they could have calmly said "NO  I am not interested, thank you".

One thing I have learnt from those scenario's that have helped me not to feel bad by such aggressive responses of people is that, they didn't reject me they only rejected the idea, so no hard feelings. So it doesn't stop me from telling the next guy about bitcoin as I don't know who will be needing it to accept it. You don't need to impose, only tell about it and let them be. The choice is theirs to make anytime.

One mistake that all 3 of you are making is imposing your thoughts on others.
@minecache if you had read to finish in the descending  discussions you would have noticed this part of my comment quoted below so not to have conclude that all 3 are making a mistake of imposition.

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September 17, 2023, 03:52:39 AM
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I tried to talk to my dad about bitcoin, but he didn't really listen. instead, he called me dumb for sending money online to someone. he thought i was telling him to invest because i saw it on youTube.
so, he didn't listen to me and didn't invested in Bitcoin.

from this, I have learned that do not try to tell people to invest in things because if they lose money, they might blame you. so, it's better not to give investment advice.

If you want to introduce someone to Bitcoin or other investments, you must inform them of the risks involved so that he does not complain if he loses. The reason for this is that some people simply tell people to invest and tell them the benefits involved without informing them of the risks, I believe that if you inform them the risks and benefits he will decide whether to invest or not,  if people are hiding opportunity i don't think even you will be successful, Is good to share opportunity to others so that both of you will achieve your goals.

2. The amount of energy and time you expend preaching to someone about bitcoin is not a warranty that he will accept what you're offering. Maybe not immediately!

You know, some people do not believe in online investments because of scammers, they believe that all online investments are bad. That is why it can be difficult for someone to accept what you are offering to him because some of them have been scammed. People who believe in you will accept your offer if you can demonstrate your success in investing in Bitcoin so that they can believe you and join you.

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September 17, 2023, 05:55:02 AM
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One mistake that all 3 of you are making is imposing your thoughts on others. You are a person who likes new things and likes to explore, but that doesn't mean everyone has that mindset. Furthermore, you must know that most people will be very hesitant when hearing about new things, so once you decide to introduce bitcoin to them, you need to be mentally prepared that there is a high possibility that they will refuse instead of listening.

If it were me, I wouldn't listen to my son's advice because I'm the one raising him, and his finances completely depend on me, how can he teach me to be rich? That's like a servant teaching his master how to get rich, isn't it unreasonable? Audience and results are two important factors when we want to introduce bitcoin or give them financial advice.
I have already learned a lesson from this and no longer have any desire to explain anything to anyone or impose my opinion. This will only happen if the person himself asks me about it. I have such a friend. He is poorly versed in such issues and asks me to talk about those points where there are gaps in knowledge. Here, of course, I come to the rescue. It's not difficult for me to devote some time.
I am glad that after all these “lectures” a person moves on to the practical part without any questions. Yes, I myself am interested in this topic, but I don’t have time to study everything in detail. There is too much information to read and absorb. I present everything in a condensed form.

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September 17, 2023, 06:27:11 AM
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I have already learned a lesson from this and no longer have any desire to explain anything to anyone or impose my opinion. This will only happen if the person himself asks me about it. I have such a friend. He is poorly versed in such issues and asks me to talk about those points where there are gaps in knowledge. Here, of course, I come to the rescue. It's not difficult for me to devote some time.
I am glad that after all these “lectures” a person moves on to the practical part without any questions. Yes, I myself am interested in this topic, but I don’t have time to study everything in detail. There is too much information to read and absorb. I present everything in a condensed form.

In my opinion, we should not impose our will on anyone, if someone shows interest in Bitcoin, then we should help him.We must tell people about the benefits of Bitcoin and try to get them to do their own research and information in Bitcoin after our guidance.Also, people should be made aware of the risks involved in Bitcoin, because profits can be made, but there is also the risk of loss.


I think if your friends or relatives are less familiar with Bitcoin or such issues, you should definitely guide them well.Of course, those who are interested in such topics have to find time and it takes time. If you don't have time, you can't go into these topics in detail.Do not impose your opinion on anyone, but never stop trying to explain because our explanation can help someone.So we should help people in every forum as far as we have information we should share with them.
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September 17, 2023, 06:48:22 AM
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I have already learned a lesson from this and no longer have any desire to explain anything to anyone or impose my opinion. This will only happen if the person himself asks me about it. I have such a friend. He is poorly versed in such issues and asks me to talk about those points where there are gaps in knowledge. Here, of course, I come to the rescue. It's not difficult for me to devote some time.
I am glad that after all these “lectures” a person moves on to the practical part without any questions. Yes, I myself am interested in this topic, but I don’t have time to study everything in detail. There is too much information to read and absorb. I present everything in a condensed form.

I do agree that telling someone who has no knowledge or interest in Bitcoin is just wastage of your time and effort. Better spend time explaining Bitcoin to those who recently jumped into Bitcoin or either are interested in Bitcoin. Bitcoin is something that involves money and people are not very easily convinced to risk there money with something that they don't know. If I talk about myself, I am the one who started exploring Bitcoin after getting info online. No one convinced me to invest in Bitcoin. 
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