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13421  Other / Off-topic / Re: world without bitcoins......!!!1 on: July 30, 2016, 10:56:32 AM
Bitcoin is not banned in China. They have forbidden its use as a medium of exchange. In late 2013 the first Chinese companies were starting to accept it for services. That's when they rolled in and said it could only be used to collect 'like stamps'.

They've got track record with this. Q coin, which is online play money and not crypto, was a huge deal in China until the government did the same thing.
13422  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 30, 2016, 10:52:36 AM
It looks like I got about 10 months of decent BTC/USD free trading on Uphold, but now they are changing their fees.. actually increasing their BTC/USD trading fees from 0% to .45%, beginning August 1... in a couple of days.


https://uphold.com/en/blog/posts/uphold/uphold-introduces-new-pricing-structure


All good things must come to an end?


Take advantage of what you can while you can, because it may not be in the future?

well that news, never heard of uphold.


The Uphold CEO has been rather vocal about Bitcoin not having any type of future. Also there's something rather weird going on about their assets being backed by some private alt I've never heard of. For those reasons alone they can kiss my posterior.
13423  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Big Banks are researching the usage of private Block Chains, and not Ethereum's on: July 30, 2016, 10:49:57 AM
Are there financial institutions using a private chain for real fintech work? Anyone in the know?

NEM is the backbone of a private offshoot for a few projects in the far East.

I think all this Ethereum bonkersdom has sealed the deal in any banking minds that they're never going to put their affairs in the hands of a bunch of squabbling autists.

13424  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mt. Gox CEO Mark Karpeles: Did You Guys Even Work Out That Block Size Thing? on: July 30, 2016, 10:47:03 AM
I think hes probably been following bitcoin this whole time , Hes clearly just trying to be a dick by suggesting that nothing has been done development wise which i suppose blocksize hes right. Im sure hes more than aware of segwit but it is just a jab in the side.

If he had any internet access at all in jail, and I've no idea whether he did, I presume he was going to spend it looking at cats and samurai swords. If he does have a few thousand coins stashed he'll have to wait a few years before pulling them out.
13425  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Skills vs Luck *poll* on: July 27, 2016, 06:22:31 PM
I once bought a course on trading options. After the first page my eyes glazed over. I'd never really heard of them before but called one of the brokers listed (this was pre internet) and bought the first one he mentioned. I forgot about it for three months. When I called back it was up three grand. Luck for me.
13426  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Brian Armstrong from Coinbase admit he was wrong? on: July 27, 2016, 06:20:25 PM
Of course he won't admit defeat. He will keep pushing his agenda in a futile attempt to sell a story of future revenue for his shareholders.

I'm sure he'd end up producing more revenue if he was generally supportive of the whole scene and kept himself to himself. It seems like a rather strange approach to me.
13427  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Brian Armstrong from Coinbase admit he was wrong? on: July 27, 2016, 05:27:04 PM
I'm voting for a hell no. I don't quite know what's going on in their minds, but it's not very constructive or helpful for everyone else.

They should leave the meddling to other people and concentrate on providing good service for all. That probably includes delisting ETH until it's clear that it won't completely rape their less informed customers.
13428  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Coinbase now supports Etherium; Is this a threat to Bitcoin dominance on: July 27, 2016, 04:56:04 PM

i said this because litecoin has been around for a long time and despite being similar to bitcoin it has some differences too which sets it apart. and i agree that a runner up can be a complete different thing, but something like ethereum can never be the number 2 or even in the 10 top in long term in my opinion because it lacks certain attributes like decentralization or even a good developer.

There's no doubt it's an 'honest' coin compared to ETH, and it's not a disaster either. Ultimately though it does the exact same thing as Bitcoin, albeit probably better, and I can't see that being enough to maintain that position. Time will tell.
13429  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Coinbase now supports Etherium; Is this a threat to Bitcoin dominance on: July 27, 2016, 04:20:23 PM
Why is it Bitcoin's silver? I'm not dissing it. I wish Bitcoin functioned more like it. But I find it more likely that the long term runner up would be a radically different proposition, not a clone with some nifty tweaks.
13430  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: July 27, 2016, 04:17:48 PM
I assume they're constantly bombarded with requests to add coins and them doing so is a major endorsement.

Obviously, it would be fantastic if they did but it would be far better if they were compelled to do so by action elsewhere. No doubt it'll come.
13431  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: July 27, 2016, 03:59:45 PM
Why would they? There are other coins that you can point to with more consistent volume that are of zero interest to them.

It would have to be dominating volume for months on end for them to consider it.
13432  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 64 more halvings to go for bitcoins on: July 27, 2016, 03:57:48 PM
And with the aid of refugee organ donation and reduced calorie dieting I'll be there to witness every single one. I'll light a candle for those who didn't make it.
13433  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Coinbase now supports Etherium; Is this a threat to Bitcoin dominance on: July 27, 2016, 03:56:43 PM
Eth has assumed ltc place and is currently the silver crypto,

I find the use of the word 'currently' rather telling. Silver will always be silver. Who knows what the next jumble of code will be that gives pumpers a boner?
13434  Economy / Speculation / Re: The whole ETH/ETC situation is teaching us what BTC should have done a long time on: July 27, 2016, 01:21:30 AM
Maybe a split could happen with the blocksize debate going on?

There doesn't need to be a split. All there needs is a renaming. Wallets and exchanges already offer different methods of denomination.
13435  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why block size debate, why is it not higher than 1mb? on: July 27, 2016, 01:17:46 AM

I am quite sure that if Satoshi would know that Bitcoin would perform the way it is doing now, that he surely would pick anything higher than the current 1MB size.

He had to make a choice that would be the best for the situation back then in order to downgrade the block size significantly. It is what it is.


Hey, I'm sure he's around ten trillion times more intelligent than I'll ever be but he did miss out on a few things such as the rise of mining pools. And 1mb is just as arbitrary a figure as 5mb. I would've gone larger but I'm always prone to pile in.
13436  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: July 27, 2016, 12:59:52 AM
It doesn't sound like anyone else is taking that lawsuit very seriously, but perhaps there'll be a better one along soon.

That has implications for all crypto. People have been knocking shit together on here gaily unaware that they could be ravaged by the law.

I love the disconnect people have on here that because 'it's on the internet' they can do what they like.
13437  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why block size debate, why is it not higher than 1mb? on: July 27, 2016, 12:55:12 AM

I remember the whole XT thing, But I was kinda away at the time so never had a true look at it. I am guessing this was made by the non-blockstream members?


Correct. It was proposed by Gavin Andresen and Mike Hearn, both of whom have had a few wobbles since. I like a big block but look what's happening with Ethereum right now. It's madness.

Positions in Bitcoin are that much more entrenched and the people involved are that much more psychotic that a contentious hard fork would make ETH's problems look like a walk in the park. I'm pretty confident it would terminally fuck Bitcoin's position.

I blame Satoshi. He could've nominated 2 or 5 or 10mb when he rolled it back from 32mb and everything would've grown around it. Now it's too late. Even back in the days when it was less than nowhere, 200,000 or so transactions a day does not sound like a lot to me.

13438  Economy / Speculation / Re: The whole ETH/ETC situation is teaching us what BTC should have done a long time on: July 26, 2016, 11:04:30 PM
ETC may not be much cheaper than ETH for much longer, or one of them may not be around for much longer.

I agree with the OP. People don't like endless zeroes and many are too thick to realise it's divisible. It's a piece of piss to address. There just needs to be some mutual agreement as to how to name things. I wonder that's one thing everyone can agree on. Probably not.
13439  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 26, 2016, 08:57:23 PM
So do we think that other coin (s) forking fun is going to have repercussions for all crypto?

Someone else pointed out elsewhere that an SEC bod considering the ETFs is going to have cause to wonder if there's a possibility of the underlying asset suddenly going batshit insane and splintering off in all directions. You can't fork gold.
13440  Economy / Speculation / Re: Analysis on: July 26, 2016, 05:07:14 PM
Indeed but traders have zero to do with miners and traders steer the price. If there's profit to be made they're not going to think 'hang on, I must think of the miners' and back down.

They're going to slaughter the price if the opportunity is there to make some money. And they don't do it, another trader will.
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