Why would traders care about what a miner pays to keep running? That's not their problem. They'll do what they feel like doing and sod everyone else. 

i can't be arsed to read its response but imagine the feeling in its heart plucking a solitary floundering sailor from the waves compared to a 19 hour stretch creating new accounts on here while soiling its beanbag. where is the disconnect happening?

Why not do what makes you happy? Why not go outside and see what a wonderful world there is out there? Why not volunteer on a lifeboat crew? Jesus wants so much more for you.

Hmm. I first heard of mobile phones somewhere in the late 80s. I ended up actually getting one somewhere around 12-15 years later. That's something that's a complete no brainer that requires zero education.

It's a phone.

What is mobile.

So you can walk around and stuff and call at the same time.

Compare that to a totally new form of money when most people truly do not know what money actually is and you can see that they might take a tad longer to (a) actually understand what it is and what it can do for them and (b) warm to the idea, followed by (c) getting some, if ever.

If I was in an evangelical mood, I don't think paper wallets are the way. They remove the most interesting elements from the whole thing which is the live exchange/internet aspect. They're also more than likely to discard or lose it.

Far better to get them to download a wallet to their phone and they can watch a live transaction take place. Even then they'll probably lose their seed.

I think the only conclusion possible is that Satoshi has gone senile and embittered and HE is the DAO exploiter.

This will be confirmed when he attempts to send his nefarious ETC gains to the Bitcoin genesis block. He will then spam his own address with abuse when he doesn't understand why his lovely genesis block fails to accept ETC directly.


Yeah. Unless almost everyone is satisfied and going forward together I think this has killed off any chances of anything contentious ever happening. Bitcoin has far more money, far more grievances, far more mining grunt and far more ideology.

The phone verification thing is for your protection as much as pleasing The Man. Your account could be hacked and your card milked considerably easier without it.

This is without a doubt one of the weirdest and most exciting days in crypto history. Shame it's not Bitcoin supplying the weirdness and excitement.

One of the mistakes people make here is thinking everything hinges around the minuscule shit hole that is the cryptocurrency scene.  Think how few people in the world understand and use it.

Something inspired by Bitcoin could sweep past it if it's benefits were a no brainer and it was offered to people who can make practical use of it. There are millions upon millions of them who will never care about ETH or its siblings or ever hear of them.

Now guess what the Nem approach is?

It's a couple of clicks away for Coinbase to set themselves up as a payment processor for ETH. All the infrastructure's there and as they get more and more dug in to their position they probably will. A gift card site I use has been doing cards for ETH for quite some time.

If I had vast ETH gains I'd love to splurge some of it shopping. But I would've done that with BTC already.

You murdered the thread before it even got started. The only one I can think of would be ASIC manufacturers.

No idea. We've already got GBTC and the KNCminer ETN. It's hard to say whether they've done a great deal for Bitcoin as a market entity. It's positive stuff all the same and slowly adds up to some sexiness.

What state are you in? Perhaps there's some regulation that'll cover you there but you might be hard pressed to get anyone interested.

They probably think their rules are just as irritating as you do but their hands are tied on that one. Have you sent support a message regarding your account details?

The key word is 'custodial' wallet providers, those who control the private keys. That means your Coinbases, Circles and Xapos. The real Bitcoin wallets aren't affected by this proposal.

I assume that's because they know they can't do anything about pure software. Anything that drives people away from the quasi banks is a good thing.

That's the order book. It's borderline meaningless. As soon as someone started buying a gaggle of sellers would appear out of nowhere. 

Make one deposit to a place that charges no fees and send them all from there?

I know that's the case with Xapo. Perhaps Coinbase too. Obviously you wouldn't want to do that if the coins had come from gambling or equally filthy things as they'll shut you down.

Or you could take your chances with a much reduced fee if there's no hurry.

What an extraordinarily complex and exhausting world the OP must inhabit. I wonder whether it extends to his day to day to life.

'Did Snuffly the hamster just sneeze? Snuffly NEVER sneezes. Maybe Snuffle WANTS me to think he sneezed. I'd better cut him open to see if there's a GPS/camera plant in there. Sorry, Snuffly. That's if you are Snuffly. If not, diediedie.'

The first modern gold ETF took nearly five years to be approved and I think it's safe to say more people are familiar with what gold is.

Oh yeah, and this arrived today - https://www.gsx.gi/article/8292/gibraltar-stock-exchange-welcomes-bitcoineti

I'm willing to bet my remaining nodes, somewhere around 11 if I can ever find the password, that nothing will ever happen again. Nothing barely happened when it was active and people were badgering them and they were selling for real BTC.

Who's going to take me up on this exciting bet? Anyway I'm not wasting any more electricity and keyboard wear on this subject. PM me if you win the bet. Deadline's March 3rd 2017. Get counting those potential riches right now.

This is a great point. I never ever fail to be amazed how short memories are and how emotional people are.

If two short months ago you'd have written about people whining about a 1000 satoshi price level people would assume you were off your tits on drugs.