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The tl;dr of the ponzi threads in meta is that the ponzi promoters/owners want less negative trust given to ponzi operators and everyone else wants all the ponzi spam to go away.
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Loan period is over. Requested extention of 7 days is almost over. Cryptomine accounts held as collateral is no longer accessible. It was a ponzi scheme. Site is closed. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.0Collapsed/defunct ponzi's: Code: PBmining.com 1+2+3+4+5+6+7 => 7/7 = Ponzi Lunaminer.com 1+2+3+4+5+6+7 => 7/7 = Ponzi coinsoncloud.eu 1+2+3+4+5+6+7 => 7/7 = Ponzi Cryptomine.io 1+2+3+4+5+6+7 => 7/7 = Ponzihashie.co ("gen1") 1+2+3+4+5+6 => 6/7 = Ponzi bitcoinlabmining.com 1+2+3+4+5+6+7 => 7/7 = Ponzi ltcgear 1+3+4+5+6 => 5/7 = (very) suspicious hashprofit.com 1+2+3+4+5 => 5/7 = (very) suspicious Repayment due in 1 day. This person has made at least 5+ loan requests that use his cloud mining account as collateral in the past ~day. This includes one made to me via PM. I do not believe that he has any intention of repaying his loan.
He is also making a lot of spammy like posts so if his reputation is ruined from defaulting on a loan there is a good chance he will already be banned (Delete) |
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Honestly this is not a good way to repay investors, and I would advise anyone to stay away. You should have at least 1.7 BTC from moreia as payment for the privilege to resell your script, plus the 20% he was giving you (you stated that he was selling a lot, so in theory you should have a lot from commissions). You should also have funds from the "fees" from your "honest" ponzi's you were running before moreia robbed you.
You see, this money I got from our partnership (and many other things) was put into the money I paid back to the investors. I didn't need to do this, I'm not the one who ran away. The fees from the ponzi also went into this 2.5 btc, which were not stolen funds, all was made honestly. The way you described things, you were making a lot more then 2.5 BTC (actually .8 BTC if you count the 1.7 he paid you at first) from your partnership. Maybe your standards are different then mine. Like I said a better way would be to use your persona fiat based assets if you do not have any more bitcoin. (or as mentioned above take out a fiat based loan) Im not letting my personal life getting into this, I'm not taking a loan, this isn't my wrongdoing. He never paid me the full 1.7 btc, we got to around 1.1 before this partnership. If you want to get the communities money back, please help me with this. I could just leave right now, and all that you would have is a couple negative points on a random guy on the internet. I am not going to do this because I have morals and know that this money should be returned. I've already put 2.5 btc of MY OWN MONEY into this. I repeat my previous statements. I could have just sat there and done nothing, and this scam wouldn't be related to me. I told everyone that I was involved because I thought the community would help me with this problem that was not in my control. By simply gambling, we could EASILY pay back this 10 btc through fees. If we reach a total of a fifth of the volume of weeklyponzi.com, we could pay this back. Well the thing is if you really did not intend on scamming and you are the original owner of this account (I am doubtful about the former and am on the fence about the later), then you likely did not take care to hide your identity on here nor on the sites you opened. You have admitted to being behind what is likely illegal gambling sites where you live which would give law enforcement probable cause to get past any whois guard/blocks and to get theymos to give up IP information about your account. Assuming that moreia was really the only one that stole the money, your fingerprints are still on the "gun". I am not trying to scare you, and I honestly did not have any money "invested" in your scam, however I am giving you the blunt and honest truth. |
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Honestly this is not a good way to repay investors, and I would advise anyone to stay away. You should have at least 1.7 BTC from moreia as payment for the privilege to resell your script, plus the 20% he was giving you (you stated that he was selling a lot, so in theory you should have a lot from commissions). You should also have funds from the "fees" from your "honest" ponzi's you were running before moreia robbed you.
You see, this money I got from our partnership (and many other things) was put into the money I paid back to the investors. I didn't need to do this, I'm not the one who ran away. The fees from the ponzi also went into this 2.5 btc, which were not stolen funds, all was made honestly. The way you described things, you were making a lot more then 2.5 BTC (actually .8 BTC if you count the 1.7 he paid you at first) from your partnership. Maybe your standards are different then mine. Like I said a better way would be to use your persona fiat based assets if you do not have any more bitcoin. (or as mentioned above take out a fiat based loan) |
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Honestly this is not a good way to repay investors, and I would advise anyone to stay away. You should have at least 1.7 BTC from moreia as payment for the privilege to resell your script, plus the 20% he was giving you (you stated that he was selling a lot, so in theory you should have a lot from commissions). You should also have funds from the "fees" from your "honest" ponzi's you were running before moreia robbed you.
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The ponzi that I will use to regain funds is going up in an hour. For the investors who want their funds back, please support me in getting your money back. If a trusted user (quickseller could be used) could give me their address to be used as a fees wallet (to hold fees to pay back) that would be fantastic. I probably will have more trouble getting investments if you keep shouting me down, so if you want your monewy back please try to help.
I do not act as escrow. I am not willing to risk my personal funds in the unlikely event that the bitcoin is somehow stolen, not do I want to put in the time/effort into repaying victims for a scam that I warned people against getting into. |
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No he's not. He's just trying to cover his ass. Digging for more evidence now as we speak. Why is he refunding investors then? How you know he's not just refunding his alts ? Also that's not amounting to what he stole . First of all, they aren't my alts, a couple people have already came and thanked me for my payment, and you can see that the choice of people I paid back wasn't arbitrary, I started from the bottom (with the exception of the 2btc tx, and the 1.5 btc tx). The 2btc tx is over the limit and was kept as a donation, so I am not liable for that, but I will still attempt to pay it back if a trusted person helps me get your money back. The 1.5 btc tx was chosen to not be paid, because if I chose to pay back 1.5 I could only refund a couple people, only the big whale and a few others. 0.03 btc is a lot to some people, and I would rather be able to pay back more people than only a handful. The 1.5 btc will be processed next though, when I obtain some more funds. I would say that would still be arbitrary. If the 2 BTC transaction was not allowed then it should have been refunded (minus a TX fee) as soon as it was received. It is also possible that you knew this was coming and invested your own money at a certain time so you could refund as much as possible to yourself |
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TheGamber is an alt of Spoodermen therefore he is an alt of moreia
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How much do you want this acct for
Also do you have any seniors+ for sale?
How much would you be willing to sell your account for? I do see that you have some negative feedback saying that you would not repay loans if you received one so your account value would be a lot lower then it would be otherwise. I do have a senior account with 250+ activity that I can sell for .4 BTCI have a hero account with 500+ activity that I can sell for 1.6 BTC and a hero account with 700+ activity that I can sell for 2.5 BTCI am willing to further discuss pricing on all of my accounts. Let me know. Thanks. I was looking for an offer, If you can lower that hero acct price to 2BTC I'll take it, or to 1.25BTC (the other one) Ofc I'm glad to use an escrow hope that's ok with you I generally offer relatively low prices when buying accounts as I cater to people trying to sell right away verses it taking a long time to find the right buyer that is willing to pay a higher price when selling it yourself. I could go down to 2.3 BTC for the 700 activity hero or 1.3 BTC for the 500+ account. If you wanted to buy both accounts then I could sell them both for 3.3 BTCI do accept escrow but I do ask that we split a 1% escrow fee 50/50 so you would need to pay 100.5% of any agreed upon price (I think this is sufficiently low so that it would not deter using escrow). Im extremely tempted to buy both... But 1.3btc is a big enough debt in my wallet, so I'll take that one for now. There's no negs on that account I hope? All neutral? If there's no rep no worries. I'm fine with the escrow fees proposition, since this is our first trade I'll be happy to pay all fees as long as you keep a few big accts in stock for me in the future and as long as you organise the escrow Thanks Would you accept hilariousandco as escrow? (I have not used him before but he has acted as escrow for a sig campaign before - I would need to ask him if he can act as escrow and can agree to maintain confidentially). I usually use devthedev as escrow but he appears to be offline now. Tomatocage and Maidak appear to be offline now as well (it is almost 5 AM on the east coast in the US so many people will likely be offline). Sure but just to clear up, the escrow does not know the account I'm young right? Last thing I need is it for to be ruined as soon as it's purchased So it'll go down like so, correct if I'm wrong I send coins to escrow You send acct to me when escrow receives coins Escrow releases once account is in my ownership and I've confirmed Righ? The escrow does not know your age. I want to say that I 100% support using escrow, however some people want as few of people as possible to know than an account was purchased so they opt to not use escrow. I can say that I have purchased and sold ~20 accounts with escrow and had zero problems with using escrow. I obviously cannot guarantee future performance but I personally do not think there is any risk to use escrow. The escrow process will generally work like this: We contact escrow requesting their services. Escrow confirms they can assist and provides both of us an escrow address for you to send the bitcoin to. Once I (the seller) sees that the bitcoin has been deposited to escrow I send the account credentials to escrow. The escrow changes the credentials and sends them to you (the buyer) Escrow releases the funds (minus the tip/fee) to me (the seller). The escrow has an incentive to maintain confidentially as if they do not their reputation is on the line and they provide their services to maintain a safe community and breaching this trust would make it so less people would want to use escrow for these types of trades. I am obviously not going to force you to use escrow, as if you are comfortable going first I will certainly allow that as well, but I do not think there is any risk to using escrow. Let me know how you wish to proceed. Alright escrow it is....I prefer escrow.ms tbh but that's fine if we 23 use H&co I've got 3.6BTC stuck in fairproof atm, waiting for release then I'll send to escrow, so please organise it and hopefully when you get back I'll be waiting with all e funds in my wallet  Btw young was meant to be buying, ipad autocorrect. I say no to devthedev and here's why:
I'm planning on opening a HYIP website and he's all over those sites in this department, if he knows it was a purchased account he'll quickly jump onto the thread and let everyone know about it
I need a escrow who isn't that active in the community and doesn't care what I'll do with the account, H&Co and Dev both are massive players in the community and will quickly jump at the thread when they see it pop up
Alright I'll just shoot you a PM, reply when you can. Bear in mind I messaged shorena as well, awaiting response. bitcoininformation recommended to get your opinion. Myself and a few others are consdering opening a Ponzi Game. DO NOT panic, this isn't a ponzi SCHEME or a ponzi SCAM. Ponzi schemes/scams are sites that promise you guaranteed investments using something like trading but really payout with other investor money. A ponzi GAME is a site where it blatantly states it uses the Ponzi structure and that you may lose your coins. Technically, it is legal and considered a gambling game just like a dice site. The reason why I'm PM'ing people is due to the high rise of Ponzi sites by Newbie members. Scams being a massive rise indeed. I am not saying I am going to do this unless members like yourself or shorena approve, but what would your opinion be on a small maximum (like .5btc), automatic and instant ponzi game ran by a member like myself and another two semi-trusted members on this forum? Myself and the other two really want to run an official and trustworthy game on this forum but since so many new sites get their trust ratings ruined from running them it has prevented us greatly. Bear in mind .5BTC maximum with 125% return (24hr rounds) would mean maximum .65BTC (including 5% fees) in the wallet at a time. It would work so that we can't cheat out users (everything on blockchain and only one transaction at a time, everything is instant even if there aren't any confirmations) and of course we'd be able to give everyone realtime support. Fee addresses also listed publicly. The three of us have positive trust here and one is in default trust. I can provide the identities if you want them. I beg you hear us out and give your opinion before you jump to the negative trust button. One issue risen by Mitchełł (bitcoininformation) was this: Well the biggest problem you need to solve is that you and your partner can't send anything to the ponzi to keep it alone. Which is, well, impossible. I stopped giving new ratings but it would be smart to contact Quickseller and shorena what they think about this.
Personally, I wouldn't do it for profit but rather to keep the program activity up. What I would do to avoid this flaw is continue reinvesting a portion of my profit (like 20%) until the program dies that way the ending loss doesn't hit members as hard as what it would if i didn't invest. I wouldn't do it for my own personal gain but yes he is right it is a flaw that is un-preventable even if we wanted to prevent it. There is always that possibility. That's where the trust comes in I suppose. I want to run it by members like yourself before we do anything hence I am PM'ing people privately. I don't want to piss people off I just want to end the scams and have a place where people can play the ponzi game if they choose to play it, and do it safely. Just let me know your opinion (via PM, not in the thread) I'm just asking around because I think it would be a good idea to get a site like this going by a semi-trusted/established member rather than a newbie. Thanks for reading, very much looking forward to your response! Best regards. This is moreia....
highly recommend you flag that account who said they owned this one.
hey
I removed my green on plutonium
please add my trust, i did nothing wrong i dont see why my trust changes because of a comment on anothr person profile
thanks
I added back the positive rating to your trust profile, although it will take some time for it to show up as green again. I do however find your activity highly suspicious, I don't know if you are up to something you shouldn't be doing or if I am just being paranoid......I guess time will tell I asked more about his program, I decided not to invest but he does show some good points. He didn't show proof though, hence I didn't invest I also received a report that you sold the nithor account (that you purchased from me for 1.3) for .8 very shortly before Vod gave the account negative trust for running a HYIP. I was not able to secure any actual evidence on this so I am unable to act on it..... More than happy to prove i still have ownership of that account. who ever told you i sold it is lying. Why don't you PM me from it? Someone told me the were selling it, showed he profile and told me that he bought it for .8 before it got negative trust but swilling to take .2 for it OP has sent me quite a detailed PM of where the funds go and how the revenue is generated and I must say I am quite impressed. Though his methods weren't revealed which is fair enough, all the info he gave me is enough to explain how the bitcoins are receiving their interest.
I'll be gaining some coin to put into this program and keep you all updated when I put my funds in. I think this one is here to stay, or, he did quite a job convincing me!
niothor and plutonium are two more |
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Another alt is moria If you are interested in purchasing the script, Post below or send a PM to Spodermen. You can also add me on skype: flickedswitch
Looks like you just doxed moreia, or should I say flickedswitch. Lots of info out there linked to that Skype handle. It's definitely moreia. They share the same Skype |
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Do you have any other alts that you have not disclosed? If so can you admit to them being your alts and have them post here?
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Just asking - when borrower is leaving his/her account as collateral, account credentials shall be transferred to the lender/escrow - do you change the email on the account in order to avoid reset of credentials? Loan amount required: 0.015-0.01
Term length: Within 4 Days
Interest: Will pay 10-15% interest
Collateral- None but if still my account
Addy- 1BtBqWDJ28o1pWYiqtX1oUcBKpU1d86XSC
You need collateral according to both the OP and the title of this thread Yes, everything, the email password, security question, BTC address is changed while the borrower has their loan outstanding. When they repay the loan the password is changed back to the password prior to the loan (the password the previous owner gave me) in order to prevent any kind of ownership dispute. If they forget what password they gave me then they need to sign a message from the address I funded the loan to
Amount Requested: .75 BTC
Date repayment is to be made: This sunday
Repayment Amount: .825 BTC
Collateral: $250 worth on OPALTKN on the NXT AE
BTC address to fund the loan to: 1PxdyLrCWxYYU1f73LpLcHXa8GEG6aL3Ty
Confirmed, per our conversation, please send 524246.396 OPALTKN to NXT-B9ZZ-6HJP-KJZX-BCE44 and confirm once you send
Amount Requested: .75 BTC
Date repayment is to be made: This sunday
Repayment Amount: .825 BTC
Collateral: $250 worth on OPALTKN on the NXT AE
BTC address to fund the loan to: 1PxdyLrCWxYYU1f73LpLcHXa8GEG6aL3Ty
Confirmed, per our conversation, please send 524246.396 OPALTKN to NXT-B9ZZ-6HJP-KJZX-BCE44 and confirm once you send sent Received TXID 6e42aa00fcd2b9deefed533b6bfa179a1c05495e346bc6e444be5c1ba44ef885 Please repay .825 BTC to 184QFyikUtYLzsGc7Hhn5xAV1rTJmpy6JZ by Jan 25 2015 and either post here or PM me went send so I can send back your collateral.
Amount Requested: .75 BTC
Date repayment is to be made: This sunday
Repayment Amount: .825 BTC
Collateral: $250 worth on OPALTKN on the NXT AE
BTC address to fund the loan to: 1PxdyLrCWxYYU1f73LpLcHXa8GEG6aL3Ty
Confirmed, per our conversation, please send 524246.396 OPALTKN to NXT-B9ZZ-6HJP-KJZX-BCE44 and confirm once you send sent Received TXID 6e42aa00fcd2b9deefed533b6bfa179a1c05495e346bc6e444be5c1ba44ef885 Please repay .825 BTC to 184QFyikUtYLzsGc7Hhn5xAV1rTJmpy6JZ by Jan 25 2015 and either post here or PM me went send so I can send back your collateral. Received Great. Thanks  |
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I am sorry but anyone who would invest any money in a ponzi that you admitted to running that stole money from their investors is an idiot. That is not how you can pay investors back. If you have any person fiat funds or bitcoin funds then you should use that.
Who are moreia's other alt accounts? What proof do you have that they are his alts?
Christ man, formatting.
Also, your story sounds like absolute BS.
Bingo and bingo |
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williamj2543 has admitted to running multiple ponzi sites. If that is not something you want associated with your company then you might want to ask him to remove your signature.
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Since his alt account is banned, he admitted that it is his alt account, and he is posting outside of meta (and meta for reasons other then to appeal his ban) would it be appropriate for him to get banned for ban evading?
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Scam accusation against williamj2534 has been opened https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=929985.0I would like to add that around the time I was added to Default Trust list that I was contacted by william via Skype and was asked if I wanted to buy a dice script. I obviously declined, however I suspect that it contained malware |
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Fine.
Quickseller you got me. I was involved in these sites, and kerimk2 was my alt account.
I will be making a post to explain my story about the parnership of these ponzi sites, ill start writing it.
I assure you that I was not the one who stole the 13btc.
That does not match your OP. |
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