if it can be proven the ownership changed then I would think bigbiz would be willing to accept a significant "haircut" to agree the loan was repaid for account trust purposes I wouldn't, ever. That would mean I had to let go the debt that jasonslow has with me (0.4 BTC) even though the account has been sold to Injust (who refuses to pay). I stick with my principal, if you buy an account, you buy everything. However, that is my opinion and I get it if someone else thinks differently. yea if he refuses to pay anything then yea there is no reason why you would remove the feedback, however if he offered something then I would think of it as getting something is better then nothing especially considering that the debt appears to be over a year old (according to your trust refrence) and for traditional fiat based unsecured loans (like credit cards) the loans are often sold to debt collectors for pennies on the dollar once they fall far enough behind (usually ~6 months)(it may not be this large of a discount but the discount is very large) and both lendrts and debt collectors are usually willing to settle for a lot less then the amount owed (and the credit reporting would be changed to "settled for less then full amount" which is a lot better then delinquent but nowhere near as good as "paid as agreed"). |
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In my opinion, if you buy an account, you buy everything. This includes BTC debts and negative feedback. I wouldn't remove my trust feedback.
if it can be proven the ownership changed then I would think bigbiz would be willing to accept a significant "haircut" to agree the loan was repaid for account trust purposes |
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By the way Quickseller, your feedback is not true. The offer I made for the $275 (the USD worth of the mistaken 2 BTC sent at the time + a generous 10% interest as a nice gesture) was MY OFFER.
I was never made an offer by Bigblitz to accept. I made my offer on the condition all rep would be dropped and the whole thing would be looked past. He shot back and said no it would the first payment on the full payment of 2 BTC you owe. So no I was never made an offer to payback if he ever wanted to settle I made a more than generous offer on his mistake.
You should change your feedback to say I was never offered a settlement of less cause that never happened. And plus it was a gift gesture to completely drop the claim, I still argue I owe nothing.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=877184.msg9798984#msg9798984I would say if big biz were to take you to court then he would get judgment against you. There is no way that you would be able to get all the feedback removed by repaying your debt based on the fact that you offered to pay to have Vod put in the hospital (or some variation of that). Even ignoring the above negative trust would still be appropiate because of how late you would be in repaying (although I would think most people would remove such feedback, myself included). |
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If the buyer were able to get the negative feedback removed then your account would easily be worth 1 btc. I saw a thread saying that you were willing to accept somewhere in the range of .15 for your account. If he is reputable and is willing to give up anonymity then he could more then 6x his money pretty much with no effort
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I assume that escrow was used for this transaction. Can whoever acted as escrow post their opinion as to if they think the ownership actually changed hands? If a very new and/or unknown account purchased the account then the ownership probably did not actually transfer but rather KoS sold the account to himself.
If you're that interested, Tomatocage handled the escrow. So for once Quickseller, you're actually wrong! But please continue on making my account the most untrusted account in history. Its quite sad a dispute over $250 1.5 years ago is leaving this account less trustworthy then Tradefortress who scammed 4000+ BTC. Or that I'm being equalized to BFL who has scammed god knows how much. Its just cute in a way. I've already in my last posts showed how the trust system is extremely flawed so not gonna rant further on that whole topic. He (Tomatocage) hasn't gotten back online but will be releasing my payment back when he does as the buyer has changed all the account info and confirmed this. The person who bought my account has a main account here that currently is in full member standing but for anonymity obviously created a new account. I'd rather you all not remove your feedback cause then I'll think I made out on the bad end here with the price I sold it for [haha] (roughly the price of a full member account with no trust issues). Only reason I haven't left bitcointalk for good yet is cause I haven't rec'd my whopping $30 or so in final BTC for the account. Tomatocage should be able to provide his opinion as to if he thinks there is a good chance the account actually changed hands. It is understandable that the buyer would want anonymity however without releasing his identity to at least tomatocage his investment will in no way potentially be worth what it would otherwise be worth if he proved he is actually a different person then you |
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I assume that escrow was used for this transaction. Can whoever acted as escrow post their opinion as to if they think the ownership actually changed hands? If a very new and/or unknown account purchased the account then the ownership probably did not actually transfer but rather KoS sold the account to himself.
We will never have the proofs that Kingofsports has sold his account really , there is no way to prove that. Sure there is. Were you the escrow? If someone reputable bought the account then it would be possible to confirm the ownership actually changed hands. |
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I assume that escrow was used for this transaction. Can whoever acted as escrow post their opinion as to if they think the ownership actually changed hands? If a very new and/or unknown account purchased the account then the ownership probably did not actually transfer but rather KoS sold the account to himself.
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I wouldn't be able to agree to the later request as the btc address in your profile is one way an account can be recovered. (Escrow is fine provided you pay for it). I can stipulate that any payments received by bitmixer be applied towards the repayment assuming you do repay otherwise they would be the property of the lender.
Are you able to sign a message from an old unedited post to prove ownership of your account?
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Can you offer your account as collateral?
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It is not just about the length of your posts, it is about actually adding to the conversation. A good amount of your posts should be something that others can (and actually do) reply to.
From the looks of it I was right about the reason. I can't comment on the ban evasion part because I don't have access to tools to check this. Do you have more then one account? If so did you use it while your other account was banned?
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If I had to guess I would say it is because of your paid signature plus at least two pages of insubstantial posts. The two pages I looked at are very short mostly two (very short) sentences that really do not add to the conversation.
If you are banned for 60 days this is most likely not your first ban
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Now I don't see any mention of any kind of gambling in the OP. Would it be safe to accurately say that you do not in any way gamble with your investors' bitcoin?
Gambling is not a safe nor profitable way to earn investor funds as far as we are concerned. So to be clear you are not in any way gambling with investors funds. You are not using any investor funds in any kind of casino, nor is any investor funds ever "touching" a casino. Correct? We do use mixing services that may go through casinos when converting to Fiat currencies. That is the only time a casino would be used. Can you name the mixing services that you use? Why would you use a mixing service to convert to fiat? Wouldn't mixing services cause you to have less transparency despite your OP claiming to be transparent with your investors? Don't mixing services cost money? Would the use of mixing services cause your investors to have a lower return then they would otherwise have? At the start of the program someone emailed in offering to do mixing for a small fee (1.75%) which we took. Mixing services are used just in case investors have been taking part in illegal activity, in which we did have an investor who steals bitcoins as far as what online records show of his address. We can't afford to be taken responsible for these actions hence we use these services. If you had records of who invested what, wouldn't you be able to return any stolen money to their respective owner? Bitcoin is fungible so even if the money could be traced back to you then your bitcoin would still be just as good. If someone had used stolen money then it would still be traced back to you because it would have to go through your "main" address. right? 1.75% is a lot for a mixing service, both bit mixer and bitcoin fog charge significantly less. What is the name of your mixing service? That's considered stealing. Despite the past of the coins, we can't interfere with situations like that. 1.75% covers what we need to be covered. You didn't answer my questions. If you received a valid, lawful, legally enforceable order to return money that someone had stolen then why couldn't you return the money that someone had invested in your service? If the money that someone had stolen went through your "main" address then couldn't the stolen money be traced back to you? What is the name of your mixing service? 1.75% is much more then other very reputable mixing services that can protect your privacy I'm confused what you are trying to say Are you trying to say return the stolen funds to where they were stolen from or the address that invested? Like I said we were offered the service, it's private, not public I am saying that if law enforcement were to determine that a specific bitcoin address deposited funds into your "investment" then you could give law enforcement that money assuming that have a lawful and enforceable seizure order for that specific bitcoin. All the money that is deposited by your investors will be traced through the blockchain and eventually back to you. If that was the case then you could be identified What is the name of the mixing service that you use? I cannot see any reason why you would use such a service. Using a mixing service is only going to come your investors money. Why are you paying such an above market rate ofr such a small amount |
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Did I just witness someone being pressured by other forum members to delete half of his trust list? It's his trust and his responsibility.
"I don't think he should continue to be at depth 1 if he refuses to be more selective with his trust list" = you should kick some people from your trust or we'll have you kicked you from default.
Soon when someone gets added to default trust we'll have a crowd asking for the right to vote him out.
Yeah that annoyed me,it was also worded really too hard. But It did bring my understanding to the level it should be at. I will most likely do a few more changes in it. It's good that you were able to adapt to the requests of the community. Every default trust member should be like you.  Agreed. Like I said before there is nothing wrong with how your trust list was before, it is just that now your just list affects the entire community, so you should ensure that it only has people that you would personally want to be on default trust list. IMO your actions are very reputable and trustworthy +1 |
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If you are selling your account (you are according to your other thread) then this would not be the best investment.
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The vote is split fairly evenly, so this isn't very helpful. But I've decided to table this particular proposal for now.
For those that I am familiar with, I am not surprised with how everyone voted. What do all the colors mean though? |
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Now I don't see any mention of any kind of gambling in the OP. Would it be safe to accurately say that you do not in any way gamble with your investors' bitcoin?
Gambling is not a safe nor profitable way to earn investor funds as far as we are concerned. So to be clear you are not in any way gambling with investors funds. You are not using any investor funds in any kind of casino, nor is any investor funds ever "touching" a casino. Correct? We do use mixing services that may go through casinos when converting to Fiat currencies. That is the only time a casino would be used. Can you name the mixing services that you use? Why would you use a mixing service to convert to fiat? Wouldn't mixing services cause you to have less transparency despite your OP claiming to be transparent with your investors? Don't mixing services cost money? Would the use of mixing services cause your investors to have a lower return then they would otherwise have? At the start of the program someone emailed in offering to do mixing for a small fee (1.75%) which we took. Mixing services are used just in case investors have been taking part in illegal activity, in which we did have an investor who steals bitcoins as far as what online records show of his address. We can't afford to be taken responsible for these actions hence we use these services. If you had records of who invested what, wouldn't you be able to return any stolen money to their respective owner? Bitcoin is fungible so even if the money could be traced back to you then your bitcoin would still be just as good. If someone had used stolen money then it would still be traced back to you because it would have to go through your "main" address. right? 1.75% is a lot for a mixing service, both bit mixer and bitcoin fog charge significantly less. What is the name of your mixing service? That's considered stealing. Despite the past of the coins, we can't interfere with situations like that. 1.75% covers what we need to be covered. You didn't answer my questions. If you received a valid, lawful, legally enforceable order to return money that someone had stolen then why couldn't you return the money that someone had invested in your service? If the money that someone had stolen went through your "main" address then couldn't the stolen money be traced back to you? What is the name of your mixing service? 1.75% is much more then other very reputable mixing services that can protect your privacy |
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Now I don't see any mention of any kind of gambling in the OP. Would it be safe to accurately say that you do not in any way gamble with your investors' bitcoin?
Gambling is not a safe nor profitable way to earn investor funds as far as we are concerned. So to be clear you are not in any way gambling with investors funds. You are not using any investor funds in any kind of casino, nor is any investor funds ever "touching" a casino. Correct? We do use mixing services that may go through casinos when converting to Fiat currencies. That is the only time a casino would be used. Can you name the mixing services that you use? Why would you use a mixing service to convert to fiat? Wouldn't mixing services cause you to have less transparency despite your OP claiming to be transparent with your investors? Don't mixing services cost money? Would the use of mixing services cause your investors to have a lower return then they would otherwise have? At the start of the program someone emailed in offering to do mixing for a small fee (1.75%) which we took. Mixing services are used just in case investors have been taking part in illegal activity, in which we did have an investor who steals bitcoins as far as what online records show of his address. We can't afford to be taken responsible for these actions hence we use these services. If you had records of who invested what, wouldn't you be able to return any stolen money to their respective owner? Bitcoin is fungible so even if the money could be traced back to you then your bitcoin would still be just as good. If someone had used stolen money then it would still be traced back to you because it would have to go through your "main" address. right? 1.75% is a lot for a mixing service, both bit mixer and bitcoin fog charge significantly less. What is the name of your mixing service? |
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Now I don't see any mention of any kind of gambling in the OP. Would it be safe to accurately say that you do not in any way gamble with your investors' bitcoin?
Gambling is not a safe nor profitable way to earn investor funds as far as we are concerned. So to be clear you are not in any way gambling with investors funds. You are not using any investor funds in any kind of casino, nor is any investor funds ever "touching" a casino. Correct? We do use mixing services that may go through casinos when converting to Fiat currencies. That is the only time a casino would be used. Can you name the mixing services that you use? Why would you use a mixing service to convert to fiat? Wouldn't mixing services cause you to have less transparency despite your OP claiming to be transparent with your investors? Don't mixing services cost money? Would the use of mixing services cause your investors to have a lower return then they would otherwise have? |
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Now I don't see any mention of any kind of gambling in the OP. Would it be safe to accurately say that you do not in any way gamble with your investors' bitcoin?
Gambling is not a safe nor profitable way to earn investor funds as far as we are concerned. So to be clear you are not in any way gambling with investors funds. You are not using any investor funds in any kind of casino, nor is any investor funds ever "touching" a casino. Correct? |
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Now I don't see any mention of any kind of gambling in the OP. Would it be safe to accurately say that you do not in any way gamble with your investors' bitcoin?
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