A self-regulatory organization (SRO) could be created which serves to provide guidance and supervision to exchanges. This would not involve governments, but an elected group, probably elected by various exchanges, regarding the operation of the exchanges. Joining would be completely voluntary. Public confidence in bitcoin would increase. Finally, mistakes (or fraud) in situations like gox would be greatly reduced.
this^. But when you elect a group of people they will gradually essentially become a government and that's when corruption comes in, then we're back to square one. "Probably elected by various exchanges", would just bring in people with corporate interests and become some sort of Bitcoin Foundation (look how well that's been going). The people who join these groups and rise to power usually have self or other business interests motivating them.
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They'll make regulation work. They might not be able to regulate it from the actual protocol, but they'll regulate it when we spend or earn it. Governments aren't really just going to sit back and let us earn and launder money freely; they're going to want their cut.
I've been hearing this nonsense for over 3 years now, and still haven't had to deal with any regulations. What you're saying hilariousandco isn't new at all, and it is as wrong now as it was 3 years ago. Did you even read the article, or are you just doing your usual statist trolling? You might not've had to deal with any regulations yet, but you most certainly will. Bitcoin has only really started to break into the mainstream, so they haven't had long to look at how to deal with it. Do you really think the government is just going to let us have our own money to play with? Governments don't have a choice - they can't. I guess you just don't understand how bitcoin works - its just file sharing. How well has the government stopped that? Maybe you're so obedient you've never figured it out, but anyone can go online and watch a movie that is not yet on dvd, or download their favorite music for free - both supposedly illegal. Chuck Schumer was supposed to regulate bitcoin 3 years ago - what's taking him so long? Why hasn't the government regulated torrents? Same reason - they can't. Saying you're a statist troll was me trying to be nice. The only other explanation is that you're just really stupid and don't understand how bitcoin works. I know exactly how Bitcoin works. I don't think you know how regulation does or doesn’t work though. Although Bitcoin and torrents are based around the same principle, torrents are not a currency. Just because they haven't or can't regulate illegally downloading movies doesn't mean they can't with Bitcoin. Drugs are 'regulated' but you can still buy them illegally, does that mean they're unregulatable too? Nothing is regulatable 100%, that's why blackmarkets exists, but governments don't just let them be without trying to take them down or their cut. And I've already said they can't regulate the protocol, but they can regulate when you buy goods or services or get paid in it just like cash. Obviously it'll never be 100% taxable or regulatable but they can't do that with cash either. Edit:
Just looked at your profile, hilariousandco - over 6000 posts since just Nov 2013??? No one with a regular life spends that much time on here. I spend too much time on here and haven't made that many posts since April of 2011! You're a paid troll, no doubt about it. Welcome to my personal ignore-land.
Nice edit, but that's just a petty and pathetic attempt at a cop out for when you have a difference of opinion and can't back it up, but whatever.
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They'll make regulation work. They might not be able to regulate it from the actual protocol, but they'll regulate it when we spend or earn it. Governments aren't really just going to sit back and let us earn and launder money freely; they're going to want their cut.
I've been hearing this nonsense for over 3 years now, and still haven't had to deal with any regulations. What you're saying hilariousandco isn't new at all, and it is as wrong now as it was 3 years ago. Did you even read the article, or are you just doing your usual statist trolling? You might not've had to deal with any regulations yet, but you most certainly will. Bitcoin has only really started to break into the mainstream, so they haven't had long to look at how to deal with it. Do you really think the government is just going to let us have our own money to play with? Here in the UK you already have to pay capital gains tax if you sell over a certain amount. I'm sure this is just a temporary solution to claw at what they can whilst they look at other options. And yes, I read it, and I'm not a statist, Why is it I'm only trolling when I have a different opinion to somebody? I'm not arguing in favour of them doing it, I'm saying they will, but I guess you're one of these fuck da government armchair anarchist types who still gladly pay their masters wages, but think they've found a magical untaxable way out of the matrix with Bitcoin, right?
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Is Bitscoin another altcoin? I must admit that the name has some potential.
Mt. Goth only deals in Bitscoin. They're supposedly adding Litscoin soon though ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . Does anyone know what the exact security loop hole it was that brought these guys down, was it a Finney attack of some kind? I thought it was something to do with people making it look like they were deposits on the block chain but they weren't actually getting deposited.
I think that security issue was just a bad excuse for the company. They claimed that users manually requested double spending, but anyone, who had experience with mtgox's support knows that it takes more then a week for them to get back with an answer to any question. I can not imagine they loose that much on this security flow. Something was wrong with a company for a long time, they just passed the point of no return and closed the service. Its a pity people lost so much fiat and coins with gox. Yup, it was just their pure incompetence and shoddily run business.
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If you search for the address on the blockchain you can sometimes work it out or sometimes they might be signed faucet payout or whatever. Post the address and transaction ID here and somebody might know. You could also try googling the address and see what comes up.
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What if the 'Bitcoin Revolution' actually takes 20 years to happen... instead of happening this year (2014) ?
What if it never happens? It probably wont. Why? Because people. If people had any sense there would be revolutions daily. People don't know what's good for them and they would just like to get on with their miserable lives without any fuss as long as nobody bothers them.
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No they don't. True feminism is about equality.
This. If you see some-one campaigning for skyscrapers to be shaped like vulvas instead of penises, or for all males to be sterilized don't think "dem feminists be crazy" - it's pretty much just that person who is crazy. Most real feminists don't make tabloid headlines because they're too busy fighting mistreatment of women in the third world, or campaigning for better science and maths education for girls, or trying to change people's backward perceptions about parenthood and careers. They're continuing in a long tradition of fighting for equality and should be admired. Exactly. It's like people campaigning for equal rights for being a minority. They don't want to be elite or think they're better than you, they just want to be treated fairly and the same as everyone else and so they should be. Would you take the extreme opinion of a ranting and raving black supremacist and then say all these Africans activists think they're better than us and hate white people? No. People usually complain for a good reason, and so do most feminists. Most feminists do not want to be treated like poor defenceless animals, they want to be treated as humans.
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None of them are going to be around for much longer by the looks the mods have said they are going to be banned them pretty soon which will be a shame and I'm sure they will lose a lot of members because of that.
They haven't said that at all. They've been talking about it for quite some time, but no decision has been made yet. None of them are going to be around for much longer by the looks the mods have said they are going to be banned them pretty soon which will be a shame and I'm sure they will lose a lot of members because of that.
If people were here just because of the sig campaigns, then that would probably be a good thing for the forum... ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Yes but there are other sites which offer this now Bitcoin related sites and they are having some good traffic it seems I mostly read before sigining up for signature advetising. No advertiser is going to pay much for people to post on a forum that gets hardly any hits. The reason they pay so much for this site is because of the massive user base.
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They'll make regulation work. They might not be able to regulate it from the actual protocol, but they'll regulate it when we spend or earn it. Governments aren't really just going to sit back and let us earn and launder money freely; they're going to want their cut.
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Mt.Gox, once the world's largest bitcoin exchange, is "at a turning point," CEO Mark Karpeles told Reuters in an email, as the trading website remained down on Tuesday after halting withdrawals earlier in February.
In an emailed response to a question of whether the Tokyo-based exchange was dead, Karpeles said: "We should have an official announcement ready soon-ish. We are currently at a turning point for the business. I can't tell much more for now as this also involves other parties."
The digital marketplace operator said earlier this month that it had detected "unusual activity" and its office in Tokyo was empty on Tuesday, barring a handful of protesters saying they had lost money in the virtual currency.
It really annoys me how Mark makes these pointless and confusing announcements that tell us nothing and could indicate either good or bad things. He should either make a proper announcement that actually give some details or information or not bother at all.
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Wow.. look at the comments. So much butthurt and envy
This is to be expected on all mainstream media articles that allow comments. A load of technophobes and cryptobleb naysayers who can't wait to tell you I told you so to every piece of misinformation they see.
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Yeah, it is a great article and probably the best and most concise on the Gox fiasco. Welcome to the Free Market. No bailouts. No subsidies. No taxpayer-funded lifelines for corporate crybabies and greasy-palmed hucksters. And no treating customers like s@#t. Well, unless you're Gox.
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By "react accordingly" I assume he means "continue hiding".
Or more probably "act only when forced to do so by law". They're just causing more damage to Bitcoin and the community by keeping everybody in the dark.
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It's not looking good now the police are investigating. There's another recent and related article on Sky here, but have any Bitcoins actually been confirmed missing or stolen, or are they going on possible misinformation and unconfirmed sources / speculation?
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http://news.sky.com/story/1217499/mt-gox-bitcoin-theft-faces-japan-probeAuthorities in Japan have confimed an investigation into the alleged theft of Bitcoins from Tokyo-based exchange Mt Gox.
Japan's Chief Cabinet Secretary made the announcement a day after the Mt Gox website was taken down by the company to protect users, leaving open the possibility of huge losses for investors and prompting the Bitcoin exchange industry to defend its future.
Yoshihide Suga told reporters: "I understand that ministries and agencies concerned - financial services, police and the finance ministry - are looking into the matter to learn the full scope of the issue.
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I'm not sure we can announce Gox as officially dead yet. I'd say it's in a coma and it's not looking good though ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) .
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Erm if you lot mean the decent-sized report on the BBC news on Tuesday night - this wasn't a 20 second brief mention of Bitcoin, it was a full report on the Gox situation, with the background being the official font for 'bitcoin' and the usual red bitcoin symbol, along with a backdrop of a bunch of Casascius coins.
Robert Peston - the BBC financial reporter, is usually very negative towards anything revolutionary. I was expecting a condescending put-down and 'told-you-so' about the recent panic selling caused by the Gox exchange.
However, ***by BBC standards*** this was FANTASTICALLY neutral and they made it clear that whilst Gox is failing, the other exchanges (quote) 'are operating as normal'.
A typical BBC report on Bitcoin would normally be full of FUD and misinformation.
This time??? No mention of Silk Road / etc. or black market uses of Bitcoin. No mention of money laundering.
The last few BBC articles have actually been pretty good on Bitcoin and have either been neutral or pretty positive explaining its benefits etc.
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faucets don't really earn much
Why do you need such a small and specific amount? I'd just either buy it or try sell something on the marketplace etc.
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