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141  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Genesis Vision - Decentralized platform for the trust management on: October 10, 2017, 06:38:10 PM
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We don’t hire managers; we don’t control their strategies. We only unite all of them in a single decentralized network. Each investment will be charged 0.5% of the operation amount.
But if some bad manager lost all investors money, can you influence to him and prohibit him trading more?
We won't take measures, but everyone will be able to see manager's statistics.

You do a good job on this thread devs it's amazing that you answer every question somebody asked and this every day. That's something you don't see that often.
We appreciate it! We are glad to answer every question. See you tomorrow Smiley

I don't understand this. Ok it is good for joiners, he makes his option but there is not an obligation.
But i don't understand that what is in it for you?
Recent ICO campaigns identified a number of problems in the investing process:

- People who have been following the project for a long time can simply be late to invest money.
- A large influx of transactions in the first minutes after the launch of the ICO creates difficulties for ICO
investors and other Ethereum blockchain users.
- Due to the geographical dispersion of investors, participation for many of them may be compounded by the
fact that the launch of ICO falls on a deep night in their time zone.
- Early investment bonuses are often given not to actual first supporters, but to those who managed to be the
first to carry out a transaction in the blockchain.

To solve these and a number of other problems, Genesis Vision team is launching an option program for ICO
participation.

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We don’t hire managers; we don’t control their strategies. We only unite all of them in a single decentralized network. Each investment will be charged 0.5% of the operation amount.

But if some bad manager lost all investors money, can you influence to him and prohibit him trading more?
I doubt in that. There must be some kind of KYC verification and even this won't prevent you from identity stealing or other form of frauds
All the managers will go through cryto exchanges' KYC verification. Users don't have to pass verification process in Gevesis Vision platform. As usual to become a manager in any broker you have to pass full verification process (including KYC).

Unfortunately, alpha version will be launched in the first quarter of 2018. Currently we have a working solution, but it is not decentralised. Let me explain the situation with current solution: It is not a prototype, but already built solution, which already sold to more than 80 companies in the world. Unfortunately, this solution is not open-source, so we could not provide you with the code.
So we put this to the blockchain, and  in the first quarter of 2018, it will be ready.

OK, understood, you think there will be at least a chance to see a video about it? And what do you mean by "sold"? You sold your centralized solution but the decentralized one will be open-source as far as I understood. Why buy a product when it will be open-source soon?
Centralized solution was sold because it is in high demand.

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We don’t hire managers; we don’t control their strategies. We only unite all of them in a single decentralized network. Each investment will be charged 0.5% of the operation amount.

But if some bad manager lost all investors money, can you influence to him and prohibit him trading more?

i think thats the risk everybody should take on his own. trusting managers always involves a (higher or lower risk)

that's why there will be a reputation system implemented. so people can judge the performance of the manager.
this rating will be very useful, and everyone will be able to choose a more successful manager, of course this does not give a 100% guarantee, but still the chances that your funds will increase significantly will grow

Won't the performance of the managers also be visible by how much percentage growth they accomplish?  Cheesy Judge them by the numbers.
Sure statistics will show all profits and losts results.

Thanks for your anwers genesis.vision. So your partners include 400 brokers around the world...nice! And what about cryptocurrencies exchanges? Afaik they aren't brokers because when people buy tokens, they buy other people's tokens.

you mean, that they have already 400 partner brokers? Or they planning?
Our partners' companies have been engaged in technological maintenance and software development for brokerage companies, mainly in foreign exchange markets. All of these companies are potential brokers for the project. Considering our more than 400 contacts with brokerages among our partners and advisers, we expect at least 100 brokerages to join our distributed system within 2 years.

I see your ad on the Internet about finding employees. How many people do you have in your team and who else do you need?
You can see our team on the website. We are planning to expand the stuff in 5 times.

Educate me in what is the meaning of a transparent investment system? Why should a trader show his knowledge to everyone?
Because there are some advantages for managers:
• There are increased opportunities to attract investors from any country
• Managers issue their own branded cryptocurrency, which can be freely traded by investors.
• There are excellent opportunities for promoting your own trading strategy to attract more investors.
• There is increased investor confidence, due to guaranteed transparency, which will lead to an increase in the average investor's check.

I look at the road map and see that the alpha version will be released in 2018. Why should I buy tokens on ICO? just for the sake of bonuses?
It is your decision to buy tokens or not. To support the development of the innovative Genesis Vision, you can buy our token.

I read somewhere that there are 7 levels of investments limits but, I could not find the numbers anywhere.
There will be 7 trust levels totally, and traders will each have a level based on their trading history and whether this history was successful or not. Level 1 managers are required to have at least 1 000 USD in GVT equivalent of their own funds on the platform and their maximum investment pool can be only 1 000 USD worth of GVT. More trusted managers will be able to attract investments up to 1 000 000 USD in GVT equivalent.

Regarding the use of the Blockchain technology behind the project. Is the Blockchain necessary? I think the business problem doesn’t really exist, isn’t significant enough and cannot be solved by a Blockchain.
What are key features of GenesisVision that set it apart from other options?
And the market size is truly as big as the ICO claims and that the solution is possible. Evidence please?

The trust management market is growing rapidly every year. According to the Boston Consulting Group report
Global Asset Management 2016, the total amount of funds in management is more than $70 trillion.
Despite the industry's steady growth, existing trust management mechanisms do not meet the requirements of modern investors and managers.
Trust management industry suffers from fakers, unfair money managers, hidden processes and strong regulation. There is no consolidated reliable source of information or statistics. This leads to serious limitations, lack of information, lack of transparency and, consequently, a lack of trust.

By using the blockchain technology, Genesis Vision unites huge trust management industry into a single decentralized network, making the financial market transparent and even more global. This will help to re-establish trust in the market and open up new avenues for investment in the digital era.

We recommend you to read our whitepaper.

Has it been confirmed that the exchanges will need to install a plugin? I thought the trading app's like meta trader just needed to install a plugin, not the exchanges?
We will provide different plug-ins.

How big is the market? Have you done the math to determine your total addressable Market?
The trust management market is growing rapidly every year. According to PwC analysis[1], global investable assets for the asset management industry will increase to more than $100 trillion by 2020, with a compound annual growth rate of nearly 6%.

Profits are going to be paid in GVT right? Because it's what I'm reading in the whitepaper, "GVT will be used for all investment operations, profit distributions, and managers’ token trading on the internal exchange."
Yes, profit will be distributed in GVT, as well as all investment operations.

start date 15 oct. It is time to buy more ETH. is there any white list or Pre-Sale?
Unfortunately, we do not have a whitelist.

Thank you for the explanation. But the second question, probably I could not properly ask. That's what I mean. Suppose the manager sold 1,000 coins for $ 1. Then the manager got a profit and now has $ 10,000. Then these coins, which already own investors, also increase in price to $ 10? And to get your profit, the investor can just sell these coins? Or the second option: the manager pays to all holders of coins profit in proportion to the number of coins they have? And then the owners of coins can receive profit from the manager while owning coins?
In the first variant, the profit itself does not directly go to investors. In the second variant the profit goes to them directly, minus the remuneration of the manager (commission).
From the documents, I did not quite understand how exactly the profit is made by investors.
Holders of coins receive part of the profits of the manager, according to their share. The investor has the right to transfer coins to another Ethereum wallet or sell on the internal exchange.
A manager doesn't distribute the profit, the profit will be distributed automatically by the smart contract.
The second varient is true - "the profit goes to them directly, minus the remuneration of the manager (commission)."

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I will visit this mate and see it by myself if how well the team can provide and they will handle the project properly and accordingly. thanks.
What you mean? they have some meetUp or conference? If yes, can you give me link or some information about this please?
Unfortunately, we couldn't synchronize the conference with our schedule because the ICO starts in a few days.
142  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO] Genesis Vision Bounty campaign on: October 10, 2017, 02:26:31 PM
Hello to our Facebook and Twitter bounty program participants! Facebook and Twitter stakes will be distributed in the next 72 hours due to high Facebook reposting activity
Oh I can see a lot of people posting their reports. However, I see that my stakes were updated except for Week 5 - Facebook bounty. ICO is over right so is the bounty?
Our bounty system calculates automatically. There may be an error. Please provide your report with reposts for manual calculations.
We bring our appologize for misunderstanding. ICO as the bounty compaign hasn't been finished yet. There was a delay with crediting stakes because of a big amount of participants. At this moment stakes for the 5 week (30 Sep - 6 Oct) are in the spreadshit.

dear sir, i have join bounty soscial media campaign Twetter and Facebook, i see in this thread, many users have join bounty campaign, post in this  thread about their activity tweeter and facebook, do i every week should post in this thread, post my activity twetter and facebook? Thanks
if I am not mistaken about the rule, we do not need to post in the thread, thanks, please correct me
Reports are not required. But if a mistake occures we can ask you for a report.

Hello!
Why do I have a pass for this week?
Here is my tweet
https://twitter.com/faraon_m/status/916679493460295680
And retweets you yourself see
spreadsheets #249
Hello! You tweeted on the 7-th of October. It will be counted in the next reporting week.

Joined your twitter campaign.
You have a little mistake in rules in this thread or in the registration form.
Here is written you must have twitter audit more than 80% and in the form 90%.
So where is true information? Huh
Correct information was in the registration form (90%). Currently it is all updated.

Joined your twitter and signature campaign.
But signature didn't meet size's and is more than 150 symbols.
Maybe i missed smth? Help me plz

Fixed!
Great thanks for support help!
Thank you for a notification. It was fixed.

thank dev ! Satkes are credited !
but i still can't join your Telegram chanel
you must post invite link to your chanel , not you chanel link .
it noiti me " there is no account with this username "
Here is your invitation link https://t.me/joinchat/DmadcT7faDONySc9GmgIhg
143  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO] Genesis Vision Bounty campaign on: October 10, 2017, 11:53:54 AM
Dear Facebook and Twitter participants!
Steaks are credited. Due to the fact that they are credited automatically there may be errors. All the steaks you can check in the spreadshit. If you have any questions, write here or in the telegram channel https://t.me/genesisvision_bounty.
144  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Genesis Vision - Decentralized platform for the trust management on: October 09, 2017, 04:23:57 PM
Well, I'm looking for some details about the presale too.

If I understood correctly there was one, but we don't know how much was sold ?

Wasn't $2.3 in option tokens (not GVT) or it was more? Also I wanna know if 1 option token = 1 GVT and what was the bonus atteched to them
Our pre-sale was in form of Options sale. So $2.3M is the equivalent value of GVT, reserved for the ICO stage.

An option is a financial derivative that represents a contract sold by one party (the option writer) to another party (the option holder). The contract offers the buyer the right, but not the obligation, to buy (call) or sell (put) a security or other financial asset at an agreed-upon price (the strike price) during a certain period or on a specific date (exercise date).

Genesis Vision option guarantees the right to acquire GVT tokens at a specified price during the ICO, so you have to pay only 5% on Pre-ICO and the remaining 95% you will have to pay during the ICO.

A trust management blockchain used for any assets ? And this thread is only 20 pages ? This one is going to be interesting to follow
It can be used for any asset.

is there genesis vision project hire top traders or will hire in future and how much fees for trade genesis or manager will charge and trader connect fund with system?
We don’t hire managers; we don’t control their strategies. We only unite all of them in a single decentralized network. Each investment will be charged 0.5% of the operation amount.

next question is inevitable, are you in talk with some exchanges to add your plug-in? And about forex platforms, are you sure they're gonna move their funds into the eth blockchain? Only platform I see around it will be spectre because the broker is basically a smart contract
First of all, we would like to note that we already have partners preceding our launch who will provide an active client base (our partners include 400 brokers around the world). “Fair” brokers will be happy to join Genesis Vision and confirm their transparency publicly.

These factors will lead to Genesis Vision network being big enough to provide incentives for brokers, who currently have something to hide. In this situation, the initiative usually comes not from a broker, but from his clients, desiring to participate in Genesis Vision. Since our platform provides many advantages for brokers’ clients, brokers, rejecting connection to Genesis Vision will simply start losing clients. For example, if an investor wants to get access to the huge list of Genesis Vision’s managers, and his current broker refuses to join the network, he will probably decide to change the broker. Luckily, Genesis Vision’s client base of brokers will be already big enough to choose from. In this way, each non-transparent broker has a choice, either stick to obsolete operation model or move forward in transparent and fair future together with Genesis Vision.

If manager lost investors money? than investors also lost? And also, what will be with this manager? He will got negative rating?

If that manager lose all his money you're going to lose your invested money and genesis vision can do nothing about that. The only thing you can do afterwards is to deprecate that manager so that other people will not invest in him

But he also lost him trust and rating? Right?
So, we must сhoose only trusted managers...
Of course, you always have to look at managers rating because it depends on trading statistics.

Is there a demo version for Android now?
I really want to take a look before contribute on this project.

i want to ask this question too , before ico start if there have beta version or demo will gain more investor attation ,that's better for ico movement.
Unfortunately, alpha version will be launched in the first quarter of 2018. Currently we have a working solution, but it is not decentralised. Let me explain the situation with current solution: It is not a prototype, but already built solution, which already sold to more than 80 companies in the world. Unfortunately, this solution is not open-source, so we could not provide you with the code.
So we put this to the blockchain, and  in the first quarter of 2018, it will be ready.

Well, so the owner of a trading platform (i.e. bittrex, polo, etc.) are the broker who have install the software and will trade? That makes no sense to me  Huh
Let's divide the notions of a manager and broker.
Managers are companies/individuals/traders with a proven trading history, ready to acquire investors' money for management.
Brokers are companies that have the appropriate licenses to carry out brokerage activities.Through brokers, traders have access to trading financial instruments on exchange and over-the-counter markets.
Broker can instull Genesis Vision software, which is free and distributed with an open license.
Brokers doen't trade, but can provide potential managers’ access to the Genesis Vision Manager registration function in their client application - generally a "Become a Genesis Vision Manager" button.

Can someone please ELI5 me what this platform does? No fancy words.
Trust management industry suffers from fakers, unfair money managers, hidden processes and strong regulation. There is no consolidated reliable source of information or statistics. This leads to serious limitations, lack of information, lack of transparency and, consequently, a lack of trust.
The main goal of Genesis Vision is to bring transparency and stability to the traditional financial markets.

Will there be bots to invest automatically in high performing trader?
It will be a Genesis Vision fund. 5% GVT will form the Genesis Vision fund. Tokens from this fund will be regularly invested in successful platform managers. We plan to keep the fund operating regardless of the profit it generates, constantly stimulating Genesis Vision managers’ activity.

Which % of trading manager profits we can receive? If Ill give to manager 1000$ for trading, how much ill receive from this?

All manager's trading profit minus manager's commission minus operation commission (0,5% according to the whitepaper) is distributed among investors.
If you invest any amount of money into a certain manager's coins, you profit depends on a manager's investing abilities (minus the above mentioned commissions).

Well the manager's commission will be put up by the manager himself, right? Like how much he want to become for his trading?
perhaps the more successfully the manager trades, the more % for his work - so it would be correct. although I'm not sure, need to read

Usually, the manager's commission is a small percentage of funds under management, but it would be more logical here if it would be percentage of profit. Probably it will be regulated somehow, like max commission will be set or something similar.
Which comissions managers taking for himself? May I choose tokens? Or only managers?
Yes, you are right. Manager sets all parameters of trading by himself. But there will be some reasonable limitis. It is early to determine the exact numbers on the development stage.

I would like to consider several issues that are not entirely clear to me:
Investors buy manager coins, which the manager can only create for the amount of his deposit? (for example, at $ 1000 creates 1000 coins).
Or can a manager create any number of his coins?
These coins give the investor the right to profit only from the originally invested funds, and the manager gives profit in exchange for coins? Or can you own coins for a long time and constantly make a profit?
Manager's tokens are equal to amount of the deposit.
Genesis Vision platform is powered by Ethereum smart contracts, which are basically open-source apps running on the blockchain. Smart contracts are coded in a way that will allow on-demand creation of new tokens — manager’s tokens. Each new registered manager will issue his own cryptocurrency, which will be traded on the internal Genesis Vision exchange.
The form of sale of manager’s tokens will depend on the form of coins issue. During initial manager’s token issue, coins will be sold by a manager directly and their price will be fixed. In any event, the maximum market capitalization of a manager token (maximum investment pool) depends on the trust level of a manager.
After the initial sale is finished, manager tokens will be freely traded between users of Genesis Vision on the platform own exchange. From that point on, the price will be unpinned. It will be defined entirely by the market based on how successful a manager is.

Which % of trading manager profits we can receive? If Ill give to manager 1000$ for trading, how much ill receive from this?
All manager's trading profit minus manager's commission minus operation commission (0,5% according to the whitepaper) is distributed among investors.
If you invest any amount of money into a certain manager's coins, you profit depends on a manager's investing abilities (minus the above mentioned commissions).
Are they going to show the manager's investment record or at least statistics? This would be extremely helpful in choosing a manager.
Investors have access to managers from all over the world. Information is available on their trading and profit statistics, which will be accessible in one place. All managers’ trades will be automatically verified, uploaded, and recorded in a smart contract, building a trustworthy trading history and statistics.

I am 5 and what is a trust manager? What is a portfolio and what is investing? I don't understand anything you just said! Grin
Trust management is a form of interrelationship of an investor and a finance manager (trustee). Under the trust management an investor (a private individual or an organization) delivers financial assets for trust management by a third party on preliminarily agreed conditions.
Managers
Management funds/traders are companies/individuals with a proven trading history, ready
to acquire investors' money for management.
Investors
Investors do not trade in the market directly. Instead, investors transfer their funds to
experienced traders who manage the funds for them. Investors get their shares from their
managers’ profits.
Brokers
Brokers are companies that have the appropriate licenses to carry out brokerage activities.
Through brokers, traders have access to trading financial instruments on exchange and
over-the-counter markets.
For understanding an investment process we recommend to read the next article https://blog.genesis.vision/investment-platform-of-the-future-how-to-invest-58de7300774a
145  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Genesis Vision - Decentralized platform for the trust management on: October 09, 2017, 12:49:43 PM
what kind of services genesis vision going to providing. i means how many and what kind of services?
1) GV creates a truly decentralized global financial network. GV will unite exchanges, brokers, traders, and investors into a decentralized, open and fair network.
2) The smart contract technology that underlies the platform provides an automated and absolutely transparent system for investment and profit distribution.This will bring transparency to the market.
3) GV provides additional instruments to check the real trading history and statistics, since this is one of the main issues within the industry, whereby there is a lot of fake data.
4) The company changes the process of investing, making it more sought-after.Each manager in the Genesis Vision network has his own cryptocurrency. The size of the issue depends on successful trade statistics. The process of transferring funds to the manager is carried out by buying a manager's cryptocurrency on the internal exchange.

Will there be maximum and minimum limit on money to be invested on any trader's tokens?
There are 7 levels in total, with the first-level manager maximum investments capped at 1 000 USD ( in GVT equivalent) plus a first-level manager must invest 1 000 USD of his own money. For comparison, manager of a maximum trust level can receive investments up to 1 000 000 dollars.

As no one will have a trust history at platform launch, ALL managers will start at trust level 1, right?
Yes, you are right!

Hello everybody!
I did German translation for Genesis.
If you are from Germany feel free to visit.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2243348.0
Thank you for your work! Stakes were credited. We offer you to translate our whitepaper into German. You can inform @mia in telegram channel (DM) about your desigion.

I did not really understand, the presale was cancelled, or their was a preorder for the presale ? I'm quite confused here.
Our pre-sale was based on the option’s sale. Genesis Vision option guarantees the right to acquire GVT tokens at a specified price during the ICO, so you have to pay only 5% on Pre-ICO and the remaining 95% you will have to pay during the ICO. So we have pre-order on $2.3 M

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We hadn't a pre-sale hard cap. Our pre-sale was in form of Options sale. So $2.3M is the equivalent value of GVT, reserved for the ICO stage. A hard cap of ICO is 33.000.000 usd

So, all remaining tokens from pre-sale will be sold on main sale? Right?
Yes, you are right. Bonuses from other types of options will be moved to the ICO:
During the first 3 days of ICO (15.10–17.10) investors will have bonus 20%
The week after (18.10–24.10) bonus 15%
The week after (25.10–31.10) bonus 10%

Well dang. If there is so much demand I guess we do not have to worry about minimum caps and that "flexible funding" would cut features at all. More the opposite, are potential investors going to miss the boat?
We don't think so because we have detailed plan for capturing the market and none miss the boat  Smiley

For what I understood in pre-sale they sold options to be redeemed during ICO not actual tokens. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong genesis.vision
We need to tell more about the essence of the process for investors to understand the further steps better.

Usually, ICO generates overwhelming interest on the first days of launch and during this period token sale transaction number could reach millions within few hours. This giant queue of transactions is sent directly to the Ethereum network, clogging Ethereum blockchain, which causes massive transaction delays and transaction fees to skyrocket, making the network unusable for hours.

In addition, the very time of ICO launch may be inconvenient for the investors – due to the geographical dispersion of investors, participation for many of them maybe complicated by the fact that the launch of ICO falls on a deep night in their timezone.

In overall, early investment bonuses are often given not to actual first supporters, but to those who managed to be the first to carry out a transaction in the blockchain. Implementation of the smart contract-based token option solves all of those problems.

To solve the mentioned problems related to ordinary ICO process Genesis Vision team launched a special option program for ICO participation. This way the company gave the participants’ a guarantee to acquire GVT tokens at a specific price during the core ICO. Options also give some additional bonuses for tokens amount, and can allow early supporters to book their tokens in advance at a price they consider fair.

I dont like the idea to stop a presale!
If transactions are stuck in the blockchain, so be it. If the transaction will go to Genesis Vision after the pre-sale was sold out, they just get there funds back and they can try again during the ICO.

What about the ICO will it be stopped if there is a big backlog? No! So why do it for a presale?
Options are one of the most difficult financial instruments. Not all investors are familiar with it and understand how it works. Considering the feedback from the community, we decided to stop it.

If i have understood correctly, only exchange owners can be brokers and they have to install a software to participate... What's your strategy on attracting these exchanges?
Brokers are companies that have the appropriate licenses to carry out brokerage activities.
Through brokers, traders have access to trading financial instruments on exchange and over-the-counter markets
146  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO] Genesis Vision Bounty campaign on: October 09, 2017, 10:46:17 AM
Is the campaign over?
The Bounty program will be finished at the end of the ICO.

dear manager, joined signature campaign, what is personal text to put ?
You should put signature that is related to your rank and also you can put avatar with logo. For logo please contact us in bounty telegram channel https://t.me/genesisvision_bounty

Hello Bounty Manager,
I've joined Genesis Vision Twitter & Facebook Campaign 2 weeks ago
Is it compulsory to post the RT/RP links in this thread? if not then why my stakes are still '0' in both campaigns
Please check Spreadsheet No 514(Twitter Campaign) and Spreadsheet No 348(Facebook Campaign)
By the terms of participation in Twitter Compaign each participant must be subscribed to Genesis Vision page and make 1 tweet with Genesis Vision hashtag (#GenesisVision)and retweet our tweets at least two times a week. You can receive stakes only implemented both of the terms. Please provide us Facebook reports for two weeks and subscribe on our group. We haven't credit stakes because we haven't seen you subscibtion.

Wow! So, we're posting reports?
I've been tweeting from day one and never posted anything on this thread.
Posting all my links below:

Twitter: https://twitter.com/Bowties32551567
Followers:2858

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Week 6

Tweet
https://twitter.com/Bowties32551567/status/916728351787831296

Retweet
https://twitter.com/genesis_vision/status/916702632768655360
https://twitter.com/genesis_vision/status/916600576305258496
https://twitter.com/genesis_vision/status/916320457762246656
You will receive stake for the 6-th week (because you made a tweet with Genesis Vision hashtag).

Hello . i have something to say
1st : i cant join Genesisvison telegram chanel "there is no account with this username"
2nd : i have over 1000 facebook friends , like+share very much but only got 40 stake ?!?
My Facebook spreadsheet no.281
Link https://www.facebook.com/xeonhp
We bring our apologize. The question is solved and stakes have been credited.

Genesis Vision Arabic announcement is complete: https://bitcoingarden.org/forum/index.php?topic=20061.0
And whitepaper translation is complete now: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwRJcHacpklaeEFOUzdkcmV6alU
Please add Arabic translation links to spreadsheet.
Regards.
Thank you very much! All the stakes for this great job have been already credited. The link with translation will be added soon.

Hello to our Facebook and Twitter bounty program participants! Facebook and Twitter stakes will be distributed in the next 72 hours due to high Facebook reposting activity
Oh I can see a lot of people posting their reports. However, I see that my stakes were updated except for Week 5 - Facebook bounty. ICO is over right so is the bounty?
Our bounty system calculates automatically. There may be an error. Please provide your report with reposts for manual calculations.
147  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Genesis Vision - Decentralized platform for the trust management on: October 07, 2017, 09:56:47 AM
148  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Genesis Vision - Decentralized platform for the trust management on: October 06, 2017, 07:34:58 PM
Is there a risk that the token will be considered a security? meaning if there is no way to use them (alfa, beta,...) it is not a clear utility. From my understanding that is the reason why several ICOs either has postponed sales or did like wanchain (distributed an interimntoken which is not tradeable) until their platform can be launched.
The token can’t be deemed a security - it is simply a tool for powering Ethereum smart contract operation. For some case we are consulting with our lawyers all the time

@genesis.vision, is there a chance that you will show a pre-alpha during ICO ? Most projects this days show a demo/pre-alpha before/during ICO, I think it's important, there a lot of ICOs right now, only trustworthy ones gain popularity/trust
Alpha version will be launched in the first quarter of 2018

history? may be you can make live statistic?
Let me explain. During the reporting period, the manager trades on his or her trading platform with the amount of funds
available at the beginning. The history of its trading is unloaded from the trading platform and recorded in
IPFS in real time.

I think successful traders will be well-known soon so there is no use in live statistics. Will the trader be able to communicate with his supporters?
We will make a featuring list. And it's issues will be realized on demand.

I think that there will be some kind of ranking system and traders will have special channels to communicate with investors and post some updates/spreadseets, etc. Wink
Regarding rancking there are 7 levels in total, with the first-level manager maximum investments capped at 1 000 USD ( in GVT equivalent) plus a first-level manager must invest 1 000 USD of his own money. For comparison, manager of a maximum trust level can receive investments up to 1 000 000 dollars.

After finished Reading the whitepaper I am curious about some of the challenges with etherium that you point out, especially the scaling/performance issues. However as we expect to have them solved in 2-3 years you might run into problems depending on the Projects success. You mention that you have looked at other chains that would be possible to transition to, out of curiosity would you mind telling which chain(s) that would be most probable to transition to?
There are some interesting existing chains to transition to and much more are under development. As far as it hard to predict future of blockchain in half a year we haven't choosen a specific chain to transition to yet.

So when the manager themself can choose the length of the reporting period, can they choose freely or will the platform itself have specific time frames, like 1 week, 2 weeks, etc.? Is there any limitation for managers or could they just say like 8 weeks and then it is like this?
There are will be variants for managers to choose in the platform.

I would like to ask the team to elaborate on which key challenges they will meet to ensure mass market adoption and how they plan to overcome these. Please note that I dont mean the technical challenges as outlined in the whitepaper but rather Incentives models, (broker, manager, Investor)-interest etc. thanks
Genesis vision has a detailed plan for capturing the market. First of all: Tools For Brokers (a company of Genesis Vision co-founder, Alexey Kutsenko) already sells a similar centralized solution that is installed in the environment of a particular broker. This software was purchased by more than eighty different companies around the world. The total turnover of funds through this trust management system amounted to more than $100 billion.

As soon as alpha version of Genesis Vision is launched (1Q 2018) our first goal is to attract these existing clients.
Average investment per month in retail FX market is about 1000 USD(500-2000 depending on the region). According to statistic I have, total traded amount in a month close to 5x times of the deposit, which means 5k USD (traders opens/closes trades, so total turnover will be around 5k USD per 1 investor per month).

Our goal is to link at least 10-15 brokers to the moment of the release, and it should bring us 10,000 – 15,000 investors into our system.
So total expected turnover in first months will be around 50,000,0000 – 75,000,000 USD.

I would like to point out that this turnover already exceeds the GVT capitalization during the ICO, so we expect GVT growth in value.

Are there some star traders you guys plan to bring on the platform while starting up?
Of course we are planning that with starting of the platform a lot of successful managers will begin their work in Genesis Vision. However all the managers will start from a scratch.

True, activity in the thread would be nice, but also some marketing is needed for this. I don't think I've seen any banners or commercials on social media for this project.
Thank you, we will enhance our marketing!

I read that the number of tokens is limited to 44.000.000 and total token sale is 33.000.000. What happens to the rest of the 11.000.000 tokens?
44,000,000 tokens will be created in total, of which 36,960,000 (33,000,000 for sale, 3,960,000-marketing, advisers and bounty) will be distributed to the ICO participants, 2,200,000 will be reserved for a fund and 4,840,000 will be circulated among the team.

I saw that dev wrote that there is not a soft cap.
Did he mean, we hit hard cap or else we will cancel the project.
Or
We are going to make project real regardless of the funds.
The logical thinking is the second one is. But if it was the issue he should have said, we already hit the soft cap. Anybody have any ideas?
Yes, we don't have a soft cap. Even if we don't reach a hard cap we are not killing our project. The budget and components are planned, assuming that our fundraising efforts will reach the estimated maximum amount. Otherwise, a part of the components will have to be abandoned, and the budget will be reduced for the remaining features.

How much will receive investors from his invested money, how much trader and which your comissions? ( I mean in % from profit)  Huh
Each manager will set their comission terms. The profit, received as a result of management of the total funds, is shared proportionally between the managers and investors. Managers receive a commission for management and a commission from the profit (success fee). Investor receive part of the manager's profits,
according to their share, minus the manager's commission and fee.
The project will receive profit from commissions on investment operations. Each investment will be charged 0.5% of the operation amount.

Is this platform available for use by citizens of the United States? What about the ICO, can Americans invest in this platform, or are these considered security tokens?  Huh
The platform will be serving worldwide. If it will be necessary we'll get license for legalization of our activities

Only 2.3 mln for main ICO? Which hard cap for pre-sale and ICO?
We hadn't a pre-sale hard cap. Our pre-sale was in form of Options sale. So $2.3M is the equivalent value of GVT, reserved for the ICO stage. A hard cap of ICO is 33.000.000 usd

What does the use of blockchain technologies or token brings in compareason to others platforms like 1broker ?
Implementation of blockchain will allow trust management market to achieve transparency and efficiency on the technological level. This will help to regain the trust to the market. Besides that, it will attract the attention of new companies and the investors of the new digital generation.

Will all managers start at trust level 1, that is with a maximum investment pool of 1,000$ worth of GVT, when the platform will be launched?
Level 1 managers are required to have at least 1 000 USD in GVT equivalent of their own funds on the platform and their maximum investment pool can be only 1 000 USD worth of GVT.
149  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO] Genesis Vision Bounty campaign on: October 06, 2017, 03:36:07 PM
Hello to our Facebook and Twitter bounty program participants! Facebook and Twitter stakes will be distributed in the next 72 hours due to high Facebook reposting activity
150  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO] Genesis Vision Bounty campaign on: October 06, 2017, 03:32:13 PM
I wonder if it is so difficult to insert the links to social networks in the first post of THIS THREAD... Roll Eyes
We appreciate your observation. The links will be added to the first post shortly  Smiley

I want to do a blog review on my blog http://bitbillions.net/ and also join the other campaigns. Believe it or not I found this form my Dad who wants to invest in this project. I got him now into crypto and he found it and wanted to get in the presale but it's over so we will also invest in the ICO. BTW Will you be at the Limassol Blockchain event in November? I live just down the road from ST Raphael Hotel in Agios Tychonas and am seriously thinking of coming to the event.  Smiley. I also do videos in ENGLISH on my Youtube and my Hubby Qiman does videos in Chinese so can  go ahead and star ton these tomorrow? Should I join both slack and telegram first?  Smiley
Our team has busy schedule so we can't say yet wether we go to Limassol Blockchain or not. But thank you for information and invitation. Share your videos' links to our community in telegram channel https://t.me/genesisvision. Don't forget to register your videos/blogs to Blog Posts Campaign and we will surely watch your vidoe blogs. Unfortunatelly the slack channel is not operational.
We wish you good luck in your blog Smiley

dear sir in week 2  : counted at 30 september why i can make steake sir thanks very much
no of spread : 370
thanks very much
Please enclose your report with links to your posts so we could check everything

Can't join telegram, your invitation link is broken. Please create another invitation link.
Please tell us where you have found the broken link. We must change it. Try this invitation link out https://t.me/genesisvision

Is the bounty company still operational?
Our bounty company lasts till the end of the ICO
151  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Genesis Vision - Decentralized platform for the trust management on: October 05, 2017, 04:13:26 PM
Great Writing, explains the concept outlined in the wp in a more dense way.
Can you describe the way on how a manager transitions between the different levels e.g. criterias that needs to be fulfilled in order to manage larger funds?
In the current concept we have some kind of levels system. The amount of investments you could possibly attract depends solely on your manager's level.
The algorithm of the level increase will be unburdensome enough for manager to grow up really quickly if somebody buys his tokens and he makes some profit.
The idea of this levels is not to make the manager's life miserable and oblige them to grind these levels. It's more of a protection for investors for the first manager's trading period while he doesn't have any verified statistics.
Managers have different trust levels that define maximum investments a manager can get. There are 7 levels in total, with the first-level manager maximum investments capped at 1 000 USD ( in GVT equivalent) plus a first-level manager must invest 1 000 USD of his own money. For comparison, manager of a maximum trust level can receive investments up to 1 000 000 dollars.
A manager will be able to trade only cryptocurrencies? If yes I can see many cryptotraders join as managers to take advantage of this. Right now they only give advice on paid telegram groups
Manager will be able to trade any assets.
Great Writing, explains the concept outlined in the wp in a more dense way.
Can you describe the way on how a manager transitions between the different levels e.g. criterias that needs to be fulfilled in order to manage larger funds?
Good explanation of the project and easily understanding the complex things. The pre sale is running, does anyone know how much sold exactly.?
Pre-sale is finished! GVT for $2.3M was reserved for the ICO!
Its awesome that you took time and explained the mechanics of the project since at first its a little hard to understand.
But do you really expect that many trades will be done with fiat since the project is based on blockchain?
Fiat markets capitalization is significantly higher than crypto, we are sure that many trades will be done with fiat.
Just saw that the presale was ongoing, what are the funds raised for the moment ?
GVT for $2.3M was reserved for the ICO.
how this option program work to purchase token?
Genesis Vision option guarantees the right to acquire GVT tokens at a specified price during the ICO, so you have to pay only 5% on Pre-ICO and the remaining 95% you will have to pay during the ICO. Options will also give additional bonuses for tokens’ amount.
Currently, options program is finished!
Just saw that the presale was ongoing, what are the funds raised for the moment ?
Looks like they have removed the numeric counter. I think it is roughly 1.5musd options sold. They warrant a 20x the option investment opportunity at buyin when mainsale starts not including the additional bonus.
Is this the first time an ICO sells options? And can those options on GVT be traded like options on traditional stocks? This could pose an interesting new development in ICO land.
Yes, Options program was for the first time ever! We believe that one day it may become a common practice, taking into account all benefits it can provide.
Technically, options can be traded like options on traditional stocksб but we didn't place them on exchanges, since we used them for other purposes.
When do you plan to release the alpha and beta versions? I see the road map full of events until 2020. This project on longevity.
Alpha version will be launched in the first quarter of 2018. Beta version will be launch in the third quarter of 2018.
Can you tell me? Investors will have open statistic for trading their funds 24/7 ?
Yes, investors will have open statistic. All managers’ trades will be automatically verified, uploaded, and recorded in a smart contract, building a
trustworthy trading history and statistics.
When you will send your founds to the manager, will they be locked for some period of time or you will be able to trade it back and forth?
I image it will depend on the manager how he will decide to run the fund?
When investors purchase coins, GVTs are transferred to a broker's account, where they are converted to required currency and transferred to a manager's trading account. Coin holders receive part of the manager's profits, according to their share, minus the manager's commission and fee. The investor has the right to transfer coins or sell on the internal exchange.
The investor can withdraw invested money, but only at the end of the reporting period, having previously created an application for withdrawal. In the case of returns, the investor receives the money according to his or her share, and the coins are returned to the manager for further sale on the internal exchange.
Managers themselves choose the length of the reporting period, according to their trading strategies.

152  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO] Genesis Vision Bounty campaign on: October 05, 2017, 10:09:16 AM
Hi, manager!
I've found that I have 0 stakes for my FB and Tw activities for 3 weeks of participation. Why? I don't post reports with reposts/retweets in this thread because there is no such requirement on the first page. So, what should I do now? Forget about your campaign and my reward? It is very difficult now to get all the liks fm FB and Tw to prove.
Hi! There might be a mistake, please post your Facebook nickname here or DM me, we will double-check and correct if there are any mistakes!
FB link - https://www.facebook.com/kiselev.evgen
Tw link - https://twitter.com/mr_McKska
So, what about my question?
Hello!
An error has occurred in the spreadsheet. It becomes the reason you haven't received your stakes. All stakes were credited! Stakes for FB were credited for the whole period. We bring our apologies for the inconvenience!
Hi! Great thanks for your reply and cooperation. I continue my work.
Hello! I've found now that I have only 300 stakes in FB spreadsheet for last week. But I joined FB campaign on September 2nd and have made approximately 70-80 reposts fm GenesisVision page since that date according to my data. So, it should be at least 3500 stakes totally. My number in FB spreadsheet is 36. So, how can we solve this problem?

Hello! It should be 3000. Corrected. We bring our apologies for the inconvenience!

Hi! Stakes were credited! We bring our apologies for the inconvenience!

When does the ICO end? Is there still room for me to participate for other bounty campaigns?

ICO will last until  15 November. Sure, you can participate in Bounty program until  the ICO end.
153  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Genesis Vision - Decentralized platform for the trust management on: October 04, 2017, 06:35:08 PM
New Medium article was published. Read here: https://medium.com/@GenesisVision/exchange-of-managers-cryptocurrency-284a3aec6d34
154  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Genesis Vision - Decentralized platform for the trust management on: October 04, 2017, 06:03:38 PM
Hello all !not sure if this has already be discussed but does anyone have the same problem as me which is that the ETH payment button is not visible at all. I saw from the "how to invest tutorial" there should be and ETH payment option/button, Thanks
We bring to your attention that today payments in ETH are processed with delay. Deposits through ETH was temporarily stopped. We will inform you as soon as it is available!
From what I have read, this is a closed system, inside of which coins managers. And what will it be like - conventional individual signs, and all different? That is, they will not be tokens of the ether. And how to control their number is unclear.
Also in chapter 6.3 Managers' Coins you write:
"The investor can withdraw the invested money, but only at the end of the reporting period."
and ibid:
"Instead, the user buys "tangible" coins that are displayed in his or her personal cabinet and can be cashed at any time."
I understand that we mean the withdrawal from the system of fiat money in both cases, well, or btc, eth. So explain why there is a contradiction? How can an investor dispose of his funds with respect to withdrawals from your system?
Money supple GVT is concluded in a smart contract. And how to control coins of managers? How much will be released?
GVT will be managed by ICO smart contract. Managers tokens will be managed by Genesis Vision Platform smart contact.
155  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Genesis Vision - Decentralized platform for the trust management on: October 04, 2017, 05:44:44 PM
is it like icn?
Unlike other blockchain projects connected with trust management (like Iconomi, that you mentioned), we don’t limit our target audience with the crypto world only. Our first goal is to bring the transparency and stability to the traditional financial markets such as forex, stock markets, hedge funds and so forth.
another social trading platform, right? or some one can explain with simple definition for this program? i didn't understand.
Genesis Vision is not exactly a platform for social trading, but a decentralized platform for trust management.  In fact, it is a core of trust management process, which unites already existing and operating exchanges, brokers, traders and investors.
Do you have a video review? Tell us about your partners, if they don't exist then when are you planning?
The most detailed video review for now you can find here: https://youtu.be/0rUTSbsZtHM
Our partners include more than 400 companies, which are clients of Tools For Brokers, a company of Genesis Vision co-founder, Alexey Kutsenko.
Apart from that, our advisory board is formed by owners of Divisa Capital, Genova Global Hedge Fund, Changelly, Lykke which are our partners as well.
I just saw this project.
Am i understanding it correctly?
It's a platform for professional traders. We will look and see their success ratio and put our money to trader to make his trades for us or just copy his trades.Like 1broker's function?
And every professional trader would have his own coin.

Hi! Not exactly - the platform will allow all people to manage investments, however, some check are implemented to insure investors interests. But the main mechanism is that, indeed, all investors will be able to see the most successful traders and invest with them by buying their token.
1broker, Etoro and Zulutrade are all centralized platforms, but only Genesis Vision can be genuinely honest and transparent, every piece of info on the platform can be checked and verified.
Invest with them by buying their tokens? I don't quite understand what it means. Could you please elaborate a bit on why would investors will buy trader's tokens? Why not just buy whatever a top rated trader is buying.
The profit of each manager is shared between hit tokens’ holders. The amount of tokens of each particular manager is limited.
You can’t just copy trades of top manager since his trading history is not published in real time due to the manager’s strategy protection
Why is it called Genesis Vision? From the name I would not expect it has anything to do with financial markets. Then again with BlackRock or Vanguard are not that descriptive either.
Can someone from the team say anything about how that name came to be? I am guessing genesis = blockchain, vision = transparency.
Hi! With this project name, we won the HackRussia, all-Russian hackathon in the nomination “Finance and Blockchain”. At that time we did not have a clear vision our actions, but we needed a universal name. And we found our vision:)
In which country is your project registered? Will you expand the team? How many devs do you have?
Hi! Genesis Vision company established in Ireland. Sure we will expand our team! The core team you can find on the sitehttps://genesis.vision/
Some great answers Smiley
You guys won the HackRussia! Congrats Smiley So this name is already wellknown Smiley
And Ireland... beautiful country and never participated in an ICO from Ireland! So this will my first
Thanks for answering all the questions about the project! Great work
I'm surprised they're not registered in a tax heaven like Singapore or Switzerland like a lot of ICO's are. hopefully that won't impede the development of the project.
Ireland is very Loyal for ICO, what confirmed by Deloitte analyze. We have no legal risks based on upcoming regulation or restrictions of ICOs
So if I understand correctly. The genesis vision idea started at the hackrussia hackathon? And you guys won in the category fintech/blockchain? Or am I misreading this information?
Yes, you got it correctly. Ruslan Kamenskiy and Dmitry Nazarov won the HackRussia hackathon with the concept of Genesis Vision platform.
Why is it called Genesis Vision? From the name I would not expect it has anything to do with financial markets. Then again with BlackRock or Vanguard are not that descriptive either.
Can someone from the team say anything about how that name came to be? I am guessing genesis = blockchain, vision = transparency.
Hi! With this project name, we won the HackRussia, all-Russian hackathon in the nomination “Finance and Blockchain”. At that time we did not have a clear vision our actions, but we needed a universal name. And we found our vision:)
In which country is your project registered? Will you expand the team? How many devs do you have?
Hi! Genesis Vision company established in Ireland. Sure we will expand our team! The core team you can find on the sitehttps://genesis.vision/
Some great answers Smiley
You guys won the HackRussia! Congrats Smiley So this name is already wellknown Smiley
And Ireland... beautiful country and never participated in an ICO from Ireland! So this will my first
Thanks for answering all the questions about the project! Great work
I'm surprised they're not registered in a tax heaven like Singapore or Switzerland like a lot of ICO's are. hopefully that won't impede the development of the project.
Where their registered? In which country registered theiir company? I seen, that team from Russia..
PS - Singapore also firbidden ICO as I know...
Genesis Vision company established in Ireland Smiley
I just saw this project.
Am i understanding it correctly?
It's a platform for professional traders. We will look and see their success ratio and put our money to trader to make his trades for us or just copy his trades.Like 1broker's function?
And every professional trader would have his own coin.
Hi! Not exactly - the platform will allow all people to manage investments, however, some check are implemented to insure investors interests. But the main mechanism is that, indeed, all investors will be able to see the most successful traders and invest with them by buying their token.
1broker, Etoro and Zulutrade are all centralized platforms, but only Genesis Vision can be genuinely honest and transparent, every piece of info on the platform can be checked and verified.
Invest with them by buying their tokens? I don't quite understand what it means. Could you please elaborate a bit on why would investors will buy trader's tokens? Why not just buy whatever a top rated trader is buying.
Correct me if im wrong, as i understand it now. If we buy the token, we are basicly buying a part of the investors portfolio? And investor will have more money to invest. So its like a staking thing, where u buy his token, he has more money in portfolio and you get a piece of that portfolio. So if the investor does well, your token is worth more.
That means Genesis token holders will get profit from each profitable trade?
No, there are two types of tokens on Genesis Vision platform:
1) GVT is internal currency of our platform; it is used for all investment operations and profit distributions. It exists mainly to unlink the currency of investor with the trading asset of manager and make it unified. GVT will be freely traded on external cryptocurrency exchanges.
2)Manager’s token is the instrument for attracting investments for this particular manager. These tokens are “internal”, they can be bought from manager and afterwards can be freely traded on internal Genesis Vision exchange. Holders of manager’s tokens will receive the share of manager’s profit at the end of each reporting period.
Can anyone from the team please communicate when we can expect a final version of the whitepaper? (as it is currently in draft status) thanks
I would describe current version of whitepaper as “very stable”. We haven’t done any changes to it for almost 1 month. So the concept is pretty much finalized and won’t have any significant changes.
Hello, what are the main competitors for this project ?
I don't know much about trust management.
We can name social trading platforms (like Etoro and Zulutrade) as our competitors, even though they are not related to the blockchain technology.
Still not sure about that. I'm trying to summarise the things in my head.

If a manager has a token and he is doing well, the token price will rise cause everybody wants a piece of the portfolio.

So token will be created by a manager and he will sell them to investors. For example, He made 100.000 tokens and sold 50.000 of it. So he has %50 of his portfolio and market has %50.

If it is true then, Portfolio value = his start-up money + investments?

And if he is good and makes a profit 100.000$. Will he take 50.000 and investors got 50.000? 

If he lost nearly all of it, no money to divide and 0 token value.
Almost correct, except the fact that the part of manager’s portfolio is not connected to his tokens. His part of portfolio is his own funds on his trading account.
So in your example, manager should have $50k of his own funds, to share the profit 50/50 with his investors, who bought $50k worth of his tokens.
Hi all.
I have invest some ETH in the PRE- ICO one hour ago and It doesn't show the transaction in the transaction history yet.
Is it that normal?
Yes,today, payments in ETH were processed with delay.ETH transactions in queue were processed.
Has your transaction been confirmed?
Hello, what are the main competitors for this project ?
I don't know much about trust management.
I thing that there will be competing with other trusts management companies and maybe even with investments funds. Probably their biggest competitor will be BlackMoon
No, Blackmoon are not our competitors.At first glance, our projects are similar as both of them are aimed at the asset management market. But the fundamental difference is that the Blackmoon builds its own assets management Funds. The number of these Funds is limited, and each of them has a company-like structure and executes its own specific fund management strategy.
Unlike the Blackmoon, we are aimed to the private trust management sector with already existing money managers and Funds. We unite already operating brokers and money managers from Forex, Stock markets, hedge Funds, crypto asset managers and so forth.
We don’t change the way of trading for our managers; we don’t control their strategies. We only unite all of them in a single decentralized network and make the process of investment and profit distribution transparent and stable. Additionally, we provide the instrument to check the statistics of each particular manager since our investors should be confident that all profits are real.
Hello, what are the main competitors for this project ?
I don't know much about trust management.
I thing that there will be competing with other trusts management companies and maybe even with investments funds. Probably their biggest competitor will be BlackMoon
Maybe Taas? they're a crypto investment fund as well and seem to be doing fine so far.
Taas is an investment fund. We don't make investments or manage any funds.We only unite all of them in a single decentralized network and make the process of investment and profit distribution transparent and stable.
Hello to everybody!
Spontaneously decided to participate in your company's bounty. Do you plan to localize your topic?
Yes! The languages needed are:
will there be any burning of tokens that are not sold?
Indeed, all the unsold tokens will be burned.
is the german translation already reserved? i would really like to do that
Glad you join us!German translation is not reserved! Fill the form for participation here:https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeIrhe_B4OZPowfnWjL4rd1astUiOM5p_UmttzHnbXrIsZhMA/viewform
Pre-ICO is going on currently with min 5 USD. is there max limit? How much already raised?
We have raised more than $1.5M pre-order!647,055 GVOT30 left.As soon as all 30% options are sold, the option sale will be stopped.
another social trading platform, right? or some one can explain with simple definition for this program? i didn't understand.
Well I wouldn't say theses funds suck like hell, but they could be better of course.
So if the platform is open for everyone as long as the traders are professional, you could technical also build up an fund there?
5% GVT will form the Genesis Vision fund. Tokens from this fund will be regularly invested in successful platform managers. We plan to keep the fund operating regardless of the profit it generates, constantly stimulating Genesis Vision managers’ activity.
Pre-sale is going good!
Already a lot of money collected! Very nice!
Now its the time to buy because of the 30% bonus!
Great work guys
It's going nicely indeed.
1.5m USD is a good amount of money for every project.
What was the soft cap by the way?
We do not have any soft cap.
nice. is US allowed to participate?
Unfortunately, the sale is not open to US citizens. Crowdsale participants must digitally sign a statement that they are not a US citizens.
Pre-sale is going good!
Already a lot of money collected! Very nice!
Now its the time to buy because of the 30% bonus!
Great work guys
It's going nicely indeed.
1.5m USD is a good amount of money for every project.
What was the soft cap by the way?
I am bit confused right now, is there a soft cap for this "pre-sale"? You are buying now tokens with 30% bonus, but you just have to pay 5% now and later you pay the rest during the ICO, did I got it right?
Yes, you are right. Option guarantees the right to acquire GVT tokens at a specified price during the ICO, so you have to pay only 5% on Pre-ICO and the remaining 95% you will have to pay during the ICO.Options will give a bonuses for tokens’ amount - 30%. 
As soon as all 30% options are sold, the option sale will be stopped. We have less than 40% of GVOT30 left.
156  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO] Genesis Vision Bounty campaign on: October 04, 2017, 03:04:12 PM
hello.

i have more than 1000 friends at facebook. now. 1050 friends

can you change my facebook rank.

https://www.facebook.com/yediyirmidort.alkol

Thank you! Confirmed.
157  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO] Genesis Vision Bounty campaign on: October 04, 2017, 12:52:56 PM
Hello.
Please tell me if there is a translation into Russian?
And yet, reports on twitter and facebook need to be published in this topic, as some do.

Hello!

Unfortunately, there is no Russian version.
Twitter and Facebook reports are not required. Sometimes we ask for a report to confirm calculations.
158  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO] Genesis Vision Bounty campaign on: October 04, 2017, 12:49:40 PM
Hey!
I think there is something wrong with signature's logo part.
I've added the signature provided in the main post.
Please check this.

Hello!

Thank you for your comment. We will fix it!
159  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO] Genesis Vision Bounty campaign on: October 04, 2017, 11:21:53 AM
dear dev me report my adress eth
no of list in sphreadseed: 41
slack username: anounimus
 i want to join blog : https://medium.com/@gilangramadhan_2249/genesis-vision-ico-8d9de6f980db
sory I enter my eth address two :
0x803e560c6A6c848d74AD364242aA52107b985db6 0x803e560c6A6c848d74AD364242aA52107b985db6 
cant you help me but replace it with one address eth this is  :
0x803e560c6A6c848d74AD364242aA52107b985db6
thanks
reganst
pliss respont my complain sir


Hello!

After the ICO is finished, tokens will be distributed among stake. Participants who request to make the change will have to provide data confirmation. We will provide instructions for it towards the end of the Bounty program.
160  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO] Genesis Vision Bounty campaign on: October 04, 2017, 11:15:47 AM
GENESIS VISION

Please Sir am begging for a change of ETH address because my ether wallet have been compromised and am losing all my effort,please help me save my effort by changing my wallet address.

My bitcointalk profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1030507

https://twitter.com/aselewilson

https://facebook.com/aselekeuphel.wilson.71

Twitter spread sheet number:171

Facebook spread sheet number:170

0xBE662f22c7e8a840974B5a37ABD01d82F23Cb76A

Thanks for helping

Hello!


After the ICO is finished, tokens will be distributed among stake. Participants who request to make the change will have to provide data confirmation. We will provide instructions for it towards the end of the Bounty program.
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