Wow. Glad I woke up. Looks like we're going to test 0.001225 again, probably rebound @ 0.001. If we fall through 0.001 then I suggest everyone gets their buy orders in above 0.00075, anything lower than that is crazy.
I agree that it's trying to retest. At first glance there is about 100btc of buy support between 12 and 125. Yea. Problem is I don't think even if we rebound off of 0.0012 range we will last that long, I think we will keep retesting it until we break through. And It is only 100BTC. I've got 80k coins left that might have to go, will prob then rebuy @ 0.001. Lets wait for this bull trap to finish then ill decide |
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Wow. Glad I woke up. Looks like we're going to test 0.001225 again, probably rebound @ 0.001. If we fall through 0.001 then I suggest everyone gets their buy orders in above 0.00075, anything lower than that is crazy.
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Scary 30m chart. I'm off to bed. Got a funny feeling some crazy shits gonna happen while I'm asleep
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Now that's trying to manipulate the market.  http://imgur.com/mD491ETSomeone simulating a small crash by making sell order after sell order. The only issue is they where stupid enough to do each of the orders nearly exactly 7 seconds apart. Mikemikemike, given that the wedge broke downward, what's your short term outlook at the moment? Not happy. That's my short term outlook. Seriously though, I'm not too sure. My feel for the market kinda went out of wack today, apart from buying in @ 0.00145. Another crash soon seems more likely than not, but im definitely not selling now. I'm gonna wait for the update later to make any moves. Knowing there's going to be news today kinda throws all reasonable analysis out the window. Lets see what's the news is and how the next few hours progress, a few large orders over the last hour have kinda thrown the recovery out of wack. Gonna hold my breath and see what happens, not really sure either way. Gonna be an interesting few hours that I'm sure of |
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Now that's trying to manipulate the market. http://imgur.com/mD491ETSomeone simulating a small crash by making sell order after sell order. The only issue is they where stupid enough to do each of the orders nearly exactly 7 seconds apart. |
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The price of the coin, and the success of the developers project hinges largely on the confidence of the large bag holders, which is in turn built on the developers communication and product. It is as simple as that.
Your argument is based on the above and you couldn't be more incorrect.
Large bag holder have had a freeride to making allot of money, that's where their involvement ends. if they want to dump their coins that's not going to kill this project, people like me, and there are allot of us, will happily pick up those coins at a cheap price because of the foundations behind this project. It's completely self righteous that you believe you contribute to this project anymore than making money from speculation.
Anyways, Dump your coins, let every large bag holder dump their coins and see if it affects the progress of this project at all. It won't. The technology and the team are what dictates the value of this project, not large holders. If every large bagholder dumped their coins the price would crash, but new speculators would pick up those coins near immediately, and over the longterm the price will recover probably stronger than before, because the value is stored in the technology, and people will happily buy through that sell pressure because we appreciate the true value of this project, not what some early adopter thinks the price should be. Welcome to a free market economy. if you want to sell your coins cheap, trust me, there are hundreds of people just like me who willl buy them off you and restore the price, People who don't need constant validation from the developers that they speculated on a good project.
Honestly, Arguing that large holders of this coin play into the sucess of this project is insulting to the developers who have spent actual time building this project. I'm taking a break. Be greatful you've had a free ride, stop assuming the developers should run to support the price just to protect your free ride, you've done zero to contribute to this project, and you can't affect the price long term fullstop.
I'm sorry if this sounds personal, but stating you contribute to the success and the ultimate valuation of this project fullstop is beyond insulting to those who have actually put time into developing this project, and those who understand the basis of a free market economy.
Your thought is that lack of confidence created by price swings only affect short term price and that long term the quality of the product will see the price rise back to where it should be. I wish I agreed with you. I have spent 25 years as a project manager in a development environment (games), and seen many a good project fail not because of the quality of the product but because of a loss of confidence. Sometimes if a price falls far enough the loss of confidence in the price, not the product stops it retracing. Maybe I'm just a little jaded. Unfortunately it is absolutley true that the market contributes to the success and ultimate valuation of a product, and the market is the people who hold the coins. the more coins someone holds the more influence they have on the market. You only have to watch the daily whale manipulation of bitcoin to see that. I am totally grateful for my free ride, and it is just that. I've never claimed otherwise but, I also think that my statement of the symbiotic relationship between the developer and the holders of the coin stands true, maybe they did nothing to deserve it. Happy to accept that, but their stake in the project is still there. Anyway I think you totally misunderstand my intent. I have stated enough times now I have no intention of dumping my coins, I think its a great project with loads of potential, but not without potential pitfalls. Why would I dump when I want it to succeed? I want market confidence not fear. This all stemmed from the fact that there are certain people in this community that call any difficult question or probing of the coin fud. This is not, in my mind a way to success. Software based projects improve and get better from the difficult questions and tests, that's how the problems are found and solved. As a community we should be able to spot the difference between trolling and important questions, just because you may not like it doesn't make it 'fud'. We are the perfect focus group and testers, it should be embraced and made the most of, not pushed aside and, to ATCSecures massive credit, he has not shied away from testing the coin in public. That should be massively applauded. Somehow all this has stemmed from the fact that I wish the loljosh thing had been more clearly resolved sooner before it became a big deal. No idea how. I am not looking for argument or conflict here, just stating some thoughts I have. I know you disagree, that's cool, there is no definitive truth in my opinion or your opinion, just a subjective assimilation of the information available to us. You will note, even though I disagree with you, I have never said your opinions are bullshit or said anything personal about you. I would appreciate the same respect in return  Sorry. It's been a heated morning outside of the bitcoin world. You are correct. And your opinion is completely valid. I do apologises. You are right, without some sort of confidence in the technology it is possible the adoption could stagnate, but unlike computer games, where sales usually rely heavily on marketing and positive reception, the sucess of this project relys allot more heavily on the useable application if the technology, and allot less by its appearance. To make an annalogy, While arts can be interpreted differently, technologies are extremely black and white. It's easy to manipulate an art into being unwanted, but to do that with a technology such a cryptocurrency, it is extremely hard. It's because the foundations cannot be interpreted differently, while games can. And I do agree the loljosh situation could have been handled differently, but for people to assume that ATCSecure hasn't had to outsource something seems rather crazy to me, and to assume he should stop developing to ease the mind of speculators to me seems absurd. This is his project, in my professional opinion, he has absolutely zero responsibility to explain his actions, I think the software he develops is the only right we have to judge him on. Anyways, going back, I think the main argument I'm trying to make is it is very hard to distort the true value of a pure technology, even if everyone sold the value would still be realised at some date because technical specifications leave extremely little room to interpret. Once again, I am sorry. I shouldn't bring my personal emotions into a serious discussion. |
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Seriously no one can explain to me why XC dev gave bitcoin to loljosh?
You know why. You know why when there is 12 minute block times. Seriously, ATCSecure hired him to do some of the leg work. It would make sense that arguably the best dev in the alt currency world wouldn't want to waste his time building the base when he needs to focus on the much more technical stuff. No doubt he has vetted it all and it's all fine. Now he's focusing on making this the most anonymous cryptocurrency. Nothing shows fear more than bashing the competition. Please, for the love of god, look at his CV. If you think someone like that lets loljosh near anything apart from the basics you have no idea how these people think. You don't get to where he has by paying other people to do the advanced stuff, you build that yourself. When you guys have world firsts in technology development and worked for companies such as IBM, come discredit his way of doing things then. loljosh's code underpins the entire coin - would you try and put a ferrari engine in a shitbox. No because the chassis, brakes, suspension would not be able to cope. You want quality - you start with quality. Doesnt matter what whiz bang features the dev promises. Bullshit. When you've worked in a string of Fortune 500 companies you'd understand. Aslong as the basics are there, people don't waste there time on shit like that, it's not worth their time. Loljosh's coding skills are excellent, and have been proven many and many times over. Arguing his coding is shit is absolute crap. Gotta hand it to you Mike, you do make sense Well I've been fortunate enough to work with people with CV's like ATCSecure's and trust me, you don't fucking argue with how they do things. People like that are the sort that build magic that revolutionises industries, you give them space and let them do what they do best. You start pegging them down with useless bullshit like building base code and your wasting their talent. I understand your point and you are right about the hierarchy that is needed to be innovative and the fastest but the way you are going leads to an ensuing loss of power of judgement for the people following the dev and for new investors. As you have been around in cryptoworld for quite some time i guess you should know better about the transparency needs of every new coin coming up. It s essential no matter what genius created it. Fuck transparency. Seriously. Who are we to argue about the details? Until anyone here knows even one tenth of what a person like that knows, they sit back and relax, and enjoy the fact people like this are working on a project like this. You name one other Dev in the crypto world apart from statoshi himself who has the credentials he does? You don't argue, you don't bicker, you sit back and relax. I couldn't care what he's done, all I look at is the results he is producing, and time after time he has delivered. In less than a month he has done what took darkcoin five, and trust me, in a months time this crypto will look nothing like the rest. Sit back and relax. You don't argue with your CEO and you definitely don't need to know what he's doing when he produces results after results. who are we to argue about the details? The investors who spent money to allow the coin to grow, that's who. That's your problem. You think you are an investor. Your not. Seriously, you need to get off your high horse. Your not an investor anymore than me buying EURO's gives me a say in what goes on European Parliament. You make some fair points, although in a pretty unnecessarily aggressive manner. However you miss something important. The value of a coin is based on market confidence, market confidence generates buy orders, market fear generates sell orders, and these affect the value of the coin. Owning coins is more akin to owning shares than buying Euros, as someone who owns a lot of coins you are similar to a major shareholder. When the major shareholders get nervous they unload their investment and the price tanks. The actions of the board (see dev) are a lot to do with what instills confidence in the market. I am sitting back, I am relaxed, I haven't unloaded anything other than a small amount of my XC and I don't intend to.. but the attitude of who are we to ask questions of the dev is not one I support, questions will be asked and the answers, or lack of, will affect market confidence. I think ATCSecure has done a great job on the whole, and no one is perfect. I do wish he had been able to put this one to bed a long time ago though. The reason I am aggressive is because seriously, you have a hundred kids here who have probably never worked a real job in their entire lives, still live with their parents, and they are arguing that someone who is extremely accomplished should answer to them just because they speculated on a project if his. Anyways, you seem to think your an investor? Your not, no one here is. Until an IPO is launched, we are all speculators riding a project he is creating. So the whole boardroom argument goes out the window. We don't pay his wages, we don't own a share in a holding company he is employed by, no money was raised to fund this project, he is working for free. And as such, we are not investors anymore than me buying EURO's give me a say in what happens in European Parliament. Anyways, If we want to speculate on the success of that project that is our right, but thinking this has any relation to the real world business hierarchy is beyond nieve. We are not investors, we are speculators. As I said before, until we pay him personally, or buy a share in a holding company that owns the rights to his development, we have zero rights, and people need to seriously start respecting that. I frankly am tired of all this shit, I'm not saying your one of those kids, but they are everywhere. BTT has turned into an absolute joke The price of the coin, and the success of the developers project hinges largely on the confidence of the large bag holders, which is in turn built on the developers communication and product. It is as simple as that. Your argument is based on the above and you couldn't be more incorrect. Large bag holder have had a freeride to making allot of money, that's where their involvement ends. if they want to dump their coins that's not going to kill this project, people like me, and there are allot of us, will happily pick up those coins at a cheap price because of the foundations behind this project. It's completely self righteous that you believe you contribute to this project anymore than making money from speculation. Anyways, Dump your coins, let every large bag holder dump their coins and see if it affects the progress of this project at all. It won't. The technology and the team are what dictates the value of this project, not large holders. If every large bagholder dumped their coins the price would crash, but new speculators would pick up those coins near immediately, and over the longterm the price will recover probably stronger than before, because the value is stored in the technology, and people will happily buy through that sell pressure because we appreciate the true value of this project, not what some early adopter thinks the price should be. Welcome to a free market economy. if you want to sell your coins cheap, trust me, there are hundreds of people just like me who willl buy them off you and restore the price, People who don't need constant validation from the developers that they speculated on a good project. Honestly, Arguing that large holders of this coin play into the sucess of this project is insulting to the developers who have spent actual time building this project. I'm taking a break. Be greatful you've had a free ride, stop assuming the developers should run to support the price just to protect your free ride, you've done zero to contribute to this project, and you can't affect the price long term fullstop. I'm sorry if this sounds personal, but stating you contribute to the success and the ultimate valuation of this project fullstop is beyond insulting to those who have actually put time into developing this project, and those who understand the basis of a free market economy. |
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Seriously no one can explain to me why XC dev gave bitcoin to loljosh?
You know why. You know why when there is 12 minute block times. Seriously, ATCSecure hired him to do some of the leg work. It would make sense that arguably the best dev in the alt currency world wouldn't want to waste his time building the base when he needs to focus on the much more technical stuff. No doubt he has vetted it all and it's all fine. Now he's focusing on making this the most anonymous cryptocurrency. Nothing shows fear more than bashing the competition. Please, for the love of god, look at his CV. If you think someone like that lets loljosh near anything apart from the basics you have no idea how these people think. You don't get to where he has by paying other people to do the advanced stuff, you build that yourself. When you guys have world firsts in technology development and worked for companies such as IBM, come discredit his way of doing things then. loljosh's code underpins the entire coin - would you try and put a ferrari engine in a shitbox. No because the chassis, brakes, suspension would not be able to cope. You want quality - you start with quality. Doesnt matter what whiz bang features the dev promises. Bullshit. When you've worked in a string of Fortune 500 companies you'd understand. Aslong as the basics are there, people don't waste there time on shit like that, it's not worth their time. Loljosh's coding skills are excellent, and have been proven many and many times over. Arguing his coding is shit is absolute crap. Gotta hand it to you Mike, you do make sense Well I've been fortunate enough to work with people with CV's like ATCSecure's and trust me, you don't fucking argue with how they do things. People like that are the sort that build magic that revolutionises industries, you give them space and let them do what they do best. You start pegging them down with useless bullshit like building base code and your wasting their talent. I understand your point and you are right about the hierarchy that is needed to be innovative and the fastest but the way you are going leads to an ensuing loss of power of judgement for the people following the dev and for new investors. As you have been around in cryptoworld for quite some time i guess you should know better about the transparency needs of every new coin coming up. It s essential no matter what genius created it. Fuck transparency. Seriously. Who are we to argue about the details? Until anyone here knows even one tenth of what a person like that knows, they sit back and relax, and enjoy the fact people like this are working on a project like this. You name one other Dev in the crypto world apart from statoshi himself who has the credentials he does? You don't argue, you don't bicker, you sit back and relax. I couldn't care what he's done, all I look at is the results he is producing, and time after time he has delivered. In less than a month he has done what took darkcoin five, and trust me, in a months time this crypto will look nothing like the rest. Sit back and relax. You don't argue with your CEO and you definitely don't need to know what he's doing when he produces results after results. who are we to argue about the details? The investors who spent money to allow the coin to grow, that's who. That's your problem. You think you are an investor. Your not. Seriously, you need to get off your high horse. Your not an investor anymore than me buying EURO's gives me a say in what goes on European Parliament. You make some fair points, although in a pretty unnecessarily aggressive manner. However you miss something important. The value of a coin is based on market confidence, market confidence generates buy orders, market fear generates sell orders, and these affect the value of the coin. Owning coins is more akin to owning shares than buying Euros, as someone who owns a lot of coins you are similar to a major shareholder. When the major shareholders get nervous they unload their investment and the price tanks. The actions of the board (see dev) are a lot to do with what instills confidence in the market. I am sitting back, I am relaxed, I haven't unloaded anything other than a small amount of my XC and I don't intend to.. but the attitude of who are we to ask questions of the dev is not one I support, questions will be asked and the answers, or lack of, will affect market confidence. I think ATCSecure has done a great job on the whole, and no one is perfect. I do wish he had been able to put this one to bed a long time ago though. The reason I am aggressive is because seriously, you have a hundred kids here who have probably never worked a real job in their entire lives, still live with their parents, and they are arguing that someone who is extremely accomplished should answer to them just because they speculated on a project if his. Anyways, you seem to think your an investor? Your not, no one here is. Until an IPO is launched, we are all speculators riding a project he is creating. So the whole boardroom argument goes out the window. We don't pay his wages, we don't own a share in a holding company he is employed by, no money was raised to fund this project, he is working for free. And as such, we are not investors anymore than me buying EURO's give me a say in what happens in European Parliament. Anyways, If we want to speculate on the success of that project that is our right, but thinking this has any relation to the real world business hierarchy is beyond nieve. We are not investors, we are speculators. As I said before, until we pay him personally, or buy a share in a holding company that owns the rights to his development, we have zero rights, and people need to seriously start respecting that. I frankly am tired of all this shit, I'm not saying your one of those kids, but they are everywhere. BTT has turned into an absolute joke |
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Seriously no one can explain to me why XC dev gave bitcoin to loljosh?
You know why. You know why when there is 12 minute block times. Seriously, ATCSecure hired him to do some of the leg work. It would make sense that arguably the best dev in the alt currency world wouldn't want to waste his time building the base when he needs to focus on the much more technical stuff. No doubt he has vetted it all and it's all fine. Now he's focusing on making this the most anonymous cryptocurrency. Nothing shows fear more than bashing the competition. Please, for the love of god, look at his CV. If you think someone like that lets loljosh near anything apart from the basics you have no idea how these people think. You don't get to where he has by paying other people to do the advanced stuff, you build that yourself. When you guys have world firsts in technology development and worked for companies such as IBM, come discredit his way of doing things then. loljosh's code underpins the entire coin - would you try and put a ferrari engine in a shitbox. No because the chassis, brakes, suspension would not be able to cope. You want quality - you start with quality. Doesnt matter what whiz bang features the dev promises. Bullshit. When you've worked in a string of Fortune 500 companies you'd understand. Aslong as the basics are there, people don't waste there time on shit like that, it's not worth their time. Loljosh's coding skills are excellent, and have been proven many and many times over. Arguing his coding is shit is absolute crap. Gotta hand it to you Mike, you do make sense Well I've been fortunate enough to work with people with CV's like ATCSecure's and trust me, you don't fucking argue with how they do things. People like that are the sort that build magic that revolutionises industries, you give them space and let them do what they do best. You start pegging them down with useless bullshit like building base code and your wasting their talent. I understand your point and you are right about the hierarchy that is needed to be innovative and the fastest but the way you are going leads to an ensuing loss of power of judgement for the people following the dev and for new investors. As you have been around in cryptoworld for quite some time i guess you should know better about the transparency needs of every new coin coming up. It s essential no matter what genius created it. Fuck transparency. Seriously. Who are we to argue about the details? Until anyone here knows even one tenth of what a person like that knows, they sit back and relax, and enjoy the fact people like this are working on a project like this. You name one other Dev in the crypto world apart from statoshi himself who has the credentials he does? You don't argue, you don't bicker, you sit back and relax. I couldn't care what he's done, all I look at is the results he is producing, and time after time he has delivered. In less than a month he has done what took darkcoin five, and trust me, in a months time this crypto will look nothing like the rest. Sit back and relax. You don't argue with your CEO and you definitely don't need to know what he's doing when he produces results after results. who are we to argue about the details? The investors who spent money to allow the coin to grow, that's who. That's your problem. You think you are an investor. Your not. Seriously, you need to get off your high horse. Your not an investor anymore than me buying EURO's gives me a say in what goes on European Parliament. Until he launches and IPO to pay his wages, you guys are nothing more than speculators trying to get rich of his project. |
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Seriously no one can explain to me why XC dev gave bitcoin to loljosh?
You know why. You know why when there is 12 minute block times. Seriously, ATCSecure hired him to do some of the leg work. It would make sense that arguably the best dev in the alt currency world wouldn't want to waste his time building the base when he needs to focus on the much more technical stuff. No doubt he has vetted it all and it's all fine. Now he's focusing on making this the most anonymous cryptocurrency. Nothing shows fear more than bashing the competition. Please, for the love of god, look at his CV. If you think someone like that lets loljosh near anything apart from the basics you have no idea how these people think. You don't get to where he has by paying other people to do the advanced stuff, you build that yourself. When you guys have world firsts in technology development and worked for companies such as IBM, come discredit his way of doing things then. loljosh's code underpins the entire coin - would you try and put a ferrari engine in a shitbox. No because the chassis, brakes, suspension would not be able to cope. You want quality - you start with quality. Doesnt matter what whiz bang features the dev promises. Bullshit. When you've worked in a string of Fortune 500 companies you'd understand. Aslong as the basics are there, people don't waste there time on shit like that, it's not worth their time. Loljosh's coding skills are excellent, and have been proven many and many times over. Arguing his coding is shit is absolute crap. Gotta hand it to you Mike, you do make sense Well I've been fortunate enough to work with people with CV's like ATCSecure's and trust me, you don't fucking argue with how they do things. People like that are the sort that build magic that revolutionises industries, you give them space and let them do what they do best. You start pegging them down with useless bullshit like building base code and your wasting their talent. I understand your point and you are right about the hierarchy that is needed to be innovative and the fastest but the way you are going leads to an ensuing loss of power of judgement for the people following the dev and for new investors. As you have been around in cryptoworld for quite some time i guess you should know better about the transparency needs of every new coin coming up. It s essential no matter what genius created it. Fuck transparency. Seriously. Who are we to argue about the details? Until anyone here knows even one tenth of what a person like that knows, they sit back and relax, and enjoy the fact people like this are working on a project like this. You name one other Dev in the crypto world apart from statoshi himself who has the credentials he does? You don't argue, you don't bicker, you sit back and relax. I couldn't care what he's done, all I look at is the results he is producing, and time after time he has delivered. In less than a month he has done what took darkcoin five, and trust me, in a months time this crypto will be leaps and bounds above the completion. Sit back and relax. You don't argue with your CEO and you definitely don't need to know what he's doing when he produces results after results. People don't realise how lucky they are to have a coder like this working in the bitcoin space. |
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Seriously no one can explain to me why XC dev gave bitcoin to loljosh?
You know why. You know why when there is 12 minute block times. Seriously, ATCSecure hired him to do some of the leg work. It would make sense that arguably the best dev in the alt currency world wouldn't want to waste his time building the base when he needs to focus on the much more technical stuff. No doubt he has vetted it all and it's all fine. Now he's focusing on making this the most anonymous cryptocurrency. Nothing shows fear more than bashing the competition. Please, for the love of god, look at his CV. If you think someone like that lets loljosh near anything apart from the basics you have no idea how these people think. You don't get to where he has by paying other people to do the advanced stuff, you build that yourself. When you guys have world firsts in technology development and worked for companies such as IBM, come discredit his way of doing things then. loljosh's code underpins the entire coin - would you try and put a ferrari engine in a shitbox. No because the chassis, brakes, suspension would not be able to cope. You want quality - you start with quality. Doesnt matter what whiz bang features the dev promises. Bullshit. When you've worked in a string of Fortune 500 companies you'd understand. Aslong as the basics are there, people don't waste there time on shit like that, it's not worth their time. Loljosh's coding skills are excellent, and have been proven many and many times over. Arguing his coding is shit is absolute crap. Gotta hand it to you Mike, you do make sense Well I've been fortunate enough to work with people with CV's like ATCSecure's and trust me, you don't fucking argue with how they do things. People like that are the sort that build magic that revolutionises industries, lie what he's doing now, you give them as much space as possible and let them do what they do best. You start pegging them down with useless bullshit like building base code and your wasting their talent. |
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Seriously no one can explain to me why XC dev gave bitcoin to loljosh?
You know why. You know why when there is 12 minute block times. Seriously, ATCSecure hired him to do some of the leg work. It would make sense that arguably the best dev in the alt currency world wouldn't want to waste his time building the base when he needs to focus on the much more technical stuff. No doubt he has vetted it all and it's all fine. Now he's focusing on making this the most anonymous cryptocurrency. Nothing shows fear more than bashing the competition. Please, for the love of god, look at his CV. If you think someone like that lets loljosh near anything apart from the basics you have no idea how these people think. You don't get to where he has by paying other people to do the advanced stuff, you build that yourself. When you guys have world firsts in technology development and worked for companies such as IBM, come discredit his way of doing things then. loljosh's code underpins the entire coin - would you try and put a ferrari engine in a shitbox. No because the chassis, brakes, suspension would not be able to cope. You want quality - you start with quality. Doesnt matter what whiz bang features the dev promises. Bullshit. When you've worked in a string of Fortune 500 companies you'd understand. Aslong as the basics are there, people don't waste there time on shit like that, it's not worth their time. Loljosh's coding skills are excellent, and have been proven many and many times over. Arguing his coding is shit is absolute crap. |
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Seriously no one can explain to me why XC dev gave bitcoin to loljosh?
You know why. You know why when there is 12 minute block times. Seriously, ATCSecure hired him to do some of the leg work. It would make sense that arguably the best dev in the alt currency world wouldn't want to waste his time building the base when he needs to focus on the much more technical stuff. No doubt he has vetted it all and it's all fine. Now he's focusing on making this the most anonymous cryptocurrency. Nothing shows fear more than bashing the competition. Please, for the love of god, look at his CV. If you think someone like that lets loljosh near anything apart from the basics you have no idea how these people think. You don't get to where he has by paying other people to do the advanced stuff, you build that yourself. When you guys have world firsts in technology development and worked for companies such as IBM, come discredit his way of doing things then. Stop trying to reason with these guys. Its like trying to teach a fish how to count. use that magical "ignore" button and you wont have to read their crap anymore. I'm not trying to reason with them. It's the most logical decision. It's what I'd do in his place. Why the fuck would I spend 6 months researching something when I can get someone else to do it for me? People like that don't waste their time implementing basics, they pay other people to do it for them. |
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Seriously no one can explain to me why XC dev gave bitcoin to loljosh?
You know why. You know why when there is 12 minute block times. Seriously, ATCSecure hired him to do some of the leg work. It would make sense that arguably the best dev in the alt currency world working alone world wouldn't want to waste his time building the base, especially when he needs to focus on the much more technical stuff. No doubt he has vetted it all and it's all fine. Now he's focusing on making this the most anonymous cryptocurrency. Nothing shows fear more than bashing the competition. Please, for the love of god, look at his CV. If you think someone like that lets loljosh near anything apart from the basics you have no idea how these people think. You don't get to where he has by paying other people to do the advanced stuff, you build that yourself. When you guys have twenty plus years of experience, world renown firsts in technology development and worked for companies such as IBM, come discredit his way of doing things then. |
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Can somebody explain to me why XC was worth about 0.005+ last week and quickly after that went down to ~0.002 until now and hasn't moved much? We only had positive news (anonymity being implemented) the last days, right?  The 0.005 value was from a bubble. Bubble prices are not sustainable. We will retest at some point though. |
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Your a legend. Cheers for this. |
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And check out the comments while your there, especially the gilded one. they clearly state this is FUD |
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i can see through both your bullshit talk  il leave it to PETA to show you your wrong, 35/65 is most likely what they will go forward with i stand that PETA can ROI faster then other miners and thus grow with reinvestment's i paid 3.5BTC for my 600GH/s Monarch, i will still be able to break even, considering the slowdown in difficulty increases. If i buy more hardware at peak BTC value, i can most certainly grow and make even more BTC, especially if this time i instead go for available hardware rather then pre-orders, at which point i can get my ROI sooner and and speed up the cycles by adding hardware as i get revenue instead of at the end of ROI break even. ive done my own projections, i know for certain they are not reliable, just as yours you feel so confident of AVOIDING GIViNG the TROLL MORE POSTS with EDIt dialog i have grown impatient, i will not care to elaborate, if people are investing they should be able to think for themselves. they dont need mikemikemike telling them what is. throwing some fallacy's around i see, hogwash really im tired of seeing the trio of non-shareholding disrupters coming in trying to saturate this thread with attitudes of holier then thou, we will now call you the divine trinity. keep blabing and thinking you have the right answer argumentum ad numerum of high degree of innacuracy oh no! mikemikemike, pleas dont feel bad for me! lol take your fake care and sympathy elsewhere you sure made it personal with all your puppet profiles and the obvious intent of your many posts in something you hold no shares i will fight against your intent to mislead PETA shareholders into thinking they should be more like CEX.io or cloudhashing or ButterfylLabs or B.MINE. Reinvestment's are critical to PETA purpose and function. Agree, there is certainly a negative troll pattern emerging with certain accounts. It's all BS. Look, ill leave it here. I've said my peice to try and educate you guys to the best possible outcome for shareholders. If the reinvestment percentage outweighs the dividends ill be back in three months when shit hits the fan and your all crying to remind you all you should have listened. And FYI, the fact I have no shares makes me impartial. I'm only here because believe it or not, allot of the shareholders here respect what I've got to say, and because I know this business inside out. Anyways, anon, its nice to see you've edited your post again to about three times the size it originally was. I wasn't joking about the above. Seriously. Your delusional. Sort your shit out and you'll stop losing money. Peaceeee PS: You'll realise everything I'm saying is correct if you just run the numbers. |
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i can see through both your bullshit talk il leave it to PETA to show you your wrong, 35/65 is most likely what they will go forward with i stand that PETA can ROI faster then other miners and thus grow with reinvestment's i paid 3.5BTC for my 600GH/s Monarch, i will still be able to break even, considering the slowdown in difficulty increases. If i buy more hardware at peak BTC value, i can most certainly grow and make even more BTC, especially if this time i instead go for available hardware rather then pre-orders, at which point i can get my ROI sooner and and speed up the cycles by adding hardware as i get revenue instead of at the end of ROI break even. Saying run projections isn't bullshit. Numbers don't lie. Seriously. I think you need to take a step back and readdress your emotional attachment to your opinions. Honestly, you come across as delusional, and when your playing with money people like that are the last ones you want making investment decisions. Think about what you say and if you honestly, deep down inside believe it, if you do, then seriously, stop. From someone who makes an extremely successful career out of all of this, stop. Buy and hold. Stop mining. Stop investing. Just buy and hold. This is the best piece of advise I can give you. And I'm sorry if it sounds insulting but it is the only viable conclusion left looking at your opinions and their responses. Some people seriously arn't capable of games like this, and they should stop before they lose more and more money. This is allot less a personal attack and allot more my honest belief in my professional capacity. I would say the same to anyone, even my family. Good luck dude. I honestly wish you the best, but at the moment in time, you really need to step back. Anyways, good luck. Ps: I noticed you edited your post. As a retort, I ask that you google the word fallacy, and realise its not a substitute for factual evidence and logical conclusion. Infact, the pure definition of fallacy is the arguments you have posted, not mine. Everything i have said can be backed up by both factual and numerical evidence, while yours cannot, yours is just an opinion backed up by poorly substantive and completely obscure statements. Anyways, this isn't personal. I honestly wish you the best of luck with the future. I just hope you take into consideration what I've posted above. It's honestly important for your future state of mind. Good luck.. |
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Darkcoin again failed at the right shoulder around ~0.219. Second time it attempted this resistance level
Acting more bearish
Your looking at this at too short of a time interval. We are definitely still bullish. Zoom out to the 2H chart, a very similar thing happened around May the 30th. |
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