Dr. Eyjolfur Gudmundsson is the in-house economist at CCP Games, and part of his job is keeping Eve Online and its multiple currencies running smoothly. Eve Online and Dust 514 incorporate a series of virtual currencies, such as ISK, Auram and Plex, that are all interconnected and in some cases can be purchased, or sold for, actual currency

The value of PLEX, which is redeemed for one month of game time in Eve Online, is relatively stable. CCP has experimented with allowing players to purchase video cards with PLEX.

At Fanfest this year players could even purchase things around the convention center by converting their PLEX into "ISK Coins," plastic chips with CCP's logo on them that worked like real currency at certain vendors around the show.

In many ways PLEX has become a working currency, and CCP has tried some experiments using that currency outside of the game. The line between the game's economy and the "real" economy can sometimes grow blurry, and that's by design.

I sat down with Dr. Gudmundsson to discuss the currency and to talk a bit about bitcoin, the much-hyped "crypto currency" that has seen such volatility in the last few years. PLEX has stayed relatively stable and, although it can’t be used as payment in many places, it’s relatively easy to move "real" currency into, and in some cases out of, PLEX.

Once the trust is there, they break the trust and profit from it

"I find it very interesting that people that are behind the cryptocurrencies, they seem to distrust governments. So they create a system that is supposed to be closed, just a fixed amount of money, and nobody can create fiat monies, no bankers will benefit from it. And yet, they don’t tell you who is behind it, and they’re telling you the code is secure," he told Polygon.

"I look at them say, ‘Don’t trust the governments,’ but they expect us to trust something because it’s code somebody wrote I don’t know who is. And there’s a notion of people who did this originally, who are sitting on millions and millions of bitcoins and will cash out at some point," Dr. Gudmundsson continued.

This is why bitcoin is so interesting when viewed through the lens of Eve Online: this is the cycle of all the classic in-game scams. A system is set up, value is promised, trust is gained and you may not know exactly who is behind any of it… and then the endgame comes when the masterminds cash out and everyone else loses everything.

"And all of these stories could all come from Eve," Dr. Gudmundsson said. "People trying to figure out a scamming system that they will actually build some value, make people trust it, and once the trust is there, they break the trust and profit from it."

"I openly talk to people about that and specifically with people that are very enthusiastic about this being the next big wave, and I just ask, can you prove to me that this is not a scam? And they say yeah because the code is safe," he said.

"And I say, OK are you absolutely sure that this code can’t be changed, because I don’t know the code and I don’t know the technology behind the code, but I have to trust it to use it so how are they going to convince people all over the world that this is trustworthy if there is no government behind it?"

In the case of PLEX, the "government" behind the currency is CCP Games itself. Since the value of PLEX is one month of game time, and that one month has a set value, that unit of PLEX will always be tied that particular value. As long as people want to play the game PLEX will have value to them, so a strong game will lead to a strong value for PLEX.

"That’s the trust. They know if they buy a PLEX, the PLEX will be redeemable for ISK in the future," Dr. Gudmundsson explained. "They would rather keep a Plex on their account than too much ISK because ISK fluctuates in value as well. We have inflation in Eve, and that can change over time. So we can definitely say that the trust that we have from the players is a big part of the success."

CCP Games has a selfish desire to keep PLEX stable; as the value of PLEX is an indicator in interest in the game and the amount of people who want to play it. Governments also have a desire to keep the economy stable and to provide certain protections against things such as money laundering, fraud and tax evasion.

The people who designed bitcoin? That’s an open question, and if you look at bitcoin through the same lens of virtual currencies in Eve Online, bitcoin is in the stage that takes place right before the scammers cash out. This is, of course, operating under the assumption that the real world will mirror the in-game economy of a title about online space ships.

 It is just a private group of scammers and other kind of criminals, as other poster said their group name is just to cause confusion. But it is worrying 'cause as far as i know core developers are founding members of such group. We can't let bitcoin development in their hands.

 

It may matter, but the law does think so. He will be sentenced for everything.

The werid part is that he was a honest man, he never stole his customers.
Karpeles stole like $500mi from thousands of customers and he is free.

That's not FUD. That fact. Banks are studying what to do, and they will do.

Good finding, but it seems Hal was not the only one to use double spaces. Look at this e-mail. The person he is replying to also does use double space.
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/openpgp/current/msg04987.html


Going thru' the list there are other users using double spaces after periods, looks like it was a usual behaviour in that mail list.

You can automate everything if you want, once an address/qr code is created it is associated with the table number, time and expected to receive a specific amount of BTC. If it is paid by the customer the system instantly detects and mark it as paid, and it is removed from the system when that table is paid with another payment method.

There is one more thing wrong, Szabo claimed himself to be a law professor at GW University.

"UPDATE: According to George Washington University, it has no record of Mr. Szabo ever working at the school as a law professor. An earlier version of this post stated that Mr. Szabo was a former George Washington University law professor."

http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/04/16/bitcoin-creator-satoshi-nakamoto-unmasked-again/

Thanks, removing the picture. This man is as secretive as Satoshi.

Anyone used this service?
Is there any similar one?

How do i contact the site owner? I can't find any contact info on the site.

I also wonder why he never blamed Satoshi for stealing his idea and even his brand name? BitGold and BitCoin.

I never said anything about Detroit or HSBC, i'm talking about Bitcoin on the internet.

That was just a summary of a concept, it was not supposed to be rich in pratical details or definitive.

I think Nick has to explain how he came with the whole concept of bit gold, and why he abandoned and never wrote anything about it again. Maybe 'cause he started writing as Satoshi Nakamoto?

Illegal businesses/deals and money laundry in factually predominant, no research is needed. And it will be until our grand mothers start using bitcoin instead of credit cards.

Right now people just don't have many reasons to use bitcoin for legal deals, even those into bitcoin.


  

At least the server version, everything is outdated except the essentials like apache and openssl. If you want secure out of the box you gotta use CentOs for server, they have everything updated. For Desktop i have no idea.

 A frenchman is a native person of France, such native people are not jews. So we are not talking about a frenchman, we are talking about an alien who managed to obtain french nationality, get your facts straight.

Mark may be french, jew but not a frenchman.
 

Op is somewhat right, bit that's just 'cause as bitcoin is not mainstream the dark side is predominant.

Nick is the inventor of bit gold, which in theory is absolutely the same as bitcoin even the name looks like. The bit gold post is from 2008. If he is not Satoshi, they had some connection.

I don't care for the linguistics, the bit gold post is enough.

would be more interesting to know who lost everything

 Recently i had problems to install bitcoin daemon on Ubuntu server 12.04. The default  third party repositrory is "launchpad" and i have no idea who they are. I decided to blind trust it anyway instead of building from the sources myself, i needed a apecific version that they would not offer thru' apt-get, they just offer the latest. But i could find the deb package on their site, and use dpkg inestead of apt-get, but then on the next day when i wanted to re-install, it was not there anymore.

   Ubuntu totlally sucks for Bitcoin........