Anymore details about what happened with the testnet?
Hi, yah. We hardly got started when someone messed with the blockchain. theirs was longer than ours, and it forked so we couldn't continue. perhaps someone was trying to use the testnet wallet to increase their real darkcoin wallet? I don't know, and I'm quite sure it can't be done, but it screwed up our test. We couldn't send coin to each other anymore. Thinking back on it, I'm wondering if theres a chance I might have caused it. After getting the wallet synced, I aimed some hashpower at it to get some starting coins for the test, then walked away for about 10 minutes. When I got back you had just shown up and pasted an address, but when I tried to send to it, nothing showed up, although I didn't notice any indication that I had been disconnected. When everyone forked, I believe it was said that it jumped from 100 blocks to 700, however thinking back, at the rate the client was giving me mined block popups, it was unlikely I was on a chain with only 100 blocks, as my client probably mined more than that. If my client got disconnected for a bit, or if my blocks weren't propagating for some other reason, it might be possible it forked to my chain when it was eventually picked up. Oh you naughty boy! (er.. I think, LOL) Well, obviously something got screwy and eduffield has to find out what before we try again  |
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Yeah, I just wanted to do something fun and different that might, maybe be a true anonymous altcoin... But it looks like a dead project...
Can't see how you can call this a dead project when DarkSend is in active testing. But I guess down ramping is still too tempting, even at these low prices, huh? Huge red flag that a project is dead: nothing works and everyone trolls instead of offering useful info. Second red flag, files in archive don't match included docs. 3rd red flag, errors concerning a totally different code project are showing up int he attempted build process... It's not crazy to think it was dead/dying... Glad to see I was wrong in that, but still not getting very far trying to build... qmake was happy, but make is failing... Just because you don't know how to compile on linux... people generally assume linux users either know what they're doing, or they ask questions nicely. Anyway, please look at this: https://github.com/evan82/darkcoin/blob/master/doc/build-unix.md as you'll need to be sure you have all the dependencies. Oops, I just realized that was the headless version, for graphical interface version, go here: https://github.com/evan82/darkcoin/blob/master/doc/readme-qt.rst |
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Anymore details about what happened with the testnet?
Hi, yah. We hardly got started when someone messed with the blockchain. theirs was longer than ours, and it forked so we couldn't continue. perhaps someone was trying to use the testnet wallet to increase their real darkcoin wallet? I don't know, and I'm quite sure it can't be done, but it screwed up our test. We couldn't send coin to each other anymore. |
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Yes, this is going to have to be assigned to eduffield as soon as darksend is completed,  I think it'll take him a week or two.  I think I'd rather have the main DEV out of jail. Not sure about you guys? The Darkroad marketplace will pop up soon enough. Oh, I don't think we were talking about a "DarkRoad" but rather a system to make secure, escrow like transactions from the wallet, or corroborated wallets of many coins so that exchanges wouldn't be needed |
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Yes, this is going to have to be assigned to eduffield as soon as darksend is completed, I think it'll take him a week or two. I think I'd rather have the main DEV out of jail. Not sure about you guys? The Darkroad marketplace will pop up soon enough. I hope the person who owns darkroad.com never sells their site! I looked to buy it so it couldn't be used, but I'm probably fighting a losing battle  BTW, I voted also, it'd be nice if they're a good exchange.... |
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Interested and waiting. Would like to see the whitepaper on how this Proof of Fiction works -- definitely before any "IPO investment" is put in.
LOL |
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Can anyone make a decentralized drug market please? Silkroad is fucked. I can sell over there ..
(potato's)
I missed this boat completly , started mining today , 50 coin per day *.*.
This coin can shoot up to 100m marketcap if it has a good running drugmarket. Silkroad is fucked.
The solution is decentralized anonymous market.. so you don't have idiots taking a huge cut loosing coins and general jackassery. It will happen... it has too. Yes, this is going to have to be assigned to eduffield as soon as darksend is completed, |
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Here it is! https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Securing_your_walletA pretty paranoid piece, so perhaps incorrect, however if you look down to the section that says Securing the Bitcoin-QT or bitcoind wallet, you'll see what I read. Perhaps I'm understanding it wrongly. Or perhaps it's wrong? Please, smart guys and gals out there, check it out and confirm or clarify for us Thanks
So when a backup is first created, it has all of your old keys plus 100 unused keys. After sending a transaction, it has 99 unused keys. After a total of 100 new-key actions, you will start using keys that are not in your backup. Since the backup does not have the private keys necessary for authorizing spends of these coins, restoring from the old backup will cause you to lose Bitcoins. I hate to keep bringing this up, but could eduffield, CHAOSiTEC , InternetApe or someone tell me if this is true or not? Thanks so much! It's my understanding that change addresses usually use the unused pool addresses, then every time you use 100 it will make another new 100 addresses to use. So you technically only need to backup whenever that mass generation happens. This about sums it up: The wallet contains a pool of queued keys. By default there are 100 keys in the key pool. The size of the pool is configurable using the "-keypool" command line argument. When you need an address for whatever reason (send, “new address”, generation, etc.), the key is not actually generated freshly, but taken from this pool. A brand new address is generated to fill the pool back to 100. So when a backup is first created, it has all of your old keys plus 100 unused keys. After sending a transaction, it has 99 unused keys. After a total of 100 new-key actions, you will start using keys that are not in your backup. Since the backup does not have the private keys necessary for authorizing spends of these coins, restoring from the old backup will cause you to lose Bitcoins Yup, that's what I was reading when I realized I would have to take a more active roll in backing up my wallet and wanted to spread the knowledge. Sorry for being annoying today, but that was my exciting lesson for the day, LOL |
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It's my understanding that change addresses usually use the unused pool addresses, then every time you use 100 it will make another new 100 addresses to use. So you technically only need to backup whenever that mass generation happens.
I was told that every time you send coins and a change address is used, a new one is generated, so that there are always 100 addresses ready to be used. There is no mass generation. That also means that no matter when you make a backup, you have 100 sends left to make the next backup. either way, I was under the impression that you only need one backup of your wallet and you're good.... as in for life, if your backup holds. But one could quickly go through a hundred transactions, and if one didn't periodically back up the wallet, one could lose the most recent transactions. Anyway, maybe everyone knows this, but I didn't. My impression from reading stuff this past 2 months (I am green) was that one backup covered you |
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Is it more profitable to mine DRK directly, or to mine something else like Doge or Mint and then trade for DRK?
It WAS more profitable to mine/buy MINT. I bought at 7 sat. And sell 25% at 42 to buy DRK cheap little under 0.001 .. I'm happy with this... Right now I'm searching a cpu-coin to mine, to buy more DRK because they still cheap @market. For the moment didn't find. Mean while still minig DRK... sigh, gotta have money to make money, LOL. But you also have to make a move, and those here taking risks deserve your rewards! |
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Here it is! https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Securing_your_walletA pretty paranoid piece, so perhaps incorrect, however if you look down to the section that says Securing the Bitcoin-QT or bitcoind wallet, you'll see what I read. Perhaps I'm understanding it wrongly. Or perhaps it's wrong? Please, smart guys and gals out there, check it out and confirm or clarify for us Thanks
So when a backup is first created, it has all of your old keys plus 100 unused keys. After sending a transaction, it has 99 unused keys. After a total of 100 new-key actions, you will start using keys that are not in your backup. Since the backup does not have the private keys necessary for authorizing spends of these coins, restoring from the old backup will cause you to lose Bitcoins. I hate to keep bringing this up, but could eduffield, CHAOSiTEC , InternetApe or someone tell me if this is true or not? Thanks so much! Thank you so much, so it is true, and you can't rely on a single backup make "a long time ago" but rather, need to make backups periodically, and probably a good idea to do so after any large transaction. Nobody talks about this, so had I not read this, I wouldn't know either. At least I'm armed with this info now, and I'll backup periodically because of that It's my understanding that change addresses usually use the unused pool addresses, then every time you use 100 it will make another new 100 addresses to use. So you technically only need to backup whenever that mass generation happens. |
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Here it is! https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Securing_your_walletA pretty paranoid piece, so perhaps incorrect, however if you look down to the section that says Securing the Bitcoin-QT or bitcoind wallet, you'll see what I read. Perhaps I'm understanding it wrongly. Or perhaps it's wrong? Please, smart guys and gals out there, check it out and confirm or clarify for us Thanks
So when a backup is first created, it has all of your old keys plus 100 unused keys. After sending a transaction, it has 99 unused keys. After a total of 100 new-key actions, you will start using keys that are not in your backup. Since the backup does not have the private keys necessary for authorizing spends of these coins, restoring from the old backup will cause you to lose Bitcoins. I hate to keep bringing this up, but could eduffield, CHAOSiTEC , InternetApe or someone tell me if this is true or not? Thanks so much! |
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Yeah, I mean the person who bought them at 8 satoshis must feel gutted right now for how "worthless" they are at 0.001 LOL, maybe I should reconsider, LOL |
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I see you guys feeding the troll  But thankfully I don't see the troll as IGNORE is working, LOL |
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Here it is! https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Securing_your_walletA pretty paranoid piece, so perhaps incorrect, however if you look down to the section that says Securing the Bitcoin-QT or bitcoind wallet, you'll see what I read. Perhaps I'm understanding it wrongly. Or perhaps it's wrong? Please, smart guys and gals out there, check it out and confirm or clarify for us Thanks
So when a backup is first created, it has all of your old keys plus 100 unused keys. After sending a transaction, it has 99 unused keys. After a total of 100 new-key actions, you will start using keys that are not in your backup. Since the backup does not have the private keys necessary for authorizing spends of these coins, restoring from the old backup will cause you to lose Bitcoins. |
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Now is definitely a great time to buy. The DRK price is artificially low due to these big dumps occurring. Darkcoin is clearly undervalued when you compare its market cap to other coins. Darkcoin is definitely more innovative than Mintcoin. Darkcoin's proper list on this market cap list should be right below Worldcoin. Which would put the price at .00243 DRK/BTC. http://coinmarketcap.com/I just bought 10BTC worth of DRK on Cryptsy at these discount prices.....TO DA DARKSIDE OF DA MOON! OOOOOoooooooh, I'm so jealous of you!!!! (JK).... er....sorta   |
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BTW: I just read something tonight on the bitcoin wallet, and since our wallets are based on the bitcoin wallet, I'll have to assume it's true of ours. I read that the wallet creates 100 addresses, and you use them up for everything you do, such as send someone a payment, receive a payment, etc... I think it even "uses up" an address for payments from mining. Anyway, once you use them up, the wallet creates 100 new addresses.
The point being that if you think, as I did, that you only need one, original backup of your wallet, it's not so! You're constantly using up that 100 addresses, and if you don't re-save your wallet.dat file after the next 100 addresses are created and used, and something happens, all the newer transactions can be lost to you!
So maintaining your wallet backups is extremely important. You need to guesstimate how often you need to backup, or simply backup often. You can do it with the wallet backup function on the main menu, I forget which drop-down item, 'cause I don't have my wallet on this machine to look at, but from there, you can name the file, something like DarkCoin_2-26-14.dat and save it anywhere you like from that menu. No need to close the wallet even.
Can someone confirm or challenge this above, please? I don't think is true, but I'm not sure. Thanks! you only need to backup your wallet once, the addresses being talk about are the recieving addresses, your wallet private key, is only 1 key, the rest is calculated from that key The article said that the wallet only knows about the addresses after they're created and therefore if the wallet is not backed up after the latest block of 100, and the wallet is corrupted, coin would be lost. I wonder if this was a proposal, though I thought I read it in bitcoin wiki or something... dang why didn't I save the page!?!?!?! |
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BTW: I just read something tonight on the bitcoin wallet, and since our wallets are based on the bitcoin wallet, I'll have to assume it's true of ours. I read that the wallet creates 100 addresses, and you use them up for everything you do, such as send someone a payment, receive a payment, etc... I think it even "uses up" an address for payments from mining. Anyway, once you use them up, the wallet creates 100 new addresses.
The point being that if you think, as I did, that you only need one, original backup of your wallet, it's not so! You're constantly using up that 100 addresses, and if you don't re-save your wallet.dat file after the next 100 addresses are created and used, and something happens, all the newer transactions can be lost to you!
So maintaining your wallet backups is extremely important. You need to guesstimate how often you need to backup, or simply backup often. You can do it with the wallet backup function on the main menu, I forget which drop-down item, 'cause I don't have my wallet on this machine to look at, but from there, you can name the file, something like DarkCoin_2-26-14.dat and save it anywhere you like from that menu. No need to close the wallet even.
Can someone confirm or challenge this above, please? I don't think is true, but I'm not sure. Thanks! I'd like it confirmed as well, 'cause it's not said anywhere and makes me nervous as well! |
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That's quite annoying, although I can't actually find any evidence of that happening. Guessing you need to be logged in at C-Cex to check trade history, I don't have an account there.
Also I've been having a weird problem with my wallet (windows user). Basically all my coins have been sent to ONE address from the exchanges. On my laptop I have created 3 addresses (although 2 have never used). This wallet has 185 DRK. I backed up my wallet.dat (just to prove I'm backing the correct thing the one in %appdata%\Roaming\DarkCoin) and placed it in that dir on my desktop. On my desktop it shows I have only 25 coins and 1 transaction instead of 4 (even though all 4 transactions have been to the wallet address displayed on my desktop QT).
I've tried using the same QT as on my laptop, downloading new QT (thought maybe old version), but I can't seem to get my desktop to realise my wallet has 185 coins in it. My laptop knows though, same wallet.dat.
What the..?
seems like the same problem i worked on earlier... Yeah that's what I was thinking, be interesting to figure out what causes it. I didn't do anything specific just backup the wallet.dat. I'm sure deleting the wallet.dat on my desktop (incorrect balance) and creating a new one sending ALL the coins from the laptop to the new wallet would solve the problem? Then again, will my laptop then be showing wrong funds if I transfer it over? I just want piece of mind I have a wallet.dat file backed up with all my damn coins retrievable lol delete old on desktop, delete wallet-qt download latest, let it sync, send over 1 coin see if it goes through, if yes, backup wallet (through menu or close down wallet-qt then copy) then send over the rest or test with 0.00001? or less. Always, always, ALWAYS TEST FIRST. Always, always, ALWAYS BACKUP. Correctly, back up correctly! I'm seeing so many do it from the Appdata directory with an open client. And again, I also read about how the client creates 100 addresses that are used for every kind of transaction, I don't understand it all, but you use them up pretty quickly depending on how often you have transactions coming or going through your wallet. When you use up those 100, a new 100 addresses are created. This is a feature that supposedly helps obfuscate bitcoin transactions a little bit. the point being, that if you last backed up before the latest batch of 100 addresses, or maybe several batches if you've had your wallet for months or years and only backed up once, you will lose any transactions that happened using any not-backed-up addresses. You must back up your wallet on a regular basis! I did not know that myself until I happened to be reading up on it in a wiki or something yesterday. Wish I had the link, but I want to spread that info in case it helps someone avoid tragedy. Wallets need to be backed up often as they change! -simplistic, but works, LOL - |
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That's quite annoying, although I can't actually find any evidence of that happening. Guessing you need to be logged in at C-Cex to check trade history, I don't have an account there.
Also I've been having a weird problem with my wallet (windows user). Basically all my coins have been sent to ONE address from the exchanges. On my laptop I have created 3 addresses (although 2 have never used). This wallet has 185 DRK. I backed up my wallet.dat (just to prove I'm backing the correct thing the one in %appdata%\Roaming\DarkCoin) and placed it in that dir on my desktop. On my desktop it shows I have only 25 coins and 1 transaction instead of 4 (even though all 4 transactions have been to the wallet address displayed on my desktop QT).
I've tried using the same QT as on my laptop, downloading new QT (thought maybe old version), but I can't seem to get my desktop to realise my wallet has 185 coins in it. My laptop knows though, same wallet.dat.
What the..?
seems like the same problem i worked on earlier... PLEASE! back up you wallet by using the File > Backup Wallet feature. IF you backup your wallet from the /AppData/ directory, you MUST be sure to have your wallet closed FIRST. |
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