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1401  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: February 04, 2016, 12:59:00 PM
Jesus is the rock.
I am founded on Jesus.
Of course talking to me is like talking to a rock...
You can't move the foundation of the universe, the Rock, Jesus Christ.

Hate to break it to you, but Jesus is a myth...

Quote
In his book "On the Historicity of Jesus: Why We Might Have Reason for Doubt," Dr. Richard Carrier argues that the euhemerism of the mystical Jesus is a likely explanation of the myth of Jesus.

DEBATE on the Historicity of Jesus - Dr. Richard Carrier vs Trent Horn

There is literally zero historical evidence of this Jesus character... which is VERY suspicious...

Granted, we don't know much about the average guy who lived 2000 years ago, but this was not an average guy... We know lots about famous people of the time, like Julius Caesar...

No historian wrote about Jesus (and some were alive at the time)... Don't try mentioning Josephus, that was 70 years after Jesus died, and a proven forgery of the 3rd century (the text changed 200 years after Josephus wrote it)... There is not a single non-biblical account of "Jesus"

There is not a single object directly related to Jesus... he was a carpenter for 30 years... where are all the chairs and tables made by Jesus?  He must have made tens of thousands of wooden objects if he was a carpenter...

Jesus is a conglomeration of various myths which had been floating around the Mediterranean region for centuries... its quite well documented

And again, +1 for science. But I'm sure the rock guy will find another irrelevant, nothing to do with reality argument to answer. Because he wants to "save us". I mean, no one asked him to, because from what I'm seeing people are asking to be left alone, but no. He has a mission. He's a rock. Stubborn as a rock. Mind as a rock? Let us ponder on this brothers and sisters.

Science is absolutely great. God made it, and we get to use it. It proves God, and it proves those who say that God does not exist to be liars. Up with God and science. Down with those who believe science theory is the truth.

Smiley

You've said a lot of things but still haven't seen any concrete proof. You've said that you've proven something but I've only seen words. Show us the proof man. God exists because God exists is not proof. It's just you saying "God exists".
And I say "Star Wars exists and it's great!".

You can't give proof. That's stupid if you could prove God's existence, there would be no need of having faith in Him.

The important thing is to be honest with your own feelings. If you have the faith, then you should cherish it and live regarding it. If you don't, then it's not your fault and you shouldn't be judged for that.

This is faulty thinking. For example. You know that I exist. The proof that I exist lies in the fact that you see my post in this forum.

If, on the other hand, I say that I have 20 children, you might have to take me on faith, if you do not know me personally.

In a similar way, we can know that God exists as a fact. If we know it as fact, there isn't any room for having faith in His existence.

But we need to have faith that He will save us for eternal life in Heaven when He tells us  this. Why? Because we haven't seen it happen yet. We don't know that it will happen, except that God has told us that it will happen. We either have faith in Him for this salvation, or we don't.

That God exists is fact. We might have to take something that He says, or some attribute about Him, on faith.

Smiley

Poor reasoning here. If we had the proof of His existence then how us, mortals, could oppose His will? Then how could He test us?
He couldn't judge us because some would be frightened of Him, other would love Him, but actions would be the same.
1402  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 04, 2016, 12:56:41 PM

Hmm...
You know it's really putting your faith in technology evolution and respect of the Moore law...

But experience is showing that Moore law is reaching a limit. The base of Moore principle is that the more time passes, the smaller electronic elements become. But we're reaching a point where you cant get any smaller! It becomes harder and harder and we'll eventually reach a physical limit: you can't go small enough to reach the nanometer. At this scale physics as we know no longer exists...

Moore's Law is a straw man - the previous poster was talking about general technological progress, not the much more narrow Moore's Law. A limit to component density didn't prevent technological development in the centuries before Gordon Moore, and there's no reason to suspect it'll stop simply when integrated circuitry reaches a physical limit.

Well I understand your point but I'd say it's totally flawed.
It's not because it had happened that it will actually happen  Cheesy

I wouldn't be incredibly shocked if in 10 years scientists would explain that we reached a point in IT where development can't really go any further. You're still limited to physic, and if you can't make smaller elements... What can you do?

Oh maybe in only 3 days someone is going to come with a revolution in science and explain something that will allow us to use a 1000times better internet/PC. But it's not because it has, and it can, that it will  Smiley

If you can't make smaller elements... What can you do?

Well... you can:
  • Connect multiple elements together.
  • Continue to improve elements in ways that don't rely on component density, or even reduce the number of components.
  • Develop better ways to connect elements.
A revolution in 3 days isn't necessary. Technological developments that speed our processing power and increase our bandwidth happen all the time, and are not tightly coupled to component density. They tend not to yield 1000x improvements, but they compound together over time to achieve something pretty spectacular. The shift from CISC to RISC CPUs, for example, reduced the complexity of CPUs (and hence the number of components they required), allowing more powerful computers - it wasn't necessary for component density to increase, because the number of components was *decreasing*. The shift from HDDs to SSDs has increased bandwidth. Wi-fi gets faster with every generation, and that's (broadly) using tech that's familiar to radio engineers from back in the day.

I'm not saying that Moore's Law didn't happen, that it was a bad thing, or anything like that. What I'm saying is that reaching a limit to the number of components we can put on a piece of silicon is not going to bring an end to technological development in general, or to IT in particular. Bitcoin is safe.

I'd say that you're rather right.
But being confident in the increase of IT performances doesn't mean it HAS to happen ^^

Bitcoin SHOULD be safe. But it doesn't need an apocalypse in IT sector to be endangered, just a freezing in evolution Smiley
1403  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: February 04, 2016, 09:45:08 AM
every day they prove with their acts what islam is...rapings,assults,attacks,beating,stabbing...we saw enough...we don't need them in our world and civilization

That's a bit a stupid point of view man. You could say exactly the same thing from Christians of the 15th.

Again, it's important to have a global point of view and understand that their religion is not as old as Catholicism. So if you want to judge like you do, compare to the religion of the 15th century. It was not very different...

And let's be aware that all soldiers kill and rape. Even the American soldiers raped French women after ww2.

And that brings up a great point to consider. When does a person become part of a religion? When he says, "I am part of that religion?" When he follows 3 of the directives of that religion? When he follows 5 of the directives? Or does he have to follow them all perfectly?

There have been many people of all kinds of religions who have not followed their religion perfectly. In some cases the people barely follow the dictates of the religion they say that they are part of.

If a Muslim followed the dictates of his religion, Islam, more perfectly, he would execute the infidels who refused to become Muslim, after giving them a time to turn to Islam. Why? Because the holy writings of Islam say to do this.

On the other hand, Christians are not harm people of other religions when those people do not convert, but are to be loved by the Christians, anyway. That's the Bible directives for the Christians. Christians are supposed to be peaceful and loving towards all people according to the holy writings of their religion.

Both Muslims and Christians often fail at obeying the directives of their holy writings. The Muslims fail when they are not appropriately violent. The Christians fail when they are not appropriately peaceful.

Smiley

Depends of what you consider as Christians. The Bible is not exactly peaceful...
And the Leviticus explains perfectly what you shall do to other people of other religion. And it's not peaceful at all.

There is no difference between Islam and Christianity. It's just that Christians understand that the Bible shouldn't be followed exactly and adapt the sacred text to the age in which they live.
1404  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Racism is a real thing (this thread is extremely racist) on: February 04, 2016, 09:26:41 AM
Intelligence has nothing to do with melanin, usually more to do with upbringing and environment than anything genetic. Intelligence as a differentiator is also dynamic as someone can always become smarter, however more difficult it becomes as we age. How does one define a race genetically? There are so many different combinations, how do you specify which combinations are which race?

There are idiots of all races. Deal with them as individuals instead of trying to paint a broad picture due to the limitations of your

And again, how do you define intelligence? I totally agree with you saying that it's more a question of environment than of genetics, but even if it was a question of genetics, you can't really define intelligence.

IQ measures only pure logical capacities. You can have an IQ of 160 and still be dumb as hell, you'll just be extremely good at maths.
1405  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 04, 2016, 09:24:54 AM
don't forget everyone! BITCOIN CANNOT SCALE! until it does then it still doesn't ... its only been EIGHT MONTHS of arguing over it. #GimpedCoin

Technological progress actually ...ensures that bitcoin not only can scale, but will indeed scale. It's not a matter of if, only a matter of when.

1995 = Pentium 75-100MHz / 8-16MB ram / 1-2GB disks / 14.4kbps - 128kbps connections.
2015 = 4-8core CPUs at 4 GHz / 4-16GB ram / 1-4 TB disks / home connections in the mbps to gbps (for fiber).

Everything has gone upwards like 1000x in 20 years. Processing power, memory, storage, network connections etc. And I'm not counting processing breakthroughs in GPU power or storage speedup like SSDs.

If the trend continues, by 2035 the technology will allow >5000tx/sec, without even improving the software. If the software gets improved (and it constantly is getting scaling improvements), we are talking multiple that - so we'll be seeing VISA-like capabilities way before the 2030's.

Bitcoin is ...doomed to scale, except if some catastrophic failure of our civilization destroys the IT industry. And we won't have to wait for 2035 for scaling, that's just a number. There are incremental steps in hardware and network capabilities all the time. We just want too much, too fast. And that's good because scaling solutions will have to be devised faster. Although one thing will never be overcome: The necessity for fees. It is impossible to have near-zero cost txs AND protect the network for abuse at the same time.

Free txs = attack vector possible for free.
Near free txs = attack vector possible for peanuts.


Hmm...
You know it's really putting your faith in technology evolution and respect of the Moore law...

But experience is showing that Moore law is reaching a limit. The base of Moore principle is that the more time passes, the smaller electronic elements become. But we're reaching a point where you cant get any smaller! It becomes harder and harder and we'll eventually reach a physical limit: you can't go small enough to reach the nanometer. At this scale physics as we know no longer exists...

Moore's Law is a straw man - the previous poster was talking about general technological progress, not the much more narrow Moore's Law. A limit to component density didn't prevent technological development in the centuries before Gordon Moore, and there's no reason to suspect it'll stop simply when integrated circuitry reaches a physical limit.

Well I understand your point but I'd say it's totally flawed.
It's not because it had happened that it will actually happen  Cheesy

I wouldn't be incredibly shocked if in 10 years scientists would explain that we reached a point in IT where development can't really go any further. You're still limited to physic, and if you can't make smaller elements... What can you do?

Oh maybe in only 3 days someone is going to come with a revolution in science and explain something that will allow us to use a 1000times better internet/PC. But it's not because it has, and it can, that it will  Smiley
1406  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: February 04, 2016, 09:03:43 AM
Jesus is the rock.
I am founded on Jesus.
Of course talking to me is like talking to a rock...
You can't move the foundation of the universe, the Rock, Jesus Christ.

Hate to break it to you, but Jesus is a myth...

Quote
In his book "On the Historicity of Jesus: Why We Might Have Reason for Doubt," Dr. Richard Carrier argues that the euhemerism of the mystical Jesus is a likely explanation of the myth of Jesus.

DEBATE on the Historicity of Jesus - Dr. Richard Carrier vs Trent Horn

There is literally zero historical evidence of this Jesus character... which is VERY suspicious...

Granted, we don't know much about the average guy who lived 2000 years ago, but this was not an average guy... We know lots about famous people of the time, like Julius Caesar...

No historian wrote about Jesus (and some were alive at the time)... Don't try mentioning Josephus, that was 70 years after Jesus died, and a proven forgery of the 3rd century (the text changed 200 years after Josephus wrote it)... There is not a single non-biblical account of "Jesus"

There is not a single object directly related to Jesus... he was a carpenter for 30 years... where are all the chairs and tables made by Jesus?  He must have made tens of thousands of wooden objects if he was a carpenter...

Jesus is a conglomeration of various myths which had been floating around the Mediterranean region for centuries... its quite well documented

And again, +1 for science. But I'm sure the rock guy will find another irrelevant, nothing to do with reality argument to answer. Because he wants to "save us". I mean, no one asked him to, because from what I'm seeing people are asking to be left alone, but no. He has a mission. He's a rock. Stubborn as a rock. Mind as a rock? Let us ponder on this brothers and sisters.

Science is absolutely great. God made it, and we get to use it. It proves God, and it proves those who say that God does not exist to be liars. Up with God and science. Down with those who believe science theory is the truth.

Smiley

You've said a lot of things but still haven't seen any concrete proof. You've said that you've proven something but I've only seen words. Show us the proof man. God exists because God exists is not proof. It's just you saying "God exists".
And I say "Star Wars exists and it's great!".

You can't give proof. That's stupid if you could prove God's existence, there would be no need of having faith in Him.

The important thing is to be honest with your own feelings. If you have the faith, then you should cherish it and live regarding it. If you don't, then it's not your fault and you shouldn't be judged for that.
1407  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: February 04, 2016, 09:01:03 AM
Why do you think so many mass shootings occur at a school, or other "gun free zone"?

The answer is that the crazy person knows it will be less likely that anyone will shoot back...
No, that's probably not the reason.
They choose the schools because they hate the people there.

So the heavily-armed-teacher, staff, IDF & police schools in Israel are being shot up by Daesh at the same rate or worse than the "gun-free teacher, staff, and AWOL police officer zones" in the US?

It's also why you can't have just a part of a country which is gun free. You need the whole country to be gun free or without gun control, cause if you set gun free zones, criminals and citizens will easily get guns by just going out and back of the zone.
1408  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: February 04, 2016, 08:58:19 AM
every day they prove with their acts what islam is...rapings,assults,attacks,beating,stabbing...we saw enough...we don't need them in our world and civilization

That's a bit a stupid point of view man. You could say exactly the same thing from Christians of the 15th.

Again, it's important to have a global point of view and understand that their religion is not as old as Catholicism. So if you want to judge like you do, compare to the religion of the 15th century. It was not very different...

And let's be aware that all soldiers kill and rape. Even the American soldiers raped French women after ww2.
1409  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Racism is a real thing (this thread is extremely racist) on: February 04, 2016, 08:47:48 AM
Again. It's not about the colors. It's all about intelligence! Color is just a mark that helps to "categorize" a human.

Melanin does not help differentiate intelligence. It is a physiological advantage that has no disadvantages. Those with less are disadvantaged for not having as much as those with more melanin.
Keep pushing yourself to think that way if it makes you reach peace of mind. But how many scientists are black? How many things were invented by blacks? How many civilizations did blacks create? Be honest at least with yourself.

Random mutations also need to be considered.

If this is true, it would be the first positive genetic mutation I've ever heard.

http://thehealthinfosite.com/what-is-alexandrias-genesis/

Didn't really get it... What benefits do violet eyes provide?


Don't you get it?

 The difference in color does not affect a person’s ability to see. The people with this genetic mutation do not grow body, facial, anal or pubic hair. They only grow eyelashes, eyebrows, nose and head hair. No shaving...



So this is it...

Therefore, we can conclude that Alexandria’s Genesis is a genetic mutation that offers exceptional beauty and health to its recipients.
Yes, there are random mutations that do not affect any natural abilities but there are ones that do. Personally, I wouldn't want to have such a mutation cause I don't wanna look different. All animals (including humans) are xenophobic by definition which is backed by nature itself and written in genes so they will likely avoid such a person and that causes many social issues to the person. Btw this shouldn't be considered as beauty more likely it's nothing but a deviation.

Oh so you excuse your stupidity by arguing that it exists everywhere in nature? It's a bit easy no? ^^

Just go on, be proud of your under-average IQ that doesn't allow you to understand the most basic of  genetics, philosophy or social sciences.
1410  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 04, 2016, 08:44:32 AM
don't forget everyone! BITCOIN CANNOT SCALE! until it does then it still doesn't ... its only been EIGHT MONTHS of arguing over it. #GimpedCoin

Technological progress actually ...ensures that bitcoin not only can scale, but will indeed scale. It's not a matter of if, only a matter of when.

1995 = Pentium 75-100MHz / 8-16MB ram / 1-2GB disks / 14.4kbps - 128kbps connections.
2015 = 4-8core CPUs at 4 GHz / 4-16GB ram / 1-4 TB disks / home connections in the mbps to gbps (for fiber).

Everything has gone upwards like 1000x in 20 years. Processing power, memory, storage, network connections etc. And I'm not counting processing breakthroughs in GPU power or storage speedup like SSDs.

If the trend continues, by 2035 the technology will allow >5000tx/sec, without even improving the software. If the software gets improved (and it constantly is getting scaling improvements), we are talking multiple that - so we'll be seeing VISA-like capabilities way before the 2030's.

Bitcoin is ...doomed to scale, except if some catastrophic failure of our civilization destroys the IT industry. And we won't have to wait for 2035 for scaling, that's just a number. There are incremental steps in hardware and network capabilities all the time. We just want too much, too fast. And that's good because scaling solutions will have to be devised faster. Although one thing will never be overcome: The necessity for fees. It is impossible to have near-zero cost txs AND protect the network for abuse at the same time.

Free txs = attack vector possible for free.
Near free txs = attack vector possible for peanuts.


Hmm...
You know it's really putting your faith in technology evolution and respect of the Moore law...

But experience is showing that Moore law is reaching a limit. The base of Moore principle is that the more time passes, the smaller electronic elements become. But we're reaching a point where you cant get any smaller! It becomes harder and harder and we'll eventually reach a physical limit: you can't go small enough to reach the nanometer. At this scale physics as we know no longer exists...
1411  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: February 03, 2016, 03:38:54 PM

But I do have faith my dear gentlemen - faith in science. That is still faith is it not?
And I know what will happen a minute from now. 5 things actually:
1. it's gonna get dark
2. I'm gonna eat something
3. I'm going to have a cola after it
4. you'll just continue with your babble
5. and finally, again, you'll continue to ignore our point if view and insist that you're the only one that is right and all uf us are wrong.

Man... You're extremely agressive. Where did I say you were wrong? I never said so! I never even just condemned you! I just say that I can have my faith and still be a reasonable logical an rather intelligent person understanding science too!

And you don't have faith in science, that's the main principle of science you don't have to have faith in it as it proves things...

Dude I was talking to BadDecker. I as agreeing with you.
Also BadDecker - it might interest you that I studied theology for 5 years. If that, somehow, entitles me to have an opinion, in front of you. Even if that opinion is different of yours.

Oh. Well you were quoting me last, but no problem it's a rather hot debate with lots of people talking ^^

And the cola idea was a good one. Gonna take one too!
1412  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: February 03, 2016, 03:35:49 PM

But I do have faith my dear gentlemen - faith in science. That is still faith is it not?
And I know what will happen a minute from now. 5 things actually:
1. it's gonna get dark
2. I'm gonna eat something
3. I'm going to have a cola after it
4. you'll just continue with your babble
5. and finally, again, you'll continue to ignore our point if view and insist that you're the only one that is right and all uf us are wrong.

Man... You're extremely agressive. Where did I say you were wrong? I never said so! I never even just condemned you! I just say that I can have my faith and still be a reasonable logical an rather intelligent person understanding science too!

And you don't have faith in science, that's the main principle of science you don't have to have faith in it as it proves things...
1413  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: February 03, 2016, 03:28:35 PM
Until science discovers and proves that nothing is magical. Just because it wasn't explained until now it doesn't mean it's magic. It just means that at the moment we don't understand it.
Imagine showing our world to a person that lived 100 years ago. He'd be dizzy in a moment and maybe couldn't understand or adapt his whole entire life.
Just as a exercise for your mind: think about yourself being born in 1901, and slowly get closer to our times: how many wonderful are really incredible discoveries have been made? It's astonishing!
Thank you science - you rule!

Never said the contrary. But science can't explain the creation of the world.
Why? Well just simply because in science 0+0 is always 0. If we manage one day to explain the creation of the world "scientifically" it will be by a new way to consider the world which will be as different from current science as from religion.

And again science and religion are not opposed! I see no reason to give up one or another. I'm an engineer and I still have the faith! I know by heart the Maxwell's equations but that also makes me even more aware of what science has still not explained and might never explain!  Cheesy

Science is sometimes very disruptive. You claim you're an engineer then you probably know that the quantum revolution created a new part of science that couldn't have been even imagined before. If we discover dark matter for example maybe it'll lead us to something totally incredible that might even explain the universe!

And that's a complex explanation. I only tried to stay simple with people from let's  say a century ago imagining a plane.
Faith is good, and people can believe whatever they want, just don't try co convince people that have evidence, to believe things of which you only have a book written by a bunch o guys to stand your words on.

I never tried to do so  Smiley

Even, I tried to explain why I think faith is good but why atheists shouldn't be condemned for not having faith, so you can't say i'm trying to convince you ^^
Finally a reasonable man. You keep you faith. We'll gonna keep science. Hope it'll be well in the end for all of us. Just stop trying to force your religion on us. Yeah BADecker - I'm talking to you.

Hmm... No i'll also take science ^^

As I said I think you can have both, science and faith, I don't see why I shouldn't understand how the universe works to be able to have the faith to believe in God! You can have both  Cheesy
1414  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Racism is a real thing (this thread is extremely racist) on: February 03, 2016, 03:19:00 PM
Random mutations also need to be considered.

If this is true, it would be the first positive genetic mutation I've ever heard.

http://thehealthinfosite.com/what-is-alexandrias-genesis/

Didn't really get it... What benefits do violet eyes provide?


Don't you get it?

 The difference in color does not affect a person’s ability to see. The people with this genetic mutation do not grow body, facial, anal or pubic hair. They only grow eyelashes, eyebrows, nose and head hair. No shaving...



So this is it...

Therefore, we can conclude that Alexandria’s Genesis is a genetic mutation that offers exceptional beauty and health to its recipients.
Damn... No anal hair! That's what I call a true evolution xD
1415  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: February 03, 2016, 03:17:29 PM
Until science discovers and proves that nothing is magical. Just because it wasn't explained until now it doesn't mean it's magic. It just means that at the moment we don't understand it.
Imagine showing our world to a person that lived 100 years ago. He'd be dizzy in a moment and maybe couldn't understand or adapt his whole entire life.
Just as a exercise for your mind: think about yourself being born in 1901, and slowly get closer to our times: how many wonderful are really incredible discoveries have been made? It's astonishing!
Thank you science - you rule!

Never said the contrary. But science can't explain the creation of the world.
Why? Well just simply because in science 0+0 is always 0. If we manage one day to explain the creation of the world "scientifically" it will be by a new way to consider the world which will be as different from current science as from religion.

And again science and religion are not opposed! I see no reason to give up one or another. I'm an engineer and I still have the faith! I know by heart the Maxwell's equations but that also makes me even more aware of what science has still not explained and might never explain!  Cheesy

Science is sometimes very disruptive. You claim you're an engineer then you probably know that the quantum revolution created a new part of science that couldn't have been even imagined before. If we discover dark matter for example maybe it'll lead us to something totally incredible that might even explain the universe!

And that's a complex explanation. I only tried to stay simple with people from let's  say a century ago imagining a plane.
Faith is good, and people can believe whatever they want, just don't try co convince people that have evidence, to believe things of which you only have a book written by a bunch o guys to stand your words on.

I never tried to do so  Smiley

Even, I tried to explain why I think faith is good but why atheists shouldn't be condemned for not having faith, so you can't say i'm trying to convince you ^^
1416  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: February 03, 2016, 02:58:36 PM
Until science discovers and proves that nothing is magical. Just because it wasn't explained until now it doesn't mean it's magic. It just means that at the moment we don't understand it.
Imagine showing our world to a person that lived 100 years ago. He'd be dizzy in a moment and maybe couldn't understand or adapt his whole entire life.
Just as a exercise for your mind: think about yourself being born in 1901, and slowly get closer to our times: how many wonderful are really incredible discoveries have been made? It's astonishing!
Thank you science - you rule!

Never said the contrary. But science can't explain the creation of the world.
Why? Well just simply because in science 0+0 is always 0. If we manage one day to explain the creation of the world "scientifically" it will be by a new way to consider the world which will be as different from current science as from religion.

And again science and religion are not opposed! I see no reason to give up one or another. I'm an engineer and I still have the faith! I know by heart the Maxwell's equations but that also makes me even more aware of what science has still not explained and might never explain!  Cheesy
1417  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and porn why? [NSFW] on: February 03, 2016, 02:55:48 PM

Cool link xD

But as it's said in the comment, it's just intimidation, they try to freak him out. Cause you don't have the right to track down Ips this way, and even if some companies do it, once at the court the judge will refuse it as an evidence.

well, yes and no. this was an extreme case and not the only one. also depends on the country you live in.

what they usually do is that they pressure your ISP and your ISP knows what to do with you. Cheesy

Yeah sure it depends a lot of the laws of your state/country!

But most of the time you're rather protected! They try to pressure them cause they know they would never have won in court.

All that can happen is to destroy your internet debit, which is not cool but you can survive this xD
Just make your SO make a new contract under her name... But for that you gotta explain her you've downloaded enough porn to be brought to the court xD
1418  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: February 03, 2016, 02:50:27 PM
An important thing to remember is that the Bible is a collection of books, written by different people in different times addressing different needs of that time period.
I, personally think that if you are and want to be a good person, then you choose the good parts and leave the ones that are not good, or not useful for our modern age aside.

Why can you believe some parts of bible but not all?
How can you possibly know what in bible is true and what not?

You can't. You could as well believe that god created us because he is sadist who enjoys to kill and torture us. And only way to escape from his evil is to deny his existence. Why not?

Again this is easy.
We know how the Bible was written. Parts of the Bible gives the world directly from the mouth of Jesus, how could the son of God who lived and died for us be wrong?

Any part of the Bible in contradiction with His son is wrong and shouldn't be considered as sacred  Smiley

"You could as well believe that god created us because he is sadist who enjoys to kill and torture us."
Maybe. Why not?

Exactly, it is as realistic to believe that so why don't you deny his existence to be saved from heaven, where you will be tortured by god forever.

"how could the son of God who lived and died for us be wrong?"

If I kill my self and say I do it to give you change to deny his existence and escape from his eternal torturing, then you will blindly believe me?
Or would you just think I am suicidal carzy person? Maybe if I write good book about it?

Oh! I see what you're trying to do. You're trying to explain I can't prove that the Bible is right and that Jesus is the son of god and all that no?

Well don't waste your time, of course I can't xD

Again it's only a question of faith, and that's why atheists have every right to be so. If you don't have faith then you might consider all of this is just crazy shit. But if you have had the chance to find the Lord, then you KNOW that it's right ^^

But i'm not judging you or trying to convince you. i wouldn't even try to prove God exists, that would be ridiculous. If there was such a proof, there would be no faith.

And that should be proof enough that religion is flawed and not true.
They only ask us to have faith. Because if they had proof faith would have been obsolete.

Well believing is all about faith. And I don't see how it can be bad to have faith ^^

I hope one day you will have faith to deny gods existence so you will be saved from his internal torture.
Right now he is deep in your head preparing you to become his slave, maybe one day you will have faith to be saved from him.
I wouldn't even try to prove that, it would be ridiculous, because you gotta have some faith man!

But... I feel no torture! I'm happy to have faith in the Lord, why would I wish to stop having faith? It doesn't hurt me or anyone, on the contrary it helps me to live a better life! Why would I want to get rid of my faith?

We live in the real world, not in a fantasy one. Science is real, and can be touched. No one's ever seen God, but I see science making this world better everyday. As it has been told here countless times (BadDecker please don't try to count), it's just common sense.

And again science and religion are not opposed, they complete each other. Religion is the answer to what science can't and will never be able to explain Smiley
1419  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and porn why? [NSFW] on: February 03, 2016, 02:44:43 PM

Cool link xD

But as it's said in the comment, it's just intimidation, they try to freak him out. Cause you don't have the right to track down Ips this way, and even if some companies do it, once at the court the judge will refuse it as an evidence.
1420  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and porn why? [NSFW] on: February 03, 2016, 02:42:27 PM
Well, seems I can't lock the thread so...

Anyway I got direct good answers so that's not that bad  Grin

low quality free porn is the answer to your final question.

as for your first question
its no longer like paying $10 for a DVD or a pre-recorded upload. as that too is low quality, alot of people get sick of the mundane storyline predictable standard and want something more interactive and unique
these days paid services are more interactive.. like requesting a live show 'host' to do it on her knee's and you tip her for honoring your request, not only more entertaining for some but also its like cheating on your spouse without actually touching another person or it showing on your credit card. so there is a thrill aspect to the more personal interaction. without getting real life physical

so i can see there is a need for it. but id personally prefer to concentrate on the legit businesses, things like retail goods.

but the great thing about bitcoin is. that anyone can do anything with bitcoin and do their own projects, so if people want to go down the porn route. they are free to do so. while the rest of the community concentrates on the more consumer/retail side

Oh ok I see what you mean. Never used such service it's a bit borderline I think. But yeah I understand that here you got to pay for it obviously...

you know that it is illegal to download copyright protected stuff and people get prosecuted over doing so? right?

You know that not anything free on the web is illegal right?
And also that everyone download illegally copyright protected stuff without getting prosecuted ever?

Copyright debate is about do you feel like the price you're asked is fair? And most of the time it isn't, that's why i download lots of movies and games. Doesn't mean I never buy ones, just that I don't always pay for them because I don't think they deserve to be paid.
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