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1001  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Who will win WW3? on: February 25, 2016, 09:37:21 AM

I think Hillary might continue to spread the plague of homosexuality and even legalize child molestation since it's what those sodomites are planning next.


First: You're a dumbass shit.
Second: what you're posting is COMPLETELY out of the topic.
1002  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Greece to receive €80m from EU to help house refugees on: February 25, 2016, 09:36:01 AM
More than 100,000 refugees and migrants have arrived in Europe so far this year, at triple the rate of arrivals over the first half of 2015.

The number of immigrants is relatively low, as the winter season is still not finished. From mid-March onward, we can expect an immigrant influx of approx. 300,000 (or more) per month, and the rates will remain stable till November or December. I am expecting a total immigrant influx of 2 million to 3 million for 2016.
already 110,000 during the first 6 weeks of 2016, even when winter make the trip difficult? This will result in 1.0 Million of a steady flow for this entire year and hardly anyone has the guts to do what's needed to stop the invading hordes.


Yeah oh my god no people actually fleeing from the shitty countries we created and coming for a better life how terrible they are!!! Roll Eyes
1003  Economy / Speculation / Re: What will happen if there's no price rise for the halfing? on: February 25, 2016, 09:33:58 AM
Bitcoin halving is already priced in.  Bitcoin total supply is 21 million everyone knows that so all future halvings are priced in.

Ethereum will grow market cap as bitcoin stagnates.  Hopefully the chinese miners go bust after halving which should do bitcoin a favour.

no the bitcoin halving is not priced in anymore, because the diff doubled basically, it was priced in when the diff was 70B now 140B+

so there is the need for another increase for the miners, to have the same profit as before

Ok would you care to detail a bit? I didn't understand you at all xD

What's the diff?
1004  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: February 25, 2016, 09:28:26 AM
Americans Trump idiots, would you care to explain how you believe Trump can be good to you if he isn't to his employees?

Trump hotels workers are currently asking for better work conditions. In Las Vegas they got the worst pay of the city and the hardest work. Why would Trump act any differently upon you all?
1005  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: February 25, 2016, 09:26:43 AM
Actually, that is man's interpretation of the data. People forget (intentionally) that there is no way to take into account natural C-14 activity in the past, because nobody was there measuring the C-14 data as it happened. In addition, because of the carbon dating that has been proven to be false, the best that carbon dating might be is a better interpretation of things that we know the near date of through other methods.

In other words, carbon dating is all guesswork regarding the dates that are being interpreted from the results evidence.

Cool

It's not guess work! It's statistics! And that's why we do the experiments few dozens of times and we take into account a margin error! But you'd want us to be wrong about millions of years wrong? nonsense!

Statistically guesswork, when you look at how far of it is most of the time.    Cool

Do you have examples of statistical analysis that you don't think is guesswork? Or is all statistical analysis guesswork to you?

I checked my pockets, under the bed, in the garage, the attic, and all of a sudden I realized, it is all over the Internet for anybody who wants to research it.

Cool

Is all statistical analysis guesswork to you?

Are you such a child that you constantly have to ask me for my beliefs, my knowledge, and my opinions? Can't you figure anything out on your own?

Smiley

We try to understand how flawed your reasonning is. And believe me it's hard to understand how dumb you can be.

You're actually saying that it's not because the same experiment made 1500 times give the same result that this result is correct?
1006  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison on: February 25, 2016, 09:23:51 AM
But also consider that vehicles with 600 cmc engines go faster than vehicles with 5000 cmc engines. Bigger doesn't actually mean better.

+1
Exactly right.  Homo sapiens were more social, formed larger groups that is what allowed them to displace (smash those large brains) the Neanderthals.  With smaller brains Sapiens were able to dominate stronger, smarter, more muscular Neanderthals.

Scientists estimate Neanderthals formed small groups of 50-100 people vs Sapiens groups of 1000-5000 peoples.  Neanderthals did not stand a chance.

Modern people get together because they are herded together to be plundered and raped by those who govern. Neanderthals, because of their greater thinking capacity, were above that.

Cool

DID YOU JUST TALK ABOUT NEANDERTHALS?Huh

So it means you DO believe and consider evolution then BADecker! Or is Neanderthal also a creation of God? xD
1007  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison on: February 25, 2016, 09:22:24 AM
...
Consider. The average Neanderthal was smaller than we, but had almost half again the brain capacity... something like the Roswell aliens.

Cool

Neanderthal's brain capacity was around 1600 cm3 vs 1200-1400 cm3 brain capacity of homo sapiens.




I suppose that you are one of the big brains who has without proof determined that God doesn't exist, while many of the smaller brains have determined that we just don't know, and that there might be a possibility. Big brain in your case isn't working.

Smiley

I don't need proof because I'm not making any claims.

You are making an extraordinary, existential claim and provide no proof.


If you mean regarding the scientific fact that God exists, I am not making the claim. I am simply pointing out to you how science makes that claim, even though few scientists acknowledge it.

Smiley

And even though you still haven't proved why carbon datation is wrong...
1008  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: February 25, 2016, 09:21:16 AM
Ice sheets more sensitive to climate change than thought

A team of scientists from New Zealand, the United States, Italy, and Germany has determined that Antarctica’s large land-based ice sheets may be more vulnerable to increasing global temperatures than previously thought.

The research, led by Richard Levy of GNS Science, Edward Gasson of the University of Massachusetts, David Harwood of the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, and Fabio Florindo of the Istituto Nazionale di Geofisica e Vulcanologia, confirms that Antarctica’s marine-based ice sheets (those connected to the ocean) are vulnerable to climatic warming.

It also shows that land-based ice will melt if these warm temperatures are maintained into the future. This would have significant consequences for future sea level rise.

“This research gives us a look into Earth’s potential future if greenhouse gas levels continue to rise and temperatures continue to climb,” says Dr Levy.

“Basically, large parts of Antarctica, particularly around the coast, will become ice-free. Melting of Antarctica’s massive land-based ice sheets will likely take thousands of years, but observations certainly suggest ice sheet melt is well underway.”

“I would like to think that we can slow down this glacial retreat or even stop it. I certainly find it hard to imagine Antarctica without its majestic ice sheets.”

How the research was conducted Scientists examined a one-kilometre-long drill core that contained layers of rock and sediment deposited during an interval in Earth’s past when atmospheric carbon dioxide (CO2) concentrations reached 500 parts per million, levels similar to those projected for the next several decades.

This amount of atmospheric carbon dioxide last occurred over 15 million years ago during an episode of global warmth known as the Miocene Climatic Optimum, a period when global average temperatures were at times up to 3 to 4 °C
higher than today.

What the researchers found "We found plenty of evidence for relatively warm conditions in Antarctica. Shellfish that today are unable to live south of our sub-Antarctic Islands flourished along the shorelines at the foot of the Transantarctic Mountains.

“Trees, shrubs, and grasses that are similar to those that grow in New Zealand’s alpine tundra regions were able to thrive in Antarctica’s Dry Valley’s, an area that is presently devoid of higher plant life. We also found evidence that the glaciers retreated far from the coast.”

Importantly, these intervals of past warmth occurred when atmospheric CO2 concentrations were similar to levels projected to occur within the next several decades in all but the most aggressive greenhouse gas mitigation scenario.

“We were able to link the environmental data from Antarctica to information gathered from other locations around the world. Our analysis showed that the episodes of peak warmth and ice sheet melt occurred when CO2 was at about 500ppm, only slightly higher than today.”

The researchers also found that Antarctica’s ice sheets grew larger when climate cooled and CO2 dropped to pre-industrial levels.

“Clearly the ice sheets are highly sensitive to relatively small changes in CO2 and temperature,” says Dr Levy.

At the same time, Dr Levy’s colleagues at the University of Massachusetts used computer models to simulate Antarctic ice sheet response to climate change. Led by Dr Edward Gasson, the research examined how the ice sheet changed in response to different levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide and incoming energy from the sun.

When CO2 concentrations were held at 500 parts per million, regions of the ice sheet that sit in the ocean disappeared.

This result was similar to previous modelling studies. However, Dr Gasson’s new simulations showed that large portions of land-based ice also retreated a great distance inland contributing tens of meters to sea level rise during episodes of peak warmth in the Miocene.

“Fifteen million years ago West Antarctica had a lot more area sitting above sea level, so it held much more land-based ice than it does today. Therefore we would not expect the same amount of sea level rise from land-based
ice melt under similar temperature increase in the future. But the outcome certainly suggests that land-based ice in Antarctica is more susceptible to melt than we previously thought,” says Dr Levy.

Details of their studies will be published this week in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
1009  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: February 25, 2016, 09:18:04 AM
Snow and cold in Canada shatters records back to the 1800s.

Record one-day-snow total of 51.3 cm in Ottawa, Canada as well as hundreds – hundreds! – of cold records and snow records shattered in North America.Lake Erie 60% frozen in a single weekend,

https://youtu.be/WCDvRB3WxBs

Yep, climate change on the move.
1010  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: February 25, 2016, 09:17:38 AM
An international team of scientists dug into two dozen locations across the globe, including a salt marsh and coastal wetland in Newfoundland, to chart gently rising and falling seas over centuries and millennia. Until the 1880s and the world's industrialization, the fastest seas rose was about three to four centimetres (1 to 1.5 inches) a century, plus or minus a bit. During that time global sea level really didn't get much higher or lower than eight centimetres (three inches)  above or below the 2,000-year average.

But in the 20th century the world's seas rose 14 centimetres (5.5 inches). Since 1993 the rate has soared to 30 centimetres (a foot) per century. And two different studies published Monday in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, said by 2100 that the world's oceans will rise between 28 to 131 centimetres (11 to 52 inches), depending on how much heat-trapping gas Earth's industries and vehicles expel.

"There's no question that the 20th century is the fastest," said Rutgers earth and planetary sciences professor Bob Kopp, lead author of the study that looked back at sea levels over the past 3,000 years. "It's because of the temperature increase in the 20th century which has been driven by fossil fuel use."

To figure out past sea levels and rates of rise and fall, scientists engaged in a "geological detective story," said study co-author Ben Horton, a Rutgers marine scientist. They went around the world looking at salt marshes and other coastal locations and used different clues to figure out what the sea level was at different times. They used single cell organisms that are sensitive to salinity, mangroves, coral, sediments and other clues in cores, Horton said. On top of that they checked their figures by easy markers such as the rise of lead with the start of the industrial age and isotopes only seen in the atomic age.

When Kopp and colleagues charted the sea level rise over the centuries — they went back 3,000 years, but aren't confident in the most distant 200 years — they saw Earth's sea level was on a downward trend until the industrial age.

Mostly man-made

Sea level rise in the 20th century is mostly man-made, the study authors said. A separate, not-yet-published study by Kopp and others found since 1950, about two-thirds of the U.S. nuisance coastal floods in 27 locales have the fingerprints of man-made warming.

And if seas continue to rise, as projected, another 45 centimetres (18 inches) of sea level rise is going to cause lots of problems and expense, especially with surge during storms, said study co-author Stefan Rahmstorf of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research in Germany.

"There is such a tight relationship between sea level and temperature," Horton said. "I wish there wasn't, then we wouldn't be as worried."

The link to temperature is basic science, the study's authors said. Warm water expands. Cold water contracts. The scientists pointed to specific past eras when temperatures and sea rose and fell together.

The Kopp study and a separate one published by another team projected future sea level rise based on various techniques. They came to the same general estimates, despite using different methods, said Anders Levermann, a co-author of the second paper and a researcher at the Potsdam Institute.

If greenhouse gas pollution continues at the current pace, both studies project increases of about 57 to 131 centimetres (22 to 52 inches). If countries fulfil the treaty agreed upon last year in Paris and limit further warming to another 1 C (2 degrees Fahrenheit), sea level rise would be in the 28 to 56 centimetres (11 to 22 inch range).

Jonathan Overpeck at the University of Arizona, who wasn't part of the studies, praised them, saying they show a clear cause and effect between warming and sea level rise.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/sea-level-rise-1.2951884
1011  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2016, 09:15:22 AM
blocks are completely full
every single one
my 1cent fee tx has yet to be mined

CB's maths are wrong.


I had to wait the whole night for my tx to go through. First time I need to wait so long :-/
1012  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Greece to receive €80m from EU to help house refugees on: February 24, 2016, 03:17:30 PM
The European Union just gave € 3,000 million to Turkey, for the same purpose. And the Turks are sending these funds directly to the ISIS 
Tell Turkey to use all the money they are saving from buying ISIS oil (they lied about) and use THAT savings to pay their bills. All of Europe, build fences all around. Much cheaper!!


Are you crazy? you think turkey will fund Isis with money Europe gave them?

U know that there have been multiple Isis attacks in turkey already right?

I've been to Turkey and there live a lot of nice people, they are the most western muslim country.

And we are not going to build fences around Europe, you sound like Trump..

And you do realize that the current president of Turkey is a Muslim extremist, manipulating the media and transforming the democracy into a dictatorhip?
1013  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Homosexuality is caused by being molested on: February 24, 2016, 03:16:16 PM
Science with an agenda is not actual science, it's called politics  Smiley Just to let you know  Wink

If we accept research done by the LGBT lobbying groups, then we should also accept the same done by anti-LGBT groups such as various Christian organizations and conservative groups. This is like using the "research" done by Joseph Goebbels in the 1930s to claim that the Jews are an inferior race. LGBT lobbying groups are the new Nazis.

Conservative groups yes, but Christian organizations, well, no.

Bronze age nonsense is where you have to draw the line.


Ahah

Well I say you should accept all and study them.
A good study isn't a study made by an independant organization (there is no such thing) but a study that can be easily criticized, giving precisely the used methodology and the percentage of error.
1014  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Homosexuality is caused by being molested on: February 24, 2016, 03:15:03 PM
Your statement isn't completely stupid but you're wrong, a study can't be judged only by who paid for it and who made it!

Sample surveys and opinion polls can be manipulated in several ways.

For example, you can ask the same question in two different tones.

1. "Do you want to punish 16-year olds with jail time similar to the case with adult offenders, if they commit serious offenses? Or should they be sent to special juvenile institutions instead?"

and

2. "Do you think that rapists deserve jail-time, even if they are slightly under the age of 18?"

I am quite sure that the percentage of people agreeing with #2 will be more than #1.

Of course but you can't just take that into account, else you never take any study into account!

Any study has to be made by people, those people have to be paid. Hence there is no truly independant study.
1015  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are you with or against "the U.K. quits the European Union" ? on: February 24, 2016, 03:13:30 PM
And without EU we would probably already have a WWIII, but who cares? Roll Eyes

Why we would have a WW3? Half of the european countries would go bankrupt, maybe in eastern europe some leaders would try to resolve social problems by warming up some old grievances, in western and southern europe some minorities would go for independence, but all of these issues would be only a bunch of limited local conflict. Russia and Germany would be busy with picking up the pieces and the US-UK duo would be also occupied with dealing with the fallout and securing north africa and the oil around. I think nobody would have the money and time to start a big war.

I don't understand why France tolerate all this shit...

We should rule over the whole EU. Making it a federal state. Who could stop us?

It would indeed be a solution.

Napoleon would probably cry given how France bow in front of parasites like Ireland, Luxembourg or Switzerland given our current power.
But no, as our politicians are all corupted and weak they prefer continue to steal the French to give money to some big companies and small countries...
1016  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are you with or against "the U.K. quits the European Union" ? on: February 24, 2016, 10:48:59 AM
Except for Germany having a debt of 2.2 trillion €

That is not the full picture. Germany is very close to becoming a net debt-holder nation. They own federal debt from nations such as Greece and Portugal. I am not quite sure about the amount, but it might be close to € 2 trillion.

Yeah cause Germany is so wonderfull, so great! Take example you all filthy countries who try to limit the power of private sector!!!
1017  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are you with or against "the U.K. quits the European Union" ? on: February 24, 2016, 10:48:02 AM
each country in europe should leave this evil organisation for the sake of its sanity... europeen union sucks our souls.. and bloods brutally..

Although I hate the European Union, it is not possible to ignore the positive effect it had on the former Warsaw pact nations such as Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, and Slovakia. The European Union membership resulted in improving the living standards in each of these nations. The average wages increased by manifold, there was improvement in the health sector, and the local farmers became eligible for comprehensive subsidies. Without the European Union, these countries will go back to the stone age.

And without EU we would probably already have a WWIII, but who cares? Roll Eyes
1018  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Belgium: Afghan migrant, 16, 'rapes worker at asylum centre' on: February 24, 2016, 10:46:08 AM
"Refugee teen charged with rape of social worker after finishing course on how to behave with women"
What a symbolic headline.

Some idiots still think that it is possible to integrate these third world immigrants from the middle east in to Western societies, by "educating" them. When will they realize that their behavior is not going to change, no matter how much the liberals try to educate them about the western culture? Look at France. Even the second and third generation of these immigrants are behaving the same way as their forefathers did.

Stay under your bed not seeing how the world is changing and continue to think you can preserve your old way of life Wink
1019  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 10 Most Ridiculous Things Bought By Billionaires on: February 24, 2016, 10:41:30 AM
Well they made themselves richer, so i guess we got no right to tell them what to do or buy. Let's just criticize them privately.

Depends on how you see the world. IMHO they could all get killed that wouldn't be a bad thing, we would do better thing with their money.
1020  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Greece to receive €80m from EU to help house refugees on: February 24, 2016, 09:55:04 AM
Thats a good initiation by Europe to help Greece by various forms. The refugees initially will just try to be under control, when their strength increases automatically they try to take control over country men which recently happened in Germany. So finally Greece is gonna suffer for the good it did.

Good initiative? Greece is being given some €80 million, while Turkey gets €3,000 million. What sort of justice is this? And Greece is currently facing a financial meltdown, while Turkey is making billions of USD every year by selling crude oil from the ISIS. For me it seems like the European Union is completely biased against the Greeks.

Because greece already got 250 billion € since 2010 not counting the haircut.
That makes 50 billion a year.



Yeah but it was the EU who asked to open Greek borders :-/
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