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14341  Other / Politics & Society / Re: John McAfee wants to sell you a $100 gadget that blocks the NSA on: October 31, 2013, 01:26:38 AM
Side note, Tomato could be extended to encompass a lot of the functions that McAffee talks about, but that doesn't mean it couldn't exist alongside his box.  He'd probably like that...

The guy truly is nuts, but he knows what he's talking about.  I think he'd probably go for some kind of open protocol on this that could be built into pretty much anything.  He rolls that way.

I think it could be just a vpn on hardware or something like that. Will see it when he release it.

it's two things apparently, firstly it'll encrypt your comms but also if enough people have one it'll work like a mobile mesh wifi network

spontaneous encryption in a local mesh cannot be broken.  i looked into this matter a while back based on a bet with a friend....
14342  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Fort Hood soldiers say Army warned them off tea party, Christian groups on: October 31, 2013, 01:25:11 AM
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I believe the killer was not even allowed to defend his jihad in court. So for him he was a soldier using the tools he had and was ready to die at fort Hood. That was clear to me and to the killer and anyone with two brain cells.
And yet the government defined what happened in Fort Hood as ''workplace violence'', not terrorism. Tea Party is the real danger! Danger! Danger Will Robinson!
http://www.wfaa.com/news/texas-news/Lawmakers-pledge-to-bring-benefits-to-Fort-Hood-victims-222093091.html
That's a disgrace.  I did not know that the survivors and their families were suffering due to a lack of benefits due to the definition of "workplace violence".   

I guess also the surviving relatives of the forgotten heros who died at Bengazi have been forgotten.
14343  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Fort Hood soldiers say Army warned them off tea party, Christian groups on: October 30, 2013, 11:02:37 PM
Here are some facts.

1.  Since 1983, eight people have been killed in the USA from abortion clinic violence.  How many from muslim violence?

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/AmericanAttacks.htm

3101 in 70 separate attacks in the USA.

One of these happened to be at Fort Hood, resulting in 13 deaths.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Hood_shooting

But of course those bible thumping Christians are the real threat. Roll Eyes
Yeah that's what's so idiotic about this.  Let's connect the dots...

A) Jerk off Allah believer massacres people at Fort Hood

B) Obama pinhead comes to Ft. Hood to lecture soldiers about the dangers of Tea Party and Christians...

@#$IOJ)(U#@)$*Huh?
14344  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Fort Hood soldiers say Army warned them off tea party, Christian groups on: October 30, 2013, 10:59:33 PM
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I'm well aware of that and much more, but then this guy came along: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Ghazali
You get the award for presenting...

Best Religious Nutcase of the Day!
14345  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Jon Stewart Says Libertarian Conservatism Winning on: October 30, 2013, 09:02:02 PM
I do believe a fine cross of liberal conservatism is needed. A good mix of left and right wing approach is what the United States needs.

I'm down with that, so long as it's a libertarian left and right.

Agreed.  Unfortunately I'm afraid we are looking at total craziness, something like...

1.  soros/other evil entities funding jerk off Santorum to run as a false flag op
2.  another false flag op running Rubio
3.  back room republicans backing Chris Christie, in a push to keep things unchanged in DC
4.  meanwhile the little guy's only hope which would be yea, Cruz or Rand

Remember the way that Romney kept in there while the other guys were bailing?  It was his solid finances.
14346  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Does Anyone Else Believe In Jesus Christ ? on: October 30, 2013, 08:48:36 PM
I only believe in things that have good evidence and/or logcally consistent arguments to back them up, i have not yet encountered such evidence and/or logically consistent arguments for any religion. I am however uncompromisingly open minded so if you felt so inclined as to share with me the evidence and/or arguments that convinced you, and if the evidence evidence is good and/or the arguments are sound than i'll certainly climb on board.

Well, then you may want to read The Case for Christ.  It was written by a journalist attempting to disprove that Jesus was who he said he was using the types of methods he used to find truth from eyewitnesses and reports about news stories:

http://www.amazon.com/Case-Christ-Journalists-Investigation-ebook/dp/B000FC2KEM/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1383148637&sr=8-5&keywords=evidence+demands+a+verdict



i dont need to read a book, just tell me what the evidence is and link the original sources.

I don't know that either of the following two books claims or subjects  are adequately covered on the web.

So just to confuse things further...

Here's a classic book that shows how Jesus & co-conspirators could have pulled off the biggest scam in history - no dying on the cross, etc...

http://www.amazon.com/The-Passover-Plot-Special-Anniversary/dp/1932857095/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1383165821&sr=8-1&keywords=passover+plot

And here's my recommendation, this is an unbiased scholarly look at evidence that Jesus may or may not have existed.

Arthur:  Ehrman

http://www.amazon.com/The-Historical-Jesus-2-Parts/dp/B0018QJ32G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1383165976&sr=8-1&keywords=historical+jesus+ehrman

14347  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Fort Hood soldiers say Army warned them off tea party, Christian groups on: October 30, 2013, 08:12:20 PM
...... and was also noted for its predominantly Muslim society that was tolerant toward its Christian and Jewish minorities.....
Oh ya, sure, tolerant toward the 'people of the book'....

AS LONG AS THEY PAY THEIR SPECIAL TAXES LIKE THE KORAN SAYS!!!

Meaning, peace through subjugation.

That not my type of peace, thank you kindly.  Neither is it a very nice peace for people who are not 'people of the book', they lose their heads...

By the way, back on the OP topic:  I am certain that it is possible to develop a policy statement to warn soldiers about groups they should not associate with which is fair, unbiased and based on historical facts instead of modern prejudice.

For example, they could be told flat out not to associate with any Muslim sects adhering to the teachings of Sayyid Qut'b would be unacceptable.  They didn't do that with Major Hasad.  My guess is they didn't know the implications.
14348  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Does Anyone Else Believe In Jesus Christ ? on: October 30, 2013, 07:48:47 PM
It feels so good to know it is OK to feel safe making fun of Christians, no mater what. Wink

How safe will you feel when you are standing in front of Jesus on the throne trying to explain why it was OK to mock his followers for decades?

Hope you're right that Christianity is wrong...

As safe as you will feel when in front of the great Flying Spaghetti Monster trying to explain why you believed in a fake religion and not in His Holy Noodles.

Hope you're right that Pastafarianism is wrong...

Let's see.  One is backed by the best-selling book every year without fail since the printing press was invented with over a billion followers worldwide and whose life was so transformative that we measure dates by it and the other is backed by an atheist trying to make a point to a school board 7 years ago.  I think I'll take my chances with Christ.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2012/books

Better convert to sadomasochism then.

Plus Ad Populum Fallacy.

Two good points.  But he had a good question:

Does making fun of the beliefs of others make you better?  Or worse?

   
14349  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Does Anyone Else Believe In Jesus Christ ? on: October 30, 2013, 07:45:16 PM
I grew up learning about Jesus from my family and they were always obsessed with the second coming. Once you've believed that for so long, picturing Jesus shooting from the sky on a fiery chariot, you kind've slack on life, at least some of my family did. Couldn't embrace the rapture element...
A fiery CHARIOT?

Aw come on.

At least let's give him a 1968 Camaro, yellow with black stripes, twin  turbocharged.

It could be a 1968 Camaro with flames on the side...
NO!!!  That's totally unacceptable.  I mean like, forget it all then.  Painted flames on the side is stoopid. 

I want flames like this thing is some Apollo moon rocket.  Then we be talking.
14350  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Fort Hood soldiers say Army warned them off tea party, Christian groups on: October 30, 2013, 03:33:14 PM
So... The most intolerable religion right now on this planet in 2013 regarding gay rights and women's rights is the Christian religion? Got it.

Can you believe they let women drive cars and buy bitcoins in the USA and Russia? Incredible!
Yeah, I'm waiting for Rassah's response to all this.

Somehow I do believe he can put it into a rational and reasonable perspective.

....pretty good argument could be made for the exact opposite, that the MOST TOLERANT religions are the Christian ... or to put it more accurately, the Judeochristian cultures...
14351  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Does Anyone Else Believe In Jesus Christ ? on: October 30, 2013, 03:26:22 PM
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To be a true Christians requires much more than just joining a "club" or attending religious services.  It is about a change of heart, so that we know Jesus in an intimate way and want to serve Him wholeheartedly in everything we do and we become changed from the inside out.  The way you can really test to see if someone is a Christian or not is by the "fruit" in their life.  Are they loving, kind, gentle, patient, slow to anger?  These sorts of things are the "fruit" that the Bible talks about and that you will know a "tree by it's fruit."
Typically an athiest will look at something like a creed of christianity, and note the various impossible events therein which one is asked to believe in - that will be how he frames the argument as to what a christian is, rather than looking at the introspective tests as you've mentioned.

How do you respond to that?
14352  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Sebelius To Blame Contractors For Obamacare Website Woes, Not HHS…. on: October 30, 2013, 03:03:00 PM
http://www.nationaljournal.com/health-care/sebelius-blame-contractors-for-obamacare-site-20131029

week after the contractors who built HealthCare.gov blamed the Obama administration for the site’s failures, the administration is shifting the blame right back.....


I'm hearing the design protocol was appropriate for a couple dozen users, not millions.

It doesn't matter how the blame game goes, this is typical government program mis management.



Its not a government issue: http://www.it-cortex.com/Stat_Failure_Rate.htm

Half of all big projects fail.  Its the nature of these projects.  A delay on a month or 2 is nothing.
No, half of all big projects do not fail.  Neither does the linked to marketing brochure have any relevent facts.

Ah of course.  I forgot that you are in a fact free environment.  In the world which really exists, big projects fail and thats just the way it goes.  I'd normally say "google it" but ofc google is packed with facts as well so best not do that.

Make something up?  That seems to work for you.
No.  I just happen to have been involved in big projects for decades.

Yes, including code driven stuff.

Look, it's not helpful to try to play the blame game, mis direct or reframe the questions or issues.  Those approaches don't yield solutions - they just provide political cover.

We are seeking the software implementation of Obamacare as what it is.

A giant fuck up.

But ignore that and keep saying ridiculous things.  Let me quote your last really good one referencing the Obamacare website, Healthcare.gov:

"Its not a government issue:"
14353  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Does Anyone Else Believe In Jesus Christ ? on: October 30, 2013, 03:00:32 PM
I think we might be a little outnumbered her OP.  Of course the Bible says "narrow is the road and few will find it" so I guess it is to be expected.  Kind of like the rest of the world does not really get "bitcoin" many people don't "get Jesus" but they have not really searched.  Or they think that they have it all figured out.

Wrong!!!

There are like 2 billion Christians in the planet, not a "narrow" road, when I was born there was something like 95% Christian population in my country, now there are 80%, how the fuck is that narrow?
...

What I think she's implying, which you would likely agree with ... is that not many Christians have it figured out....
14354  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Sebelius To Blame Contractors For Obamacare Website Woes, Not HHS…. on: October 30, 2013, 12:19:56 PM
http://www.nationaljournal.com/health-care/sebelius-blame-contractors-for-obamacare-site-20131029

week after the contractors who built HealthCare.gov blamed the Obama administration for the site’s failures, the administration is shifting the blame right back.....


I'm hearing the design protocol was appropriate for a couple dozen users, not millions.

It doesn't matter how the blame game goes, this is typical government program mis management.



Its not a government issue: http://www.it-cortex.com/Stat_Failure_Rate.htm

Half of all big projects fail.  Its the nature of these projects.  A delay on a month or 2 is nothing.
No, half of all big projects do not fail.  Neither does the linked to marketing brochure have any relevent facts.
14355  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Sebelius To Blame Contractors For Obamacare Website Woes, Not HHS…. on: October 30, 2013, 11:39:09 AM
http://www.nationaljournal.com/health-care/sebelius-blame-contractors-for-obamacare-site-20131029

week after the contractors who built HealthCare.gov blamed the Obama administration for the site’s failures, the administration is shifting the blame right back.....


I'm hearing the design protocol was appropriate for a couple dozen users, not millions.

It doesn't matter how the blame game goes, this is typical government program mis management.

14356  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Fort Hood soldiers say Army warned them off tea party, Christian groups on: October 30, 2013, 12:14:48 AM
Here are some facts.

1.  Since 1983, eight people have been killed in the USA from abortion clinic violence.  How many from muslim violence?

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/AmericanAttacks.htm

3101 in 70 separate attacks in the USA.

Don't forget, we are actually actively trying to kill them there. And that still doesn't prove one way or another whether the christian nucases would go on a killing spree if they weren't concerned about the law coming down on them. They are quite vocal and supporting about stoping abortion by any means, after all.


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2.  Kills gays and transsexuals?  Muslims do this routinely today.  Do Christians?  You might be thinking of the Matthew Shepard story.  The one you were lied to about.  Yeah, that one.

http://nypost.com/2013/10/28/uncomfortable-truth-behind-matthew-shepards-death/

Yeah, no, not that one. More like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_violence_against_LGBT_people_in_the_United_States#Violent_acts_against_LGBT_persons and even that is still a short lits. Used to be I would read about some gay person being beaten or killed almost every months just maybe 5 to 10 years ago. Typically people doing this are christian religious extremists.

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3.  Is very racist and jingoistic?  I think this may be not an issue/or is equally an issue with either Muslim or Christian.  (not exactly NICE, but not in the same category as murder and violence).

That's true. They wait until we cross into their borders before shooting at us, unlike US military going into other countries, or the mexican border patrol rednecks taking potshots are illegals.

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4.  Perfectly happy with stony sinners or burning them at the stake.

No.  These practices occurred in isolated cultures of Christianity, a long time ago.  You can't support an assertion that Christians would be happy with those things today with facts.

Are you sure about that? I'm not saying that all, or even the majority, of Christians are like that, but some of the religious zealotry out there (that has been caught on tape even) is downright scary  Embarrassed

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So where you want to go with this equalizing stuff?

I will concede, Christian extremists are not AS crazy, insane, violent, and righteously-murderous as Muslim extremists. They are only somewhat crazy, insane, violent,  and murderous. (glad the KKK is almost gone, but we still have nutcases like the guy in Norway 2 years ago)
I get where you are coming from, and have to think you are making more sense now that we are using the phras "Christian extremists".  This doesn't envelope the broad mess of Christian fundamentalists, and it does not include the Tea party.

Christian extremists do exist, but it's likely you or I have never ran into one.  The simple reason is that the core beliefs of Christians are not leaning much in the direction of violence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

Far more dangerous are the left wing extremists and radicals in the US.  I could easily reverse the trail of your logic, substituting left wing and Obama followers, and attribute to them characteristics of left wing extremists....



14357  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Now from Salon.com on: October 30, 2013, 12:00:13 AM
Just another link for people allergic to anything foxnews related:

http://www.salon.com/2013/10/28/riots_always_begin_typically_the_same_way_food_stamp_shutdown_looms_friday/


.....If I were a not so good president I would cut off the food stamps just before the election, making enough people miserable, have my MSM minions blast their suffering on TV non stop 24/7 and blame the Republicans for it. .....

FoxNews would be reporting Al Sharpton was ordered start riots.  That'd interfere with the 'righteous and indignant protests' on the MSM.









Everyone knows foxnews is racist. Tawana Brawley told me.

How could she have?  Us racists took care of her real good.  Wait...what's that?  We didn't?  That good shit was all made up by that cunt Sharpton?  Damnatiaon!
14358  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Does Anyone Else Believe In Jesus Christ ? on: October 29, 2013, 10:01:28 PM
No, I am not really all that familiar with any groups who believe there will be a 'one world currency'.
So you're a christian has no idea what the bible says.  Awesome.

As far as 'groups' that believe there will be a one world currency, pretty much every church on planet earth, for starters.
No they do not.  You refer to a verse in Revelations having to do with the number 666.  There are many interpretations to that and many regard Revelations as totally stupid.

It feels so good to know it is OK to feel safe making fun of Christians, no mater what. Wink
I agree 100%.  I also believe a lot of media personalities and a lot of individuals who make fun of Christians but don't even think of giving equal time and equal ridicule to muslims are spineless, gutless wimps and intellectually dishonest.

....is there anything wrong with this statement? -> "i believe that i am". if not than, using the socratic method, i think it could be used to break your claim "Both the terms belief, and faith imply that evidence is not used in the decision process."

I think Christians might look at things such as the wonders of life as 'evidence', but with exceptions of some of them who are idiots and misunderstand their own faith, they are basically, 'the faithful'.

Faith, and belief, are central issues.  "evidence", is secondary or tertiary...

Yes, there is a lot wrong with the statement "I believe that I am."  Let me correct it to "I am."
Or how about I am what I believe?
No, you are not what you believe.  But beliefs can take a person a long way toward becoming better.

Or worse.

14359  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Fort Hood soldiers say Army warned them off tea party, Christian groups on: October 29, 2013, 06:12:09 PM
And we all know the differences between the two.  They are not remotely similar.  One turns the other cheek, the other massacres innocent people.

The first one also bombs abortion clinics, kills gays and transsexuals, is typically very racist and jingoistic, and it is extremely likely that, if the law wasn't there to stop them from doing it, would be perfectly happy wth stoning sinners or burning them at the stake as well. Both are quite subject to irrational mob mentality.

Yes, you ARE trying to equalize the two.  But that doesn't work too well.  First let me object to your broad brush smear on "Christian groups and Tea party groups".  There is zero evidence that Tea party groups have been involved in any violence.  Zero.  Same for all Christian groups with tiny little exceptions.  IIRC all the Abortion clinic bombings were done by crazy individuals.  But yes, there is a tiny fringe of Christian extremism.

Here are some facts.

1.  Since 1983, eight people have been killed in the USA from abortion clinic violence.  How many from muslim violence?

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/AmericanAttacks.htm

3101 in 70 separate attacks in the USA.

2.  Kills gays and transsexuals?  Muslims do this routinely today.  Do Christians?  You might be thinking of the Matthew Shepard story.  The one you were lied to about.  Yeah, that one.

http://nypost.com/2013/10/28/uncomfortable-truth-behind-matthew-shepards-death/

3.  Is very racist and jingoistic?  I think this may be not an issue/or is equally an issue with either Muslim or Christian.  (not exactly NICE, but not in the same category as murder and violence).

4.  Perfectly happy with stony sinners or burning them at the stake.

No.  These practices occurred in isolated cultures of Christianity, a long time ago.  You can't support an assertion that Christians would be happy with those things today with facts.  Stoning sinners is done TODAY BY MUSLIMS.  Like, with girls that got raped - then they let the rapists go.  That's when they aren't busy chopping off hands and stuff.

So where you want to go with this equalizing stuff?
14360  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Now from Salon.com on: October 29, 2013, 05:57:46 PM
Just another link for people allergic to anything foxnews related:

http://www.salon.com/2013/10/28/riots_always_begin_typically_the_same_way_food_stamp_shutdown_looms_friday/


.....If I were a not so good president I would cut off the food stamps just before the election, making enough people miserable, have my MSM minions blast their suffering on TV non stop 24/7 and blame the Republicans for it. .....

FoxNews would be reporting Al Sharpton was ordered start riots.  That'd interfere with the 'righteous and indignant protests' on the MSM.






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