...[clip]... There are literally hundreds of videos of ships disappearing bottom first, people knew this hundreds of years ago, are you stupid? The question is, are objects in the distance obscured by curvature or are there better explanations like perspective, narrow band mirages or looming that can be proven? By answering a question he didn't ask with a question, you're engaging in pipul. By stating that that objects are obscured on video but neglecting to detail how, you're sidestepping the question and engaging in pipul. By implying that people hundreds of years ago were ignorant but still knew what you claim is truth, you're creating a false standard to improperly weigh the question with the intent to justify discarding the question entirely, you're engaging in pipul. By engaging in personal attacks without justification, you're engaging in pipul. That's at-least five cases of pipul in a single sentence without actually tackling the question.
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The question about the Moon being evenly lit, why can't it be answered without engaging in pipul? The question about whether objects in the distance are obscured by curvature, why can't that be answered without engaging in pipul? For gods sake man BADecker is doing an Irish jig trying to explain perspective, I've never seen such mental gymnastics in my life before!
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They purposely conflate physical size and position with apparent size and position including viewer height to claim obstruction due to curvature, obstruction due to a narrow band mirage with obstruction due to curvature, clipping from atmospheric magnification with with obstruction due to curvature, atmospheric compression as curvature and, atmospheric refraction with lack of observed curvature. The science of illusion. Wow that picture... amazing and explains all. /sss he's running a scam, he's taking your money without giving you the opportunity to win the game. It's all about fuck you slave! You believe nothing but bullshit you absolute chump!
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Okay, so I'm reading The Book of Enoch linked a few posts up and it says there was powered flight.
"Nor shall they have it in their power to secure themselves, and to fly." -- Enoch 51:7
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I'm in agreement with The Council of Nicea, this book doesn't belong in the Bible and IMO is not the word of God. I believe it was written by some deluded astronomer who thought he could imitate the Bible. His description/analysis of the Moon is not only flawed based on my understanding of it but, it's contradictory to the Book of Genesis.
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Another illusion is with the Sun and Stars. In reality the Earth is motionless and the Sun and Stars orbit above us as separate objects with separate frequencies, 24 hours for the Sun and 23 hours, 56 minutes for the Stars.
The trick here is that the globe model has to combine the two frequencies into a single frequency, the single globe has to make both observed motions at the same time. So in the globe model it's making both a 360 degree rotation and a ~359 degree rotation at the same time.
It's a global marathon, one athlete running two separate races with different track lengths at the same time, running at the same speed in both races and, passing the finish lines at the same time.
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They purposely conflate physical size and position with apparent size and position including viewer height to claim obstruction due to curvature, obstruction due to a narrow band mirage with obstruction due to curvature, clipping from atmospheric magnification with with obstruction due to curvature, atmospheric compression as curvature and, atmospheric refraction with lack of observed curvature. The science of illusion.
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"And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter." -- Revelation 8:11, KJV"Interpretations Certain commentators have held that this "great star" represents one of several important figures in political or ecclesiastical history,[4] while other Bible dictionaries and commentaries view the term as a reference to a celestial being. A Dictionary of The Holy Bible states, "the star called Wormwood seems to denote a mighty prince, or power of the air, the instrument, in its fall."[5]" -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormwood_(Bible)"Rabbi Yitzchak Batzri, a Jerusalem-based Kabbalist, claimed the apocalyptic scenario was foretold in the Old Testament." -- https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/1028552/Yellowstone-volcano-eruption-Bible-prophecy-end-of-the-world"I can't make this stuff up folks!" -- Alex Jones
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Research Mt. St. Helens then ask yourself, ?
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Engineers don't calculate for Earth's curve ever because it doesn't exist. Go ask a railroad engineer about it, ask him why he never makes allowances for Earth's curvature? I'm not the one living in a fantasy world.
Why don't engineers generally need to calculate for the curvature of the earth? Because the curvature is on such a vast scale that it is unnecessary to take it into account. It appears not to exist. If the earth were a mere 100 miles in diameter, they would have to take it into account. Engineers calculate for flat and straight. They do not calculate for something like a horizon curving up. Make up your mind. Either the engineering calculation that works is wrong, or flat-earth curving up is wrong. The two sciences don't mix. Formulate a complete FE science that works, stop combing it with standard science, and go back to school. What, did the liqueur store run out of Everclear? The claim is 8" per mile squared and you say a railroad engineer can just ignore that?
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NASA is going to pump Yellowstone full of water. They may not have our best interests in mind, in-fact I know they don't. "Volcanic winter is a state where the lower atmosphere gets filled with ash and it effectively plunges the entire planet in shade, cooling down the Earth." "... By drilling into the supervolcano to a depth of about 10 km, water can be forced into it at high pressures ...", "... it would cost NASA about $3.46 billion ..." Source: IBT "I can't make this stuff up folks!" -- Alex Jones I think they're going to use directed energy weapons to trigger an eruption, I believe they used the same energy buildup steam explosion trick (same effect as a microwaved exploding cup of water) on Mt. St. Helens to trigger that eruption. They destroyed evidence of a Titans remains and falsified evidence of volcanic geological activity. The time for mass deception on Earth is clearly coming to an end and they know it; the countdown clock for doomsday may have started.
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^^^ Notice he's careful to never post any evidence that might be debunked, just hit & run insults. What a massive faggot.
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NASA is going to pump Yellowstone full of water. They may not have our best interests in mind, in-fact I know they don't. "Volcanic winter is a state where the lower atmosphere gets filled with ash and it effectively plunges the entire planet in shade, cooling down the Earth." "... By drilling into the supervolcano to a depth of about 10 km, water can be forced into it at high pressures ...", "... it would cost NASA about $3.46 billion ..." Source: IBT
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^^^ I'm not sure the exact process involved with the Moon is listed there but it's something to start with in regards to optical cooling effects. They seem to be cooling small samples to extreme temperatures but certainly these efects can be expanded to cool a larger area to less extreme temperatures.
It would be nice if I didn't have to theorize about the nature of the Moon but, what I can say as fact is the Moon's surface is evenly lit and this is not consistent with a solid sphere illuminated by the Sun.
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Nobatman. I have a question on the moon being a hologram. Hope you don't mind the challenging question.
Moon light is colder than moon shade. I'm sure you already know this. There are many experiments online and I have actually done this myself. Very fascinating.
If the moon is a hologram how could that possibly work?
The dome is a concave mirror and the celestial objects are projected off of the mirror. 3-D MirascopeI still don't get how the hologram/projection could cause the temperature difference with the moon shade being warmer and the moon light being colder. If it was a simple projection I would think temperature would be unaffected. Any theories on where the projection is coming from? Thanks for the 411. I enjoy this thread you have made and have no idea how you have maintained for 3 years. I suspect the cooling phenomenon if it can be confirmed is much like LASER cooling, as for where it's from I'd theorize somewhere in the north polar region.
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Nobatman. I have a question on the moon being a hologram. Hope you don't mind the challenging question.
Moon light is colder than moon shade. I'm sure you already know this. There are many experiments online and I have actually done this myself. Very fascinating.
If the moon is a hologram how could that possibly work?
The dome is a concave mirror and the celestial objects are projected off of the mirror. 3-D Mirascope
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live-stream their own death. Piano wire, gas oven, sawed-off shotgun, 3L of everclear, it doesn't matter!
You have put some thought into this. Should we be worried about your well-being? What's the defining characteristic of a "concern troll"?
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Engineers don't calculate for Earth's curve ever because it doesn't exist. Go ask a railroad engineer about it, ask him why he never makes allowances for Earth's curvature? I'm not the one living in a fantasy world.
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Watch a boat sail across the horizon from one side to the other, it doesn't go up and over a curve, it never vanishes from sight. Why is everybody forced to agree with the person watching the ship sail away who claims he witnessed the boat sail up over and behind a giant hump of water, the boat disappeared bottom up he claims. Both witnesses are watching the same boat at the same time yet their perspectives yield radically different observations. The person watching the boat sail away from him only needs a pair of binoculars to bring it back into view and confirm, that the guy watching the boat sail across can still see the boat and that it hasn't moved up or down.
Those who want to claim that I'm lying or don't understand science need to live-stream their own death. Piano wire, gas oven, sawed-off shotgun, 3L of everclear, it doesn't matter!
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^^^ You're a fucking goof, the ground rises up to block the view when your view is low. Seriously go drink yourself to death, there's no curve.
Don't you even see what you just said?... "the ground rises up." If the earth is flat, the ground doesn't rise up. If the ground DOES rise up on a flat earth, flat isn't flat, but rather it is curved upward. You are redefining the word "flat" to mean curved up. In addition, suppose you look a few degrees or more above the horizon. Does the ground rise up to there? Of course not. If it did, you could never direct your eyes above the horizon. You could never see the stars. If the ground always rose up, we wouldn't know that there were any stars, a sun, or a moon. If you don't define your language and your science with themselves, and then stop combining definitions of standard language and science with FE language and science, you are never going to seem to be anything other than goofy. You jokers should go off and live by yourselves. But you can't, can you? Because your definitions of things leave a lot of stuff out. And, because there are locks on your funny farm doors to keep you in, right? You're purposely conflating apparent size and position with physical size and position, just fuck off and die already.
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"Everybody appreciates your honesty until you're honest with them" -- George Carlton
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